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Installation / Re: "elf magic" grub message
« on: April 05, 2017, 08:36:01 am »
Hi rickc, How's it going?  For future reference, could you please remember to encapsulate terminal outputs with the Insert, Code # function.  For extra long outputs, please use the Spoiler, Sp function.  Chromium Browser and Google Chrome users, please don't combine the functions.  Only use one or the other  ;).  These preserve the original format of the output.  This makes it easier for future visitors to relate to their own issues.  These functions are found in the forum editor, above the,  :-[ Embarrassed and  the :'( Cry emoticon respectively.  Use the Preview button to see how it'll look in the forum.  This time, I've done it for you - many thanks  ;).

Cheers Andy, will do

Installation / Re: "elf magic" grub message
« on: April 05, 2017, 08:33:21 am »
Here's the thing, GRUB is probably getting confused by your BIOS on one hand being UEFI but being configured for legacy mode.

It seems your PC was probably made in the early days when hardware manufacturers were making their hardware ready for Win8 but still installing Win7 and the UEFI standards were not really nailed down yet.

It would be probably be possible to enable UEFI and remove this confusion, but it would require you wipe the drive and start again (including reinstalling Windows).

Do you want to do this ?

Yeah, think this was made in early 2012

So long as my trusty usb boot repair will fix the boot following grub updates, I doubt I can be bothered to do more.  Of course, if I  manage to break my os then I would...

What would I need to do? Is it just a case of wiping with gparted, switching to eufi then reinstall peppermint?  Would I need to first install windows?

I am also thinking my local pc shop may have caused this as they installed w7 in legacy mode - when there was no good reason to do so as far as I can see


Installation / Re: "elf magic" grub message
« on: April 05, 2017, 03:23:49 am »
If you look here

does your BIOS screen look similar ?

If so, does "Secureboot" become visible if you disable legacy mode ?

Which OS did this PC come with ?

Did you repartition the drive ? .. including creating a new partition table ?

The thing that's baffling me (if you haven't manually chang the partition table) is if your BIOS mentions Legacy boot, that would normally mean UEFI is an option (?) and if it is, you'd normally have a GPT partition table, yet you haven't :-\

The laptop originally shipped with W7 and was installed on a 340gb HD

I created an 80gb partition for linux, then decided to buy a SSD.   I extended the partition back to w7 only via w7. My local PC shop cloned the w7 os onto the new SSD

There is no option for secure boot, my bios is much simpler than the one you've shown

I was unable to boot into w7 unless I was in legacy mode, ie UEFI wouldn't boot windows

I was unable to dual boot - even with boot-repair it was impossible to boot into linux

I then used the "wipe all" install and was able to boot after using boot repair. I did not create a partition table


Installation / Re: "elf magic" grub message
« on: April 04, 2017, 02:14:42 pm »
The bios are set to legacy mode. There is no secure boot option

Bit surprised to see an "extended" partition plus swap.  I didn't create them

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rick@rick-Latitude-E5510 ~ $ dpkg -l | grep grub
ii  grub-common                                   2.02~beta2-36ubuntu3.9                     amd64        GRand Unified Bootloader (common files)
ii  grub-gfxpayload-lists                         0.7                                        amd64        GRUB gfxpayload blacklist
ii  grub-pc                                       2.02~beta2-36ubuntu3.9                     amd64        GRand Unified Bootloader, version 2 (PC/BIOS version)
ii  grub-pc-bin                                   2.02~beta2-36ubuntu3.9                     amd64        GRand Unified Bootloader, version 2 (PC/BIOS binaries)
ii  grub2-common                                  2.02~beta2-36ubuntu3.9                     amd64        GRand Unified Bootloader (common files for version 2)
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rick@rick-Latitude-E5510 ~ $ sudo fdisk -l
[sudo] password for rick:
Disk /dev/sda: 223.6 GiB, 240057409536 bytes, 468862128 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0xdfef03d3

Device     Boot     Start       End   Sectors   Size Id Type
/dev/sda1  *         2048 452497407 452495360 215.8G 83 Linux
/dev/sda2       452499454 468860927  16361474   7.8G  5 Extended
/dev/sda5       452499456 468860927  16361472   7.8G 82 Linux swap / Solaris

Partition 2 does not start on physical sector boundary.

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rick@rick-Latitude-E5510 ~ $ sudo blkid
/dev/sda1: UUID="0847fe37-24ab-42d3-ab57-52704385d472" TYPE="ext4" PARTUUID="dfef03d3-01"
/dev/sda5: UUID="dc474fcf-a9c7-420e-a3ae-86f1cd466fdb" TYPE="swap" PARTUUID="dfef03d3-05"
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rick@rick-Latitude-E5510 ~ $ efibootmgr -v
The program 'efibootmgr' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
sudo apt install efibootmgr
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rick@rick-Latitude-E5510 ~ $ sudo apt install efibootmgr
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rick@rick-Latitude-E5510 ~ $ efibootmgr -v
efibootmgr: EFI variables are not supported on this system.
Rick  :)

Installation / "elf magic" grub message (SOLVED)
« on: April 04, 2017, 07:01:41 am »
When I wiped windows and installed Peppermint to the whole HD, I couldn't boot - I was getting this "elf magic" grub error.   I fixed it with boot-repair.

I did some system updates yesterday and noticed they were grub updates.

Today, I've again had the same "elf magic" error. Again, it was easily fixed with boot-repair.

What is bizarre is that when I've logged in, the original wallpaper has been restored. How did that happen?

Is this something that is likely to happen again when one of the updates includes grub?   I'm tempted not to apply further grub updates, but I guess that then the system update will always show as needing attention...

Why did this happen on my machine on a fresh install?   Never experienced this on other machines (it's a Dell Latitude)

This not an urgent post at all - just curious!

Rick  :)

GNU/Linux Discussion / Re: I've taken the plunge....
« on: April 03, 2017, 03:22:35 pm »
Just installed Civilization 4 via play on linux and it's flawless, and also ordered a 2nd hand age of empires 2 from ebay

Not sure I'm a "gamer" as I only like retro arcade and strategy games.  With linux, I'm well catered for.  Most windows laptops don't run the latest next gen games well anyway.....

For me the web has made this so much easier. One note, google drive, etc etc all there via your browser.  Even got 80gb music on googlemusic !

GNU/Linux Discussion / I've taken the plunge....
« on: April 03, 2017, 11:47:15 am »
Having treated myself to an old dell latitude with new SSD, I've wiped windows.  My machine is now 100% Peppermint.  Main reason is the SSD is smaller than I've been used to.   

I can always reinstall W7 later if I miss things.

In recent times, I've used Windows for games and linux for everything else.  Steam is getting better.   Off the top of my head, it's only "Age of Empires II HD" I'm going to miss!  For that, I'll try Play On Linux and see how I get on.

Btw, Peppermint boots so fast I can't actually see anything until the signing in page!

I'm trying to keep things low on eye candy to keep things fast.  Just using brightside with plank - does the job....

Hardware / Re: New Purchases 2017
« on: March 28, 2017, 03:04:51 pm »
Yesterday I was thinking, "love this Dell Latitude, the only shame is the lack of USB3"

A quick google later and I discover something very cheap called "USB3 express card".   

Perfect  :)

Hardware / Re: New Purchases 2017
« on: March 27, 2017, 05:10:03 am »
My modern laptop died last week (quite expensive HP, poor build quality ) and I'm very happy how it's turned out

Bought myself a reconditioned Dell Latitude e5510 for 175 and it's great.  Love that the DVD drive isn't flimsy, that the keyboard is business standard, quality speakers etc etc.

Even though I'm delighted with it, I'm taking it back to the local pc shop to upgrade ram from 4gb to 12, and go for a SSD.   240gb Kingston SSD just 59 now on e-bay.

Now dual booting with windows 7, using that for steam (can't be without age of empires 2 HD!!!) and Peppermint for all else.  W7 is quite good to be fair, far prefer it to 8 and 10.

Also feeling quite pleased with myself - saved my broken laptops harddrive and put it in a caddy to save my data (for me, that's quite clever ). Have also removed the 8gb ram

This set up will hopefully see me through the next 3 years while w7 remains supported

Sometimes bad news can turn into good news :)

Software & Applications / Re: Hot corners
« on: March 18, 2017, 05:51:57 am »
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That's brilliant thanks, just tried it and it works as I hoped it would


Software & Applications / Re: Hot corners
« on: March 17, 2017, 02:20:00 pm »
Hi rickc,

Why not try xfdashboard available in the repo's.  that will provide configurable hotcorners

Regards Zeb.

I am using xfdashboard.   One of the options is for a custom command.  I'm wondering what the terminal command would be to open the whiskermenu?


Software & Applications / Solved - Hot corners
« on: March 17, 2017, 10:43:44 am »
I would like a custom command for opening the menu.  Methinks if I use bottom left corner, it would make things just slightly more efficient....

Is this possible?

Great stuff, thanks

GNU/Linux Discussion / Re: Your opinion on DEs and WMs
« on: March 17, 2017, 08:16:59 am »
Does it bother you that the hotcorner/xfdashboard combo opens xfdashboard when you go to your hotcorner but the only way to close xfdashboard is to either select something or hit "Esc" ?
(it does me ::))

Wouldn't it be nice if the hotcorner "toggled" xfdashboard open/close ?

Thanks! That's really helpful

I love gnome3 but have a few issues - Ubuntu Gnome doesn't have a community like this, and feels a bit soulless. There's no OS specific themes etc, and changing shell etc is a faff for the average user.

Loving the speed and stability of P7.   I didn't like Whiskermenu at first but got used to it.

xfdashboard has given me back much of what I liked best about Gnome 3.  I wouldn't be without hot corners now.

Any advice appreciated though on my current frustration.....

To save me using the menu at all, I'm also using conky.  Ice remains a completely cool thing, but although you can add your ice items to conky, you don't get the right icon.

But do I need conky? When I open xfdashboard, there's a panel.  But I see no option to add to or customize it?  I've googled it but there doesn't seem to be much about how to get the best of out it.


I did wipe windows altogether, and then it wouldnt boot at all without going into f9 first.  I don't think erasing windows erases the windows boot manager.  A separate partition has the windows recovery, which you can't touch

With a live USB, I did try replacing windows and wiping the disk.  That didn't wipe the recovery partition,and linux wouldn't boot without f9

I'll just put up with it, I think

My other beef with the laptop is that the build quality feels cheap.  The keyboard is quite noisy.  Would never buy a laptop online again without checking it out instore first
For 400, I'd assumed buid quality would be good

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