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Title: Stylish for Firefox
Post by: zebedeeboss on May 25, 2016, 05:32:50 pm
Hi All

I have just discovered Stylish (Firefox extension), probably old hat for you guys n gals; and a user style called Tomorrow Night Global.  Where it changes "ALL" pages to a dark theme.   Some work some don't but it is so easy to turn off when they don't.  Now I don't have to put up with that "Glaring White" background that most pages provide.

with Style on
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with Style off
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You may find other styles you like.   Like I said it's not perfect but its a start to stop that eye glare.   There is another called dark search for google, turns google search page black.

EDIT: and I think I had another running that just greys the white slightly, which is why the bottom screen is not glaring white  :'(

Have fun finding your perfect balanced style

Regards Zeb...
Title: Re: Stylish for Firefox
Post by: aagimob on May 26, 2016, 03:32:34 am
...hello friends...to read,i do not recommend dark themes...i do not want to discuss too much because it is a simple matter of taste...but...ask yourself why books ( i do not mean covers ) have white pages with black fonts ? :-\...another good example is this site... :D
Title: Re: Stylish for Firefox
Post by: AndyInMokum on May 26, 2016, 04:12:57 am
...hello friends...to read,i do not recommend dark themes...i do not want to discuss too much because it is a simple matter of taste...but...ask yourself why books ( i do not mean covers ) have white pages with black fonts ? :-\...another good example is this site... :D
I personally find webpages where the majority of the screen is white, to be very tiring on the eyes.  This includes the Peppermint Forum.  There's a massive difference between black print on paper and black fonts on a white screen.  The light from paper is reflected and diffused, whereas the light from a screen is backlit and glaring.  This problem has been recognised by eBook Readers, like Kindle.  This is why they offer ePaper screens that utilize reflected light rather than the more usual backlit screens.  I think that it's convention rather than logic, that drives the use of black on white backlit screens  ;).
Title: Re: Stylish for Firefox
Post by: PCNetSpec on May 26, 2016, 07:01:48 am
ask yourself why books ( i do not mean covers ) have white pages with black fonts ?

a) because it uses FAR less ink ;)
and
b) because books are not backlight (even light themes on PC's tend more often than not to be a light grey for this very reason .. there's a world of difference between reflected sunlight on paper and bright white backlight on a screen)

The part that for sales purposes is meant to grab your attention so where cost isn't an issue, the cover, most often uses bright text on a dark background as it contrasts better and isn't so hard on the eye.

Nothing wrong with preferring light themes, but the analogy didn't *really* hold up now did it ;)

[EDIT]

Sorry, Andy seems to have already said the same thing .. Oh well, "great minds" and all that :)
Title: Re: Stylish for Firefox
Post by: murraymint on May 26, 2016, 08:03:04 am
For some of us the white text on a dark background appears to be gently shaking, and looks like the monitor of an old BBC Micro.
Title: Re: Stylish for Firefox
Post by: scifidude79 on May 26, 2016, 09:29:35 am
Books may be printed with black text on a white background, but I can set my Kindle Fire to different reading modes, including white text on a black background.
Title: Re: Stylish for Firefox
Post by: perknh on September 01, 2018, 10:27:58 pm
Stylish for Firefox is the right name for this post, so I'm reviving zebedeeboss' s thread here.

Has anyone looked at Firefox Nightly lately?  Have you see its icon?  I REALLY like the looks of it!

You can see it here (https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/63.0a1/releasenotes/).  Is that cool or what? 8)

I've been on a Firefox kick lately.  I've looked at SeaMonkey, Pale Moon, Basilisk, Waterfox, Firefox, and Firefox Nightly.  Right now I'm having fun with Firefox Nightly.  I installed Firefox Nightly from following the instructions at OMG! UBUNTU (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/05/install-firefox-beta-on-ubuntu-linux-mint).  It's a PPA installation from "Ubuntu Mozilla Daily Build Team" team (https://answers.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+answeredquestions) in Great Britain.

Nightly shares a lot of data with its developers (https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/privacy/firefox/#health-report) by default -- and even runs tests by default, but you can uncheck any of the stuff you don't want to share.  Right now I'm okay with sharing interaction and technical data, error reports, or participating in a shield study if Mozilla would like.

Title: Re: Stylish for Firefox
Post by: PCNetSpec on September 02, 2018, 01:48:24 pm
Right now I'm okay with sharing interaction and technical data, error reports, or participating in a shield study if Mozilla would like.

Good for you perknh, that's kinda the point of the nightlies .. feedback to help improve :)
Title: Re: Stylish for Firefox
Post by: perknh on September 02, 2018, 04:06:43 pm
After reading this (https://venturebeat.com/2015/06/09/mozilla-responds-to-firefox-user-backlash-over-pocket-integration/) article, I don't know if I should make an exception for Pocket by disabling it. :-\

I suppose, if I'm in Nightly for a penny I might as well be in Nightly for a pound -- enable Pocket in Nightly, disable it in Firefox stable, and then refuse to use it in either. (We've still got bookmarking, you know!)  I had no idea that Pocket was proprietary software embedded within our open source browser. :o

Quote
The complaints center around the fact Pocket is a proprietary third-party service, already exists as an add-on, and is not a required component for a browser. Integrating Pocket directly into Firefox means it cannot be removed, only disabled. -- Emil Protalinski for VentureBeat

Come on, Mozilla! ::)



Link:  https://forum.peppermintos.com/index.php/topic,7445.msg76357.html#msg76357
Title: Re: Stylish for Firefox
Post by: PCNetSpec on September 02, 2018, 05:57:56 pm
Personally I'd disable it, then let them get usage stats .. hopefully they'll see it's disabled and think again.

Dumb move Mozilla .. it doesn't need to be there.
(at least it **can** be disabled .. better than nothing, but I'd rather see it as a plugin or at worst a disable toggle in the settings, not buried in about:config)
Title: Re: Stylish for Firefox
Post by: perknh on September 02, 2018, 06:08:43 pm
Personally I'd disable it, then let them get usage stats .. hopefully they'll see it's disabled and think again.

Okay, I like it.  Doing this will help while making a statement at the same time!  Thanks. :)

Title: Re: Stylish for Firefox
Post by: spence on September 02, 2018, 08:15:45 pm
Hi All

I have just discovered Stylish (Firefox extension), probably old hat for you guys n gals; and a user style called Tomorrow Night Global.  Where it changes "ALL" pages to a dark theme.   Some work some don't but it is so easy to turn off when they don't.  Now I don't have to put up with that "Glaring White" background that most pages provide.

with Style on
Spoiler (click here to view / hide)
(http://storage3.static.itmages.com/i/16/0525/h_1464211465_2124089_c496ffff17.png)
[close]

with Style off
Spoiler (click here to view / hide)
(http://storage7.static.itmages.com/i/16/0525/h_1464211636_4321813_8a533d1826.png)
[close]

your spoiler links don't show anything @zebedeeboss I too am a fan of dark screens... and this reminds me to turn the peppermint ssb to a darker grey, white is tiring on the old eyes here
Title: Re: Stylish for Firefox
Post by: PCNetSpec on September 02, 2018, 08:39:25 pm
your spoiler links don't show anything @zebedeeboss

I was going to mention that...
Title: Re: Stylish for Firefox
Post by: VinDSL on September 02, 2018, 08:51:35 pm
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Title: Re: Stylish for Firefox
Post by: spence on September 03, 2018, 02:43:52 pm
Hi All

I have just discovered Stylish (Firefox extension),

Whilst setting in to deploy Stylish on the laptop I stumbled across a discussion about stylish being removed for datamining... Why Stylish was removed. - forum.userstyles.org (http://Why Stylish was removed. - forum.userstyles.org)

you might wanna redeploy with Stylus...    https://add0n.com/stylus.html (https://add0n.com/stylus.html)

EDIT/RetractionWhelp, never mind, STYLUS also no longer works for current Firefox.   :(
Title: Re: Stylish for Firefox
Post by: spence on September 03, 2018, 03:04:12 pm
Personally I'd disable it, then let them get usage stats .. hopefully they'll see it's disabled and think again.

Dumb move Mozilla .. it doesn't need to be there.

Much discussion on the various news.mozilla.org newsgroups last few years revolves around funding and the desperate search to offload Seamonkey and Thunderbird to new homes. I would surmise that Pocket made a substantial quid pro quo donation to Mozilla Foundation in order to gain "embedding".  

 :-X
Title: Re: Stylish for Firefox
Post by: PCNetSpec on September 03, 2018, 03:09:22 pm
Not a good 'look' for Firefox though.

I'd have no problem with that if it were 'opt-out' and a simple checkbox in the UI settings.

Heck I wouldn't mind if they included adverts OOTB as long as they were transparent about it and there was an EASY way to opt-out.

It's the lack of transparency surrounding pocket that troubles me .. and not something I expect from Mozilla.
Title: Re: Stylish for Firefox
Post by: spence on September 07, 2018, 03:25:22 pm
Helpful tip, when one wants to unload an addon from any individual SSB (like I wanted to do with STYLISH... hit the ALT to get the file too bar, then  HELP to get the RESTART WITH ADDONS DISABLED.... then you'll be able to disable or remove the unwanted addon... this has been bugging me for a bit. While I prefer darker backgrounds, I need to find a different way to deploy one.

 ;)