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GNU/Linux Discussion / Re: systemd
« on: April 15, 2020, 04:01:48 pm »
Hello Omen,

Personally I have no complaints with systemd as I install and use Linux distros OOTB as it comes and don't have problems.

MX-19.1 and antiX-19.2 are systemd free and work great.

MX-19.1 for me has been an install and use OOTB zero complaints zero problems.

Antix-19.2 for me has also been an install and use OOTB zero complaints and zero problems.

Antix-19.2 is a no frills small footprint low resource usage Linux distro.

Antix is a hands on Linux distro and the user must learn the antiX ways of doing things so a minor learning curve at first which is easily mastered if a user has the willingness to learn the antiX how to.

I've used both of these Debian based Linux distros since 2015 and are very satisfied with them.

GNU/Linux Discussion / Re: systemd
« on: April 15, 2020, 11:48:28 am »
Apparently I don't seem to understand what the big deal / dislike everyone seems to have about systemd.

One thing I do know is if you can't or don't want to simply choose and use a Linux Distro that ain't got systemd.

Yep I miss the good old days of Windows OSs before the days of Windows 7 / Windows 8 / Windows 10 .

The plan was to install XP first, then immediately download anti-virus software and install it next. However, I never made it that far. As soon as XP was booted, it would instantly get a virus. I lathered, rinsed, and repeated the installation process 3 or 4 times, with the same result(s) -- viruses before I could download a virus protector.

Lesson learned. XP was/is the virus champ!

I never had a problem installing Windows XP on any computer and never had a virus from installing Windows XP  on a computer.

I never had problems with viruses or malware using Windows OSs except for the one time I opened a file I downloaded and BAM I was infected.

The only reason I don't have my Windows XP boxes connected to the internet is because Windows XP is no longer supported.

I know many people use unsupported OSs which just ain't a good idea regardless of what brand OS it is and besides it just ain't smart.

Remember them days very well and glad they're gone in my world.

Clamwiin is good I've used it for many years and now only as a potable every now and then when I have a doubt.

My Windows boxes aren't allowed to be connect to the WWW so anything that gets inside of it is something I let in from a usb thumb drive.

I just like having a Windows XP box available because of all of the cool software I have for Windows OS.

The other reason I like having a Windows XP box is there are certain things Windows OS can do better than Linux.

Yes we have been doing this awhile.  ;D

I started using Linux in early 2014 prior to Windows XP EOL so by the time I started getting into Linux it was quite dveloped and easy to learn and I cut my Linux teeth on Debian Wheezy 7.xx and been a Linux user since.

My first computer experience was on a TRS 80 and it had an 8 inch floppy drive and that was sometime in early 1980s learning how to write machine language.

I learned quickly that wasn't for me and understood why most of those guys were burned out in the head and I definitely did not want to become one of them.  ;D

In early 1990 I went to work for the State Department as a bench tech repairing terminal monitors and computer boards from the mainframes and everything else electronic related.

I remember Windows 2000 Professional and liked it and it worked great and I was sad to see it go however it didn't take long before I liked Windows XP just as much and Redmond seemed to have their act together back in the day.

That's funny "the fuse is lit".  ;D

I use computers from 2009 as I have parted out my old single core computers except for one home build from the early days of Windows XP.

It isn't been used for many years although I do have plans to resurrect it again to the Windows XP computer it was built to run and install all of my Windows XP software on it and use it for when I need to use Windows only software.

My oldest desktop.

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$ inxi -Fxz
System:    Host: antix1 Kernel: 4.4.10-antix.1-486-smp i686 (32 bit gcc: 4.9.3) Desktop: IceWM 1.3.8
           Distro: antiX-16_386-full Berta CŠceres 26 June 2016
Machine:   Mobo: Gigabyte model: GA-K8VM800M (rev 2.x)  Bios: Award v: FD date: 12/07/2005
CPU:       Single core AMD Sempron 2800+ (-UP-) cache: 256 KB
           flags: (lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3) bmips: 3214 speed: 1607 MHz (max)
Graphics:  Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO] bus-ID: 01:00.0
           Display Server: X.Org 1.16.4 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1024x768@60.00hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI R200 (RV280 5960) x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE2 DRI2
           GLX Version: 1.3 Mesa 10.3.2 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card VIA VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller driver: snd_via82xx port: e000 bus-ID: 00:11.5
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.4.10-antix.1-486-smp
Network:   Card-1: ADMtek NC100 Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet 10/100
           driver: tulip v: 1.1.15-NAPI port: b000 bus-ID: 00:0a.0
           IF: eth0 state: unknown speed: N/A duplex: N/A mac: <filter>
           Card-2: VIA VT6102 [Rhine-II] driver: via-rhine port: e400 bus-ID: 00:12.0
           IF: eth1 state: down mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 120.0GB (4.7% used) ID-1: /dev/sda model: MAXTOR_STM312081 size: 120.0GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 108G used: 3.3G (4%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 2.18GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 32.0C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 147 Uptime: 1:50 Memory: 221.0/2017.5MB Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 4.9.2
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.301) inxi: 2.3.0


I prefer old desktop computers to the newfangled desktop computers built these days as old desktop computers were built to last and from my experience do last so no reason to not use what I already have.

I've been building/refurbishing machines since '82.  Only reason I can think of is... bad caps. And, it's a biggie!

You probably already know this, but for the sake of discussion:

You are exactly right.

Bad capacitors on motherboards and in power supplies along with the other issues that come with cheap power supply design which can and do sometimes do take out a working motherboard.

Many, many, many computer components built from 1999-2007 suffered from these 'bad caps'.

I've been doing this stuff so long, I can literally smell 'bad caps'.  Forget the visuals. Bulging/leaky caps have a very distinctive, acrid, and pungent smell -- it's the smell of (electronic) death.

Yes I remember those times and it provided a good income for me who recapped a lot of those motherboards.

We used to purchase brand new unopened motherboards with a complete capacitor kit from manufacturers.

I learned electronics in the days of vacuum tubes and hand wired point to point chassis when electronics was made to be repaired when it did fail and then still used for years afterward.

I can smell bad caps a mile away, so to speak. How about you?


If it wasn't for old computers I wouldn't have any computers to use these days.

I use computers from 2009 as I have parted out my old single core computers except for one home build from the early days of Windows XP.

It isn't been used for many years although I do have plans to resurrect it again to the Windows XP computer it was built to run and install all of my Windows XP software on it and use it for when I need to use Windows only software.

I have at least 25 desktops that were given to me throughout the years setting on a shelf in my shop.

Of that 25 desktops 6 of them are killer gaming computers discarded by hard core gamers who no longer found them usable for gaming.

I use the oem prebuilt desktops for Linux and install small footprint low resource Linux distros on them as my computer everyday computer needs are minimal so they fit the purpose and work great.

I prefer old desktop computers to the newfangled desktop computers built these days as old desktop computers were built to last and from my experience do last so no reason to not use what I already have.

The Wife and I have been retired since 2017 and have zero problems finding something to do around the house.

For us hunkering down at the house isn't that hard for us although we do miss going out to the places we use to frequent regularly with others we know.

Unfortunately we must do what is necessary to stay healthy and get through this Coronavirus pandemic.

The Wife and I try to make the best out of everyday have and pray that a cure comes soon.

Life is good.  :)

Well I'm retired since 2017 and enjoying it so hanging around the house is the norm.

I've been going through boxes of old electronics parts  / old radio chassis / old TV chassis / old test equipment and whatever else.

I have everything loaded in the truck to take out to the farm to be used for a better purpose where it will be blasted full of holes.  ;D

Why do this is you ask.  ???  Simple answer it's a lot of fun.  ;D


I haven't been able to sell any of it.  :(
I haven't been able to give any of it away.  :(
I'm unwilling to put forth anymore effort to find useful outlets to repurposed it.  ???  :o  :(

I also have scrapped out around twenty old desktops and laptops and they will also be going out to the farm to be blasted full of holes.  ;D


I set up my reloading equipment and reloaded quite a pile of 357 magnum rounds and 38 special rounds so I can go out to the farm and do some shooting.  :)  ;D  8)

The Wife and I enjoy shooting firearms.  :)

So that's kinda what we've been doing to try and make the best out of this situation.  :)

Life is good.  ;)

Yep I saw that on the news last night and it makes good sense. :)

General Discussion / Re: migrate Linux Mint panel add in to Peppermint
« on: January 05, 2020, 11:18:01 am »
Peppermint is Linux Mint painted red so this must be doable.

Perhaps this explains what Peppermint is.

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I was adamant on using the same distro for everything, until I learned about how Peppermint OS was ďFrankensteinedĒ

Linux is all about choice. Itís modular. Like the Borg, it adapts to any situation. So why try to force a square peg into a round hole? Peppermint CEO Mark Greaves cherry-picked the best elements of the LXDE, Xfce and Cinnamon desktop environments! He used both the Mint and GNOME software centers. Multiple package managers.

On paper, Peppermint OS should be a disaster, but itís brilliant Itís just not the ideal distribution for one of my machines (without putting some serious effort in, anyway).

Thatís when it all came into focus. I use Linux because Windows users donít have this kind of flexibility. You want a version of Windows 10 that runs like a dream on your crappy dual-core laptop with 4GB of RAM? Sorry, not an option.

The above from this article.


General Discussion / Re: I have a new toy to play with
« on: January 04, 2020, 04:57:09 pm »
i guess I did OK then since this was the first build project I did all by myself with no help

Yes you did A-OK and the more you do the better you become. (practice makes the master)

About the kernel, I have decided not to "mainline" the kernel since that sounds like drug abuse to me, lol, but more because I like the idea of using the 4.15 kernel that comes with long term support and Im always told constantly, "If it aint broke, DON'T fix it"

I prefer the LTS kernel over the HWE short term stack kernels as the LTS kernel seems to work better with the old Frankenstein builds I'm using.

the thing works pretty good for what it is.

Check ebay in the far back pages for laptop memory I find it dirt cheap and I'm talking for $5.00 to $10.00 a stick just depends on what it is.

Bottom line if it is working decent than use it as it is. :)

General Discussion / Re: I have a new toy to play with
« on: January 03, 2020, 09:33:08 pm »
These are the specs i can give and am looking for any advice for how i can do any better with this, although I think I did pretty good.

If it runs decent than I suggest use it as it is.

I know this thing should be in a museum but i found it fun to play with. I was 5 yrs old when this thing was brand new.

Just because something is old doesn't mean it ain't still useful or capable and the old saying Linux gives new life to old hardware is still true.

I am open to all suggestions.

If you can run across some memory for dirt cheap or free and increase it to 4.0 GB that would help.

My "heat" is at 63c right now. And the battery is a suprise, It is original battery and reports, Fully Charged Design 48.8 Wh, and Fully Charged aslo at 48.8 Wh (100%)

That temp ain't hot at all for a laptop and that's great that the battery charges and works I've never been that fortunate with my gifted laptops.

General Discussion / Re: I have a new toy to play with
« on: January 03, 2020, 09:08:38 pm »
Hello The Omen,

I'm not meaning to hijack your thread it just seemed the right place to post so hope you don't mind. :-\  :)

It must be the time for giving. :)
I was gifted an old desktop computer which I immediately took apart and gave it a good dusting with my air hose.

Then I replaced the Intel Pentium 4 661 (3.6 GHz) Cedar Mill processor with an Intel Core2 Duo E4400 (2.0 GHz) Conroe processor.
An Nvidia GeForce 8500 GT [G86] graphics card replaced the Nvidia 6150 integrated graphics adapter.

Increased memory from 2.0 GB DDR2 to 4.0 GB DDR2 and used the 160 GB hard drive that appears to be original.

All new replacement parts were free from my spare parts box so zero cost other than my time which I've plenty of. :)

Put it all back together and installed Peppermint 9 Respin-2 (64 bit) and updated it and then installed a few bits of software and then did a few performance tweaks and here I am and it runs great. :)

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thomas@hp-pavilion ~ $ systemd-analyze
Startup finished in 5.589s (kernel) + 29.649s (userspace) = 35.238s reached after 29.635s in userspace
thomas@hp-pavilion ~ $


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thomas@hp-pavilion ~ $ inxi -Fxz
System:    Host: hp-pavilion Kernel: 4.15.0-72-generic x86_64 bits: 64 gcc: 7.4.0 Desktop: N/A
           Distro: Peppermint Nine
Machine:   Device: desktop System: HP-Pavilion product: GG750AV-ABA a6100y serial: N/A
           Mobo: ASUSTeK model: Lancaster v: 1.xx serial: N/A BIOS: American Megatrends v: 5.19 date: 03/04/2008
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core2 4400 (-MCP-) arch: Conroe rev.2 cache: 2048 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 ssse3) bmips: 8000
           clock speeds: max: 2000 MHz 1: 1200 MHz 2: 1219 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA G86 [GeForce 8500 GT] bus-ID: 04:00.0
           Display Server: x11 (X.Org 1.19.6 ) drivers: nouveau (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1152x720@59.97hz
           OpenGL: renderer: NV86 version: 3.3 Mesa 19.0.8 Direct Render: Yes
Audio:     Card Intel NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.15.0-72-generic
Network:   Card: Realtek RTL810xE PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller
           driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: d800 bus-ID: 02:00.0
           IF: enp2s0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 160.0GB (5.7% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: ST3160815AS size: 160.0GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 146G used: 8.5G (7%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 37.0C mobo: N/A gpu: 51.0
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 158 Uptime: 7:37 Memory: 438.0/3253.3MB Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 7.4.0
           Client: Shell (bash 4.4.201) inxi: 2.3.56
thomas@hp-pavilion ~ $


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