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Software & Applications / Re: ICE and tabs question
« on: September 16, 2016, 04:57:23 pm »
Okay, thanks. Now to see about upgrading my RAM so I can remember all of this.  :D

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Software & Applications / Re: ICE and tabs question
« on: September 15, 2016, 02:07:32 pm »
Now for the next question: Is there a way to close a second or third tab when opened in an SSB since the actual tabs are not visible?

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Software & Applications / Re: ICE and tabs question
« on: September 15, 2016, 01:38:03 pm »
Easiest to just recreate ;)
That's kind of what I figured. Thanks. Also sounds like I need to remember the Ctrl + Tab to switch between tabs since the tabs aren't visible. (I understand this is normally a plus with and SSB but might not be so much when using multiple instances of gMail to access various accounts - unless one can remember the keyboard command for switching between tabs.)

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Software & Applications / Re: ICE and tabs question
« on: September 15, 2016, 01:06:56 pm »
Leave tab management in the Firefox SSB set to

Open new windows in a new tab

then use Ctrl+Tab to switch between tabs.



Or do you just want the menu item to open gmail in a regular FF instance .. though this kinda ignores the benefits of SSB's
Sounds like I need to re-set up the gMail SSB using Firefox. (I switched it to Chrome for some reason.) Is there a way to edit an SSB once it is created, or is it better to delete it and create a new one? Thanks.

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Software & Applications / Re: ICE and tabs question
« on: September 15, 2016, 08:00:22 am »
Tabs are hidden in SSB's (it's kinda the point ;) ) .. to switch between hidden tabs hit Ctrl+Tab

SSB Navigation:-

Alt = display the menu bar

Alt+Left_Arrow = Page Back

Alt+Right_Arrow = Page Forward

Ctrl+Tab = Switch Tab
(s)



So you can either use Ctrl+Tab to switch tabs .. or Alt to display the menubar, then change tab behaviour in
Edit > Preferences> general > Tabs

You can also install plugins/extensions (add-ons) on a per SSB basis.
I could not get this to work for me. I had my gMail open and tried to open one of my other accounts in a new tab, and it launched a new browser window (my Netflix SSB) and added the tab there instead of to the already open gMail SSB. Hitting the Alt button in either window does nothing on my machine. Note that my gMail, Google Drive, and Netflix SSBs are all set up for Chrome. The Alt tab does work with Firefox.

Here is the output of inxi -Fz (for what it's worth):
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System:    Host: walt-Aspire-TC-120 Kernel: 4.4.0-36-generic x86_64 (64 bit)
           Desktop: N/A Distro: Peppermint Seven
Machine:   Mobo: Acer model: Aspire TC-120
           Bios: American Megatrends v: P11-A2 date: 06/24/2014
CPU:       Quad core AMD A10-6700 APU with Radeon HD Graphics (-MCP-) cache: 8192 KB
           clock speeds: max: 3700 MHz 1: 1800 MHz 2: 1800 MHz 3: 2300 MHz
           4: 2300 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Richland [Radeon HD 8670D]
           Display Server: X.Org 1.18.3 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1600x900@60.00hz
           GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on AMD ARUBA (DRM 2.43.0, LLVM 3.8.0)
           GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 11.2.0
Audio:     Card-1 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] FCH Azalia Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel
           Card-2 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Trinity HDMI Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.4.0-36-generic
Network:   Card-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
           driver: r8169
           IF: enp1s0 state: down mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9565 / AR9565 Wireless Network Adapter
           driver: ath9k
           IF: wlp3s0 state: up mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 1000.2GB (24.0% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD10EZEX size: 1000.2GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 29G used: 6.0G (22%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
           ID-2: /home size: 877G used: 207G (25%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda5
           ID-3: swap-1 size: 13.00GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda6
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 9.4C mobo: 46.0C gpu: 8.0
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A fan-2: 1112 fan-3: 0
Info:      Processes: 216 Uptime: 6 days Memory: 1440.7/7213.9MB
           Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.2.35

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Software & Applications / ICE and tabs question
« on: September 14, 2016, 02:59:51 pm »
Is there a way to enable tabs on ICE created "apps" ? For example, when I open Google Drive to work on a document that has been shared with me, it supposedly opens in another tab (according to the message I get when I go to close Google Drive). But I have no way to toggle between the "tab" with the document I am working on and the Google Drive home. As a result, if I want to work on a different document (say, a text document instead of a spreadsheet), it appears I have to completely close Google Drive and relaunch it.

I have a slightly different situation when running gMail. I have several accounts I use. If I want to go into a second (or third) account without closing the first one, I can tell it to open in a new tab, but what happens is that the ICE app I created for Netflix opens and the new tab shows up there instead of on the ICE app already set up for gMail. Unless I want yet another instance of the browser to open, I have to sign out of the one email account and log into the second account. Since ICE is an SSB, it seems these types of instances should be accounted for, as I am sure I am not the only person who has multiple gMail accounts or uses more than one document at a time in Google Drive.

Any suggestions? Thanks.

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Software & Applications / Re: Conky freezes, won't autostart (SOLVED)
« on: August 22, 2016, 05:41:46 pm »
I was playing around with the Guayadeque section in my script, and started thinking.  :o

We're all honorable people, but anybody can claim anything on the web, yes ?

I thought I should offer proof that Conky 1.10.x works on Peppermint 7 ...



Yes, I have it working on my PM7 install as well.

There are a few things I hope to figure out how to do, such as make text from my BBC News rss feed wrap and, eventually, make those headlines clickable so as to bring up the corresponding story on the BBC News website and perhaps get my Google Calendar (more specifically appointments and tasks) to feed into Conky. A man can dream, right?

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Software & Applications / Re: Conky freezes, won't autostart (SOLVED)
« on: August 21, 2016, 08:34:36 pm »
You can search for any Ubuntu package for any version here:
http://packages.ubuntu.com/
Thanks! I'll bookmark that site for future reference.

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Software & Applications / Re: Conky freezes, won't autostart
« on: August 21, 2016, 07:37:21 pm »
Actually, Sector11 says you're welcome there any time you want to come over. He says the coffee is always on.  :)

Hrm ... Maybe I'll do that.

Coffee is a lovely drug !    8)
It's one of my favorites, along with a good red wine or a nice dark porter or stout.  :)

Regarding the conky-all (which is what I installed in version 1.10) is there a .deb package I can get should I decide to roll back? I'm not sure I trust my BUILD/MAKE skills. Either way, I think I'll mark this as solved since the folks at BunsenLabs gave me some suggestions and advice, and my Conky hasn't frozen in more than four hours, a new record for me in PM 7. Thanks to everyone for trying to help and for being patient.

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Software & Applications / Re: Conky freezes, won't autostart
« on: August 21, 2016, 07:00:47 pm »
Well, I've come this far, so I might as well see if the folks at Bunsen Labs can help me get up and running. They've given me some suggested corrections to my .conkyrc file, so we'll see what effect those have. Thanks.

Word to the wise ...

Don't mention my name over there, or they'll hang you from the yardarm.   ;)
Actually, Sector11 says you're welcome there any time you want to come over. He says the coffee is always on.  :)

Now, for a stupid question regard the Conky 1.9 link. I'm a bit out of practice building from source, though I know I can find instructions for doing so. Should I decide to revert to the 1.9 series, would you recommend going to the 1.9.0-6build1 or the 1.9.0-4 version? I also assume I need all three files listed in each directory?

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Software & Applications / Re: Conky freezes, won't autostart
« on: August 21, 2016, 02:19:01 pm »
More than likely, the problem is Conky 1.10.x itself.  If you install Conky 1.9.x the problems will probably evaporate.

LINK (picked at random):  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/conky

The only reason I'm using Conky 1.10.x is because I like breakage -- it's the challenge to get it working that's fun, you know ?  And, once it works, I'll be bored with it.   8)

Nobody really knows that much about Conky 1.10.x because it's such a radical departure from previous versions.  Plus, 1.10.x is a moving target and the binaries change daily.  If you want a stable version, you're going to need to compile it from source, and roast your own build.

The best place to research Conky 1.10.x problems is Git-Hub:  https://github.com/brndnmtthws/conky/issues

That's the location of the 'Conky Borg' hive , but the 'Collective' is mostly devs, so it might not be of much help.

Really, Conky users are stuck between a rock n' a hard spot, right now.  Truthfully, I don't know if Conky et. al. will survive v. 1.10.x.

There's a movement, out there, to fork Conky -- ppl are that angry about the changes.  Who knows where it will end up ?!?!?

As long as we're discussing this, I might add, Conky coding requires 'fuzzy logic'.  That's one of the reason there are so many 'if-then' variables in it. 

The problem is, most coders don't think that way, like if A=A1, then B=B1, else if A1=A2, then B=B2, else ifend, and so forth.  LoL  :D

Most coders are completely confused by Conky coding, and it takes years to get that 'fuzzy logic' AND Lua under your belt, and feel comfortable with it.

My suggestion is to downgrade Conky to version 1.9.x and go back to your original script -- unless you feel like beating your head against the wall, like me.   8)
Well, I've come this far, so I might as well see if the folks at Bunsen Labs can help me get up and running. They've given me some suggested corrections to my .conkyrc file, so we'll see what effect those have. Thanks.

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Software & Applications / Re: Conky freezes, won't autostart
« on: August 21, 2016, 08:48:43 am »
Hi WaltH, I was just struck with an idea that may help you out  ;)CrunchBang Linux was famous for its Conky community.  They literally turned writing Conky scripts into an art form.  Sadly, CrunchBang is consigned to the pages of history.  The old community have resurrected it in the form of bunsenlabs.  They also appear to kept their Conky cravings unsulied: https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewforum.php?id=9.  Perhaps, asking there will yield the answers you're looking for.  The Crunchies were a great bunch, so it can't hurt asking the bunsenlabs crowd  ;).
I went through the 47 pages of Conky tips on the old CrunchBang forums and looked through the BunsenLabs forum as well. I have posted my issue there to see whether they have come across such behavior and have any ideas. Thanks.

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Software & Applications / Re: Conky freezes, won't autostart
« on: August 21, 2016, 07:40:12 am »
Something tells me you may be on your own with conky configuration .. there are probably places you'll find more help than here.

The reason nobody likes to offer conky help here is the second you do you immediately get swamped with requests for assistance .. and this is after all a "Peppermint" support forum not a "conky" support forum.

Sorry if that seems a little "tough", but experience tells me to steer clear of offering conky help ;)
Fair enough. I thought I'd try here first, since I suspected I wouldn't get the simple "RTFM" that often accompanies such requests elsewhere. Also, the fact that I haven't been able to find recurrences of this behavior elsewhere (I've spent hours trying to find information) led me to wonder if this might be a Peppermint problem (or perhaps an Ubuntu problem since I haven't found mention of the freezing problem with regard to other distributions. On the other hand, perhaps it's only me.

On the other hand, I wasn't aware nobody here likes to offer Conky help. I understand that this is a Pepperming forum, but the fact that there is a Software and Applications section of the forum seems to indicate that help can be sought for the applications made available through the Peppermint repositories. Perhaps that was an erroneous assumption on my part.

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Software & Applications / Re: Conky freezes, won't autostart
« on: August 20, 2016, 09:23:20 pm »
Okay. One problem fixed. Conky now autostarts. My autostart-conk.desktop file had an error in it. By changing the double quotation marks in this line:
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Exec=bash -c "sleep 15 ; /home/walt/.conky/conky-startup.sh"to single quotation marks
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Exec=bash -c 'sleep 15 ; /home/walt/.conky/conky-startup.sh'and rebooting, my Conky fired right up. Now to see if it still freezes after an hour or so.

EDIT: I didn't even have to wait an hour. Conky froze after four minutes. Would opening my .conkyrc file to look at it (even without making changes cause Conky to freeze?
Using either quotation marks or the apostrophe to encapsulate, shouldn't make any difference.  They both work the same.  I always first use the quotation marks, rather than the apostrophe  :-\.

Extra reading: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/29980/whats-the-difference-between-single-and-double-quotes-in-the-bash-shell/
Oddly enough, it did seem to make a difference in my case. However, Conky still freezes, which is the part I can't figure out.

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