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New Users / Re: Is there a way to update PM 8 to PM 9 from PM8?
« on: February 06, 2019, 04:56:52 pm »
Okay the first question to answer would be  - Does a Peppermint 9 LiveUSB work if created with the "USB Image Writer" tool in Peppermint 8 ?

I will do the above experiment.

Can you say what kernel regression is and is that likely  to create a situation where it would allow PM 8 to produce a live ISO with persistence but not PM9?
Just interested.

New Users / Re: Is there a way to update PM 8 to PM 9 from PM8?
« on: February 06, 2019, 04:52:15 pm »

Here's what I do, when beta testing a new Peppermint release - sounds like it will satisfy your needs, too  :)

I make a live ISO without persistence, e.g. a normal installation USB stick.

Then I use the live ISO to make a full install to a second USB stick.

The nice thing about the live ISO is, I can play around to my heart's content, and everything goes back to default on the next boot.

And, the beauty of the second USB is, it's a full install - on a USB stick, instead of a SSD/HDD. This second USB stick preserves my settings, just like a normal install to a hard drive. The only difference is, it's a little slower when  booting, and opening apps.

Make sense?

Like all good ideas - its easy when explained. I'll  give it a try. Thanks for the tip.

New Users / Re: Is there a way to update PM 8 to PM 9 from PM8?
« on: February 06, 2019, 10:58:25 am »
Yes - I can use a live ISO without the persistence to install PM9.

But I would prefer to try out PM 9 for a while before installing to make sure it suits my hardware.
I would like to know what are the real differences between PM8 (which I find good) and PM9.
It would be easier to preserve my settings - but I think I can manage without. Just easier with.

inxi- Fz


System:    Host: peppermint Kernel: 4.8.0-53-generic x86_64 (64 bit)
           Desktop: N/A Distro: Peppermint Eight
Machine:   Mobo: Micro-Star model: MS-16J9 v: REV:1.0
           Bios: American Megatrends v: E16J9IMS.307 date: 11/07/2016
CPU:       Quad core Intel Core i5-7300HQ (-MCP-) cache: 6144 KB
           clock speeds: max: 3500 MHz 1: 799 MHz 2: 800 MHz 3: 800 MHz
           4: 799 MHz
Graphics:  Card-1: Intel Device 591b
           Card-2: NVIDIA Device 1c8d
           Display Server: X.Org 1.18.4 drivers: (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1360x768@59.80hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Kabylake GT2
           GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 17.0.2
Audio:     Card Intel Device a171 driver: snd_hda_intel
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.8.0-53-generic
Network:   Card-1: Intel Device 24fb driver: iwlwifi
           IF: wlp2s0 state: up speed: N/A duplex: N/A mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Qualcomm Atheros Device e0b1 driver: alx
           IF: enp3s0 state: down mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 1136.3GB (0.3% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: TOSHIBA_THNSNJ12 size: 128.0GB
           ID-2: /dev/sdb model: HGST_HTS721010A9 size: 1000.2GB
           ID-3: USB /dev/sdc model: DataTraveler_2.0 size: 8.0GB
Partition: ID-1: swap-1 size: 1.04GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/zram0
           ID-2: swap-2 size: 1.04GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/zram1
           ID-3: swap-3 size: 1.04GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/zram2
           ID-4: swap-4 size: 1.04GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/zram3
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 49.0C mobo: 27.8C
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 223 Uptime: 22:23 Memory: 3209.5/7900.0MB

New Users / Re: Is there a way to update PM 8 to PM 9 from PM8?
« on: February 05, 2019, 07:08:40 pm »
Thanks for the replies.

To produce a live ISO with persistence I have tried different data sticks, different PC's and different live ISO creator software (Live Linux, Unetbootin, Yumi and Mkusb).

All seem to stall at 'starting up'. Peppermint 8 works using the exact same techniques.

Something changed in the PM9 software?

New Users / Is there a way to update PM 8 to PM 9 from PM8? (SOLVED)
« on: February 05, 2019, 12:34:37 pm »
I cannot produce a PM9 live ISO. Is there a way to upgrade PM8 to PM9 from within PM8. Or is the only way to get PM9 to download directly? (SOLVED)

Advanced Topics / Re: installing using gparted
« on: February 02, 2019, 07:22:01 pm »
I will look into windows shrinking the partitions.

I have just discovered my PM8 live ISO with persistence did not preserve my set up when I logged out and logged back in? 

On checking I have a casper -rw item (2.2GB)  located at "/".

This is the correct allocation. Its permission show:

Owner root     r w

Group      read only

access      read only

Is this where the problem lies?  How can I ensure persistence?

Advanced Topics / Re: installing using gparted
« on: February 02, 2019, 05:07:51 pm »
Thanks for how to post images.

I have worked out the problem with Gparted. Greyed out menus were due to target disks being mounted. When unmounted the targets can be adjusted.

How I want to partition looks fairly straight forward after having a little play with Gparted. I will backup w10 before actual partitioning I understand W10 sometimes does not like its partition being shrunk.

I am grateful for the tutorial on creating a data partition. I am thinking of a partition plan thus: / root partition on SSD. A swap partition on HDD and a home partition also there to hold my personal files and data.

I am a bit confused therefore about the difference between a data and home partition as they seem to fulfil the same purpose.
Also not sure about mount points and how this affects PM8 and Windows being able to interchange files and folders without problems.

Advanced Topics / Re: installing using gparted
« on: February 02, 2019, 09:48:39 am »
Thanks for the replies:

Tried PM 8 because I could not get PM 9 to load to my MSI hardware from Live ISO. I had to try various USBs with an old W7 OS to get PM 8 to load

sudo Gparted launches the GUI but the menus are greyed out.

gparted-pkexec produces the same.

I have noticed a small key symbol on the basic data partition (ie the SSD). Maybe that is locking it?

Is it possible to post a screenshot of this on the thread?

Advanced Topics / installing using gparted
« on: February 02, 2019, 08:06:37 am »
This may not be in the right section, please advise and I will relocate. I am new to Linux.

I am trying to install PM8 onto my SSD using the 'something else' method. I have PM 8  live on a usb running well. I have a ssd with windows 10 and a Hdd for data. 114 GB and 1 TB respectively.

There are no passwords on the live usb (I assume root has none either and can be accessed by sudo?)

I have not partitioned before so I am trying to get some advice. I have read quite a lot around it and am reasonably confident in partition allocation etc. But I have some basic issues though.

I am trying to use Gparted as provided in PM8. I cannot get GP to work (greyed out menus) and it says I need root privileges.

If I partition using GParted I am concerned that my new partitions will only be root accessible and not myself as user - due to install from Gparted and live ISO? I would like to be able to access partitions and  transer all files from windows and Linux and vice versa without permission problems post partition.

I realise there is a lot in the above but any guidance would be helpful.

Installation / Re: Also stuck at starting up
« on: January 28, 2019, 12:29:59 pm »
Many thanks to both contributors for your help. One final question. On the live PM 7 OS it shows drive 'D'  (my HDD data drive) to be not readable/unmounted. If I install PM7 will this become readable and also will data become swapable between  PM7 on the  SSD and  the HDD?

Installation / Re: Also stuck at starting up
« on: January 28, 2019, 10:23:22 am »
Sorry I am not clear in my thinking. If I use PM 7 (seems fine to me) and install. Can I then update in PM 7 to 8 or 9 and retain all my files? I am not clear about the difference between update and upgrade - if any at all?  I seem to remember one retains data and the other doesn't.

Also at a later date if I install PM 10 would it be a simple matter to retain my data. maybe the same question as above.

Regarding the wifi - there does not seem to be a menu showing my wi-fi so I assume one has to set it up from scratch?  I can use a cable and link into my router if necessary. Is this the normal with PM7? Seems a bit primitive?

I have just noticed there is an edit menu for wi fi:

it requires 

Can you advise on the above settings? I may get some from the broadband supplier.

DO I need to adjust the IPV settings?

Installation / Re: Also stuck at starting up
« on: January 28, 2019, 09:59:11 am »
PM 7 live ISO worked. So two questions?

Networking seems turned off? So no menu for linking to my wi fi?

Can I now upgrade to a live PM 8 or 9 whilst in live os 7.

Or would I have to install fully and would Live OS 7 give me the option to upgrade to 8 or 9?

Installation / Re: Also stuck at starting up
« on: January 28, 2019, 09:27:22 am »
Well, new for me :D.

I installed PM 8 on dual boot  with xp for my old samsung notebook 140. It has worked so well that I now want to do the following:

 I want to remove w10 from my newish MSI GP62 7RD and replace with PM.
It has a  SSD and HDD. W10 is on the SSD and I want PM to replace it completely. Eventually, It would be very good if I can get PM working across all my hardware.

Hope this helps explain a little what I am trying to do.

Do you have a link for that Xubuntu download?

(Just tried USB image writer to create live  PM 9 OS and unfortunately continues to stick at starting up).

Installation / Re: Also stuck at starting up
« on: January 28, 2019, 08:54:45 am »
Many thanks for that. I am trying a different usb creator. (Might as well try easy things first). It will be no trouble to try PM 7 and the different kernel. I will report back. My gut feeling is the live OS is confused by the two drives on my new machine (SSD and HDD)?  But no evidence for that. On other machines (without two drives) the live OS seems to work seemlessly  for me.

Installation / Also stuck at starting up
« on: January 28, 2019, 06:46:48 am »
Using both PM8 and 9. Live USB. Loading is fine from USB up until starting up. Then hangs. No escape when escape is pressed.

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