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Support => Networking => Topic started by: cavy on October 03, 2017, 07:38:52 pm

Title: Remote login
Post by: cavy on October 03, 2017, 07:38:52 pm
This is an old chestnut, I use Gnome Boxes for my virtual machines. Simple and easy. It also provide remote login. Have not got beyond first base.   :(   

Previously followed this guide: https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-boxes/stable/connect.html.en    ;) I love brevity, but not for brevity sake  ???

I seem to be failing to understand the basics or missing setting something up (secure network..?), so it can communicate with the other computer and login to it.     ;)

A step by step guide for idiots, would be great  :)
Title: Re: Remote login
Post by: PCNetSpec on October 04, 2017, 11:22:13 am
Are you running say vino on the Guest OS ?
Title: Re: Remote login
Post by: cavy on October 04, 2017, 06:49:08 pm
Are you running say vino on the Guest OS ?

No, good shout m8, I've googled vino and found this tutorial: http://xmodulo.com/how-to-set-up-vnc-server-on-linux.html   :D

I will install vino on donor (test) machine tomorrow and see what happens. Is it prudent to install vino on both machines...?   ;)

Title: Re: Remote login
Post by: PCNetSpec on October 04, 2017, 07:18:03 pm
I think you just need to install vino in the Guest OS (in the VM), then once it's set up just follow the instructions in your first link, eg.:-
vnc://192.168.122.1:5900
where 192168.1.22 is the IP of the Guests network connection.

But it's all guesswork on my part, I've never actually done it.
Title: Re: Remote login
Post by: cavy on October 05, 2017, 08:40:54 am
Installed vino on the target machine, followed the preference settings and enabled a strong password, for password only, access.

Set up a Gnome-box remote account to access vnc://192.168.122.1:5900 on the target machine. Didn't connect, only got the revolving cursor, then G-B shutdown.   ::)

Install vino on host machine, and found it to be at latest up to date version.

Further googling suggests SPLICE and other articles suggest vnc is not secure and to use SSH. Found this mentioned more than once.   ;)

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The reason everyone is suggestiong ssh is that VNC servers are insecure and one of the most common cracks. So use ssh -X or FreeNX. FreeNX is by far the fastest and most secure vnc server (IMO). bodhi.zazen Jun 18 '14 at 20:05

It would be nice to be able to make this app (Gnome-Boxes) work as it was suppose to, for VM I find it an excellent tool.   ;)

I do NOT know a thing about FreeNX. SSH tutorial https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-ssh-to-connect-to-a-remote-server-in-ubuntu if I go this path will take some digesting. But better in the long term for my continued education in Linux.   :-\

Team Viewer works, tried it with the FREE version, but it kept doing a M$ on me, suggesting upgrade to paid services as it was more secure with enhanced features, but as it is popular with windies users, and had maybe unfounded security issues over this.

 :D


Title: Re: Remote login
Post by: murraymint on October 05, 2017, 11:51:08 am
NX is the protocol developed/used by NoMachine. That's worth a try if you want something that just works easily. I don't know how it'll interact with Gnome boxes, that's something I've never tried.
Title: Re: Remote login
Post by: cavy on October 05, 2017, 12:50:49 pm
NX is the protocol developed/used by NoMachine. That's worth a try if you want something that just works easily. I don't know how it'll interact with Gnome boxes, that's something I've never tried.

Cheers, m8   :D

FreeNX has not been maintained for several years, Trusty being the last PPA install. This site: https://www.vultr.com/docs/setup-nomachine-nx-on-ubuntu  suggests using the proprietary code. Looks like SSH-X or TeamViewer.   :-\
Title: Re: Remote login
Post by: PCNetSpec on October 05, 2017, 02:32:47 pm
Download it directly from NoMachine
https://www.nomachine.com/download/linux&id=1
(just get the 64 or 32bit .DEB .. and double-click it to install)
Title: Re: Remote login
Post by: cavy on October 05, 2017, 06:50:10 pm
Download it directly from NoMachine
https://www.nomachine.com/download/linux&id=1
(just get the 64 or 32bit .DEB .. and double-click it to install)

Err.....Okay m8, I'll give it a whirl tomorrow, cheers.  :D