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I played around with their LMDE up8 and It is a shame they can't come up with a better installer for it, that is about the only drawback I can see to their Debian edition.... I had to manually partition the drive a month of sundays to get it right, so much easier the way the ubuntu based systems install...

This is another major reason for staying on the Ubuntu base. Ubuntu's "Ubiquity" installer is flat out amazing compared to most of what else is available, at least when it comes to general user friendliness. Advanced users may have differing tastes, and rightly so, but for most everyone else Ubiquity is essentially the pinnacle of Linux installation software available right now. A rather large concern of mine if Peppermint ever changes base is how to approach the installer issue. I would rather revert to a rebranded Debian installer than use Mint's solution, even if it means sacrificing the live session (though this would eliminate the need for AUFS support in the kernel, which I suppose is nice but whatever).

General Discussion / Re: Peppermint 5
« on: March 25, 2014, 08:05:51 am »
I'm not going to put the Peppermint logo in GRUB for two reasons:

  • I don't want to impose Peppermint branding in an environment where I feel we should be respectful of other operating systems.
  • I don't want the Peppermint logo to persist into the boot process of other Linux distros exhibiting the same issue.

I'm not against the idea of branding GRUB in and of itself, just by default. If one of the mods wants to put a tutorial in the relevant section or if someone else wants to submit one, then by all means do so.

General Discussion / Re: Welcome to the new Forum!
« on: March 25, 2014, 06:30:34 am »
The old forum isn't going anywhere so those numbers are safe.  Yes?  No?   :)
Correct. The old forum will be switched to "read only" and left in place as a reference.

...and then there's launchpad and PPA's
This. Right. Here.

I wish there were words that could adequately explain how much simpler my life is because of Launchpad and the PPA system. For those who don't know about Launchpad, it's a web platform for building and publishing software packages that not only gives a user however many repositories he/she wants, but it also builds and signs the packages for the user in a clean chroot. In addition it tracks package versions and revisions, lets you easily copy packages back and forth between repos, handles bug tracking, and a million other things. It really is a brilliant platform. The only other thing in existence that might come close to comparing to it is the AUR, but even that requires a ton of work in comparison.

Anyway, Ubuntu certainly does add a lot of polish compared to Debian, but the differences for LXDE users who don't primarily work from a terminal are much smaller than they are for other desktops as the LXDE components (excepting PCManFM) are quite stable, rarely update, and have been working like a charm pretty much everywhere for what seems like ages at this point. The biggest thing that Canonical brings to the table is application support. Pretty much everyone writing desktop Linux applications is making sure that Ubuntu is well supported because not doing so means that the potential user base shrinks dramatically. Also if a new version of something comes out, there's probably going to be a PPA for it. You could probably keep an LTS system up to date for quite some time using PPAs if you wanted to.

General Discussion / Re: Forum look and feel.
« on: March 25, 2014, 05:32:40 am »
Alright, the quick buttons for quote, modify, etc should no longer be pushing up against the edge.

BTW, I'm short on time, so I'll just ask here... Is there a way to turn on 'multi-quoting' on SMF?  Or, am I just overlooking a button?

I'm really not sure. Perhaps PCNetSpec will offer some insight as he knows this thing WAY better than I do.

Ultimately I think Canonical's request for Mint to agree to licensing terms means that they know Mint has become a far more major contender for desktop market share than they're willing to publicly admit. It was stated that the licensing terms were mostly meant to prevent Mint from competing in front of some "commercial partners" which could mean many things. I'm of the opinion that Canonical doesn't want Mint to see major hardware deals from PC manufacturers but it could also mean stipulations regarding a number of other things (server editions, paid enterprise support, etc).

Regardless, if Mint does elect to stay on the LTS code base, it'll be very interesting to see how it turns out and what it'll end up meaning for Peppermint in the long term. I have a lot of respect for Mint's ways of doing things but a major part of why Peppermint exists is because Mint's ways of doing things are not my preferred ways of doing things. I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens. Come October, we should have a pretty good idea of how Mint is going to proceed and we should have access to plenty of feedback by the time Peppermint Six rolls around.

Also, though I'm not particularly fond of the idea of basing Peppermint on something else, I'm also not above thinking that doing so might be the best course of action for the future of the project should certain events unfold in the near future.

General Discussion / Re: Welcome to the new Forum!
« on: March 25, 2014, 04:20:03 am »
i went back to the old forum and discovered i'd made 652 posts there... too bad we can't import those numbers ;~)
I briefly looked for a simple way to import user accounts but it ended up being more hassle and effort than I really cared to contribute. Not trying to be lazy or anything, I just have a lot of things going on. Anyway, it required exporting the database, truncating a ton of tables, scrubbing out the spam accounts, and a bunch more stuff. Ultimately I figured it would be better in the long run to just leave everything.

General Discussion / Re: What font is used in the Logo?
« on: March 25, 2014, 04:14:38 am »
Don't they just magically appear on the internet and you download them when you need them?  ;D
Hehehe... As far as I'm typically concerned, yes.

General Discussion / Re: Forum look and feel.
« on: March 25, 2014, 04:11:55 am »
Alright, I see the button group that is smushed to the right a bit. I'll get on that.

And yes, color varies dramatically between monitors. On my desktop where I do my photo processing, I have two IPS display LG monitors and I have to use an external color calibrator once a month in order to keep them not just accurate between each other, but as close to actual color as possible. This is a huge deal when doing any sort of photo printing. Most notably almost all monitors (at least the reasonably priced ones) have the color temperature set too cool by default. I should probably see if there's any support for that color calibrator in Linux. The only time I ever boot my desktop into Linux is to play Minecraft as it's otherwise a dedicated photo processing machine (i.e. lots of Adobe, DxO, and Topaz Labs software).

General Discussion / Re: Forum look and feel.
« on: March 24, 2014, 09:08:28 am »
I think I've got the buttons about to where they should be. Let me know if there are any other hurdles.

General Discussion / Re: Forum look and feel.
« on: March 24, 2014, 08:52:18 am »
I'm working on the buttons. I had an 11:00 meeting so I didn't quite get everything done as soon as I'd hoped. Also, I think whoever did the CSS for the buttons may have been drunk or something when they wrote it.

General Discussion / Forum look and feel.
« on: March 24, 2014, 07:29:29 am »
Per a few requests I've started messing with the forum CSS ("cascading style sheets" for those who don't know) in order to make it less harsh on the eyes. It was previously quite bright so I've tried to tone it down a notch. Please give me some feedback and let me know if there are any elements that need fixing. For example, some of the buttons don't show up as well right now so I'm going to work on those next.

General Discussion / Re: Peppermint 5
« on: March 24, 2014, 07:04:42 am »
Since this isn't really a support topic, I'm marking it as such.

New Users / Re: Log Off Button Off
« on: March 24, 2014, 07:03:22 am »
I (or one of the other team members) need to get back with you with the specifics as I'm not in front of a Peppermint machine at the moment, but the application is called peppermint-logout and is set to not display by default, thus making it a bit difficult to add it back to the menu if it gets deleted. If you add a launcher for another application, you can edit the panel configuration manually and get it back. More details (hopefully) soon.

General Discussion / Re: What font is used in the Logo?
« on: March 24, 2014, 07:00:31 am »
Also, the "t" has been modified to come straight down. Earlier versions of the logo have the "t" with a curve at the bottom.

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