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New Users / Re: Laptop boots once and only once after fresh install
« on: April 28, 2017, 05:20:06 pm »
Yeah, hold off on any digging and we'll see if the VPN works with P5 this time.

The single good boot led them the think the VPN set up broke P7, because that's the first thing they did after booting it up successfully. Then when I was there, I suggested trying Mint 18 XFCE. Thinking maybe it includes more "stuff" that'd make the VPN work.

On the first boot of that, I suggested changing the video driver to the recommended proprietary nvidea one. The driver change requires reboot, of course, so I thought that broke it somehow when it failed to reboot correctly. So then I tried it all over again, without changing the driver before finally going back to P5.


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New Users / Re: Laptop boots once and only once after fresh install
« on: April 28, 2017, 04:49:06 pm »
Thanks, wonder where I got that idea, maybe confusing it with plugging in power and not relying on battery.  :-\

So at least with this circa 2009 Dell Studio 1440/14z laptop, there must be an actual issue with recent versions of Ubuntu related to hwmon.   

 

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New Users / Re: Laptop boots once and only once after fresh install
« on: April 28, 2017, 04:04:13 pm »
That's what I tried when it was on the Mint 18 install. Because it seemed at least similar to some of the reports here:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1509578

I think the exact message had a part in parentheses first and that included a number (different number each time) then: "dell_smm_hwmon: unable to get SMM Dell Signature".

IIRC, it would get through the Dell part of booting and then indicate P7 (or Mint 18, when that was tried) was loading. Then the message about hwmon and unable to get Dell signature would appear and nothing more would happen, it just sat there with that message. The really odd part was this only happened on second and subsequent boots after install, not the first.

This is a laptop was given to my daughter and son-in-law to use. I had P5 on it and that they were fine with just leaving that. Then they had an issue when they wanted to use their VPN, it gave an error message. The VPN provider (Private Internet Access) told them something like "that error usually means the HDD or home directory is encrypted". It wasn't, I have never chosen encryption on an install. But anyway, since they were told that they assumed it had been encrypted and decided to just install P7. They then got the VPN working under P7 but then next boot up gave them this hwmon error.

Unfortunately, that computer and I live about 400 miles apart and I only had time to do one more install before we left for home the other day. Otherwise, I'd have just tested whether or not the internet connection was the issue.

No need to expend a lot of effort on this as I think they will just use P5, assuming they can get the VPN to work with it this time. I just thought someone might be able to say either that "yes, installing on a laptop without a wired internet connection can cause strange things to happen" or "there are some known issues with old Dell's, hwmon, and recent versions of Ubuntu".

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New Users / Laptop boots once and only once after fresh install
« on: April 28, 2017, 12:16:35 pm »
I wanted to check if a boot problem was likely due to installing without a wired connection to the internet. Did an install on a Dell laptop, without plugging in a network cable, so there was only the wireless. After install got one and only one good boot then it was broken.

Everything seemed good initially, the OS installed and it rebooted to the OS from the HDD with no issues. But on the next boot after that it would not work at all. The boot up process would freeze with error messages about hwmon and unable to get Dell signature. Could then only get it to boot to a "$" prompt (is that called CLI?) via one of the advanced boot alternatives. While trying some things to fix the issue with just the terminal or CLI there was no wireless connection, so I plugged an ethernet cable in at that point.

None of the attempted fixes worked, so on a third install attempt (we had the same thing happen with P7 and Mint 18), decided to just go back to P5, since all had been working under that. I just left the ethernet cable plugged in at that point and did the P5 install and updates and everything is fine. So after all that, I then thought I recalled something about it being better to install with a wired internet connection...and maybe that's why the P5 reinstall worked while the others did not.

Is it likely that the problem with P7 (and Mint 18) was due to not having a wired internet connection, rather than being due to the OS?

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New Users / Re: Peppermint 5 Ubuntu 16.04.2 upgrade notice (solved)
« on: March 07, 2017, 06:31:43 pm »
Just an opportunity to get rid of some old DVDs that I have laying around.
 
But seriously, I will be letting them know of the great and patient support for Peppermint that I got from you and others when I was new to Linux 3-1/2 years ago.   8)

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New Users / Re: Peppermint 5 Ubuntu 16.04.2 upgrade notice (solved)
« on: March 07, 2017, 01:56:32 pm »
Thanks again.

Since it now turns out that we'll be passing this laptop on soon, it'll be good to no longer have that upgrade option appear.

The new owners will also receive a selection of 8 Linux distros on DVD (including P7) to choose from should they want to upgrade.

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New Users / Re: Peppermint 5 Ubuntu 16.04.2 upgrade notice (solved)
« on: March 07, 2017, 01:31:55 pm »
Follow-up, I found that I don't have that option in software and updates (also the weird bug where boxes can't be checked):



I used the terminal and got warnings copied below, but seems to have worked. The file opened, I edited it and then saved. Used file manager to navigate to that file and opened it and the "never" is there.:

** (gedit:4746): WARNING **: Could not load Gedit repository: Typelib file for namespace 'GtkSource', version '3.0' not found

(gedit:4746): Gtk-WARNING **: Calling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files

(gedit:4746): Gtk-WARNING **: Calling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files


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New Users / Re: Peppermint 5 Ubuntu 16.04.2 upgrade notice (solved)
« on: March 04, 2017, 06:56:13 pm »
Thanks for the instructions for turning off that notification.

Someday when I am ready to replace peppermint 5 anyway, I could do that brave thing just to see what happens ;).

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New Users / Re: Peppermint 5 Ubuntu 16.04.2 upgrade notice
« on: March 04, 2017, 04:54:06 pm »
I got somewhat similar output from that command. But does this: 

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1574670

mean it's fixed for all, or only for Yakkety?

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New Users / Re: Peppermint 5 Ubuntu 16.04.2 upgrade notice (solved)
« on: March 04, 2017, 03:30:39 pm »
Thanks for confirming.

Updates to packages shouldn't be much of an issue, these macines are just used for streaming to couple TVs using Chrome. 

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New Users / Peppermint 5 Ubuntu 16.04.2 upgrade notice (solved)
« on: March 04, 2017, 01:04:58 pm »
Hi, I am still using peppermint 5 on a couple old laptops. I don't wish to change, at least as long as security updates continue. It looks like I am good for about another another 2 years based on Trusty Tahr's end of life?

The software updater has been telling me that system is up to date but Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS is available and giving me an upgrade option. I've been ignoring this and assuming it's not really a feasible upgrade option, anyway. I figured it was some sort of glitch related to the Ubuntu base of peppermint.

If I am mistaken and this "upgrade" thing can work, what would I be upgrading to?

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New Users / Re: Peppermint 5 Screen Savers
« on: February 04, 2015, 06:06:01 am »
I saw settings for screen saver under lightlocker

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New Users / Re: warning triangle "update info outdated"
« on: January 04, 2015, 03:44:09 pm »

Back in the terminal run:
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sudo apt-get update
if there were no errors, try running a system update now and see if those errors have gone.

No errors listed in terminal after running that or after running "sudo apt update". Software updater says  it is up to date.

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New Users / Re: warning triangle "update info outdated"
« on: January 04, 2015, 11:52:24 am »
Can you open a terminal (Ctrl+Alt+T) and run this command:
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gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
then post the contents of the file that opens back here.

As the contents will be rather long, can you please enclose the output in spoiler tags - (Sp) button in the forum editor

Here's what I get:

Spoiler (click here to view / hide)
# deb cdrom:[Peppermint 5 _Five_ - Release amd64 (20140617.2)]/ trusty main multiverse restricted universe

# See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to
# newer versions of the distribution.
deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty main restricted
deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty main restricted

## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
## distribution.
deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates restricted main
deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates main restricted

## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
## team. Also, please note that software in universe WILL NOT receive any
## review or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty universe
deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty universe
deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates universe
deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates universe

## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
## multiverse WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu
## security team.
deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty multiverse
deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty multiverse
deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates multiverse
deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates multiverse

## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as
## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes
## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features.
## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review
## or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-backports main universe multiverse restricted
deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-backports main restricted universe multiverse

deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty-security main restricted
deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty-security main restricted
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty-security universe
deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty-security universe
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty-security multiverse
deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty-security multiverse

## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from Canonical's
## 'partner' repository.
## This software is not part of Ubuntu, but is offered by Canonical and the
## respective vendors as a service to Ubuntu users.
# deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu trusty partner
# deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu trusty partner

## This software is not part of Ubuntu, but is offered by third-party
## developers who want to ship their latest software.
deb http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty main
deb-src http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty main
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-security multiverse restricted main universe
deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-proposed main universe multiverse restricted
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Guessing it doesn't matter but terminal also shows a warning:
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gedit /etc/apt/sources.list

** (gedit:2038): WARNING **: Could not load Gedit repository: Typelib file for namespace 'GtkSource', version '3.0' not found

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New Users / warning triangle "update info outdated" (Solved)
« on: January 04, 2015, 11:03:53 am »
I have twice had a triangle with "!" in it appear in the panel. When I click on it, it says: "update information is outdated...". When I run software updater it says software is up to date and the triangle goes away.

Based suggestions given to another poster with similar problem I ran "sudo apt update" this ends by reporting: 

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Reading package lists... Done                                                 
W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-security/multiverse amd64 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty-security_multiverse_binary-amd64_Packages)
W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-security/restricted amd64 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty-security_restricted_binary-amd64_Packages)
W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-security/main amd64 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty-security_main_binary-amd64_Packages)
W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-security/universe amd64 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty-security_universe_binary-amd64_Packages)
W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-security/multiverse i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty-security_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages)
W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-security/restricted i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty-security_restricted_binary-i386_Packages)
W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-security/main i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty-security_main_binary-i386_Packages)
W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-security/universe i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages)
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems

So I tried "sudo apt-get update", which is what I thought that was suggesting I do, but that just reports the same issues.

Is there anything I should do about this?

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