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Title: Help choosing a secondary distro for a pc with slow internet? [SOLVED]
Post by: Elemec on June 05, 2016, 03:43:37 pm
So, i've been using linux for sometime (though, i still think i should stay away from arch and stuff like that, besides, this pc is not just for me otherwise i would take all my time tinkering stuff) and i've got to say PeppermintOS (although i didn't use it much, mostly due to testing other distros along with it) is a really good distro, but it seems to lack some use  for pcs with either total lack, or very slow internet (A.k.a can only really download some programs and update, but that is about it) and i've been looking so, for an alternative to PeppermintOS.

Prefference is a distro that has 32 bit support, uses lxde (I've been finding it better than xfce and mate), can be downloaded from a torrent (It for some reason is quicker than me doing a normal download), is as friendly, or at least a bit friendly regards codecs, support and etc, and comes with a decent ammount of stock applications (Like gimp, libreoffice), and aren't those : Lubuntu (though Peppermint is based on Lubuntu, it just seems a bit unfriendly regarding starting software for it's appearence.) and LXLE (Too big, no torrent for 32bit vers, also a bit too much friendliness regarding software)

TL;DR : A distro that isn't Lubuntu, LXLE, that supports 32bit, uses lxde, is friendly regarding stock installation working out-of-the-box and can be downloaded from a torrent, not cloud-based?

This has been solved, Peppermint os is the way to go. A little edited for my liking, but still! Hope this thread helps someone old/new to linux that was looking into a distro, great OB/FB help here.  ;D
Title: Re: Help choosing a secondary distro for a pc with slow internet?
Post by: Capivara on June 08, 2016, 02:39:38 pm
What about Linux Mint? Full-featured out of the box, and there is a torrent download.
Title: Re: Help choosing a secondary distro for a pc with slow internet?
Post by: zebedeeboss on June 08, 2016, 03:06:41 pm
 Hi
you could also look at sparky linux which has a 32b torrent hosted by linux tracker - SparkyLinux is a lightweight & fast Debian testing based Live Linux distribution featuring customized LXDE desktop.
More details at http://sparkylinux.org
but I really don't get why Peppermint wont do ?
Regards Zeb...
Title: Re: Help choosing a secondary distro for a pc with slow internet?
Post by: murraymint on June 08, 2016, 03:11:51 pm
I think the OP means the more programs are pre-installed in the torrent ISO, the less downloading he'll have to do later. Doesn't seem to me that it makes much difference either way though and it obviously depends which programs you want to have installed.

Title: Re: Help choosing a secondary distro for a pc with slow internet?
Post by: PCNetSpec on June 08, 2016, 03:53:34 pm
Or maybe you'd like to try fix the slow internet in Peppermint ? .. because no matter which distro you choose the drivers are likely to be the same.
Title: Re: Help choosing a secondary distro for a pc with slow internet?
Post by: AndyInMokum on June 08, 2016, 04:03:07 pm
Hi Elemec, you could try Robolinux: http://www.robolinux.org/ (http://www.robolinux.org/), or Black Lab Linux: http://www.blacklablinux.org/ (http://www.blacklablinux.org/).  I still think Peppermint is a better choice because you get to choose and install what you want.  Someone else isn't making the choices for you.  You can also check out DistroWatch: DistroWatch.com (https://www.distrowatch.com/) - good luck  ;).
Title: Re: Help choosing a secondary distro for a pc with slow internet?
Post by: PCNetSpec on June 08, 2016, 04:30:05 pm
I agree with Andy .. if minimal downloading is the goal, unless you can find a distro with *exactly* what you want and nothing you dont, Peppermint is going to allow you to have a core system then add ONLY what you want.

It doesn't matter if you find a distro with libreoffice preinstalled or install it in Peppermint .. you still had to download it either way.

That said, happy hunting for your ideal distro :)
Title: Re: Help choosing a secondary distro for a pc with slow internet?
Post by: Elemec on June 08, 2016, 06:37:38 pm
It's more of a... "Lazy man's" Distro, the internet is slow because it simply is not fast, it would be a bit slow, if things go wrong i'll stick with Peppermint and try to install the least programs i can, but still the ones needed for stuff.
This is because i have two pcs needing it, one is my personal one, that i will have full time to install and tinker (To an extent, since this is shared) the other i'll install once and never see the person again, and yeah, this is pretty much for a backup distro, but seeing the way things are going, i may just stick with Peppermint and do a lxde+openbox-composition build.

I was originally considering going full debian minimal with linuxbbq at first, but i noticed it looked rather difficult AND it's forums appeared to not really be a nice place to hang out for help (No offense to them or anything, is just that the ammount of swears i saw there...)

I'll keep trying distros on my free time until i come to conclusion, going to put a [SOLVED] once i find it, and do a small summary of how it went!
Thanks for all replies!
Title: Re: Help choosing a secondary distro for a pc with slow internet?
Post by: AndyInMokum on June 08, 2016, 08:05:40 pm
Hi Elemec, well were here to help you out when you need it  ;).  Yeah the boys over in bbq land can be a little graphic  ;D.  Debian is a nice disto though - super dependable and stable.  My backup distro is SparkyLinux Xfce.  That's based on Debian's Testing branch.  It's a rock solid distro from Poland

Once Peppermint is set to the way you like it,  It's the ultimate lazy man's distro.  You just boot it up and use it.   Do the updates as and when they show up.  That's it.  You then come and hang out here with the rest of us.  If you need help with the LXDE - Openbox build, our Trusted User: Slim-Fatz is an expert in making things featherweight ;).
Title: Re: Help choosing a secondary distro for a pc with slow internet?
Post by: Elemec on June 09, 2016, 06:44:14 pm
It seems peppermintos doesn't like VM much, a bunch of U's with little things like '` popped up and it never booted to live desktop.
Also, the "can't find/boot perfect msr" or something error that i never understood what to do about.
Though, out of the distros i heard and tested, Peppermint is the best looking one, and surprisingly lighter than ubuntu even with composition.
I checked MD5 of that peppermint iso, but i don't know why it won't boot on VM
Title: Re: Help choosing a secondary distro for a pc with slow internet?
Post by: PCNetSpec on June 09, 2016, 08:26:43 pm
I've seen the screen full of U's before in Virtualbox and even on some hardware .. but it's always booted past them after a short while :-\

Cant say I've ever seen "can't find/boot perfect msr" before though .. which virtualisation software are you using, and on what host OS ?
Title: Re: Help choosing a secondary distro for a pc with slow internet?
Post by: Elemec on June 09, 2016, 08:53:20 pm
Ok, i checked, actually it's "failed-to-access-perfctr-msr" And seems to be something to do with CPU (Specially on VM) not having support for performance counters, so not really anything bad.
The screen of U's just froze for me, though.
Virtual Box, i'm using Lubuntu.
Title: Re: Help choosing a secondary distro for a pc with slow internet?
Post by: PCNetSpec on June 09, 2016, 10:33:34 pm
How did you install virtualbox  in Lubnuts ?
Title: Re: Help choosing a secondary distro for a pc with slow internet?
Post by: Elemec on June 10, 2016, 04:57:23 pm
I did a
sudo apt-get install virtualbox
Title: Re: Help choosing a secondary distro for a pc with slow internet?
Post by: PCNetSpec on June 10, 2016, 05:21:22 pm
Personally I've always installed it via their repository

So unintstall the version from the Ubuntu repo
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sudo apt-get remove --purge virtualbox
then add the virtaulbox repo by opening your sources.list for editing
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sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
and add this new line at the bottom
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deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian trusty contrib
SAVE the file and exit gedit

Now add the repo keys
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wget -q https://www.virtualbox.org/download/oracle_vbox_2016.asc -O- | sudo apt-key add -
then
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wget -q https://www.virtualbox.org/download/oracle_vbox.asc -O- | sudo apt-key add -
then update your package cache
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sudo apt-get update
then make sure you have build-essential and dkms installed:
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sudo apt-get install build-essential dkms
then install virtualbox-5.0
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sudo apt-get install virtualbox-5.0
Title: Re: Help choosing a secondary distro for a pc with slow internet?
Post by: Elemec on June 10, 2016, 06:37:38 pm
Did it, but virtualbox-5.0 apparently requires a dependency i can't install (Terminal said so, it exists but is not installable for some reason)
In a side note, i noticed every time i use sudo a thing like
sudo : was not possible to resolve machine elemeclxde (Current name i put on this Lubuntu-cp)
Title: Re: Help choosing a secondary distro for a pc with slow internet?
Post by: PCNetSpec on June 10, 2016, 07:01:24 pm
What was the exact error message ?



RE: that error message, have you at any time changed the PC's hostname ?
Title: Re: Help choosing a secondary distro for a pc with slow internet?
Post by: Elemec on June 13, 2016, 02:03:01 pm
Okay, couldn't install the 5.0 one, but after doing the process and installing the normal virtual box (The same way i did before except with the processes you said there before installing it again) And now i got able to have peppermintos sinstalled here, hopefully it will work good ;D i'll keep testing em once i have time.
Title: Re: Help choosing a secondary distro for a pc with slow internet?
Post by: Elemec on June 14, 2016, 05:35:43 pm
Alright so far, i'm seeing 2 possibilities.
BunsenLabs
Peppermintos

And a bit on the bottom, Sparky Linux.
But, unetbootin has been a bit unreliable for me nowadays, is the dd command more functional? (BunsenLabs and some debian stuff don't work with it) And is there a way to explain me a bit how to do it? (I know about my pendrive being marked as /sdb1)

I'll test it on the "Test Subject" Old Laptop that has been rotting a bit in here, last linux distro i installed there was Xubuntu
Title: Re: Help choosing a secondary distro for a pc with slow internet?
Post by: AndyInMokum on June 14, 2016, 06:47:18 pm
Alright so far, i'm seeing 2 possibilities.
BunsenLabs
Peppermintos

And a bit on the bottom, Sparky Linux.
But, unetbootin has been a bit unreliable for me nowadays, is the dd command more functional? (BunsenLabs and some debian stuff don't work with it) And is there a way to explain me a bit how to do it? (I know about my pendrive being marked as /sdb1)

I'll test it on the "Test Subject" Old Laptop that has been rotting a bit in here, last linux distro i installed there was Xubuntu
Okay, I'll walk you through the dd method.  The dd method of copying an image to a thumb drive or any USB storage device is very effective.  It's also very unforgiving.  Any error may have disastrous consequences.  Read the instructions from beginning to end.  Then read them two more times, before attempting to create the LiveUSB device.  Be warned, you must follow the instructions to the letter - dd can also stand for DataDestroyer.  It is advisable to umount and remove any unnecessary devices such as external hard drives.  It is best to have only the USB device you are going to dd attached to your machine.  It simply reduces the possibility of disasters.  This method will destroy any data you have on the usb device you are intending to use.  So BACKUP any data you have stored on it.  This will not only"Nuke 'n Pave" your USB, it will do it to anything you have attached if you are not meticulous!!  It is highly recommended that you perform a full system backup including any Windows partitions you may have before you start the dd process.  You have been advised if it goes wrong, I'll take no responsibility.  ;)

Determine what device your USB is.  With your USB device plugged in run:

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sudo ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/*usb*
The output should look similar to this:
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andy@AMILO-Li3710 ~ $ sudo ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/*usb*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 jul  7 13:05 /dev/disk/by-id/usb-Generic-_Multi-Card_20071114173400000-0:0 -> ../../sdb
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 jul  7 13:03 /dev/disk/by-id/usb-Lexar_USB_Flash_Drive_36A74627E624350908CC-0:0 -> ../../sdc
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 jul  7 13:03 /dev/disk/by-id/usb-Lexar_USB_Flash_Drive_36A74627E624350908CC-0:0-part1 -> ../../sdc1
andy@AMILO-Li3710 ~ $
In this example output, the USB device is: /sdc

Next is to unmount any partitions on the drive.  There is one partition on this example drive.  Using the example above as a reference, it would be entered into the command line as:
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sudo umount /dev/sdc1
This stage is precautionary, as the whole USB drive will be written to when the dd command is applied.

Adjust yours accordingly.

Next is to change directory to where you have your desired ISO saved.  The most likely place will be:
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cd ~/Downloads
Once you have changed to the required directory, you can enter the following command into the command line.  You must substitute, "<filename>.iso" for the ISO file name you are copying and "your-USB-device" for the USB being used.  Please Note, this is the point of no return.  Check everything thoroughly at least twice before hitting enter:
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sudo dd if=<filename>.iso of=/dev/your-USB-device bs=1M
When you are sure everything is as described in the tutorial  - hit enter.

For example: lets say the ISO file is called rubberduck-linux.iso and your USB device is sdb.  The command line entry would look like this:
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sudo dd if=rubberduck-linux.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=1M

NOTE - It is important there is NEVER a trailing number on the end of your /dev/sdx USB device.  If you are still unsure - ASK before you proceed.  I hope this helps.  Good luck  ;)!!

Alternatively and probably much easier to execute.  Launch Peppermint Six Live.  Download your desired ISO file.  Download it to a thumb drive if necessary.  Now use the USB Formatting Tool and the USB Image Writer that's preinstalled in Peppermint Six.  These tools are not UNetbootin.  They work very well and are much safer than dd.  Again, good luck and be very careful if you decide to use the dd command  ;).

Edit:  Your pendrive isn't /dev/sdb1.  That is the first partition on your pendrive.  Your pendrive is /dev/sdb.  This is not a fixed designation either.  This designation is dynamic and will most likely change if you add further devices to your system.  It is very important to always check your pendrive's designation before you do anything to it  ;).
Title: Re: Help choosing a secondary distro for a pc with slow internet?
Post by: Elemec on June 15, 2016, 11:08:05 am
What was the exact error message ?



RE: that error message, have you at any time changed the PC's hostname ?
Sorry didn't notice the small page buttons.
The error for installing virtualbox 5.0
These packages have dependencies that have not been found (Don't know the exact translation)
virtualbox-5.0 : Depends:  libvpx1 (>= 1.0.0) but is not installable

Around the error message "Can't resolve elemeclxde" No, i never changed the PC's hostname as far as i know
Title: Re: Help choosing a secondary distro for a pc with slow internet?
Post by: PCNetSpec on June 15, 2016, 03:10:27 pm
what's the output from:
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apt-cache search libvpx
Title: Re: Help choosing a secondary distro for a pc with slow internet?
Post by: Elemec on June 16, 2016, 05:53:33 pm
libvpx3 - VP8 and VP9 video codec (shared library)
libvpx-dev - VP8 and VP9 video codec (development files)
libvpx-doc - VP8 and VP9 video codec (API documentation)
libvpx3-dbg - VP8 and VP9 video codec (debugging symbols)
This is the result
Title: Re: Help choosing a secondary distro for a pc with slow internet?
Post by: PCNetSpec on June 16, 2016, 06:06:12 pm
Erm you shouldn't have that version .. can you post the output from
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inxi -F
and
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uname -a
and
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cat /etc/lsb-release
Title: Re: Help choosing a secondary distro for a pc with slow internet?
Post by: Elemec on June 17, 2016, 09:05:14 am
inxi -F
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System:    Host: elemeclxde Kernel: 4.4.0-24-generic i686 (32 bit)
           Desktop: LXDE (Openbox 3.6.1) Distro: Ubuntu 16.04 xenial
Machine:   Mobo: MSI model: MS-7309 v: 1.0
           Bios: American Megatrends v: V9.6 date: 08/14/2009
CPU:       Single core AMD Sempron 140 (-UP-) cache: 1024 KB
           speed: 2712 MHz (max)
Graphics:  Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Park [Mobility Radeon HD 5430]
           Display Server: X.Org 1.18.3 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1360x768@60.02hz
           GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on AMD CEDAR (DRM 2.43.0, LLVM 3.8.0)
           GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 11.2.0
Audio:     Card-1 NVIDIA MCP61 High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
           Card-2 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Cedar HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5400/6300 Series]
           driver: snd_hda_intel
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.4.0-24-generic
Network:   Card-1: NVIDIA MCP61 Ethernet driver: forcedeth
           IF: enp0s7 state: down mac: 00:24:21:fd:a6:96
           Card-2: Atheros AR9271 802.11n driver: ath9k_htc
           IF: wlx6466b3224a51 state: N/A mac: N/A
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 500.1GB (12.7% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: SAMSUNG_HD502IJ size: 500.1GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 457G used: 58G (14%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 2.14GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda5
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 53.5C mobo: N/A gpu: 56.5
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 166 Uptime: 53 min Memory: 654.8/2013.7MB
           Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.2.35

uname -a
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Linux elemeclxde 4.4.0-24-generic #43-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jun 8 19:25:16 UTC 2016 i686 athlon i686 GNU/Linux
cat /etc/lsb-release
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DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
DISTRIB_RELEASE=16.04
DISTRIB_CODENAME=xenial
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 16.04 LTS"
Title: Re: Help choosing a secondary distro for a pc with slow internet?
Post by: PCNetSpec on June 17, 2016, 09:15:37 am
Okay you're not running Peppermint 6, you're running Ubuntu 16.04  :-\

How did you add the Virtualbox repo ?

What's the contents of
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gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
Title: Re: Help choosing a secondary distro for a pc with slow internet?
Post by: AndyInMokum on June 17, 2016, 10:19:03 am
Hi Elemec, could you please remember to encapsulate terminal outputs with the Insert, Code # function.  For extra long outputs, please use the Spoiler, Sp function.  It preserves the original format of the output.  This makes it easier for future visitors to relate to their own issues.  These functions are found in the forum editor, above the,  :-[ Embarrassed and  the :'( Cry emoticon respectively.  I've done this for you this time - many thanks  ;).
Title: Re: Help choosing a secondary distro for a pc with slow internet?
Post by: murraymint on June 17, 2016, 11:12:21 am
Virtual Box, i'm using Lubuntu.
Title: Re: Help choosing a secondary distro for a pc with slow internet?
Post by: Elemec on June 17, 2016, 11:19:25 am
Spoiler (click here to view / hide)
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# deb cdrom:[Lubuntu 16.04 LTS _Xenial Xerus_ - Release i386 (20160420.1)]/ xenial main multiverse restricted universe

# See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to
# newer versions of the distribution.
deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial main restricted
# deb-src http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial main restricted

## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
## distribution.
deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial-updates main restricted
# deb-src http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial-updates main restricted

## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
## team.
deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial universe
# deb-src http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial universe
deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial-updates universe
# deb-src http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial-updates universe

## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
## multiverse WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu
## security team.
deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial multiverse
# deb-src http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial multiverse
deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial-updates multiverse
# deb-src http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial-updates multiverse

## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as
## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes
## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features.
## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review
## or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial-backports main restricted universe multiverse
# deb-src http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial-backports main restricted universe multiverse

## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from Canonical's
## 'partner' repository.
## This software is not part of Ubuntu, but is offered by Canonical and the
## respective vendors as a service to Ubuntu users.
# deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu xenial partner
# deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu xenial partner

deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security main restricted
# deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security main restricted
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security universe
# deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security universe
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security multiverse
# deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security multiverse
deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian trusty contrib
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Like this, Andy?

No, Like this:

Spoiler (click here to view / hide)
# deb cdrom:[Lubuntu 16.04 LTS _Xenial Xerus_ - Release i386 (20160420.1)]/ xenial main multiverse restricted universe

# See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to
# newer versions of the distribution.
deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial main restricted
# deb-src http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial main restricted

## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
## distribution.
deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial-updates main restricted
# deb-src http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial-updates main restricted

## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
## team.
deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial universe
# deb-src http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial universe
deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial-updates universe
# deb-src http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial-updates universe

## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
## multiverse WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu
## security team.
deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial multiverse
# deb-src http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial multiverse
deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial-updates multiverse
# deb-src http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial-updates multiverse

## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as
## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes
## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features.
## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review
## or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial-backports main restricted universe multiverse
# deb-src http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial-backports main restricted universe multiverse

## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from Canonical's
## 'partner' repository.
## This software is not part of Ubuntu, but is offered by Canonical and the
## respective vendors as a service to Ubuntu users.
# deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu xenial partner
# deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu xenial partner

deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security main restricted
# deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security main restricted
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security universe
# deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security universe
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security multiverse
# deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security multiverse
deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian trusty contrib
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For a long output like this one, only use the Spoiler function.  For standard outputs, only use the Insert Code.  You can test what the outputs will look like by using the Preview button that's next to the Save button  ;).
Title: Re: Help choosing a secondary distro for a pc with slow internet?
Post by: PCNetSpec on June 17, 2016, 12:23:51 pm
Run:
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sudo leafpad /etc/apt/sources.list
and change the bottom line from:
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deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian trusty contrib
to
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deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian xenial contrib
SAVE the file and exit leafpad.

Now run:
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sudo apt-get update
then install virtualbox-5.0:
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sudo apt-get install virtualbox-5.0
Title: Re: Help choosing a secondary distro for a pc with slow internet?
Post by: Elemec on June 18, 2016, 04:44:00 pm
Choices are getting clearer and clearer.
BunsenLabs failed to install properly because none of the repositories worked  ::)
Robolinux doesn't seem to really tick me into wanting to try it out
Semplice linux uses way too many shadows with their compositing...
Lubuntu is pretty plain, LXLE is pretty huge...

I actually ran out of considerable choices, so... I think so far Peppermint is the way to go. I really like pure openbox setups, but the idea of me building that... Well let`s say it ruins the "Lazy" part.

I'll be installing Peppermint today, as BL left me with an unstable lubuntu, and i was having some problems with Steam and dropbox there, so, Peppermint seems to be the way to go
Title: Re: Help choosing a secondary distro for a pc with slow internet?
Post by: PCNetSpec on June 18, 2016, 04:53:29 pm
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Title: Re: Help choosing a secondary distro for a pc with slow internet?
Post by: Elemec on June 18, 2016, 08:28:16 pm
Installed, everything i need (And remember  ::)) is installed.

Tried going for an openbox pure setup, was doing decent at first, but then started noticing as i got deeper it felt like rocket science (Since i only got a bit of help that was a small script for tint2) still, was good to learn somethings about openbox.

So far everything is normal, surprisingly i got able to fix a little problem i had when putting openbox istead of xfwm4 (Everything looked black and the cursor was a X) and so far it's being nice (Except for maybe the fact openbox is being so difficult to standalone-setup)
Title: Re: Help choosing a secondary distro for a pc with slow internet?
Post by: AndyInMokum on June 18, 2016, 09:50:54 pm
Hi Elemec, maybe the video in this link submitted by, rajeev2631007 will help: https://forum.peppermintos.com/index.php/topic,3044.msg30216.html#msg30216 (https://forum.peppermintos.com/index.php/topic,3044.msg30216.html#msg30216).  You can always ask Slim.Fatz.  He's really good with Open box, Fluxbox and tiled window managers  ;).
Title: Re: Help choosing a secondary distro for a pc with slow internet?
Post by: Elemec on June 19, 2016, 01:05:20 pm
Thanks, so far everything (from default) has been running extremely nicely, though, dropbox seems to never end uploading a single file that "Takes one second" but is been sitting here since i configured dropbox  :-\

Other than that performance is flawless, looks pretty nice out-of-the-box and compositing doesn't seem to waste many mbs of ram, so everthing feels as good as can be.

From installed things by my choice, the major problem is GPicView crashes my system (Leading to lightdm i think) when i click reload on the lxsession. But really, other than that everything is good. Enjoying it, will check out that post you did, Andy, and see if it lets me have a nice Openbox setup (I don't know why but when i tried Openbox on BL and Semplice i felt it to be more intuitive than a conventional DE, who knows eh?  ::))
Title: Re: Help choosing a secondary distro for a pc with slow internet?
Post by: Slim.Fatz on June 19, 2016, 01:09:37 pm
Hi Elemec,

My advice for you (given that you seem to desire a lean and fast WM) is to skip Openbox and give Fluxbox a test. My tutorial (found in this thread (https://forum.peppermintos.com/index.php/topic,2804.0.html)) will help you get started: it has rather detailed comments in the downloadable configuration files. And on my machines Fluxbox is the WM that uses the least amount of RAM.

Regards,

-- Slim
 
Title: Re: Help choosing a secondary distro for a pc with slow internet?
Post by: Elemec on June 19, 2016, 06:53:16 pm
Hi Elemec,

My advice for you (given that you seem to desire a lean and fast WM) is to skip Openbox and give Fluxbox a test. My tutorial (found in this thread (https://forum.peppermintos.com/index.php/topic,2804.0.html)) will help you get started: it has rather detailed comments in the downloadable configuration files. And on my machines Fluxbox is the WM that uses the least amount of RAM.

Regards,

-- Slim
 
Ooo, i never really tried Fluxbox outside of the unconfigurated version (Stock, right after you apt-get)

Alright, i'll give it a shot, seems interesting.
Title: Re: Help choosing a secondary distro for a pc with slow internet?
Post by: Elemec on June 20, 2016, 03:36:34 pm
Alright, Fluxbox's been pretty good even with just the sample configs, however i'm still unsure about OB or FB
Cause', Openbox's menu i'm able to find stuff quickly almost out of the bat (I need to install menu or something so "Debian" appears) and it just feels a bit more "like home", although, configuring it (By my peeking at some configs) is harder than fluxbox, requiring also a panel (I tried the tint2 one, but couldn't get it to work like BL's, whose you could open the menu on it, rather than needing to click the borders it wasn't put on)

I'll keep trying things out so far, though i think the main purpose of the thread already ended? (PeppermintOS won by a small part, but, a win is a win, eh?)