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Title: Ubuntu MATE 14.10
Post by: AndyInMokum on November 24, 2014, 04:15:07 pm
Hi all, I had some time to kill this afternoon and the Linux Luddites podcast were doing a review of the newest baby to enter the Ubuntu family - Ubuntu MATE 14.10.  I thought, that this sounds interesting and went over to the Ubuntu MATE site: https://ubuntu-mate.org/ .  I downloaded the 64 bit version and slung it on a 8GB SanDisk thumb drive.  It booted up to a live session really quickly.  Low and behold, there it was - Ubuntu with the MATE desktop.  It looks so similar to the classic, Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat with the GNOME 2 desktop you hear the "grey beards" nostalgically speaking about.  This is a community supported release.  At the moment they have two releases: Ubuntu MATE 14.04 LTS and the newest 14.10 release.  This project is not yet officially supported by Ubuntu.  However, this is one of the objectives of the small development team.  It looks and feels really nice - even classy.  I'm in the Live Session as I write this and it is very responsive.  It really behaves very well indeed.  It certainly comes with a much better selection of pre-installed software compared to it's bulkier Unity based sibling.  I think Ubuntu MATE could quite easily give Linux Mint MATE a run for its money.  Obviously, I have only given it a brief look.  From what I have seen though, the "grey beards" I spoke of previously will be doing cart-wheels and weeping with joy  :).  All the best and good luck to the Ubuntu MATE team on a very nice looking distro ;).
Title: Re: Ubuntu MATE 14.10
Post by: emegra on November 24, 2014, 04:34:19 pm
They also featured it on the Linux Action Show and they gave it a glowing review,
 I first came across Mate with Mint 13 or 14 I think and at that time it was reckoned it wouldn't last once Gnome 3 matured




Graeme
Title: Re: Ubuntu MATE 14.10
Post by: AndyInMokum on November 24, 2014, 04:42:28 pm
Yeah, I really think all those people pining for the "classic" look are going to be very happy.  I'm going to be interested to see if Mark Shuttleworth officially welcomes them into the fold though.  It could rub him up the wrong way with all the negativity towards Unity.
Title: Re: Ubuntu MATE 14.10
Post by: perknh on November 24, 2014, 08:28:15 pm
I'm going to be interested to see if Mark Shuttleworth officially welcomes them into the fold though.  It could rub him up the wrong way with all the negativity towards Unity.

Let's hope Mark Shuttleworth sees the wisdom of having a variety of desktop environment options.  There is a beauty in MATE.  I discovered that after you introduced me to that warp speeding, flash drive distribution called Porteus!

To be honest, I haven't learned my way around MATE, GNOME, or KDE, much yet.  But having MATE in Ubuntu sounds like a welcomed addition.  :)

P.S.

I found this link, and I've installed MATE next to my Unity 14.04.1 installation on my external hard drive:

http://askubuntu.com/questions/87040/how-do-i-install-mate-the-desktop-environment (http://askubuntu.com/questions/87040/how-do-i-install-mate-the-desktop-environment)

Now, I've got Peppermint, Unity, and MATE installed internally, and externally, on this computer!  8)



Title: Re: Ubuntu MATE 14.10
Post by: AndyInMokum on November 25, 2014, 02:40:46 am
Cool, I've been thinking about getting another 1TB external drive They are only around 50 - 70 here.  I'll then stick Ubuntu MATE and Peppermint Five 64 bit for testing stuff on it.  I'll probably Clonezilla my beloved Crunchbang over there too.  That'll keep my laptop with only a production version of Peppermint Five on it.  ;).
Title: Re: Ubuntu MATE 14.10
Post by: PCNetSpec on November 25, 2014, 06:21:49 am
I'm still not 100% convinced by MATE

The reason given for Gnome3 (and it makes sense) is that the Gnome 2.x code was a twisted mess with patches on patches and other patches to fix what those patches broke .. this tends to happen to software as it ages.

If you think about it, what most people didn't like about Gnome 3 was their shell, and that it wasn't as customisable as Gnome 2.x .. well there was never really anything stopping people writing a new shell or (after Gnome stopped being stupid) shell extensions, Cinnamon did just that.

I'm just not sure if working with an old code base is a way FORWARD .. you can't stay in the past forever, particularly in the IT world.

And all this from a "Grey Beard" that still thinks Gnome 2.x was the best DE to date....
Title: Re: Ubuntu MATE 14.10
Post by: perknh on November 25, 2014, 10:39:58 am
Cool, I've been thinking about getting another 1TB external drive They are only around 50 - 70 here.  I'll then stick Ubuntu MATE and Peppermint Five 64 bit for testing stuff on it.  I'll probably Clonezilla my beloved Crunchbang over there too.  That'll keep my laptop with only a production version of Peppermint Five on it.  ;).

I believe the 1 TB Toshiba external hard drives are going for $70 over here.  But on Black Friday, Brown Thursday, or Cyber Monday, who knows?

I have Peppermint installed internally on this computer.  I got myself into some mischief last night with MATE.  I tried to remove the Home folder off my desktop, but couldn't figure out how.  I apparently deleted everything in the folder instead, and since I guess I removed my Unity installation also when I used the command sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends ubuntu-mate-core ubuntu-mate-desktop , my external hard drive installation went belly up -- since I could never get back into Unity.

This being said, I liked MATE.  If you have any hints as to how to remove that Home folder off my desktop, I'd appreciate them.

I'm willing to try this all over again -- minus that final command.  On the other hand, if you think I'd be smarter to begin learning GNOME, I can install that too.  I've tried installing Trisquel 7.0 a couple of times -- a GNOME DE based off of Ubuntu -- but I could never get Chrome or Skype to function with that GNOME distro.

GNOME looks a lot like MATE to me too, but with MATE I can almost see the thoughts behind Unity.  In fact MATE seems like a cleaner flavor of Ubuntu than Unity itself.

As for your conversation with PCNetSpec, I'm wondering if the two Linux DEs for the masses are now Cinnamon and Unity, while LXDE and LXQt remain for folks that want to keep things light.  KDE, another gorgeous desktop, seems reserved for very advanced users.  I haven't cracked the KDE nut at all yet.

Title: Re: Ubuntu MATE 14.10
Post by: PCNetSpec on November 25, 2014, 10:44:23 am
If you have any hints as to how to remove that Home folder off my desktop, I'd appreciate them.

It'll be in the file manager preferences somewhere.
(or dconf)

[EDIT]

If they're not selectable in the file manager (Caja) preferences.....

See:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MATE#Show_or_hide_desktop_icons

Easier to install the dconf-editor GUI:
Code: [Select]
sudo apt-get install dconf-editor
then use that to browse to
org > mate > caja > desktop

You'll then see tick boxes for the each desktop icon
Title: Re: Ubuntu MATE 14.10
Post by: perknh on November 25, 2014, 10:47:32 am
Thank you.  ;)
Title: Re: Ubuntu MATE 14.10
Post by: PCNetSpec on November 25, 2014, 10:52:38 am
If you haven't already .. see the edit to my last posting.

In particular, the bit about using the dconf-editor GUI
Title: Re: Ubuntu MATE 14.10
Post by: nomko on November 25, 2014, 11:05:55 am
I'm using Mint 17 + Mate and i must say, it will survive the Gnome3 evolution. Mate cannot be compared to Gnome3 since it is a fork of good old Gnome2 and therefore it has its own path of evolution.

Mint made Mate looking pretty easy with the Mintmenu plugin for Mate, the old Gnome2 look could still appeal some users, but it has to be competitive with the (slightly more advanced) Xfce desktop which had an increase of users after the introduction of Unity.

But as far as we are standing now, i believe this latest development comes rather a bit too late. Most users already has chosen some desktop they prefer to use and i'm not that sure any more that there are users out there who wants to return to the old Gnome2 feel and look....
Title: Re: Ubuntu MATE 14.10
Post by: PCNetSpec on November 25, 2014, 11:55:26 am
If you think about it, it wasn't really just plain 'ol' Gnome 2.x that people liked, it was probably more the plethora of available third party extensions / plugins / apps

In other words it was stupendously configurable...

At first the Gnome devs tried to limit configurability in Gnome 3 (wanting a unified look), but they appear to have seen sense, and now a lot of extensions are appearing.
(Heck Cinnamon started life pretty much as just a Gnome 3 shell .. so it's configurable alright)

That said, I see third party devs are still moaning about the way Gnome keep breaking backwards compatibility of extensions .. so it still isn't all roses and light.
(but I'm willing to bet there was some of that in the early Gnome 2 days too)
Title: Re: Ubuntu MATE 14.10
Post by: perknh on November 25, 2014, 12:17:11 pm
If you haven't already .. see the edit to my last posting.

In particular, the bit about using the dconf-editor GUI

Well, I'm finally discovering Gnome -- at least indirectly.  :)

PCNetSpec, I will install dconf-editor after I re-install Ubuntu Mate 14.04.1 LTS.  I believe I've used this tool before within Xubuntu.  What you have described is exactly what I was looking for last night, and clearly, as you can see, I never found it!

Thank you.  ;)
Title: Re: Ubuntu MATE 14.10
Post by: perknh on November 25, 2014, 01:38:17 pm

Code: [Select]
sudo apt-get install dconf-editor
then use that to browse to
org > mate > caja > desktop

You'll then see tick boxes for the each desktop icon

Bingo!  deconf-editor was already installed, and your instructions worked like a charm!  ;)

This is a very nice desktop environment too.  I'm glad I jumped into this thread.

Thank you,

perknh
Title: Re: Ubuntu MATE 14.10
Post by: PCNetSpec on November 25, 2014, 02:10:42 pm
No worries  .. If you like the Gnome 2.x look & feel of MATE, does that make you an honorary grey beard ? :)
Title: Re: Ubuntu MATE 14.10
Post by: rjm65 on November 25, 2014, 02:23:35 pm
My beard turned grey in my early 20's so does that make me old?
Anyhoo anything is better then unity grey beard or not...  LOL 
I know one guy that will disagree with what i just said, sorry bud but i think you are the only one that likes unity...   ;)
Title: Re: Ubuntu MATE 14.10
Post by: PCNetSpec on November 25, 2014, 02:33:45 pm
Can't be talking about me then  :D
Title: Re: Ubuntu MATE 14.10
Post by: perknh on November 25, 2014, 02:49:21 pm
No worries  .. If you like the Gnome 2.x look & feel of MATE, does that make you an honorary grey beard ? :)

Yes, that's exactly what I am.  I like the term.  It's perfect.  ;)

I am the old goat in this forum -- and with a head just a bony!  ;D

I also wanted to tell you I discovered there is program in this distro called MATE Tweak, and its default mini page is called Desktop icons, with the icons Computer, Home, Trash, Network, and Mounted Volumes that a user can either check, or leave unchecked, as desired.

I think this MATE movement in Ubuntu is going to take off -- especially if this flavor eventually offers five years of support.  Then it will become a genuine rival to Unity for ordinary end users.

 By the way, I'm Unity free today! 
Title: Re: Ubuntu MATE 14.10
Post by: PCNetSpec on November 25, 2014, 02:54:08 pm
Then it will become a genuine rival to Unity for ordinary end users.

Sorry, but there's no chance of that.

Even Cinnamon doesn't rival Unity in any real sense .. no matter what Distrowatch would have you believe.

Take a quick look at the amount of questions asked per hour on the Ubuntu forum Vs the Mint forum .. then tell me Distrowatch's figures have any real meaning .. Ubuntu still dwarves those around it.

Kinda proves the old adage - "There's no accounting for taste"  :o
Title: Re: Ubuntu MATE 14.10
Post by: perknh on November 25, 2014, 03:23:32 pm
Then it will become a genuine rival to Unity for ordinary end users.

Sorry, but there's no chance of that.

Even Cinnamon doesn't rival Unity in any real sense .. no matter what Distrowatch would have you believe.

Take a quick look at the amount of questions asked per hour on the Ubuntu forum Vs the Mint forum .. then tell me Distrowatch's figures have any real meaning .. Ubuntu still dwarves those around it.

Kinda proves the old adage - "There's no accounting for taste"  :o

I suspect you're right, of course.  My enthusiasm for a new flavor of Ubuntu is getting the best of me.  Unity, nosy and heavy as it is, is very user friendly.  There's no real need for customization.  Yeah, I'm certain you're right -- "there's no chance..."

But the more I look at this MATE, or Gnome 2 flavor, the more I can see from where the other desktop environments originated -- including LXDE.  I move and hide the panels a bit, and I've almost got Peppermint, and if I change them again, I have a good working foundation for Unity.

We've got to thank AndyInMokum for discovering and sharing this new flavor of Ubuntu to us.  It is pretty cool.  :)
 

 
Title: Re: Ubuntu MATE 14.10
Post by: PCNetSpec on November 25, 2014, 04:09:04 pm
Nothing wrong with enthusiasm, and I think everyone should at some point take a looksee at Gnome 2.x (and indeed KDE 3/3.5, though I didn't really say that ;) ) .. if for nothing more than (as you say) to see the DE evolution ;)

I'm just not convinced keeping the twisted code base that is Gnome 2.x alive (no matter how good it was) is the way >>forward>>

I'm more for checking out "new" DE's such as Ikey's Budgie Desktop than sitting on old tech that will likely slowly stagnate.
Title: Re: Ubuntu MATE 14.10
Post by: PCNetSpec on November 25, 2014, 04:25:20 pm
Here's the thing....

People say Win98SE or XP was the best Windows to date, and they may be right .. but that doesn't mean it would still be the best today, or that tech should stand still .. how will the next big thing happen if we stand still

Gnome 2.x was my favourite DE to date (so undoubtedly MATE will feel great), but it's dead .. take it off life support, let it pass gracefully (and be fondly remembered), and move on ;)

That does NOT mean lessons can't be learned from it and incorporated into what's yet to come :)
Title: Re: Ubuntu MATE 14.10
Post by: perknh on November 25, 2014, 04:52:05 pm
Here's the thing....

People say Win98SE or XP was the best Windows to date, and they may be right .. but that doesn't mean it would still be the best today, or that tech should stand still .. how will the next big thing happen if we stand still

Gnome 2.x was my favourite DE to date (so undoubtedly MATE will feel great), but it's dead .. move on ;)

I thought Porteus was fast because it was a derivative from Slackware and because it was to used on flash drives, but this flavor of Ubuntu is blistering fast, and now I'm thinking Porteus was so fast because of MATE.  You don't think that Mate could be a back-to-the-future DE -- maybe with a little tweaking?

Although I do like Unity very much, we know it's got many problems. (In fact I think that this rendition of Unity is a little worse than the rendition before -- heavier, nosier, and with more bloat.)  Cinnamon is attractive, but I find it a little difficult to see.  There's the Deepin Desktop environment that appears to be a very creative adaptation of Unity, but there are still a lot of bugs to be sorted out with Deepin.  Still, I think it will become a winner over time. 

I guess what I'm doing right now is discovering the roots of many DEs by exploring a modified Gnome.  I'll look at Budgie.  I had never heard of it before.

By the way, right now I've modified Mate to favor Peppermint.  Anyone here would feel right at home with the customizations I have made.

I guess you could say I've been Peppermintized!  :P

P.S.

By the way, I just found Budgie, and it looks very, very nice.  It does appear to be a modified, or modernized, Gnome 2, or MATE!  ;)

https://evolve-os.com/budgie/ (https://evolve-os.com/budgie/)
Title: Re: Ubuntu MATE 14.10
Post by: PCNetSpec on November 25, 2014, 05:26:29 pm
You don't think that Mate could be a back-to-the-future DE -- maybe with a little tweaking?

Nope, not without a complete code rewrite, and Gnome have no intention of that .. in fact that's what they consider Gnome 3 to be.

In the same way as a Windows version written on Win98SE code base wouldn't be.

Like it or not Gnome 2.x has no future .. MATE will drag its death out for a while the same way as there were KDE 3.5 forks, but eventually stuff will stop working with it and little to no new stuff will appear for it and it'll fade/die out as the KDE forks did.

This is of course just my crystal ball gazing (and it may be broken) .. there's always the possibility that devs will flock to MATE in a big way, but I think that would already have hapepned if it was going to .. MATE isn't new, it's been around since Gnome 2.x was retired.

Deepin DE (the last time I looked) seemed a bit like some weird cross between Xfce and KDE 3.5  :-\
Title: Re: Ubuntu MATE 14.10
Post by: perknh on November 25, 2014, 05:45:01 pm
Quote
This is of course just my opinion ..
-- PCNetSpec

Still, it's an expert opinion. 

I should tell you I just downloaded the PPA for Budgie but I've seen no changes, or options, on my desktop at boot up.  Maybe Budgie only works for Unity right now.  Anyway, I don't know to activate it, but it is installed.

I thought it would give me the option to boot into either desktop at will.

I was wrong -- again!  ::)
Title: Re: Ubuntu MATE 14.10
Post by: PCNetSpec on November 25, 2014, 06:09:15 pm
You haven't selected the budgie session from the login screen then ;)

Budgie can emulate Gnome 2.x (in the same way Gnome 3 can) but it doesn't by default.

[EDIT]

You might want to be careful with Budgie for the moment .. particularly if you are installling it in Peppermint and have Peppermint set to autologin.
Budgie should NOT be considered a finished product yet, and in Peppermint can be a pain to log out from.
Title: Re: Ubuntu MATE 14.10
Post by: perknh on November 25, 2014, 06:42:35 pm
You haven't selected the budgie session from the login screen then ;)

There isn't one.  Believe me, I've looked.  Do you think this is because I'm installed a PPA on top of a distro in development?   Both are in development, I think.

No, I'm keeping all my craziness with Ubuntu MATE on my external hard drive.  I'm not touching my Peppermint installation.

Title: Re: Ubuntu MATE 14.10
Post by: PCNetSpec on November 25, 2014, 06:58:45 pm
I couldn't tell you how it'll behave with MATE .. I don't even know which session manager MATE uses.
Title: Re: Ubuntu MATE 14.10
Post by: perknh on November 25, 2014, 07:07:08 pm
That's okay -- this is just a fun idea.

Is there a trick for finding and then removing an installed PPA -- so I get rid of all of it?

My interest has been piqued, I can play with this idea another day.

Title: Re: Ubuntu MATE 14.10
Post by: AndyInMokum on November 25, 2014, 07:42:58 pm
Here's a YouTube tutorial on how to install the Budgie Desktop to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS:

http://youtu.be/Fb3Zu4rJ5tU (http://youtu.be/Fb3Zu4rJ5tU)

I've  been following Ikey on Google+.  The whole development of Evolve OS and the Budgie Desktop is really interesting. An Alpha4 ISO of Evolve OS is available to download.  I think it is only 64 bit at the moment. Evolve OS (https://evolve-os.com/).
Title: Re: Ubuntu MATE 14.10
Post by: perknh on November 25, 2014, 08:15:27 pm
Hello AndyInMokum,

Thank you for this.  But you should know, according to my software center in MATE, I already have Budgie Desktop installed!  But, I can't find, nor can I see, anything concerning Budgie.

But if I can't find Budgie, how can I remove, or purge, the the Budgie PPA I've installed?  I've never known how to uninstall a PPA, but I would think they have to be able to be located somewhere in this distro.

I had a great conversation today, in this thread, with PCNetSpec concerning MATE, Gnome 2, and Budgie.

Now I can always start over again if need be, but I believe I'm ready to learn more about PPAs.

I don't know what happened to my Budgie desktop I had installed.  :-\

Thank you,

perknh

P.S.

I found the answer -- I think...I hope!

http://itsfoss.com/how-to-remove-or-delete-ppas-quick-tip/ (http://itsfoss.com/how-to-remove-or-delete-ppas-quick-tip/)

P.P.S.

According to the software center Budgie desktop IS installed.  But, it is NOT listed in my Other Software section of my Software Sources.  ??? Obviously, something is wrong here, but, no problemo, I'll begin again!

Thank you, PCNetSpec and AndyInMokum, for all of the help, and all of the fun, I had today.  ;)
Title: Re: Ubuntu MATE 14.10
Post by: AndyInMokum on November 25, 2014, 08:47:01 pm
Hi perknh, I've been watching the conversation. Mark brought up some really good points.  The whole conversation you guys were having was really interesting.  I still like the look of Ubuntu MATE though.  I thought it must be fast as a regular installation because the Live Session was really snappy.  As for Budgie, you should have the option at the login screen.  Use the up and down arrow keys at the prompt.  If you wish to remove the ppa that is really easy.  Just run this command:
Code: [Select]
sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:<name of ppa>
and then:
Code: [Select]
apt update
That's it - have fun  ;).
Title: Re: Ubuntu MATE 14.10
Post by: PCNetSpec on November 25, 2014, 09:01:17 pm
In this case, to remove the only package that would have been installed from the PPA, then remove the PPA from your sources, then update the package cache, then remove any orphaned dependencies:
Code: [Select]
sudo apt-get remove --purge budgie-desktop
then
Code: [Select]
sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:evolve-os/ppa
then
Code: [Select]
sudo apt-get update
then
Code: [Select]
sudo apt-get autoremove
Title: Re: Ubuntu MATE 14.10
Post by: perknh on November 26, 2014, 12:03:43 am
Thank you, PCNetSpec and AndyInMokum.  I've had quite a learning experience today.

Well, I finally got to install budgie, but I've been able to do so only in Unity at this point.  It, too, is lightening fast, and still under development as PCNetSpec has said.  For instance, I can't find the Shut down, or Log out button, but the r  e  i  s  u  o trick works with this, so this is no problem for me.  On the other hand, I'm quite confident I may be the only one around here that would want to employ that technique on a regular basis!  :-X

So, at this point, the edge for the time being, of course, will have to go to MATE, but MATE could learn a few icon tricks for its panel from budgie, or even from Peppermint -- like the word Menu!  For now, I'll stay with Peppermint on my Internal hard drive and MATE on my external.  I appear to have been charmed by a couple of botanical distributions!

Yesterday has been an interesting experience for me.  And, after working with MATE and budgie, I can see why people are fed up with Unity.  Unity is just plain sneaky the way it snoops on its users.  I don't see any of that nonsense with MATE or budgie.

Thank you both.  I'm going to bookmark this thread.  Today we're bracing for a northeaster (or a nor'easter), and hours before a holiday at that!

Title: Re: Ubuntu MATE 14.10
Post by: PCNetSpec on November 26, 2014, 07:07:48 am
Try
Code: [Select]
budgie-session-dialog
or
Code: [Select]
gnome-session-quit
or if youu don't want to be promtede for what to do
Code: [Select]
gnome-session-quit --no-prompt
or
Code: [Select]
gnome-session --logout
or
Code: [Select]
dbus-send --session --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=org.gnome.SessionManager /org/gnome/SessionManager org.gnome.SessionManager.Logout uint32:1
or if worst comes to worst:
Code: [Select]
sudo shutdown -P now

If any of those work (preferably one of the first two) it would be easy to add a logout menu item
Title: Re: Ubuntu MATE 14.10
Post by: perknh on November 26, 2014, 08:55:12 am
I'm sorry, PCNetSpec,

I re-installed MATE a couple hours before you posted here, or I would have given those commands a try.

But you know, I'm really digging on this Gnome 2, or MATE thing.  I feel like I just discovered the wheel!  :)

Peppermint and MATE really is a great combination of flavors -- a winning Mokum combo! ;)

Thank you,

perknh
Title: Re: Ubuntu MATE 14.10
Post by: PCNetSpec on November 26, 2014, 09:15:08 am
No problem .. they're here for anyone else reading this :)
Title: Re: Ubuntu MATE 14.10
Post by: perknh on July 27, 2015, 05:42:25 pm
Along with Peppermint 6, I'm been following the Mother Ship lately, Ubuntu's Unity 15.04, but the this notice Ubuntu MATE seems significant enough to post.  I wonder if Ubuntu MATE will be going with Mint's Software Center instead of Ubuntu's default Software Center.  :-\

Ubuntu MATE Is Dropping Ubuntu Software Center

from Softpedia

http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-mate-is-dropping-ubuntu-softwarea-center-487808.shtml (http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-mate-is-dropping-ubuntu-softwarea-center-487808.shtml)
Title: Re: Ubuntu MATE 14.10
Post by: PCNetSpec on July 27, 2015, 05:59:10 pm
I'd think there's absolutely ZERO chance of them going with MintInstall, and staying an "official" Ubuntu spin ;)
(theoretically I suppose they could fork it .. but I doubt Daddy Shuttleworth would be happy)

More likely they'll do their own (hopefully, it'll give us another to look at), go with the lighter Lubuntu Software Center, or maybe just go with Synaptic/gdebi the way Gnome 2.x versions of Ubuntu used to.
Title: Re: Ubuntu MATE 14.10
Post by: perknh on July 27, 2015, 06:10:31 pm
Ah, you make a good point.  They are not as free as we are, are they?  I almost took a peek at Lubuntu's 15.04 release, but I remembered having such a miserable experience when I had looked at Manjaro's LXQt release, several months back, that I actually tossed the file for Lubuntu after downloading it.

You know how it goes:  Once bit, twice shy.  :(
Title: Re: Ubuntu MATE 14.10
Post by: PCNetSpec on July 27, 2015, 06:19:23 pm
My guess would be a renamed Lubuntu Software Center (or write their own), as the other options are either from other distros (Deepin/Mint) or have licensing issues (AppGrid).

If you want a look at the lubuntu-software-center you can install it in Peppermint 6 with:
Code: [Select]
sudo apt-get install lubuntu-software-center
should then be ata

menu > System Tools > Lubuntu Software Center
Title: Re: Ubuntu MATE 14.10
Post by: perknh on July 27, 2015, 06:59:59 pm
Thank you, PCNetSpec. 

I've installed it.  But, at first glace, I got to tell you, I like the display of our Software Center in Peppermint 6 better than Lubuntu's.  ;)  That said, it can't hurt to have 3 software centers installed --ours, Synaptic's, and Lubuntu's.

Thanks so much,

perknh