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Title: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: perknh on July 24, 2018, 04:39:04 pm
5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now

By Jason Evangelho (https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/#506204fcd36f) for For Forbes (https://www.forbes.com/#65d10c2d2254)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2018/07/23/5-reasons-you-should-switch-from-windows-to-linux-right-now/#428aa4c1777b

Let's hear it for Jason Evangelho.  He's on a good path here! ;)
Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: scifidude79 on July 24, 2018, 06:09:07 pm
Those are some good reasons. Though, I still don't understand this "one or the other" thinking. One of Linux's greatest strengths is how it can easily be installed alongside and play well with Windows. You may need or want Windows installed for one reason or another, so you can always dual boot.
Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: perknh on July 24, 2018, 07:07:47 pm
 From what I can gather,  Jason Evangelho, like others I've either read or spoken with, got tired of his experiences with Windows 10.  In his case he found Linux/Ubuntu to be a refreshing change from Windows. I believe he was also building upon a point he made in a previous article (https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2018/07/19/ditching-windows-2-weeks-with-ubuntu-linux-on-the-dell-xps-13/#1d6de3f01836) that Linux has come a long way in the last several years.

I posted the article because he gave some solid reasons why some computer users might want to consider switching from Windows to GNU/Linux if they would like.  Of course you're right, scifidude79, that there are other reasons to use Windows at times.  Gaming support is one reason that immediately comes to mind when I think of reasons to run Windows.  I'm certain there are other reasons too -- even if I'm drawing a blank as to what they might be at the moment. :-\

Ah, Netflix is another reason a computer user might want to keep Windows around! ;)
Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: VinDSL on July 24, 2018, 07:14:00 pm
Bwahahahahaha!
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Have you ever sat and contemplated how much time Windows steals from you with its updates?

My winders machine, at work, decided to update itself half way through my shift - incremental updates to 1803 (I think) - plus an update to '10' Enterprise after that. Basically, tied up for the rest of the day.

So, when I got home, I decided to get it over with (updates are forced now) - 4 machines with 5 installs - 4 Stable & 1 Skip Ahead. The lappy went pretty fast. Now the missus' machine is plodding along.

After that, I'll do this machine. Then, my scanner/backup workstation.

Soooo... let's say... 10 hours, give or take. If one "sat and contemplated how much time Windows steals from you with its updates", it would drive them crazy.

Luckily I have lots of Peppermint machines to preserve my sanity while I'm patching '10'  ::)
Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: PCNetSpec on July 24, 2018, 07:20:43 pm
It's funny, I don't remember being so anoyed with Windows updates when I was a Windows user .. now they drive me nutz.

Bit like your first SSD .. it's hard to go back once your eyes have been opened :)
Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: VinDSL on July 24, 2018, 07:48:30 pm
[...] it's hard to go back once your eyes have been opened :)

I would NEVER go back, although I must say, '10' is much more palatable to me than winders 7 - gawd I hated that release.

Running them in parallel (multi-boot) is no problem... if you don't think about how much time you spend updating  winders.

Updating 'Skip Ahead' is particularity vexing, because every driver in your machine needs to be the latest ver, or the update will stop on the last reboot, giving you an nondescript error code. Took me months to figure this out - update all your drivers first, THEN update 'Skip Ahead'. The stable version seems to be much more forgiving in this regard.

Anyway, Peppermint rules and winders drools. What can I tell you?  ::)
Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: VinDSL on July 24, 2018, 08:01:17 pm
BTW, speaking of 'Skip Ahead'...

If you want to apply for a seat, MS just temporarily opened it up: https://goo.gl/8gdJQN

Hop on it, if you like breakage  8)
Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: scifidude79 on July 24, 2018, 08:24:30 pm
It's funny, I don't remember being so anoyed with Windows updates when I was a Windows user .. now they drive me nutz.

Bit like your first SSD .. it's hard to go back once your eyes have been opened :)

Oh, I was annoyed with them even back before I tried Linux. My Vista computer (the one that got me to start using Linux) took forever to update. It irked me to no end having to wait for it. In fact, when I first tried Ubuntu, I was expecting the same and was flooded by the speed. Windows 7 was no better than Vista with updating. Both took ages to even find a list of available updates, then they had to be downloaded, which took needlessly long. I swear, Microsoft must have the slowest update servers. Then there was the incredibly long process of installing the updates, at the end of which was the inevitable reboot. But, that wasn't the end, as it continued during the reboot. Ugh. Between doing a fresh Win 7 install and updates, you could count on a few hours going by, even with fast Internet. Meanwhile, you could have done several full installs and updates on Linux machines in that time.  At least Windows 10 updates in the background; you only find out about it when you go to shutdown or reboot.
Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: perknh on July 24, 2018, 08:27:05 pm
I always used to dread Patch Tuesdays during my Windows Vista days.  Updating seemingly took forever, and sometimes patches wouldn't take at all back then.  Then there were those dreadful antivirus programs you needed to use in Windows.  And how about those proprietary codes you had to enter upon installation?  And, if they didn't take, you had to make those long and humiliating calls to India that first required you to plead and argue your case that you had purchased your Windows program.  Then, after that, you would be required to enter a long series of numeric codes in a dozen or so boxes -- all so you could hear a little bell go off time and time again after entering the codes correctly.  Good grief! ::)

No, I don't miss any of that aggravation.

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Anyway, Peppermint rules and winders drools. What can I tell you?  ::) -- VinDSL

Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: scifidude79 on July 24, 2018, 08:38:54 pm
XBOX consoles take forever to update too. Seriously, there's something wrong with Microsoft updates.

I personally only run Windows when I need to run a program I can't in Linux. Otherwise, I just run Peppermint. But, I like having the option to play a Windows game or run the other Windows programs I like, so I put up with the Windows BS when necessary. I actually find Win10 to not be as bad as I've heard, though I've also deactivated most of the annoying features.
Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: VinDSL on July 24, 2018, 08:42:33 pm
Thanks, perknh. You may have saved my bacon  :D

I just read several articles concerning MS reopening 'Skip Ahead' temporarily, and couldn't figure out if I needed to reapply or not.

So, I dug the "Road Warrior' back out of my bag and checked. Sure enough, it was prompting me to choose the preview level I wanted.

Looks like I still have a seat. Here's a snappy of my custom Redstone 5 install, skinned with a Peppermint 7 theme, of course... LoL

 
(http://vindsl.com/images/skip-ahead-24.7.2018.PNG)
Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: perknh on July 24, 2018, 09:16:24 pm
https://www.techradar.com/news/windows-10-redstone-5-rumors-release-date

Well you've made your custom version look nice, VinDSL, and the more Windows becomes like Peppermint, the more I will like it. ;)

Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: VinDSL on July 24, 2018, 09:52:46 pm
Well you've made your custom version look nice, VinDSL, and the more Windows becomes like Peppermint, the more I will like it. ;)

It's a mind game, perk.

I use the Opera browser in winders and Peppermint. Dittos for the Thunderbird mail client.

I spend most of my time playing around on web sites, listening to music and reading/writing emails.

Truthfully, with the Peppermint theming, after a few minutes, I forget which operating system I'm using.

I know that's hard to fathom, but believe it or not, that's the way it is.

I suppose, if one was a die-hard winders fanboi, the opposite would be true - make Peppermint look like winders 10.

Matter of fact, somebody told me recently, the reason Peppermint is so popular is because it looks like winders - no kidding. I was slack jawed, until I thought about it.
Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: perknh on July 24, 2018, 10:50:48 pm
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It's a mind game, perk. -- VinDSL

My mind plays a game with me when I think about security versus privacy in Windows.  Although I know Windows 10 has a better track record with security than previous editions of Windows, I feel it's at the expense of personal privacy.  On the other hand, when I use Windows 8.1, although I know it is probably a more private version of Windows than Windows 10 (after you enable the disablement of One Drive), it ends up being at the expensive of security.  So, in other words, no matter which way I go with Windows, I feel I'm always working within a lose-lose scenario:  I either lose privacy or I lose security -- it's either one or the other  Then, on top of all this, we're supposed to pay for the experience of using Windows.  Ouch!

That's the game my mind plays with me when I use Windows.  I guess what I'm saying is...is that I don't really trust Windows a whole heck of a lot.

P.S.

I will admit Windows 8.1 can look really nice with a little bit of tweaking.  I don't want to say that everything is bad about Windows. ;)

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“If you can’t make it good, at least make it look good.” – Bill Gates


Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: The PoorGuy on July 24, 2018, 11:03:13 pm
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Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: spence on July 25, 2018, 12:51:56 am
I personally only run Windows when I need to run a program I can't in Linux. Otherwise, I just run Peppermint. But, I like having the option to play a Windows game or run the other Windows programs I like, so I put up with the Windows BS when necessary. I actually find Win10 to not be as bad as I've heard, though I've also deactivated most of the annoying features.

I hadn't used anything Microsloth since deleting my WinXP partition on the old Toshiba Qosmio back in 2011... But I am dual booting Win10 on both my desktop and laptop nowadays... only because it's nice to see what my mom sees on her laptop when she calls for help. Otherwise i have no use for it... 

I'm not paying for it.... as happily... MS is so eager to have users that they accepted my old WinXP license from 2006 when I upgraded the desktop, as well as my Mom's Win7 license that originally shipped with this Toshiba in 2011.

Since I'm not a gamer, I have a hard time finding a use for it. Perhaps when I start diving back into photo archiving and management I'll be reinstalling IrfanView, for I've never found a linux program which I find as intuitive.

Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: spence on July 25, 2018, 12:59:01 am
It's funny, I don't remember being so anoyed with Windows updates when I was a Windows user .. now they drive me nutz.

Only because... we didn't know things could be any different... trying watching a show you copied onto a VCR tape and you'll wonder how we ever watched TV pre HDTV...
Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: spence on July 25, 2018, 01:02:34 am
I still use Windows 7 OS because of reasons unknown to anyone Linux will not allow me to login to my state department retirement website and uncertain what I will use when Windows 7 OS reaches EOL.  :-\


Neither I nor my hubster ever touched Vista... Hubby is also a State Dept Retiree... happily logging in with Win10... which he loves...
Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: The PoorGuy on July 25, 2018, 01:09:42 am
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Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: The PoorGuy on July 25, 2018, 01:27:52 am
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Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: VinDSL on July 25, 2018, 07:24:42 am
Modern electronics just don't compare in quality with vintage electronics as modern day electronics is disposable garbage.

This got me thinking... about timepieces. Which do you prefer, mechanical or electronic?

Personally, I've always used 'wind-up' clocks - currently a schoolhouse clock, and two mantel clocks.

But, on my wrist, I prefer "vintage electronics"  - specifically a Casio CA53W-1 (https://www.casio.com/products/watches/databank/ca53w-1).

They still make this model - probably gone through 3-4 of them since the last century. Nothing else works for me.  ;)
Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: pin on July 25, 2018, 08:14:57 am
... Ah, Netflix is another reason a computer user might want to keep Windows around! ;)

??Why??
Netflix runs just fine on Linux, both with Chrome and/or Firefox, as long as you are running a distro using glibC, which are... hmm, ...most of them!
Netflix won't run with other C libraries, so it doesn't run on my Void Linux laptop, since I'm using musl-libC. It doesn't run on my Alpine Linux VM, again musl-libC and it doesn't run on my NetBSD laptop since BSD's have their own C libraries.

EDIT: Just checked, Netflix supports Opera also!
Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: perknh on July 25, 2018, 10:53:27 am
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??Why??
Netflix runs just fine on Linux, both with Chrome and/or Firefox, as long as you are running a distro using glibC, which are... hmm, ...most of them! -- pin

Ah, good.  I see things have changed concerning Linux and Netflix since the last time I looked into them.  Thank you, pin. :)

Netflix debuts on Firefox for Linux, but not everyone's happy about it

By Ian Paul for PCWorld

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3183742/data-center-cloud/netflix-debuts-on-firefox-for-linux-but-not-everyones-happy-about-it.html



Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: VinDSL on July 25, 2018, 11:07:29 am


... Ah, Netflix is another reason a computer user might want to keep Windows around! ;)
Just checked, Netflix supports Opera also!

Gotta love that Opera.




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Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: pin on July 25, 2018, 11:23:55 am
Netflix debuts on Firefox for Linux, but not everyone's happy about it

By Ian Paul for PCWorld

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3183742/data-center-cloud/netflix-debuts-on-firefox-for-linux-but-not-everyones-happy-about-it.html

Well DRM is what it is.
I don't like it either, but currently if you want Netflix you have to accept that.

Funny thing...
Netflix servers run FreeBSD and developers claim that Netflix contributes back to FreeBSD. Still, you can't watch Netflix on FreeBSD ???


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Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: pin on July 25, 2018, 11:39:29 am


... Ah, Netflix is another reason a computer user might want to keep Windows around! ;)
Just checked, Netflix supports Opera also!

Gotta love that Opera.




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Every supported browser is good. Although,  killing DRM content would be even better.

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Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: perknh on July 25, 2018, 01:48:13 pm
I know next to nothing about DRM, and I don't even use Netflix.  I just do my best to keep a friend's computers up to snuff.  (She's running classic Peppermint 6 along with classic Windows 7!) I remember the day when Linux (or was it Mint? :-\) would support Netflix but Netflix wouldn't support Linux (Mint?).  I'm glad to hear those days are over. :)

Yeah, Opera is a terrific browser, and I like it a lot -- especially its Norwegian privacy policy (https://www.opera.com/privacy).  Also Firefox seems to be running even better than ever in Peppermint 9 and Ubuntu GNOME.  At least that's been my experience.  Firefox is not nearly as choppy as I remember it being before, AND it has a feature most Chromium-based browsers lack (with the notable exception of Yandex) and that is the ability to set a master password (https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/use-master-password-protect-stored-logins) in order to protect users' passwords.  Therefore we need to share the love with Firefox too! ;)


Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: The PoorGuy on July 25, 2018, 04:19:48 pm
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Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: PCNetSpec on July 25, 2018, 04:41:50 pm
I want one of those massively chunky 70's Omega or Commodore LED (pre LCD) watches with the huge slab of red glass :)
(you know the ones, the first "space age" watches that dropped jaws for 10 minutes in the 70's before LCD killed them off .. Oh, and what ever happened to stereos with "feather touch" switches ?)
Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: perknh on July 25, 2018, 04:55:16 pm
Here (https://www.omegawatches.com/en-us/watch-omega-speedmaster-racing-co-axial-chronograph-40-mm-32630405011001) you go, PCNetSpec.  And it's less that 5 grand!!

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Having been a part of all six lunar missions, the OMEGA Speedmaster is one of OMEGA’s most iconic timepieces. The legendary Speedmaster is an impressive representation of the brand’s adventurous pioneering spirit, which is underscored by the modernised OMEGA Speedmaster Racing.

This model features a red dial covered by a scratch-resistant sapphire crystal and graced by a date window, a small seconds sub-dial, 30-minute recorder and 12-hour recorder; each of the black sub-dials has a textured “Clous de Paris” pattern.

The bezel, with its matt black aluminium tachymetric ring, is mounted on a 40 mm stainless steel case and is presented on a stainless steel bracelet. Powering this timepiece is the Co-Axial calibre 3330.

And it even tells the time! :D
Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: PCNetSpec on July 25, 2018, 06:40:29 pm
You misunderstand me perknh, I meant one of these bricks from the 70's

(https://i.imgur.com/JnKu14e.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/nZnbuGy.jpg)

I remember thinking those so SOOOOO cool at the (timex) time :o
Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: VinDSL on July 25, 2018, 07:03:35 pm
Loved those LED watches, but man, did they eat batteries!?!?!

Went through a few metal-cased calculator watches too, before settling on the plastic, fantastic Casio CA53W-1.

I'm tough on watches and this poor little 'nerd watch' needs protection, so I complete the look with a paramilitary watch band.

I'll go through 5-10 of these watch bands, before the Casio LCD display dies. The Velcro will die long before the organic display.

I buy Rothco Commando nylon watch bands (black) (https://www.rothco.com/product/rothco-commando-watchband) three at a time ...


https://youtu.be/jGFZRkTEAkM
Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: perknh on July 25, 2018, 07:21:49 pm
You misunderstand me perknh, I meant one of these bricks from the 70's

I remember thinking those so SOOOOO cool at the (timex) time :o

I remember that style and I thought they really cool too.  I still like the simplicity of them, and that was the last style of watch I ever wore regularly -- a cheaper plastic version of it, that is.

Nowadays I just use my mobile phone as my watch.  Every now and then I do try to wear a watch, but I notice that wearing a watch feels uncomfortable to me now. 

Funny how things change.

P.S.

@VinDSL

Just watched your video.  That's the width watchband I used to wear, and, yeah, I used to bang up my watches a lot too.  That protective watchband is excellent idea -- especially if you're doing manual labor.
Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: scifidude79 on July 25, 2018, 08:11:09 pm
Well DRM is what it is.
I don't like it either, but currently if you want Netflix you have to accept that.

Well, you have to expect a company like Netflix, which doesn't have content for free, to use DRM. It's only common sense, as they have to protect what they've paid good money to allow people to stream. Hulu requires DRM enabled too, so does Amazon.
Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: PCNetSpec on July 25, 2018, 08:34:44 pm
I keep looking at the Omega LED, and wondering why it needs headphones :))

(https://i.imgur.com/JnKu14e.jpg)
Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: perknh on July 25, 2018, 08:55:54 pm
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I keep looking at the Omega LED, and wondering why it needs headphones :)) -- PCNetSpec

 :))
Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: The PoorGuy on July 25, 2018, 10:36:36 pm
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Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: VinDSL on July 25, 2018, 11:00:23 pm
Dang, that was fast - Redstone 6 19H1 (meaning '1st half of 2019') just rolled in. Thx, perk.

Another reason you should switch from winders to Linux.

Oh, well, there goes another couple of hours...  ::)


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Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: VinDSL on July 26, 2018, 12:47:47 am
Fresh Redstone 6 base build installed on the first try. Yay  8)

Spent the whole time looking at Karlie Kloss photos on Peppermint: https://goo.gl/WCS3F8

What a fox!

Okay, gotta be up in 4 hours. BBL
Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: pin on July 26, 2018, 01:59:19 am
Well DRM is what it is.
I don't like it either, but currently if you want Netflix you have to accept that.

Well, you have to expect a company like Netflix, which doesn't have content for free, to use DRM. It's only common sense, as they have to protect what they've paid good money to allow people to stream. Hulu requires DRM enabled too, so does Amazon.
Yes, of course.
But, you do realize that it's support on Linux is simply a side-effect of Chrome OS being based on Linux?!
Microsoft has it's own PlayReady, Apple has FairPlay and Linux "got lucky" this time around and can use Google Widevine.

Well, not everyone "got lucky"!
Why should someone running another OS or, actually just a different C-library be automatically locked-out? How difficult would it be for Google to compile it's code against a few more C-libraries, so others can use it?

Please note, I'm not against what you wrote, but if you are paying for it, you should be able to watch it on whatever device you want. Or, at the very least, before you pay get a warning like "you seem to be using an unsupported operating system..."

You see, I'm not going as far as https://www.defectivebydesign.org/
...but please, let's not restrict freedom of choice!

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Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: scifidude79 on July 26, 2018, 06:10:41 am
But, you do realize that it's support on Linux is simply a side-effect of Chrome OS being based on Linux?!

Yep, knew that all along. After all, you can't keep the cheapo Google netbook crowd twisting in the wind, just us normal folks with grown up computers running real Linux.  ::)
Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: pepperOS on October 04, 2018, 10:47:30 am
if you can not afford new hardware and with every major update of win10 there are problems than their is no fun anymore working with computers.
the time that it is consuming is enormous if you have multiple devices.
now with Peppermint, i enjoy being online again and can use my time with my hobby's and not fixing windows.

i know, there are some minor problems.
1 i could not read the artikel with firefox
2 i wanted to copy some files to a sd card to open it later in windows to fix a smartphone, and i can't use them in windows.

but still the fun is much greater than working with win10.
don't want to go back
Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: PCNetSpec on October 04, 2018, 10:51:01 am
You're probably using the wrong file system on your SD card .. make sure you format it as FAT32 or NTFS and both Linux and Windows should be able to read/write it.
Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: stevesveryown on October 04, 2018, 09:55:12 pm
I worked on 3 laptops yesterday trying to update to windows 10 1809. Not one was successful and one of them got borked when the laptop shut down. I was so mad that I had to go hug my peppermint desktop for comfort.

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Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: PCNetSpec on October 05, 2018, 07:31:07 am
And they say Linux is harder right!!!

And that there's better hardware support under Windows....

I currently have an Intel 7260-AC wireless card that Win10 tells me there's a problem with and won't enable (Dell E6540) .. works perfectly under Peppermint ???

Same card works perfectly under Win10 and Peppermint on another machine (Dell E6530) .. go figure :-\
(so much for Windows plug'n'play)
Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: scifidude79 on October 05, 2018, 09:14:45 am
Let's not forget those wait times.

(https://evilgenius180.files.wordpress.com/2018/10/winupdatewait.jpg)

Seriously, booted into Windows 10, ran an update check. I checked for updates at 8:10 AM. It finished installing two updates about 8:50 AM. I rebooted into Peppermint 9. The update check had already ran and I installed about a dozen or more updates in about two minutes.

So, yeah. And, it's not just Windows on computers. The XBOX consoles take forever to update too, usually when you just want to play a game for a little while or watch something. ::)
Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: pin on October 05, 2018, 10:51:54 am
Wow  :o !!
Only 40min  :o
Last time I had an update at work it took 2h30min...
Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: VinDSL on October 05, 2018, 11:14:23 am
Not sticking up for winders, but I have '10' successfully dual-booted with Peppermint 7&9 on several machines - some with Secure Boot - both stable installs and 'Skip Ahead' - all running Linux 4.8&4.9 kernels.

I update everything several times a week, and the winders installs can take 1-4 hours, but I haven't had a failure in months.

The trick is to have your hardware, drivers and BIOS updated, and keep them that way. Otherwise, winders will give you the finger without warning.

Just saying...

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Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: PCNetSpec on October 05, 2018, 03:00:40 pm
To tell the truth Windows update is pretty reliable these days .. just so ferkin s-l-o-w <yawn>
(specially on a fresh install, where getting it up to date can take all day, with 8 update cycles/reboots)

Linux - Even where you have hundreds of updates generally takes minutes.

Problem I'm have now with Windows updates is the way they keep overriding settings I've applied, which is damn annoying because it takes you a while to get a handle on what's likely to get reset to defaults, on which computers, and when.

[EDIT]

Have you noticed that Windows update takes an inordinate amount of time cataloguing your system before it even starts downloading updates ?

I'm beginning to suspect Windows update has only become reliable because it's NOT cataloguing your system at all .. what's happening is you're put in a queue awaiting a senior technician who connects remotely and runs updates individually one at a time :))

Why the **** can't it keep a running catalogue (like Linux does), why do you appear to have to go through that half hour cataloguing after each update cycle and reboot ?
(or is it because you're now at the back of the senior tech's queue again)
Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: perknh on October 05, 2018, 09:42:11 pm
Reasons to use or not use Windows off the top of my head.

Reasons to use Windows:

1) When you first boot up Windows 10, Windows 10 has some beautiful Spotlight images which change quite frequently.  In other words, Windows 10 has many pretty pictures.

2) You can play with browsers such as Google's Canary Browser, or Opera Neon, in Windows.

3) Skype integrates best with Windows.

4) You have friends or family members who have Windows, and because of this you're able to talk somewhat knowledgeably about the Windows if you're running Windows yourself.

5) Some of its apps, such as its news or weather app, are pretty good.

6) Windows has a digital assistant called Cortana.

7) Photos in an external hard drives look better when plugged into a Windows computer than one running Linux.


Reasons not to use Windows:

1) Windows needs to run an antivirus program, and Windows is frequently subject to attack.

2) Its updating process can take a long time.

3) There is very little support in Windows.

4) You have to buy it -- even though it profits off of your personal data.

5) You have to keep and eye on and update individual programs as well as keep an eye on and update Windows OS separately itself.

6) You have to go online frequently to download programs which may or may not have been vetted for malware or privacy and security issues.

7) Even if you can read code, you won't be able to read the proprietary code of Windows.  You have to have blind faith that Windows programs are secure and well intentioned. 
Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: VinDSL on October 05, 2018, 10:00:45 pm
1) When you first boot up Windows 10, Windows 10 has some beautiful Spotlight images which change quite frequently.  In other words, Windows 10 has many pretty pictures.

Heh! Wait until you see the spotlight login in winders 19H1 ('Redstone 6'). It's frosted/blurred.

Let me see if I can find a pic of the login screen in the 'Skip Ahead' preview...

Found one - picked at random on Bing:


(http://vindsl.com/images/8ee0a99a88529052e41b1e5a0ae8c7c2-1024x576-670x377.png)


Soon as one logs in, the 'frosting' disappears and the underlying wall/background is focused.

Beautiful affect! I think we should beat 'em to the punch on the next respin LoL  :D

Really WoWs ya. Never gets old. I'm surprised no one is talking about it ...
Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: perknh on October 05, 2018, 10:42:29 pm
Let's remember what Bill said! ;)

(https://i.imgur.com/rIm12kl.jpg)
Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: scifidude79 on October 06, 2018, 02:07:59 am
Reasons to use Windows:

-Windows only software, particularly games (I was just playing some Arkham Knight)

Reasons not to use Windows:

-Everything else
Title: Re: 5 Reasons You Should Switch From Windows To Linux Right Now
Post by: perknh on October 07, 2018, 02:40:27 pm
Reasons to use Windows:

-Windows only software, particularly games (I was just playing some Arkham Knight)

Reasons not to use Windows:

-Everything else

With a tweak or two, I see bumper sticker potential here.  Good one, scifidude79! ;)