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Title: PM8 ideas?
Post by: acer on September 23, 2016, 11:28:46 am
Hi,

Just had a thought regarding the next Peppermint distro:

Can Conky be integrated into the distro so that it is shown on the desktop by default or just on the Live session or both?

Reason I ask is, we were all newbies to linux at some point and one of the things I found whilst learning my way around
on a USB Live session or the installed system, was the terminal commands.

What if basic terminal commands (chosen by you guys) were integrated into conky that readily showed up on your desktop.
Instead of the conky defaults or alongside some of the defaults in conky.

They don't do anything but, they are a visual display of what you want to do via the terminal and they are there all the time unless
the end-user decides to alter or remove.

i.e. inxi -Fz command to display system information

I'm sure a pre-configured conky may be beneficial, as well as not having to install conky post system installation.
There seems to be a growing trend in using this application. Why not help us to help newbies.
cheers
Title: Re: PM8 idea
Post by: PCNetSpec on September 23, 2016, 12:43:14 pm
I'm sure a pre-configured conky may be beneficial, as well as not having to install conky post system installation.
There seems to be a growing trend in using this application. Why not help us to help newbies.
cheers

Sorry but his is highly unlikely to happen as it doesn't fit our ethos .. Peppermint is a minimalist distro by nature, we go to great lengths trying not to make "application" choices for the user, and don't locally install anything unless it serves a clear and necessary function for EVERYONE .. so no locally installed office suite, no dockbars, no GIMP, and no conky, these are all USER CHOICES.

If there's one thing that annoys me about most distros it's that they throw in everything including the kitchen sink .. and I have to spend HOURS removing the stuff I didn't want to begin with (including all the dependencies) .. this is Peppermints raison d'Ítre, not the "cloud" as most people seem to think .. ICE and the cloud are just means to that end (they allow us to have a fully functional distro without locally installed apps out of the box) ;)
Title: Re: PM8 idea
Post by: scifidude79 on September 23, 2016, 12:53:00 pm
Gotta go with PCNetSpec on this.  The main thing that has always attracted me to this distro is that minimalistic approach.   I honestly don't give a damn about Ice or its ability to create SSBs.  What keeps me coming back version after version is that I start off with little of what I call post installation cleanup.  This is where I go into the terminal or Synaptic and start removing stuff I don't use.  (Ice even gets axed on my system)  In some distros, I have to remove a whole lot of software, but not here.  I personally don't use or see any use for Conky.  It was a big thing back in the early days and I tried it with Peppermint One.  It did nothing for me.  So, for me, adding it by default would add to my post installation cleanup, just as removing GIMP would for non artists.  And, even though I do use GIMP, I wouldn't want it preinstalled either simply because I know other users may not want it.
Title: Re: PM8 idea
Post by: acer on September 23, 2016, 12:57:14 pm
Ok 100% with you there with regards to removing pre-installed stuff within distros.
Been there myself over the years, and come to think of it, that ethos is what attracted me to Peppermint in the first place.

Just a suggestion/ thought.  :)
Title: Re: PM8 idea
Post by: PCNetSpec on September 23, 2016, 01:19:49 pm
Believe me the team have discussed these things before (including conky), but our ethos makes these 'discussions' MUCH easier to resolve .. we simply have one question that needs answering

Does it fulfil a necessary function (or one nearly everyone would consider necessary) ?

If not, it's for the user to decide whether to add it or not.

It also neatly sidesteps team decisions/arguments such as "which is better LibreOffice or OpenOfficec ?"

Sticking to our ethos makes these decisions VERY easy, by removing opinion (often mine) from the equation and leaving it in the users hands (where it belongs).
Title: Re: PM8 idea
Post by: zebedeeboss on September 23, 2016, 03:13:00 pm
But please Do not stop coming up with suggestions... it's impossible for one person or even one Team to think of everything.

It's what makes this Forum so good in my opinion and one of the main reasons I stayed around.

Ubuntu Mate works - Voyager xfce works, Manjaro xfce works (well) Mint works - but none have forums as good as Peppermint  :)

Regards Zeb...
Title: Re: PM8 idea
Post by: budman7 on September 23, 2016, 04:42:54 pm
The one thing I would suggest, and that only for the Live version would be a welcome box that has some useful commands in it.
So many people get started in Linux and have no idea of the very basics.Maybe even a link to linux journey(one of the tutorials here)
would be great.
I have found that tutorial very enlightening.
Title: Re: PM8 idea
Post by: PCNetSpec on September 23, 2016, 06:04:46 pm
A welcome screen is something we're looking at .. what we're going to put on it is still up for discussion at some point so sure .. gimme your ideas :)

As zebedeeboss suggests, ideas are ALWAYS welcome, even if they are eventually discarded .. so 'keep em comin' :)



As for the welcome screen mentioning CLI commands I'm not sure that's a good idea .. a lot of Windows users are scared off by claims they've seen that Linux REQUIRES you know the CLI .. it doesn't.

Chucking commands on their face at first run (or worse pre-install) may send the wrong message .. though I suppose we could have something like an "if you want to learn more, check out these links" kind of thing (?)

Just thinking out loud here....
Title: Re: PM8 ideas?
Post by: acer on October 15, 2016, 06:13:52 am
Is it possible to embed a link within ICE to Timeshift in the next distro?
or
Include Timeshift within the next distro? (in the repos size= 1mb, not sure about dependancies)

I know the minimalist ethos of peppermint forbids bloatware LOL but, this app/program is potentially another essential in the toolkit.
This also swings it for the non-techies in my book, knowing that if you bork it, you can restore it without too much distress  ;)

GNULINUX has submitted a great tutorial that is invaluable for the spectrum of peppermint users to use now.
https://forum.peppermintos.com/index.php/topic,3908.0.html (https://forum.peppermintos.com/index.php/topic,3908.0.html)

regards
Acer
Title: Re: PM8 ideas?
Post by: PCNetSpec on October 16, 2016, 12:36:55 pm
Theoretically running a timeshift backup on a small SSD could fill the disk and lock up the system .. so again I'd call this a "user discretion" app.

And when will the Timeshift author get around to letting you CHOOSE where the backup gets saved at the directory level .. I have a large NAS but there's no (easy) way to have Timeshift use it, fine with an external HDD but not a mounted NAS ::)

Some kind of compression to save space and preserve symlinks on external HDD's with a filesystem that doesn't support them wouldn't go amiss either.
Title: Re: PM8 idea
Post by: spence on October 20, 2016, 03:17:41 pm
As for the welcome screen mentioning CLI commands I'm not sure that's a good idea .. a lot of Windows users are scared off by claims they've seen that Linux REQUIRES you know the CLI .. it doesn't.

A sentence or two that clarifies and mentions what you wrote above; while files are being installed would have reassured me on my first go 'round... and might be helpful for first time linux folks who are playing with peppermintOS LiveCDs or LiveUSBs...  
Title: Re: PM8 ideas?
Post by: Pikolo on October 21, 2016, 01:34:33 pm
Assuming this is a general PM8 suggestions topic(if you prefer sticking to one issue per post, I can separate it), the biggest problem for me so far has been HDMI support.

You have to separately connect the display(and it struggles when the resolutions don't match) and the audio. It would be nice to be able to either connect to all outputs provided by the HDMI cable. The worst thing is that PM drops the settings the moment someone touches the HDMI cable and a slight disconnect occurs.
My proposal, if possible, is to make it work like bluetooth connections, showing a popup asking what you want it to do. After all, if you're plugging something into your machine, you'll probably want to use it

The popup should probably have 2 options:
1) Video connection
a) clone
b) expand screen
c) PC only
d) external display only

2) Resolution & placement (if both were selected in part 1)
A visual representation, showing screens to scale would be really appreciated, but it's not a prority

3) Audio connection
a) external device only
b) pc only
c) both

If this is covered by a program you don't wish to include in PM, that kindly tell me it's name and include it in the recommended list.
Title: Re: PM8 ideas?
Post by: emegra on November 24, 2016, 01:19:10 pm
Ahoy Shipmates

This is something I've never given any thought to before because although I don't have the best eyesight in the world and slowly deteriorating I can still see a computer screen clearly with the aid of glasses, but not everyone is so fortunate.

A few days ago I was given a laptop by an elderly neighbour whose eyesight is severely bad, she asked if I can make it so she can see the screen more clearly and specifically asked if there was any audible assistance to help her navigate the laptop 

What I've discovered is that Peppermint offers no help for partially sighted people at all and I think it would be a good idea to rectify that in PM8, I understand Peppermint is a minimalist distro and we don't make choices for our users but I would consider this basic functionality if not Orca at least a decent easy to use and configure screen magnifier such as they have in Mint and other distros


Graeme
Title: Re: PM8 ideas?
Post by: PCNetSpec on November 24, 2016, 04:55:04 pm
I guess we could have a high contrast theme and larger cursor theme available, but what's wrong with the screen magnifier we already have (Alt+Scrollwheel) ?

Other than that we'd have to consider either kmag (with all its KDE dependencies) or the screen magnifier from Compiz (with all the weight that entails .. if I'm correct this is what Mint/Ubuntu/etc. use)
Title: Re: PM8 ideas?
Post by: GNULINUX on November 25, 2016, 02:21:57 pm
^ Maybe we could put this together in a separate "Peppermint pack"?

Seems like a good idea to have something like that!  ;)
Title: Re: PM8 ideas?
Post by: PCNetSpec on November 25, 2016, 03:43:05 pm
Yeah, draw my attetinon back to this topic after the respin is released and we'll try to figure something out :)
Title: Re: PM8 ideas?
Post by: GNULINUX on November 25, 2016, 03:57:51 pm
^ OK, going to put it in my special list... "How to keep PCNetSpec (https://forum.peppermintos.com/index.php?action=profile;u=4) busy!"  ;)
Title: Re: PM8 ideas?
Post by: PCNetSpec on November 25, 2016, 03:59:49 pm
LOL :))
Title: Re: PM8 ideas?
Post by: emegra on November 25, 2016, 04:16:32 pm
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I guess we could have a high contrast theme and larger cursor theme available, but what's wrong with the screen magnifier we already have (Alt+Scrollwheel) ?

When I mentioned magnification I was thinking more of a lens but the option of a high contrast theme and large cursor would be a great idea

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Other than that we'd have to consider either kmag (with all its KDE dependencies) or the screen magnifier from Compiz (with all the weight that entails .. if I'm correct this is what Mint/Ubuntu/etc. use)

kmag downloads a ton of dependencies so I don't think we want to go down that route and Compiz is heavy and I think can bring a whole lot of other complications with it, xzoom caused weird behaviour  when I tried it and virtual magnifying glass http://magnifier.sourceforge.net/ (http://magnifier.sourceforge.net/) just wouldn't install for me but that could have been something I was doing wrong.

What I was thinking was something like a Universal Access section in the Peppermint Control Panel with setting similar to what they have in Mint




Graeme
Title: Re: PM8 ideas?
Post by: Slim.Fatz on November 26, 2016, 04:03:04 am
^ Maybe we could put this together in a separate "Peppermint pack"?

Seems like a good idea to have something like that!  ;)
Hi GNULINUX,

Now that is a super idea! It keeps Peppermint light and remains true to to our basic philosophy! After all, there is no need to create an alternate Knoppix distro -- although I have lost track of Knoppix, as I recall the original Knoppix had all sorts of (at the time) cutting edge apps for impaired users (and particularly the visually impaired).

Regards,

-- Slim
Title: Re: PM8 ideas?
Post by: travis82 on November 30, 2016, 04:55:14 am
Dear Mark
Modules of Peppermint Settings Panel are not navigable via keyboard. Although I can launch them individually through Whisker Menu, but it would be nice if they be able to select using tab or navigation keys in PSP too. IS it possible to add this feature to PM8?

Sorry for my english 
Title: Re: PM8 ideas?
Post by: OhThatGuy on December 05, 2016, 04:39:40 pm
Hi All,

Great Distro!! I have been really enjoying it. I have a few ideas. Since the xfce4-panel is now default, I installed the xfce4-mailwatcher panel plugin (it would be great if this was included by default). This plugin provides notifications of when I have new mail. It also allows me to open my SSB Gmail webapp on click. For example, I have mailwatch to look at my gmail acount and open the webapp on click. the command that is run is send-notify to alert me of new messages.That being said ...

I would loved to see a few new "watcher" panel items just like mailwatch, but does the following:

1. xfce4-calendarwatch - watches google calendar and updates icon new event notification is executed. The panel icon opens a program on click and a command can be run when calendar notification is present.

2. xfce4-rsswatch - watches an rss feed for updates and updates the panel icon when a new article is present. The panel icon opens a program on click and a command can be run when a new rss article is present.

3. xfce4-hangoutwatch, xfce4-jitsiwatch, and/or xfce4-messengerwatch - watches google hangouts  and updates icon when a new message is received. The panel icon opens a program on click and a command can be run when a new message is present. (if this could support various IM programs that would be great too ... if not one for yahoo messenger and jitsi, etc would be awesome).

4. xfce4-socialwatch - watches social media accounts (google+, facebook, twitter, etc) and updates icon when a new message is received. The panel icon opens a program on click and a command can be run when a new message is present.

I am sure you get the idea. The could better incorporate "netbook-like" webapp features into the xfce panel. IMHO, these plugins fit perfectly in the ethos of Peppermint. Even if these plugins were not included by default, but available in repos ... they would still make a great addition to the distro.

Thanks!
Title: Re: PM8 ideas?
Post by: PCNetSpec on December 05, 2016, 04:57:15 pm
Hi OhThatGuy, and thanks for the suggestions...

2 problems though .. we currently have to concentrate our limited resources on stuff that will be included in Peppermint "by default", and our ethos (in a nutshell) is that NOTHING gets into Peppermint unless it can be shown to serve a function that would be of use to pretty much everyone (specially where it would consume system resources, which any kind of "watcher" would).

We decided long ago that Peppermint wouldn't come with pre-installed "applications"of OUR choice, anything of that sort is a USER specific decision .. a lot of our users are here specifically because they hate haveing to "remove" unwanted pre-installed stuff, removal always being harder that adding .. one man's "necessary app' is another man's bloat, so we don't make those decisions for our users if it's possible to avoid them, application choice is very user specific so should be left to them.

[EDIT]

It's a common misconception (specially by the press) that Peppermint is "web centric", that's not really what we're aiming for .. what we are trying to be is a MINIMALIST distro (yet fully functional out of the box via ICE and web apps) that hands choice to the USER .. YOU decide what you want Peppermint to  be, web-centric, local app centric, or any mix of the two YOU like :)

That ethos is one of the things that drew me to Peppermint in the first place .. this ethos has stood us in good stead and very effectively makes software choices really easy for the development team, when making these types of decision we live by "show it'd be useful to EVERYONE or it's a user choice and doesn't get in by default" :)
Title: Re: PM8 ideas?
Post by: OhThatGuy on December 05, 2016, 05:39:14 pm
Well in theory ... since they are panel plugins, they can be included by default, but just not activated. Just like the Applications Menu or the Directory Menu plugins are currently handled in Peppermint. That way they are there by default but not using system resources until the user chooses to activate the ones (and only the ones they choose) and use them in the panel. This is exactly how Xfce handles it. That way it is a win-win.
Title: Re: PM8 ideas?
Post by: PCNetSpec on December 05, 2016, 06:47:19 pm
Okay, let me rephrase that...

Unless they already exist (?) .. we currently have to concentrate our limited resources on stuff that will be included [and enabled] in Peppermint "by default".

Simply a matter of having to prioritise I'm afraid ;)

If I get time I'll look into it, but no promises.....
Title: Re: PM8 ideas?
Post by: OhThatGuy on December 06, 2016, 08:58:45 pm
If I get time I'll look into it, but no promises.....

Thanks for discussing my suggestion and Thanks for looking into it. If these watcher applications get added, I am sure they will be well received.
Title: Re: PM8 ideas?
Post by: Pikolo on December 30, 2016, 05:00:11 pm
I suggest replacing the system monitor PM comes with by default(the X-app version of the LXDE system monitor) with gnome-system-monitor. It's far more modern & functional. On top of that, it only takes a whooping 1,2 MB disc space!
The main functionality it adds is a network transfer graph.
 I might be unique in that regard, but I often use unstable network connections, and I need a way to check if the website is not loading because it's bloated, or because my transfer is dead again.
Title: Re: PM8 ideas?
Post by: PCNetSpec on December 30, 2016, 08:39:51 pm
When you say "system monitor", do you mean the task manager (lxtask) ?
Title: Re: PM8 ideas?
Post by: Pikolo on January 01, 2017, 12:55:53 pm
Yes. System monitor, task monitor, htop, top. Many names, same thing
I deleted lxtask after finding a useful replacement and couldn't remember it's name.
Title: Re: PM8 ideas?
Post by: travis82 on January 06, 2017, 06:05:41 am
Yes. System monitor, task monitor, htop, top. Many names, same thing
I deleted lxtask after finding a useful replacement and couldn't remember it's name.

Respectfully, my vote goes for lxtask. Simple, lightweight and efficient.
Title: Re: PM8 ideas?
Post by: PCNetSpec on January 07, 2017, 01:38:54 pm
I tend to agree with travis82, lxtask is minimal but functional .. if users want something heavier (even if only a bit) they can install whatever they choose.

The Peppermint ethos dictates we don't make software choices for our users beyond what is necessary .. in fact I'd be more inclined to do away with a task manager altogether if I didn't consider it pretty necessary for the vast majority.

A few kilobytes may not sound like much, but if we did that with ALL packages.....

That said, show me a function of another task manager that the vast majority of users would consider "necessary" and I'll certainly consider it .. but you'll have to tell me the exact name of the package, "system monitor" doesn't tell me much ;)
Title: Re: PM8 ideas?
Post by: Pikolo on January 07, 2017, 06:30:09 pm
I specifically mentioned gnome-system-monitor in my first post, and there is a package with that name in the repositories.
(https://i.imgsafe.org/1765fc0fed.png)

The part I find necessary is the network history graph. As far as I'm aware, lxtask has nothing like it. I've spent about 2 days looking for a way to monitor my transfer after first installing Peppermint (my first GNU/Linux distro ever actually).
First I looked for something inside XFCE, because I didn't want to pull dependencies(I probably had too much reading on KDE/Gnome incompatibility for my minuscule level of Linux experience). I accidentally discovered that Cinnamon/Unity/Gnome/XFCE/LXDE are built using GTK and quite cross compatible, and settled on gnome-system-monitor.

The application I wanted to substitute was Windows Task Manager, in it's Windows 8 incarnation: (https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse4.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.M59b7c393615c9fc7a25dc9aa2cf58fb4o0%26pid%3D15.1&f=1)
Title: Re: PM8 ideas?
Post by: PCNetSpec on January 07, 2017, 06:54:01 pm
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I specifically mentioned gnome-task-monitor in my first post

Sorry I missed that :-[

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The part I find necessary is the network history graph.

Yep, I can see the network graphing might be useful to a limited few .. but as I said our ethos doesn't generally allow us to load everyone with stuff only a few will use .. if on the other hand it's MORE functional and the same weight (give or take) I might be convinced, so I'll take a look.

I have a funny feeling though that I looked at gnome-system-monitor previously (as I did xfce4-taskmanager) and ruled it out .. but I can't for the life of me remember why :-\

Glad you found what you needed though :)
Title: Re: PM8 ideas?
Post by: harishpathangay on February 06, 2017, 06:06:12 am
Will PM8 be a LTS Release? or Did I misunderstood about LTS releases?
Will I be able to upgrade from PM7 to PM8 without re-install?

thanks,
harish pathangay
Title: Re: PM8 ideas?
Post by: Pikolo on February 18, 2017, 09:27:08 am
PM8 will be an LTS release, albeit a shorter-longterm one ;)
PM is built on Ubuntu LTS, specifically PM7 and PM8 is/will be built on Ubuntu 16.04. They will reach EndOfLife simultaneously in 2021.

I don't know if you'll be able to upgrade between them without reinstalling(ask PCNetSpec, it's up to him), but any upgrade would be minor and to PM specific packages only, as the rest of the OS is updated from the same Ubuntu Xenial repositories
Title: Re: PM8 ideas?
Post by: mracz on February 25, 2017, 04:24:05 am
Some laptop users use their machine at home and in the office or at a favorite coffee shop that makes proxy settings relevant. At the moment I miss this feature in P7. Maybe I am wrong but you need to set environment, set apt and reboot (or logout at least) to have new proxy settings work. I do not know how other products solve this but I remember an old application in Windows XP that you could have different locations set and define proxy, default printer even default home page  in your default browser for each location.

I understand that this is not much a Peppermint issue, not even trivial. Just for the record, an application for automatic proxy setting application (e.g. depending on your IP address) might be useful for Peppermint users on the move.
Title: Re: PM8 ideas?
Post by: Fritz74 on February 25, 2017, 05:56:35 am
Just a wish an an idea: It would be great to make the font rendering out of the box as good as possible and include some high quality fonts (if the licensing makes that possible). After all, text is what we are looking at most of the time.

The icons too: It would be great to have a nice icon set right after the installation. Maybe faenza?
http://tiheum.deviantart.com/art/Faenza-Icons-173323228

I didn't really like the default background and the plymouth background in Peppermint 7. Maybe it would be possible to use something lighter in complementary colors. Something that includes a blue sky. ;)
Title: Re: PM8 ideas?
Post by: Peter on March 18, 2017, 12:51:53 pm
Hi, guys.
What about LXDE-components in PM8?
Will they be replaced by LXQt ones?
Title: Re: PM8 ideas?
Post by: PCNetSpec on March 18, 2017, 02:00:48 pm
There's really very few LXDE components left in Peppermint, that said AFAIK LXDE is not about to disappear any time soon .. so the plan is NO ;)
Title: Re: PM8 ideas?
Post by: DARKBOW923 on April 19, 2017, 05:39:24 pm
There's really very few LXDE components left in Peppermint, that said AFAIK LXDE is not about to disappear any time soon .. so the plan is NO ;)
I think we can make the tottaly spanish (and the rest of languages) traduction of all peppermint 8.... )i can help traducting but no programming  :P :P :P i thinked this because not tottaly but are very apps, menus and similar on peppermint who don't have a launguage traduction..
Bye!
Title: Re: PM8 ideas?
Post by: Pikolo on May 05, 2017, 06:30:43 pm
This might be too hard to implement, but would definitely be useful:

introducing a per application notification cooldown

Doing it for the XFCE power manager would be enough. The current situation on my laptop, is as follows:
If I turn notifications off. I get no warning when my laptop is about to die due to being out of power.
If I turn notifications on. I get about 2 hours of "Fully charged"/"Charging" notifications in row when my laptop is charging the last few %.
I get no notifications on full screen apps(VLC watching a movie for example).

I'm proposing the cooldown, because the stream of "Charging"/"Not charging" notifications makes me want to turn them off... and when I do that, I forget to turn them on afterwards :-\
Title: Re: PM8 ideas?
Post by: PCNetSpec on May 05, 2017, 08:18:24 pm
There is an Xfce update that adds this to the notifications settings:
https://simon.shimmerproject.org/2016/09/05/preview-per-application-settings-and-do-not-disturb-mode-in-xfce4-notifyd/

I've successfully compiled it in Peppermint 7 and it works well .. problem is, there's no way to get it to build without adding some dependencies not available in 16.04, so there's no way to get it to build as a package on launchpad for xenial and I don;'t want to add zesty packages to Peppermint 8 .. this means the only way I could get it into Peppermint 8 would be to manually add the pre-compiled binaries to the Peppermint 8 ISO image, something I'm not keen to do as people like access to the package source code.

I may have another go at seeing if it can be modified to work with existing dependencies, but I doubt it.

I could possibly build an "off repo" standalone package for you though after PM8 is released and give you a link .. or help you to compile/install it.
Title: Re: PM8 ideas?
Post by: scifidude79 on May 06, 2017, 09:48:22 am
With long term support for five years, it would be nice if Ubuntu would keep up with newer versions of a bit more of their software than they do.  Just saying.  This seems like something that would benefit XFCE users in a lot of Ubuntu-based distros, but there's the wait until next year for it to hit an Canonical repository for a stable release.  ::)
Title: Re: PM8 ideas?
Post by: Peter on May 18, 2017, 12:34:48 pm
Well, what about Nemo in PM8?
There is a version without cinnamon's dependencies.
Will it be included in realease?
Title: Re: PM8 ideas?
Post by: PCNetSpec on May 18, 2017, 02:50:32 pm
Peppermint has had Nemo as the default file manager since Peppermint 6 .. there are no plans to change that ;)
Title: Re: PM8 ideas?
Post by: Peter on May 19, 2017, 09:27:26 am
Will it be this version?

https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/ubuntu/nemo

"no Cinnamon dependencies except cinnamon-translations", as written there.
Title: Re: PM8 ideas?
Post by: PCNetSpec on May 19, 2017, 09:56:05 am
No .. 2.8.7 (as found in that PPA) was the version we had in Peppermint 7, Peppermint 8 will have a more recent version :)
Title: Re: PM8 ideas?
Post by: mracz on June 03, 2017, 04:11:32 am
Some laptop users use their machine at home and in the office or at a favorite coffee shop that makes proxy settings relevant. At the moment I miss this feature in P7. Maybe I am wrong but you need to set environment, set apt and reboot (or logout at least) to have new proxy settings work. I do not know how other products solve this but I remember an old application in Windows XP that you could have different locations set and define proxy, default printer even default home page  in your default browser for each location.

I understand that this is not much a Peppermint issue, not even trivial. Just for the record, an application for automatic proxy setting application (e.g. depending on your IP address) might be useful for Peppermint users on the move.

This is just to say thank you for implementing network proxy settings in PM8. Will give a try for running proxy.pac on my laptop soon.