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Title: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: PCNetSpec on June 22, 2018, 08:22:42 am
Team Peppermint are pleased to announce the immediate availability of the Peppermint 9 ISO's

You can get them from the regular place, the main Peppermint website:
https://peppermintos.com
then click one of the red download buttons.

You can read the release announcement here:
https://peppermintos.com/2018/06/peppermint-9-released/

We hope you enjoy it :)

(https://i.imgur.com/9MpaH6J.png)
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: pin on June 22, 2018, 08:23:40 am
Great stuff. Congratulations

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Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: zebedeeboss on June 22, 2018, 08:25:50 am
Congratulations  :D

Regards Zeb...

Torrents downloaded and seeding.
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: PCNetSpec on June 22, 2018, 08:29:46 am
Thanks guys :)

And cheers for seeding Zeb.

If anyone notices any mistakes on the main website, please let me know here .. TIA :)

Now off to let Distrowatch know.
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: scifidude79 on June 22, 2018, 08:34:36 am
It's good to see it's out in the wild now. As someone who's been using it for weeks now, I can say that it's smooth. In fact, I forgot I was using Alpha and Beta software, that's how good it is.  8)
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: JoeSh on June 22, 2018, 08:49:46 am
The day has finally come!

Congrats guys  ;)

EDIT: I'm all up and running now.  ;D
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: jlschwartz on June 22, 2018, 09:52:55 am
PCNetSpec,

Congratulations on another great Peppermint Release, and all of your hard work keep Peppermint the best distro.
Jeff
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: alynur on June 22, 2018, 11:12:02 am
Just posted the website to my facebook timeline.
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: pin on June 22, 2018, 12:21:55 pm
Now on distrowatch
https://distrowatch.com/table-mobile.php?distribution=peppermint

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Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: stevesveryown on June 22, 2018, 03:03:10 pm
Awesome, can't wait to get home now!

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Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: pin on June 22, 2018, 03:11:45 pm
@stevesveryown
No it doesn't ship with awesome, it's comes with xfwm

EDIT: Sorry, couldn't resist...

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Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: JoeSh on June 22, 2018, 05:22:04 pm
When I went to install Peppermint 9 and I saw a minimal install  :o

You guys just blow me away. What an absolute ACE IN A DECK OF CARDS.  :o
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: scifidude79 on June 22, 2018, 05:23:39 pm
When I went to install Peppermint 9 and I saw a minimal install  :o

It does the same thing as doing a full install, I'm sorry to say. I think that's just a leftover from Ubuntu.
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: PCNetSpec on June 22, 2018, 05:30:04 pm
Yeah I'm afraid to say the "minimal Install" option doesn't actually do anything at the moment .. we've always been a  kinda minimal install( distro anyway.

We left the option in place because we plan on using it in the respin to ship with LibreOffice and GIMP installed on the ISO (so they can be used in a Live session) but during an install the user gets the option to keep them or not.

In fact we were planning on that for Peppermint 9, but the installer crkept crashing whilst removing the LO and GIMP dependencies .. we hope to have this sorted by the respin :)

A quick look at the filesystem-manifest-minimal-remove contents on the *buntu ISO's suggest they cheat somewhat .. their minimal install configuration only removes the main packages and NOT all the orphaned dependencies. We weren't willing to go down that road because it would mean leaving unnecessary bloat on peoples system should they choose a minimal install (kinda defeating the object don't you think). We'll only make use of it when it can be made to clean up after itself **properly** and dependably..
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: zebedeeboss on June 22, 2018, 05:30:09 pm
When I went to install Peppermint 9 and I saw a minimal install  :o

It does the same thing as doing a full install, I'm sorry to say. I think that's just a leftover from Ubuntu.

You are right, the minimal install is from the 18.04 ubiquity installer where other buntu flavours load up with applications. We have always let the user decide what apps to install. So this time round minimal install is no different.

Regards Zeb...
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: JoeSh on June 22, 2018, 05:46:41 pm
When I went to install Peppermint 9 and I saw a minimal install  :o

It does the same thing as doing a full install, I'm sorry to say. I think that's just a leftover from Ubuntu.

I was recently talking about a minimal install on this forum. I just love that the option is there. Again, just another arrow in the Armour.
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: PCNetSpec on June 22, 2018, 05:53:47 pm
I do find it kinda funny how Ubuntu built in the Minimal Install option giving users the option to install something vaguely similar to our default position.

And yet we're planning on using the same option but looking at it from the opposite perspective .. so our ISO is more functional (say offline), but users can still choose "Minimal Install" to basically get the "normal" Pepermint experience :)

Basically they're giving people a "Minimal Install" option .. We'll be offering an "Additional Install" along with the a "Regular" (minimal) install :))



In fact I'm going to see if it'd be possible (in the respin) to have the "Minimal Install" option reworded to "Normal Peppermint Install" and set as the default state, and the other option called "With Extra Software" (that the user has to specifically choose) .. should be doable :)
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: Ly on June 22, 2018, 06:00:30 pm
congratulations to the Peppermint team !  :D
downloading it right now!
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: VinDSL on June 22, 2018, 06:30:27 pm
 ;D
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: JoeSh on June 22, 2018, 07:04:40 pm
Get the word out there. Linux? - Try Peppermint.
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: untrusted user on June 23, 2018, 01:55:54 am
 a short hello to send you a GZ for the new release

Torrents downloaded and seeding, and please forgive me if i will stay at 8 spin 2, because of serious reasons (maybe i will ask later and on another thread for a solution).

but now let me say thank you, peppermint-team, for the great work and interesting distro....  :)

and also let me say thank you to EB for his great, interesting and emotional videos about peppermint, he is responsible for my interest in peppermint...  ;)
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: AndyInMokum on June 23, 2018, 02:21:36 am
Hi CRLinux, how's it going  :)?  Welcome to the Peppermint Forum, it's really nice to meet you  ;).  Thank you for your kind words and for seeding the ISO.  That's a huge help  ;).  Yeah, EB does get all fired up when it comes to Peppermint.  He loves it with a passion  ;D.  There's no need to apologize.  Peppermint 8 Respin-2 is a very fine distro and it will receive support through April of 2021 - that can't be bad eh :)!    If it's working for you, there's absolutely no reason to upgrade to the new version  ;).
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: pin on June 23, 2018, 02:26:11 am
Yeah, as Andy said!
Although,... I can't help to get curious as to what your "issue" with 9 could be...
Something related to your hardware and the kernel??

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Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: jeffiths on June 23, 2018, 10:19:13 am
Downloaded and seeding. Thanks to the Peppermint team for the hard work. Best OS out there!
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: PCNetSpec on June 23, 2018, 10:22:04 am
For my part, you're more than welcome jeffiths, in fact it's an honour you chose Peppermint :)
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: jeffrydada on June 24, 2018, 01:26:32 pm
can I use sudu apt-get upgrade from v.8 to v.9?
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: PCNetSpec on June 24, 2018, 02:17:36 pm
I'm afraid not jeffrydada, Peppermint 9 requires a fresh installation .. that said, Peppermint 8 is still fully supported so there's no rush to upgrade. Only move to 9 when you're good and ready ;)

Oh, and welcome to the forum :)
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: jeffrydada on June 25, 2018, 12:25:21 am
Thanks for the reponse, I love Peppermint!  As it turns out I should be OK i keep my home folder separate from my root folder so I'll just try a reinstall of the root partition and it should work just fine.  Keep up the good work guys
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: Slim.Fatz on June 25, 2018, 04:20:52 am
Hi jeffrydada,

Unfortunately, that might cause you problems. The old /home directory has your configuration files for various programs, and these can sometimes be no longer compatible with the programs in Peppermint 9 (e.g. a newer version that might use different configuration options).  ???

Therefore, it is best to backup your personal data files (docs, pictures, music, etc) and then create a new /home directory during the fresh installation of Peppermint 9.  ;)
Regards,

 -- Slim
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: AndyInMokum on June 25, 2018, 04:26:20 am
Thanks for the reponse, I love Peppermint!  As it turns out I should be OK i keep my home folder separate from my root folder so I'll just try a reinstall of the root partition and it should work just fine.  Keep up the good work guys

No, it doesn't matter the /home folder is separate.  Your old /home folder contains .configuration files for Peppermint 8.  That's based on the Ubuntu 16.04 LTS source code.  Peppermint 9 is based on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS source code.  What you're proposing to do will cause conflicts and you will end up with a broken installation  :'(.  You need to do a full, clean installation  ;). 

Edit: I see Slim.Fatz beat me to it :)).  Speaking of Slim.Fatz.  To make future installations really simple and painless.  You should consider creating a user defined /DATA partition.  This simple and very effective modification, will make upgrading to a new distro release ridiculously simple.  You won't have to worry about configuration file conflicts.  You can even do some sneaky distro hopping without losing any data, or breaking your system  ;).  What's more, you can dual boot either with another Linux distro(s) and/or Windows and share folders and files - powerful stuff eh  8)!   

Back to Slim.Fatz.  He's written an excellent step by step tutorial, on how to create a /DATA partition and connect it by using symlinks.  You can find the tutorial by following this link: How To: Use symlinks to a DATA partition (https://forum.peppermintos.com/index.php/topic,1835.msg17460.html#msg17460).  I highly recommend doing this.  It's a splendid novice project and it's incredibly useful  ;).
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: kloos on June 25, 2018, 09:12:08 am
I am excited but slightly sad.  :D :(
One of the beauties of Linux are the seamless updates.  No waiting for hours, no rebooting 100's of times, just simple click and leave...

But now I have to re-install completely to get the latest version?!?! :-[  What about all of my settings such as Thunderbird and dropbox... Will they be kept?  If not then I will have to cling on to 8 until there is an easy way to port all of the settings over.  :-\    I don't have the energy to make a note of all of my programme settings.
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: spence on June 25, 2018, 09:49:09 am
Don't despair Kloos! Looking back Team Peppermint have always preferred and recommended full fresh installations. But if you have a separate DATA partition all of your files and some of your settings will remain intact. A HOME partition however holds on to settings from peppermint 8 that will need adjusting and recreating... Truthfully, it'll be quicker to start clean. So let us know if your p8 instrall had set had a HOME or DATA partition in a new support thread and someone'll advise you from there.

 ;)
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: TonyBronze on June 25, 2018, 10:36:37 am
I use Thunderbird and you definitely can save the config file and use it on a new installation to restore all your settings.

In your home folder, right click and select show hidden files.  Open the one called .thunderbird and copy the folder that has a series of numbers and letters ending in .default.

When you do a new install, before you install Thunderbird, create a folder in your home directory called .thunderbird  Copy the folder into it and then when you install Thunderbird, all your settings will be as before.

Not sure about Dropbox as I don't use it.
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: PCNetSpec on June 25, 2018, 11:14:02 am
Yep. same thing can be done with:-

Firefox - backup and transfer ~/.mozilla

Chrome - backup and transfer ~/.config/google-chrome

Chromium - backup and transfer ~/.config/chromium

Dropbox - backup and transfer ~/.dropbox    (and if you also want the local content ~/Dropbox)



Personally I backup the entire home folder, then after reinstalling transfer stuff across manually as and when I come across missing stuff .. that way I'm safe if I forget anything.

I also backup /etc for the same reasons, this may be less important for most users but I have all the openvpn connections to the Peppermint servers in there along with some other custom network configurations.
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: jeffrydada on June 25, 2018, 02:27:51 pm
Ah! Thanks so much! I didn't consider the change in base software. I'm reading Slim.Fatz's tutorial now, it's very good.  My desktop is a dual boot system with 10 TB of HD space. (2 - 3tb drives and 2 - 2tb drives) Peppermint is my "work" system on one of the 3tb drives.  On one of the 2tb drives I run a KDE Neon based KXStudio for recording music. The other 2 drives are used for data backup of my /home folders. It seems like - in theory - that I could take Slim.Fatz's instructions and turn one of my backup drives into a /DATA partition.  That could be very useful whenever I'm using Peppermint and want to transfer a file from one OS to the other with out the need of opening Nemo as root.  Thanks to TonyBronze for the Thunderbird reminder, I have an Apple mail account and it's always a pain to set up with their 2 part ID system.  ::)  BTW I'm glad I joined this forum everyone is very helpful, thank you!  ;D
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: stevesveryown on June 25, 2018, 02:38:08 pm
I do find it kinda funny how Ubuntu built in the Minimal Install option giving users the option to install something vaguely similar to our default position.

And yet we're planning on using the same option but looking at it from the opposite perspective .. so our ISO is more functional (say offline), but users can still choose "Minimal Install" to basically get the "normal" Pepermint experience :)

Basically they're giving people a "Minimal Install" option .. We'll be offering an "Additional Install" along with the a "Regular" (minimal) install :))



In fact I'm going to see if it'd be possible (in the respin) to have the "Minimal Install" option reworded to "Normal Peppermint Install" and set as the default state, and the other option called "With Extra Software" (that the user has to specifically choose) .. should be doable :)
Peppermint 9 installed in about 10 minutes on my hp elitebook 8440p. It has an i7 and 4gigs of ram.  That has to be the fastest I've installed peppermint.

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Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: jeffrydada on June 25, 2018, 03:03:51 pm

I agree, 9 is fast I think it was about 11 minutes on my '09 MacBookPro! And as a bonus this old laptop performs faster and better than it ever did under OSX!! I love watching people at the coffee shop freak out when they see it's not running OSX then blow their minds  :o at how fast apps open (almost instantly!)  :P
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: Fritz74 on June 25, 2018, 03:28:25 pm
I am tempted to install version 9, as it looks great in the reviews on YouTube. On the other hand, I just installed version 8 three weeks ago and it works flawlessly. So the installation will probably be delayed to a boring day in autumn. ;)
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: pin on June 25, 2018, 03:30:58 pm
You can always install 9 respin

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Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: AndyInMokum on June 25, 2018, 07:08:05 pm

I agree, 9 is fast I think it was about 11 minutes on my '09 MacBookPro! And as a bonus this old laptop performs faster and better than it ever did under OSX!! I love watching people at the coffee shop freak out when they see it's not running OSX then blow their minds  :o at how fast apps open (almost instantly!)  :P

I know how you feel.  I get the same, slightly pitying looks when I walk into a coffee house with my older machines.  Those pitying looks change PDQ, when they see how, high octane dragster quick my "older' machines are.  I think it's hysterical :))!!
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: AndyInMokum on June 25, 2018, 08:23:16 pm
...However since they are friends of mine they are really  :o when I give it back to them as I found this is the best way to at least introduce an unwilling Windows user to Peppermint Linux.  ;)

Yeah, you can lead a horse to water, you can't make it drink though.  Many people think of Linux as a second rate alternative to Windows.  Or, they're under the common misconception, it's hard to use.  To most people, having a home PC necessitates using M$ products only.  The two are indivisible.  The computer comes with Windows preinstalled; I must therefore use/buy M$ products.  It's embossed into people's psyche.  They think it's some sort of trick when they see Linux actually working on metal, especially old metal.  To some, it's an epiphany, to most it's remains some sort of parlour trick with all kinds of catches to it.  It's sad but true  :(.
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: kloos on June 26, 2018, 04:37:54 am
Don't despair Kloos! Looking back Team Peppermint have always preferred and recommended full fresh installations. But if you have a separate DATA partition all of your files and some of your settings will remain intact. A HOME partition however holds on to settings from peppermint 8 that will need adjusting and recreating... Truthfully, it'll be quicker to start clean. So let us know if your p8 instrall had set had a HOME or DATA partition in a new support thread and someone'll advise you from there.

 ;)
Thanks Spence.  I will look into it later and see what is there.  In truth I don't have that many settings, but I was surprised that you needed a complete install.  I'm, fairly new to linux so will have to get used to this kind of thing.  The price of progress  :D
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: zebedeeboss on June 26, 2018, 05:01:08 am
Hi Kloos,

We are looking to introduce upgrading at some point - but our unique blend of components from different projects make that particular aspect quite difficult.

I, for one, prefer the speed and stability of Peppermint over the "benefit" of doing a Ver to Ver upgrade. Re-install once a year is a small price to pay  ;D

Regards Zeb...
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: pin on June 26, 2018, 05:03:45 am
Quote
Thanks Spence.  I will look into it later and see what is there.  In truth I don't have that many settings, but I was surprised that you needed a complete install.  I'm, fairly new to linux so will have to get used to this kind of thing.  The price of progress  :D

I'll probably get quite a few fellow  users banging on about this, but...
If you have a spare machine, you could try a rolling release distro. Be prepared for a few glitches everynow and then, things like kernel regressions, API changes, required dependencies, etc...
If you are willing to have a semi-broken system for a few hours and are ready to get your hands dirty to fix it. Give it a try.

Personally, I like it. That's why I have two laptops, Peppermint and Void running. I wouldn't do it if my work would depend on one machine only.

Regards
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: PCNetSpec on June 26, 2018, 10:56:05 am
Thanks Spence.  I will look into it later and see what is there.  In truth I don't have that many settings, but I was surprised that you needed a complete install.  I'm, fairly new to linux so will have to get used to this kind of thing.  The price of progress  :D

Theoretically we could do a do-dist-upgrade script, but it would require us modifying config files in the users home directory .. we decided long ago modifying anything in the users home directory is off limits because of the risk of undoing user applied customisations.

There's also our opinion that do-dist-upgrade's often go wrong, and don't encourage a strong "backup first" ethos/culture. I mean think of this situation - The user has an encrypted disk, hasn't backed up because they trust the do-dist-upgrade, and the upgrade fails. They may well have just permanently lost access to everything on their system :o .. would you like to have to offer support in that circumstance, or be seen to have to say "nothing we can do mate, sorry" ?

I know other OS's are happy to do this, but I'm not happy encouraging people to do something that may risk their data .. I'd MUCH rather people moan at us for not having an easy upgrade path than moan at us because they just lost all their data ;)
(not because we're afraid of being moaned at, but because we'd rather they not have lost their data in the first place)

So .. If a user wants to manually change the repos, and risk an in place upgrade that's their choice, but it's not our policy and we'd strongly advise against it unless they understand the implications and know how to dig themselves out of hole should things go wrong ;)
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: English Bob on June 27, 2018, 12:10:44 am
Congratz All

Thanks to the Pepp team for so many happy computing hours on what I believe is the best distro you can get, now we have Pepp 9 and with it a metric arse ton of happy computing hours, thanks so much all for your hard work. 8)
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: pin on June 27, 2018, 08:29:02 am
This is not the most important thing, but... cool.  8)

Looking good  there  ;)

(https://i.imgur.com/Zd0AIP9.jpg)
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: English Bob on June 27, 2018, 08:31:22 am
This is not the most important thing, but... cool.  8)

Looking good  there  ;)

(https://i.imgur.com/Zd0AIP9.jpg)

All down to me then..........giggles and *RUNS*
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: PCNetSpec on June 27, 2018, 04:44:51 pm
LOL, I might have agreed with you more EB if you weren't currently running Neon and being hypnotised by the glitter like a magpie with a shiny milk bottle gold top. Mmm .. can't resist the shine :P ;)

(https://i.imgur.com/XNbkkBm.png)
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: DARKBOW923 on June 28, 2018, 01:18:01 pm
Congratulations team peppermint! I need to substitute my linux mint to install the new peppermint version.. i hope it works perfectly in my new PC..
--
Regards.
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: stratleray on June 28, 2018, 04:44:22 pm
Congratz with a great distro and also great ranking on DW!

What exactly do they count on DW? Hits on their own page or hits on peppermintos.com homepage?
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: PCNetSpec on June 28, 2018, 07:47:49 pm
Hits on the peppermint section of their page I presume .. it's certainly not hits on our page, even we don't track those, so there's no way they could ;)

The distrowatch rankings are all just a bit of fun and shouldn't be taken seriously, they're certainly not indicative of reality .. someone has obviously lately set up a bot to keep hammering away at the Manjaro link because there is NO WAY they're the most popular distro.

In reality I'd expect Ubuntu is bigger than all the others combined.

And then most people don't go to distrowatch for their distro.

We'll shoot up the ranking only for a short period because they advertised the new release on their front page so people would have clicked on it .. and I purposefully chose the rankings just over the last 7 days, so it'll be badly skewed by that fact.

As I said, just a bit of fun :)

Thanks for the congratz though stratleray :)
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: coyote on July 08, 2018, 02:04:39 pm
big thanks to the "pepp-team"!  ;)

for myself, i don't know...
maybe i am a little bit disappointed...  :o

i love PM8 respin. it runs great, has for me no problems, and it looks and feels very nice...
the out-of-the-box-experience is awesome...

it is hard and sad to say, but PM9 is not near as good...
i really miss the "peppermix-theme" (the new one, based on arc, makes it all bigger, and sized it all up) and some new "Ray Bilcliff's"-wallpaper...
i know it is just the look & feel, but it is somewhere important to me...
anyway, thats just me. in the end of the day you can customized it to the way you want...
i have to tweak more settings to make PM9 working great like PM8 does (for example automount)...
maybe it (PM9) needs a little more time to me. don't know if i should upgrade my PM8 respin...

anyway, again: great job! please keep up the good work!





Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: pin on July 08, 2018, 02:28:46 pm
Hmm!
You had a look at my screenshot earlier, at least you reply to it... The icons on that shot are Peppermix ;)

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Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: PCNetSpec on July 08, 2018, 08:43:33 pm
Theming, you'll never please everyone .. but we try to make thinks as easy as possible to change.

The "Peppermix" Gtk theme was badly broken in Gtk 3.22 .. so it had to go I'm afraid .. if you wanna blame someone, blame Gnome, very few older themes work with Gtk 3.22 :(
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: coyote on July 09, 2018, 02:39:22 pm
indeed, i try it (copy the peppermix-theme to PM9)...
looks horrible...

currently the peppermint-grey-dark-theme looks o.k. to me...
normally i prefer blue, but the blue one ist too much blue...  :P
maybe i have to tweak the colours, to my preferences...

Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: pin on July 09, 2018, 02:42:50 pm
@coyote
Maybe this is not you at all, but I just love this theme https://github.com/ddnexus/equilux-theme
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: coyote on July 09, 2018, 02:54:47 pm
@pin:
hey, that looks quite nice...
a good base for customization...
thanks...  ;)
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: pin on July 09, 2018, 03:01:00 pm
Glad you like it  :)

Teaser...
(https://i.imgur.com/16fBQZN.png)
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: PCNetSpec on July 09, 2018, 05:24:16 pm
indeed, i try it (copy the peppermix-theme to PM9)...
looks horrible...

Yeah, Gtk 3.22 (as used in the 18.04 base) broke the vast majority of older themes .. hence the new ones.
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: clatterfordslim on July 10, 2018, 05:15:13 am
Team Peppermint are pleased to announce the immediate availability of the Peppermint 9 ISO's

You can get them from the regular place, the main Peppermint website:
https://peppermintos.com
then click one of the red download buttons.

You can read the release announcement here:
https://peppermintos.com/2018/06/peppermint-9-released/

We hope you enjoy it :)

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I'm enjoying the pants out of Pep 9, a lot of people are having problems in 18.04 with Nvidia drivers, luckily now I've said it  :D I have had no said problems. Just want to say thank you Peppermint team, for making all my computing world brilliant.  ;)
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: PCNetSpec on July 10, 2018, 05:39:20 am
As always you're most welcome CS, keep spreading the word on your YT channel .. much appreciated :)
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: coyote on October 07, 2018, 07:34:03 am
big thanks to the "pepp-team"!  ;)

for myself, i don't know...
maybe i am a little bit disappointed...  :o

i love PM8 respin. it runs great, has for me no problems, and it looks and feels very nice...
the out-of-the-box-experience is awesome...

it is hard and sad to say, but PM9 is not near as good...
i really miss the "peppermix-theme" (the new one, based on arc, makes it all bigger, and sized it all up) and some new "Ray Bilcliff's"-wallpaper...
i know it is just the look & feel, but it is somewhere important to me...
anyway, thats just me. in the end of the day you can customized it to the way you want...
i have to tweak more settings to make PM9 working great like PM8 does (for example automount)...
maybe it (PM9) needs a little more time to me. don't know if i should upgrade my PM8 respin...

anyway, again: great job! please keep up the good work!

now, after five weeks on PM9, i give PM9 a 8/10...
its not bad, its because there are many good distros out there...
it works fine on my laptop...
my desktop runs PM8 respin...
would i change, no...
my PM8 respin works, looks and feels beautiful  (out-of-the-box it is all in there)...

like in my first impression, i have to tweak more to get it run the way i prefer...
if i had some wishes for PM9 respin, so please:

- bring the automount back (peppermint-volman), or at least into the repos...
- a nice-looking dark-theme. the peppermix-theme on PM7/8 is awesome. sadly it doesn't work on PM9. the new PM9-dark-themes based on arc looks boring to me. nothing special. something dark based on numix, or adapta would be nice. like the beautiful peppermix-icons, they are unique. adapta-theme in the repos would be nice too...
-font configuration. i notice that on many others distros too. especially in firefox for example. what i do, i copy the /etc/fonts -folder from PM8 to PM9. this looks so much better...

that would be great...

Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: PCNetSpec on October 08, 2018, 09:23:40 am
Gtk theming is unlikely to change in the respin, but possibly (in fact **probably**) for Peppermint 10

peppermint-volman .. I'll consider this, but maybe just as a package in the repos as I personally find it annoying

Fonts .. I'll see what differences there are between the PM8 and PM9 pre-installed fonts.
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: stevesveryown on October 09, 2018, 12:09:07 am
PCNetSpec, if I may, since you are talking about gtk theme, the Peppermint-Grey-Dark theme, when used, wasn't showing the volume levels in Pulse Audio.  I posted a screen shot of Grey and Red to show the difference.

https://plus.google.com/photos/108119382432572544511/album/6610200857449161505/6610200858900621154?authkey=CLi5r86GuNnipQE&sqid=118252788430477557487&ssid=3f32a6e1-bd61-434b-9cbc-891de3d7f98b (https://plus.google.com/photos/108119382432572544511/album/6610200857449161505/6610200858900621154?authkey=CLi5r86GuNnipQE&sqid=118252788430477557487&ssid=3f32a6e1-bd61-434b-9cbc-891de3d7f98b)

I was invited to join Total OS Today on a live chat and was told there was no volume.  I brought up Pulse Audio and saw no levels.  It took me a while to figure it out but I had recently been playing around with the different Peppermint themes.  I know sometimes some themes just don't work right.  Sure enough, when I changed back to Red I was able to see levels.  Not a big thing but I thought I would let you know.
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 Released .. go get it :)
Post by: PCNetSpec on October 09, 2018, 03:20:53 am
I'll see if I can fix it for the respin Steve .. I have a feeling the volume is probably displaying, it's just displaying the same colour as the background.