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General Discussion / Re: Deleting Frakkbook and DehTwttrs
« on: March 11, 2019, 07:30:45 pm »
It sounds like your mom's account was hijacked, you're getting no help with this from Facebook.  What a nightmare.  I'm sorry you two are going through this. :(

General Discussion / Re: Deleting Frakkbook and DehTwttrs
« on: March 11, 2019, 04:52:43 pm »
Might this help you, spence? :-\

General Discussion / Re: Best Browser
« on: March 11, 2019, 03:30:51 pm »
Hubster wouldn't touch any browser outta China nor Russia perknh... Knowing they may write all the most warm and fuzzy language into their policies, but their laws & policies are whatever the people in power tell the web providers they are on any given day. "Today we scour all traffic from Yekaterinburg and San Francisco because xyz enemy of Putin are there today"

Thank you, spence.   

Honestly... just don't bother. Russia is set to close the borders of it's internet, Hubster is watching the protests there.

Yes, after watching how things have been developing there on my own, I decided recently to drop my accounts from there.  Then, a couple days after doing so , I read that about Mr. P's intention/aspiration to close off (or to be able to close off) Russia's Internet completely from the outside world. 

Thanks, but no thanks.  There's no way I want to go down that rabbit hole. ::)

I hate seeing the world balkanizing itself into various Web spaces, but that's exactly what's happening now.   Balkanizing cyberspace destroys the entire concept of the World Wide Web.

General Discussion / Re: BEST Distribution EVER !!
« on: March 10, 2019, 08:48:28 am »
Yeah I kinda like it too .. but mainly because of the new friends it's afforded me :)

I feel the same way, PCNetSpec.  It's the people who make a distribution what it is, and our friends here in this community are second to none. ;)

Thank you so much, valiii1313.  Welcome to Peppermint.  You're right!  This really is the BEST Distribution EVER!! :)

General Discussion / Re: Best Browser
« on: March 07, 2019, 09:10:53 pm »
Sorta curious, given your level of safety and security anxiety studiousness, I figured you'd appreciate opening every web application in the isolated containers a Firefox SSB creates. Effectively each SSB is blocking websites from following you around the web. If I understand this and PCNetSpec's explanations all correctly?

No, you're onto something here, spence.  I think anxiety's a good word -- along with a healthy dose of pessimism!   You know maybe I should start using SSBs again.  I mean, this is Peppermint.  If we're going to use an SSB anywhere, Peppermint is the place.  ;)

Meanwhile, my hubster's of the mind that they have everything on us already and he can't be too overly concerned. In our case that means Putin knows everything too, for they have a long conjoined history.[/color]

I hear that argument quite frequently, spence:  it's usually from pessimists!  ;D   But seriously, what are his thoughts concerning Yandex search or Yandex browser today as compared to a half dozen years ago?

General Discussion / Re: Best Browser
« on: March 07, 2019, 03:01:27 pm »

Sorry, I just found it funny.
Safe? Most probably. But, for sure it 'calls home' to 'master' Google.
On the other hand, is there such a thing as privacy these days?!  :-\

I enjoyed you comment, pin.  It was a good one! :)

Some time ago I had to do some serous soul searching as to who I thought would do the best job of keeping my family's data SAFE.  I opted for Linux and Peppermint and Chromium and Google's services.  So far, knock on wood, this approach has worked fine for us, but, again, I knock on wood.  Please note, I had little to nothing to do with Microsoft and Windows. ;)

Now, if I had to evaluate my choices over again, I'd probably choose Firefox Quantum or Google Chrome over Chromium.  And, of course, I'd stay with Peppermint.   

@pin & VinDSL

I do agree with VinDSL that one protects one's identity best (from all but our ISPs) by regularly switching browsers.  My problem with browsers these days (and this is just my opinion), is that a few of these browsers are going south, or getting worse, quite quickly.  For instance, I don't like losing the protections of Norway's privacy laws by moving data privacy protections to Singapore.  To me, this is a step in the wrong direction.  Even though this move helps Opera dodge EU's stronger privacy regulations, it doesn't help its users much.   See here.  Grr!

Also Yandex has found itself within a bind since it has become more and more under some kind of neo-Tsarist/authoritarian oversight.  Undoubtedly Yandex is world-class company, but I don't believe the Russian government is doing Yandex any favors these days.  Before Yandex's philosophy was more or less "If you don't mess with us, we won't mess with you."  Unfortunately, I don't believe Yandex can afford to be such a gentle player anymore.

Then we had Maxthon.  Believe it or not, for a brief window in time, Maxthon was the best browser I ever used in LInux, but then Chinese leaders and Chinese data regulations changed.  And soon thereafter Maxthon for Linux went belly up.  Why did it die off?  I believe Maxthon for Linux died off because it couldn't open up its source code without raising the ire of the Chinese authorities and/or the open source community.  It had to die off.  I could be wrong about this, but I really don't think so.

So where does this leave us?  I believe our best bets for good and secure browsers are now with Firefox, Chromium, Chrome, Brave and Vivaldi.  That's about it.  I haven't had enough experience with Iridium, Pale Moon, Balsilisk, or Iron to comment upon those browsers at present.  I would imagine they're all pretty good too -- even if they're a little behind with code development (as is Chromium at times).

General Discussion / Re: Best Browser
« on: March 07, 2019, 01:10:19 pm »
True in the basic browser perk, but not when it's an SSB... -- spence

Sorry, spence.  That I do not know.  I haven't used ICE in ages. :-\

General Discussion / Re: Best Browser
« on: March 07, 2019, 12:36:34 pm »
Bottom line:  Chromium browser, although poorly named within Peppermint and Ubuntu, is a safe browser to use.  :)

 :D  :D

How's this:  Chromium browser, although poorly named within Peppermint and Ubuntu, is a safe browser to use -- I HOPE! :-X

Is that better? ;D


Meanwhile... today whilst helping someone triage an issue over on MeWe, I decided to install Vivaldi for the first time as that's the user's preferred browser. made a 3rd MeWe SSB with Vivaldi, what a slow pile of molasses that is. Now to figure out how to access it's settings...

 >:(    :-\

-- spence

Top left corner (the menu), if my memory is serving me correctly. :-\ 

General Discussion / Re: Screenshot Gallery -- Show Us Your Screen
« on: March 07, 2019, 12:28:01 pm »
That's minimalist, rayzer.  Very nice. :)

General Discussion / Re: Best Browser
« on: March 07, 2019, 11:55:48 am »
(...Ubuntu have just been stupid in their naming of their Chromium build so it says "Ubuntu" rather than "Ubuntu Chromium" .. as all other distros seem to)
-- PCNetSpec

Thank you, PCNetSpec.  Truth is Peppermint, Chromium, and even Google have all been very, VERY good to me over the years.  Two calendar years ago, Peppermint 8 was a work horse for me and I did all of my work through Peppermint, Chromium and Google's services.  But recently, when I began to contrast mrs.perknh's security notifications within her Google account (using Chrome) with mine (using Chromium), my antennas went up. 

Bottom line:  Chromium browser, although poorly named within Peppermint and Ubuntu, is a safe browser to use.  :)

Thanks so much for looking into this.  And thank you also to all the others here who have posted about this topic too.

General Discussion / Re: Best Browser
« on: March 07, 2019, 06:11:58 am »
Might find this interesting, perk - it should all be in English, for you:   :D!topic/chrome/DsbPuYYTHzo

Well, the phrase "full account access" might cause some misunderstanding. What it means is that anyone who can use your Chrome can access your Google account information like gmail, hangouts, etc. which basically means everything. It is not saying your Chrome will do something to your Google account without your consent.

-- Rong Jie

Good find, VinDSL!  This would mean that anyone who has access to this local Ubuntu-based distribution (Peppermint) has access to my Google account.  That would make sense, and I could live with that.  Problem is, that isn't what it says.  I mean take my cell phone as an example; I've given What'sApp permission to have access to my Google contacts and it has access to pretty much my entire device.  But I never gave Ubuntu permission to access my Google account -- just like I never gave Firefox permission. However, Firefox doesn't say it has full access to my Google Account, while Ubuntu does say it does (or did, because I purged Chromium yesterday.)

I should say, I don't mind Google Chrome having full access to my Google account if I'm using Google Chrome.  However, I would mind Google Chrome having full access to my Outlook account if I was using Google Chrome.


I slept on this -- perhaps waking up with a clue for you.

My Chromium account had both me and mrs.perknh as users.  However my wife rarely used Chromium because she has her own Chrome browser.  So I forgot she was attached to the Chromium account.  I deleted all my info, but I forgot to delete hers before I removed and purged Chromium.  After this, the purging, when I went into her Chrome account, it then said that Ubuntu had full access to her account and that Google Chrome had full access to her account.  I then removed Ubuntu's access and it hasn't come back.  Maybe that's clue that can help you with your understanding of this matter.

PCNetSpec, just a note:  I don't think zeb has ever participated in this thread.  He may not have gotten your message yesterday. :-\

General Discussion / Re: Best Browser
« on: March 06, 2019, 09:52:26 pm »
Thanks pin

Something tells me this is a misunderstanding of what's actually going on here. I can't see that all those distros would actively seek access to your Google account, I mean why would they, it could destroy their reputation ?

If I had to guess - I'd guess compiling asks for a name/url during the build .. and it's just saying "Chromium has full access to your Google account" (which you'd expect) .. but since they added their name/url during the build it now says "VOID Linux Chromium has full access to your Google account" .. in other words it's not that the VOID Linux devs have access to your Google account, it's just that Chromium itself does but Chromium is now called VOID Linux Chromium on your system.

Did that make sense ?

So, PCNetSpec, are we assuming Ubuntu is misnaming Chromium browser by naming it Ubuntu when it compiles Chromium browser? 

Or is it as this this link suggests, -- an error on Chromium's part? 

Below is from mrs.perknh's Google Chrome account:

Google apps with account access
These are trusted apps by Google you installed on your devices. Remove any that you no longer use.

Google Chrome
Has full access to your Google Account

Now, in my case using Chromium (actually I uninstalled Chromium after I began wondering about this and am now using Firefox and Google Chrome beta), might the notification actually been telling me the truth -- that Ubuntu really did have full access to my Google account?   Absurd as it sounds, might the message have been correct, even if it's just a strange ongoing glitch (bug) within Ubuntu of some sort?  I mean we have no difficulty at all believing that Google Chrome has full access to mrs.perknh's Google account.  I don't think anyone doubts that.  Now if we believe one message, why not believe the other -- that when running Chromium browser from within an Ubuntu-based distribution, Ubuntu will have full access to our Google accounts?

It sounds crazy, doesn't it?  But that's what it says.


Yet another reason NOT to use a browser named after a poisonous metal  :D
-- pin

Good one, pin! ;D

Heh. Are you starting to see why I use different browsers for different things, perk?
-- VinDSL

Yep, I sure do. ;)

@PCNetSpec, zebedeeboss, pin, spence, and VinDSL, thank you all. This is a strange thing indeed.

General Discussion / Re: Best Browser
« on: March 06, 2019, 08:12:28 am »
Can you explain that perknh .. how is Ubuntu getting full access to your Google account ?


1) First you need to install Chromium-browser.

2) Now sign into your Google account.  (I sync everything, but probably signing into Gmail would be enough.)

3) Click onto your personal icon and go to Google Account.  You'll see a welcome screen, and on the left side of the screen will be a list of options.

4) Click onto the option called Security.

5) Now, scroll down the page.  Next to Your devices will be Google apps with account access

As you'll soon see, Ubuntu will be listed as having full access to your Google account. :o

Here is a popular explanation as to why this is happening.  But, honestly, this explanation doesn't satisfy me.  Maybe it should satisfy me, but it doesn't. :-\

Thank you, PCNetSpec.

General Discussion / Re: Best Browser
« on: March 06, 2019, 07:45:09 am »
One of the things I don't like about Chromium browser within an Ubuntu-based distribution is Ubuntu granting itself full access to a user's Google account.  If a third-party app has to grant itself full access to my Google account, I'd rather that app be Google Chrome than Ubuntu.  After all Google Chrome is a Google browser!  Although I've looked and looked online, I've yet to find a reasonable explanation as to why Ubuntu needs full access to a user's Google account. 

It should be noted, to its credit, Mozilla Firefox doesn't grant itself full access to a user's Google account. ;)

General Discussion / Re: Best Browser
« on: March 03, 2019, 04:24:31 pm »
Remember, I'm talking about smarties now, AKA personal tracking devices, not PCs...  ;)

Yes, I too have a personal tracking device that's running Brave!  ;D

You supposedly can turn off private results from Google search from within Google's search settings.  I've done so, although I can't tell you how well turning it off works.  I don't use Google search a lot, though it's tough to get away from it entirely.

I should correct myself, VinDSL.  I know Outlook mail tracks you like mad. (I have an Outlook account for Skype.)  I'm assuming Bing search tracks the same way Outlook does, but, honestly, I'm not 100% certain that it does.   Fortunately Brave browser for a smartphone gives its users lots of options regarding search. :)

Settings for Google Search

If, and only if, you're signed into your Google account, look for:

Private results
Private results help find more relevant content for you, including content and connections that only you can see.
Use private results
Do not use private results

And choose Do not use private results  I guess you won't be able to turn off the bias if you're not signed into Google. ::)

Thanks, VinDSL.

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