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Software & Applications / Re: What are issues using Openbox with P5
« on: June 30, 2014, 03:09:37 pm »
If you want to use Openbox as the default window manager for LXDE, then you can open "Default Applications for LXSession" in the "Preferences" menu, click on the "Core Applications" tab on the left and change the window manager line from "xfwm4" to "openbox". Then log out and log in.

News and Reviews / Re: How an Idiot reviews a Distro.
« on: June 30, 2014, 03:05:30 pm »
People are welcome to their opinions but spreading misinformation is generally where I cross the line and will say something. In his initial "review" he claims that the Peppermint Control Center and LXAppearance are the same thing when in fact they share exactly zero functionality. I encourage constructive criticism of Peppermint, but not even getting such basic information correct is a bit laughable. Oh well.

Hardware / Re: Screen Issues
« on: June 28, 2014, 12:46:58 pm »
My first thought would be the refresh rate. Go to Menu -> Preferences -> Monitor Settings and see if there are any options with the same resolution but a different refresh rate.

New Users / Re: Peppermint 5 Does Not Detect Windows 7
« on: June 28, 2014, 12:43:31 pm »
I'm sorry to hear that it didn't work out. What should have happened is the 32 bit ISO should have recognized Win7, created a partition, and installed itself and then the 64 bit should have recognized the 32 bit partition, but only if you selected the manually construct the partition table with the installer.

Anyway, no need to purchase a Win7 disk as the ISO files are freely available to download:

You don't even technically need a product key to use them, but if you don't put one in within 30 days of installing, it gets really annoying.

GNU/Linux Discussion / Re: Peppermint and my Dell 3000
« on: June 28, 2014, 11:39:00 am »
Thanks for the kind words. We do try very hard to make as good of a distro as we can.

BTW, I've moved this to the GNU/Linux Discussion board as it's not a support inquiry.


Software & Applications / Re: Problem with Docky
« on: June 28, 2014, 02:03:34 am »
One last thing- do you know if those commands work the same way in Arch-based distributions?

POSIX-compliant operating systems are all compatible with each other regardless of who put together which command. GNU/Linux is POSIX compliant so anything you use based on GNU/Linux "should" be POSIX compliant.

New Users / Re: Run Peppermint 5 on a live USB on a Mac?
« on: June 28, 2014, 01:59:30 am »
Honestly I wish I could say. Regardless, hopefully someone with more experience in the matter will step in during the next day or so.

Installation / Re: ap-hotspot not working, worked in P4
« on: June 28, 2014, 01:18:29 am »
This is a make or break issue for me. If P5 can't make my wireless card's driver work properly, I'm switching to another OS. My pregnant wife depends on this wifi connection. I thought we were past the stage where linux is synonymous with tinkering and unending bug reports, but apparently I was wrong.

And I don't blame you if you do go to another OS. We try to offer a good product for a large number of people, but there are occasionally issues that we either haven't worked through yet, or don't have the resources to work though. No OS can be all things to all people and threatening to leave one for another isn't going to change that. No OS will ever be synonymous with "no tinkering and no bug reports" but it doesn't mean that we won't try, and us trying doesn't mean that we're always going to succeed. One of the many lessons associated with building an OS is learning that no matter what you try, you can't do everything. Peppermint is not the ideal solution to everything and we know this. Your comment about "we" and being "past the stage where Linux is synonymous with tinkering and unending bug reports" is not doing anything to help anyone's situation, specifically your own.

That being said, there may be other solutions to your issue or there may be information that we haven't quite gotten a hold of yet. Regardless of whether you stay with Peppermint or not, we would still like to find a solution to your issue because your issue might affect others. If you do move to another OS and find a workable solution I would greatly appreciate you contributing that information to our community in some capacity. Likewise if we find a solution, we're going to post it regardless of whether or not there are future responses to this topic.

In your personal situation it pays to bear in mind that the majority of the people answering your questions are volunteering their time and experience to try and help you. They're not help desk employees nor do they get a bonus if they clear more of the queue than someone else. They're volunteers. I really hate to say this but a little respect goes a long way. The team we've put together here is actually very good at figuring out problems and very good at sharing when they do. No, we don't figure out everything, but we certainly do try. Please try and keep this in mind in the future.

Software & Applications / Re: Problem with Docky
« on: June 28, 2014, 12:45:27 am »
Thanks for the reply and for the link, I appreciate it. However, that just raises more questions. How do I create a file and give it root access? And, once that is done, how do I make it executable?

Creating a file is quite simple actually. Either "touch" a file or opt to open a nonexistent file with a text editor and save it and it will then exist. For example:

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touch file

will create a file called "file" in the current directory.

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nano file

will create a file called "file" in the current directory as long as you opt to save it before you're done.

And then there is the option of root access. To enable root access you simply assign root privileges before you create the file:

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sudo touch file

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sudo nano file

Additionally adding executable privileges is a simple matter of assigning one flag. How you go about doing so depends on whether or not it's a "root" privileged file or not:

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chmod +x file

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sudo chmod +x file

New Users / Re: Screen Blanking
« on: June 27, 2014, 06:06:55 pm »
Just curious. What are the power manager preferences set to?

GNU/Linux Discussion / Re: Package Source Discussion
« on: June 27, 2014, 05:49:58 pm »
Thanks for moving the discussion, Kendall. As mentioned earlier, I'm new to the forum and did not realize I was going off topic. Thanks for your patience and indulgence.
The "Support" boards are for specific support questions, not for general discussion. If a support question veers a little off topic and a discussion ensues, then fine, but if something is posed as a discussion from the get go, then it needs to be posted in the "General" boards.

PCNetSpec, I say again that it was not my intention to offend or be argumentative, and I apologize if I came off that way.
From a psychological and sociological standpoint, one of the most effective ways to offend one or more people is to start by saying that it's not your intention to do so. In some cultures and communities this is obviously more apparent than others and regardless of the intended outcome, it's something to keep in mind.

I don't think the question of whether a particularly methodology should be described as "correct" or "incorrect" is a meaningless semantic argument at all, and I think it's particularly important when presenting information to beginners.
One thing that we try and do with support inquiries is to try and provide the most consistent information possible. Regarding the methods we recommend users go about doing things, we try to keep consistency of information as one of the foremost factors. In the seemingly endless struggle to distill information into the most clear and concise, there is inevitably the polarization of grey areas to one side or the other. Presenting information with the binary classification of either "Right" or "Wrong" (or some other binary metric: yes/no, true/false, correct/incorrect, fat/skinny, old-and-busted/new-hotness, etc) is logically the most simple that one can simplify a decision making process into. Part of what we do here is try to eliminate confusion for users who may not have the knowledge or experience to understand the viability of an alternative solution so when we can distill the process to correct/incorrect or recommended/not-recommended or something else, we try to do so.

The mainstream, closed-source, corporate world of software (and hardware) is based on the premise that there is a "right" (company-approved) way of doing things and that every other way -- whether it works or not, whether it provides a better solution or not -- is "incorrect." If you want features, you need to pay for them, and they're only available in one color and flavor. If you develop a solution that provides a better solution without the pay, the company will void your warranty or block the installation. And in that world, "hack" is a dirty word.

In the Linux world, where "hack" can be a badge of honor, beginners arriving from the Windows world are well-trained in this corporate mindset, and they tend to view any original solution as a forbidden and evil transgression. In my view, when a user posts a solution in a Linux forum and says that it has worked for him, it's perfectly fine for someone else to comment on the risks inherent in that solution, but I don't think it's productive to tell a beginner that there is one "CORRECT" way to do things. I think this can encourage the one-right-way mentality that the beginner has already brought with him from the Windows world.
This is a very altruistic mindset that has a few disadvantages when trying to run a support forum. Let me try to explain: We're not trying to change the way a user looks at the larger software world when we give an answer to how to install an application. Rather we're trying to explain how to install the application in the clearest and simplest manner possible that is consistent with the rest of our information. We're aware that a lot of people that use Peppermint are coming from a Windows background and often it's simpler for all parties for us to just offer a "correct" solution that solves the problem rather than try to explain the open source mentality associated with there being multiple solutions for people to explore. In my experience, the majority of users couldn't care less about the philosophy behind the software so long as they can accomplish what they want with it. Additionally, offering multiple solutions with a discussion of the pros and cons within a support thread is inefficient and potentially confusing for a lot of people, especially someone who just wanted a simple answer. Discussion about preferred methods is a good thing and something that needs to happen on a regular basis, but not at the expense of added confusion within the answers to a support question.

I think new users should be encouraged to experiment responsibly, not to fear experimentation.
Again, this comes down to what we're actually trying to accomplish on a "Support" board versus discussion that should be happening elsewhere. Clear, efficient, and consistent communication is what we go for in that area. Additionally I can't say that I agree with the statement that new users should be encouraged to experiment responsibly because that assumes certain things about the user and kind of imposes a certain thought process. Rather I think users should be encouraged to educate themselves about the software that they use and be offered assistance and encouragement if/when they decide for themselves that they want to become more experimental with it.

Incidentally, shouldn't my posting regarding the new features in Skype 4.3 go back in the Software forum? It's in response to a question about Skype.
If it were a specific support question or a response to one then yes, but this discussion really isn't about Skype so much as it is about the philosophies governing how Peppermint's support forums are managed. Support questions and answers go in the support boards, discussions about philosophies go here.

[EDIT]: I misspelled something.

We actually did add this back in Peppermint Five, just not in the "Tools" menu. If you right-click on any folder in the file manager (or on the desktop), you should see an option in the right-click menu to "Open as Root". That option is close to the bottom.

New Users / Re: Dragging windows across desktops.
« on: June 27, 2014, 03:16:13 pm »
The "Wrap workspaces" options should be in the Control Center somewhere.

GNU/Linux Discussion / Re: Package Source Discussion
« on: June 27, 2014, 02:03:53 pm »
Because this is intended as a discussion rather than asking a support question, I moved it to the correct board.

Software & Applications / MOVED: Package Source Discussion
« on: June 27, 2014, 02:02:50 pm »

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