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General Discussion / Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
« on: September 27, 2019, 07:11:15 am »
I find Media Player/XPlayer fine for my DVDs, but I have got 32GB of DDR3 Ram, Quad Core AMD A10 5800K processor on a 2008 ASUS F2A85-V PRO motherboard, plus a Samsung DVD Drive, as my Home Theater Machine, this motherboard has seen a lot of Linux OSES over the years and for streaming this motherboard is superior.
Hello clatterfordslim,

I haven't had a brand new computer since the desktop I built in 2006 for Windows Vista and Microsoft Flight Simulator X and in it's day was awesome and I'm still using it for Microsoft Flight Simulator X.

Most of my computers these days are others discard Windows computers or curb finds which I upgrade from free spare parts I have around or parts purchased from Ebay dirt cheap.

Can't complain though as I don't need much I only web browse and stream Youtube videos and do some Office documents and pull a few pictures from my cell phone and I like to tinker with old computers etc.

Now I know that there are people out there who with their DVD drives just push the tray in with their hands, I've seen them do it and it appalls me to think that they cannot be bothered to push the button, that they originally pushed to open the tray up with to insert their DVD/CD onto the tray in the first place, oh no they push the tray in with their hands and then after a year or two of continuously doing so,
Not all DVD / CD drives have an available push butten to close them because the drive is actually behind the desktops plastic front escutcheon.
Once the drive tray is opened the button is covered by the folded down drive door on the front cover plastic escutcheon so the only way to close the tray is to tap on it.

Ever so happy my wife to be and me, myself and I that I now make sure I'm not in the same room as when she wants to watch a DVD or look at her photo collection on CD through her computer.
we have to redecorate soon because the walls have become so scared, whenever she's pushing in her DVD tray.  ;D
I've been married to the same woman for 47 years and one thing I learned very early on about marriage is I ain't gonna win period.  :P

Whatever she breaks on her laptop I just fix or buy a new one because it's easier then listening to the nagging and believe me about this women (especially wives) know how to nag.  :P


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General Discussion / Re: Try to search got something...
« on: September 26, 2019, 09:18:15 pm »
Wow that's wild.  ???

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General Discussion / Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
« on: September 26, 2019, 03:42:04 pm »
Hello PCNetSpec,


I researched media players and Linux.

I found "Parole Media Player" is designed for Xfce and it's in the repository so I installed it and problem solved.  :o

I'm embarrassed   :-[  for being so stupid   >:(  my apologies to you and the forum for not having done this earlier.


"Parole Media Player".

https://docs.xfce.org/apps/parole/introduction

https://www.computerhope.com/jargon/p/parole-media-player.htm

https://bluesabre.org/2018/03/04/parole-media-player-1-0-0-released/



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General Discussion / Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
« on: September 26, 2019, 01:06:05 pm »
Nope I've tried but can't get this to build in PM10, the patch applies but the nvidia-304 driver then refuses to build properly :(

Seems the best option might be to install PM9 then the patched nvidia-304, then manually upgrade PM9 to PM10 without adding the HWE.
I'm not being negative although I kinda figured it wasn't going to work out as I've just never had good results with Nvidia graphics drivers using Ubuntu 18.04 or Ubuntu 18.04 based / built distros using the old Nvidia graphics cards I have.

I appreciate your time and effort you've put into trying to make it work and and unfortunately some computers and hardware becomes unsupported for the OS being used.

I'll find an AMD / ATI graphics card that will work OOTB and this old box is working good enough for normal computer stuff with no complaints.  :)

Thanks again PCNetSpec.  :)

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General Discussion / Re: Maybe it's just my take on things
« on: September 26, 2019, 11:57:01 am »
the dedication Mark puts in, he was still answering questions at 3am British Time on Wednesday Morning. He deserves an accolade or something, because no matter what the question, he will move heaven and earth to help you.
Thank You Mark. :)

Have a snack or a bite of food and a couple of drinks and go to bed and get some rest / sleep. ;)

I had to look   "accolade" up  ??? because where I live we call it wine / booze / alcohol / beer so I wasn't familiar with this word.

Peppermint OS is just so damn addictive. All the OSES I have installed over the years I have to come back to Peppermint.  ;D
Peppermint is damn hard to beat along with the forum and it's members and Peppermint's team members who devote their time to help us users who can be a PITA at times.  ;D

So a big Thanks to all involved.  :)

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General Discussion / Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
« on: September 25, 2019, 05:00:51 pm »
Hey PCNetSpec,

There's no rush I've other boxes to run DVDs on so at your convenience. 8)

My apologies for being a PITA. :-[

I appreciate all of your help. :)


Thanks again. :)

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General Discussion / Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
« on: September 25, 2019, 02:23:42 pm »
[EDIT]

Hold off on this for a bit whilst I do some more homework, seems there's a dependency issue with 304 in 18.04 (and therefore PM9/10).
https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/nvidia-304-driver-install-in-18-04/16787/13
and
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-304/+bug/1763648

[END EDIT]

OK

Have you tried adding this PPA
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sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppathen seeing if the 304 drivers become available in "Additional Drivers" ?

304 does seem to be available in there for bionic
https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=bionic

I've run this and had the 640X480 resolution.

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General Discussion / Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
« on: September 25, 2019, 12:40:37 pm »
The GeForce Go 7300 require the 304 drivers which are no longer in the repos (support dropped in 2017) .. you'd need to download them directly from nvidia:-

English (US)
https://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/123709

English (GB)
https://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/123846

I can't guarantee if these would compile in Peppermint 9/10 (Ubuntu 18.04) .. but it's where I'd start.
Hello PCNetSpec,

Thanks for the links.

Seems as I remember using the Nvidia 304 driver in Ubuntu  16.04 Xenial Xerus.

I'll have a look and see what all that involves besides patience.  ;D

P10 works on this old beast well OOTB.

It's a drag that Nvidia won't work with the Linux Developers on driver support as AMD / ATI does.


Thanks again.  :)

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General Discussion / Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
« on: September 24, 2019, 09:02:02 pm »
I might not be able to help you out much on the Nvidia front, only to ask did you try installing via Additional Drivers in settings after you added the Graphic Driver PPA?
I went to additional drivers although empty as always.

I can though help you with the drivers needed to watch DVDs out of the box through Media Player/X Player.

I take it you have the drivers already installed? If not here they are

Open Terminal and always add these first or it's what I do after clean install of any Ubuntu Based system.

Code: [Select]
sudo apt install ubuntu-restricted-extrasThese automatically download ttf-mscorefonts
Next we're going to install the necessary drivers for DVDs

Code: [Select]
sudo apt-get install libdvd-pkg
 
Code: [Select]
First time install, click yes both times activate line below.
Code: [Select]
sudo dpkg-reconfigure libdvd-pkg
Always if you're watching a DVD through X-Player have X-player as your default player.

Code: [Select]
menu/settings/Default Applications for LX-Session
Next after inserting all the above codes and setting XPlayer as your default player
Code: [Select]
Reboot SystemA lot of people would argue that you don't need to, but I always do.
Then insert the DVD you wanna watch.
Open
Code: [Select]
Home-FolderOnce film has mounted
Code: [Select]
Left Click Once To Open It
Code: [Select]
Should See Video Audio FoldersOn the right hand side should be a sign saying
Code: [Select]
Open/Launch/Watch With Media Player Or Words To That Affect
Code: [Select]
Left Click That Button And Watch Your Movie
Yep done all of that and DVDs do play it just stutters when it plays.

It's a driver issue an the nouveau driver is ok although not good enough on certain Nvidia graphics cards or Nvidia integrated graphics adapters.

I hate Nvidia even when I was using Windows they were problematic garbage then and still problematic garbage now.

The fact that Nvidia refuses to help out with open source drivers makes me hate them more than I hate Intel who has also stuck it to the consumers who bought their crap products they refuse to support. >:(

340 NVIDIA Drivers have never worked in 18.04 from day one I could never ever get them to work. The 396 Drivers should do as I used to run a low profile Nvidia card on the 396, but even in 18.04 they can be bothersome. I agree with you Nvidia drivers in Linux are a pain in the behind with a pitch fork. Windows has better drivers because of money chucked at Nvidia in the first place from Microsoft. That's why we don't have NVIDIA'S GEFORCE-experience program for Nvidia drivers, that they do in Windows. Nothing is meant to be easy here in Linux, simply because we'll end up being like a proprietary system. I'm glad that we are not like that, there are ways around things.
I've never gotten any Nvidia graphics driver to work in any 18.04 Ubuntu based distro although ruined a few distros trying that's why I know it's hopeless.

I can buy a cheap ATI / AMD graphics card that will work OOTB.

The problem has always been with NVIDIA cards that it needs software to run them,

I agree Nvidia needs to have the proprietary drivers for their graphics cards / integrated graphics adapters.
 
Still before I go I hope to God you don't take this novel of a post the wrong way and my intention was not to sound like you don't know what you're doing or condescending in any way I am just an ordinary Linux User bloke, who loves to try to help if I can[/size].  ;D     
It's always good to read other users points of view and hell you never know I might even learn something new or a better way to do something.

I appreciate your effort in offering to help out and no you didn't offend me and you  were not condescending at all and this is what forums are about is sharing the knowledge. :)

Thanks for your help. :)


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General Discussion / Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
« on: September 24, 2019, 02:45:46 pm »
You didn't mention which nvidia card you have ?
Here's the computer.
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Here's the card.

 NVIDIA G72 [GeForce 7300 LE]

Here's this.
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Tried this.
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Also if you require technical assistance, can you start a new topic with a descriptive title please.
Not to sound negative I haven't had any luck with graphics driver PPAs after Xenial Xerus Ubuntu base distros.

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General Discussion / Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
« on: September 24, 2019, 07:39:27 am »
OK I can't decide which I like best P9 or P10. :-\

I installed P9 on a HP Compaq 2007 desktop and OOTB zero complaints as everything is Intel and old Intel and Linux seem to work well together.

I installed P10 on a HP Pavilion 2006 desktop and OOTB zero complaints and almost everything appears to work.

However when I play a movie DVD using Xplayer it stutters quite a bit.

I was under the impression that the proper Nvidia Proprietary Diver would be installed at installation if I checked the box to install third party drivers which I did.

OK this didn't happen so I figured I'd download and install the PPA for Nvidia which I've tried many times in the past only to be disappointed and again I was disappointed which I expected but I figured what the hell.

OK so from there I decided to download the Nvidia Proprietary Diver through Synaptic Package Manager and it did install however left me with 640x480 resolution so again disappointed.

I did a complete new install of P10 on the HP Pavilion 2006 desktop and accept the fact that the developers don't seem to want to make the proprietary drivers from previous kernels support the new / newer kernels.

I find this to be frustrating because this same 13 year HP Pavilion desktop I can install Windows 10 on and use a Windows Vista graphics driver which installs and runs without problems although isn't supported by Windows 10.

I noticed that new Linux distros don't seem to support some of the needed proprietary drivers which always seemed to be available in recent past Linux distros.

This kinda makes the old Linux motto of "Linux Gives New Life To Old Computers" a thing of the past.

OH well it is what it is and I'm tired of reinstalling my Linux distro trying to make the impossible possible.  :(

Both P9 and P10 work OK on these two old outdated desktops and I can live with the no Nvidia proprietary driver and play DVDs on a different desktop which doesn't need any proprietary driver.

Just another reason to not own any Nvidia products if using Linux.

Please don't misunderstand me, I still think Linux is a good choice although I'm really understanding new Linux users frustration with the lack of driver support.

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Can't change what we have no control over "Progress" and we either move ahead or get left behind nothing lasts forever.

No complaints. :)


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GNU/Linux Discussion / Re: People's dislike for Ubuntu
« on: September 16, 2019, 07:58:26 am »
I've used quite a few different Linux Distros and they all work well on my old desktops.

From the system resource hungry mainstream flagships to the small footprint lightweight Linux Distros.

The only differences I found were resource usage and user interface and one Linux Distro wasn't any better than another Linux Distro.

I can find something wrong with every Linux Distro I've tried or I've used or I'm using now.

Certain Linux Distros work better with certain computers and their hardware and the trick is to match the Linux Distro to the computer and hardware it is going to be installed on and used on.

I install and use OOTB and add very little extras and very rarely have any problems.

If for some reason Ubuntu was to disappear (I doubt that will happen)  I'd migrate to Debian.








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General Discussion / Re: Well.... all.....I left..... :(
« on: September 09, 2019, 07:36:34 am »
Debian / Ubuntu base / built Linux Distros work well on most all computers I've installed it on and yes there are going to be a few quirks here and there depending on the hardware in my experience.

If you're going for the full Debian experience than you must learn the Debian ways and don't expect a lot of help from certain Debian forums because certain Debian forums expect Debian users to learn the basics etc.

I like Debian based / built Linux distros as they are rock solid stable or at least the ones I use are.

All Linux Distros are good learning experience I'm always learning new stuff about Linux.

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General Discussion / Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
« on: September 06, 2019, 02:34:26 am »
Cool. 8)

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