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Installation / Re: Peppermint installation on Linux DELL Latitude 7280
« on: August 21, 2018, 11:30:11 am »
I got fed up of trying things to make it work, so I "went nuclear", as they say. Formatted the entire HDD and installed Peppermint. Let's hope all goes well.

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Installation / Re: Peppermint installation on Linux DELL Latitude 7280
« on: August 21, 2018, 07:10:55 am »
As reommended I have been waiting for Peppermint  9 but the problem is exactly the same

Ditto. I've just given this a go with a Peppermint 9 LiveUSB (admittedly without getting into all the BIOS settings), and I'm having exactly the same problems as before.

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Installation / Re: Peppermint installation on Linux DELL Latitude 7280
« on: April 25, 2018, 11:34:36 pm »
alynur, if I understand your question correctly, here's what I've tried: I've used a couple of different USB sticks, burned using both multibootusb and the default programmes on Ubuntu and Peppermint. In all cases, it's the Peppermint live USB/ install that doesn't work. I tried Xubuntu 16.04 as well, that I was able to boot into the live USB. (Sorry if I've still not got what you meant!)

PCNetSpec, yes, it's the most sensible option for me at the moment. I don't enjoy working on Ubuntu (I do on Peppermint), but as a layperson I'd much rather just ignore the annoying bits for now and do stuff than spend any more hours fiddling with the BIOS and the hardware. Particularly because I don't know what I'm doing and could really break things!

Thanks.

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Installation / Re: Peppermint installation on Linux DELL Latitude 7280
« on: April 25, 2018, 07:25:29 am »
Well I don't know what to tell you then my mate .. I'm **fairly** confident that wiping the drive (or deleting the ubuntu EFI boot loader and recovery partition) would do the trick .. BUT ..

There's no way I can advise you to do this because there's no 100% guarantee .. it would need to be your decision.

Your options are

a) Create a full clone of your hard drive to an external device .. then wipe your drive and install Peppermint

b) Risk wiping the drive and installing  Peppermint without first cloning, this will **probably** work, but if not you'll have lost the recovery option.

c) Wait for Peppermint 9 and see if that works

d) Give up and install something else.

I tend not to give irreversible advice that **may** result in a non-working system, without the user being FULLY aware of the risks first.

Theoretically you could back up just the recovery partition, then delete it, and then backup the EFI bootloader(s) then delete it/them .. but again there are risks, so the decision has to be yours.

Thanks, I appreciate the detailed and honest advice here.

I've been getting on with work on Ubuntu, and I'll wait for Peppermint 9 or give Xubuntu 18.04 a try in case that works. It seems like the least amount of headache and risk.

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Installation / Re: Peppermint installation on Linux DELL Latitude 7280
« on: April 25, 2018, 04:54:30 am »
How easy is it to (temporarily) remove the HDD on this model ?

I'm pretty sure you'd have no problem if the Dell recovery partition wasn't confusing the bootloader.

It'd be interesting to see if the LiveUSB boots perfectly with the HDD disconnected ?

Hi, removing the HDD is beyond my knowledge/ ability.

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Installation / Re: Peppermint installation on Linux DELL Latitude 7280
« on: April 24, 2018, 10:13:31 pm »
Hi N, are you using the same USB memory to boot or do you have separate memories? I ran into this same problem with a memory stick I was using and ended up using it only for music storage.

I'm afraid I don't understand your question. What do you mean by separate memories?

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Installation / Re: Peppermint installation on Linux DELL Latitude 7280
« on: April 15, 2018, 09:58:40 pm »
Yes, this is what my BIOS looks like. I've already tried the Legacy option; with the Peppermint live USB I still end up in an Ubuntu live session or get the same recovery error if I try to install.

Xubuntu 16.04 is the version I tried. I didn't try installing but the live session works correctly.

It'll be a long wait for Peppermint 9! This is my main computer now and I find Ubuntu doesn't match my needs or working style any more, so I want to replace it at the earliest. On my other, older computer that I don't have with me now, I found that after setting up Peppermint the way I wanted, I could just forget about the OS and get on with work. Which is what most non-tech laypeople want from their computers :-)

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Installation / Re: Peppermint installation on Linux DELL Latitude 7280
« on: April 15, 2018, 10:22:45 am »
the dell-recovery package itself gives me an option to do this.

That's handy :)

I don't know what an EFI partition is, though.

It will be a small partition formatted as FAT32 .. and likely listed in GParted as "EFI System Partition", and mounted at "/boot/efi"

But at the end of the day if you decide to go that route you'd be deleting ALL partitions (leaving a disk with no partitions), so it doesn't really matter which is which ;)

Yes, the recovery tool worked and I now have a recovery iso.

On the other hand, uninstalling the dell-recovery package does not solve the problem. I'm puzzled by that particular error message I get (about the recovery option being only for Dell systems that came with Ubuntu pre-installed). Mine is exactly that, so I shouldn't get the error; makes me think of potential problems if I ever need to use that recovery USB.

I'm also curious about why the problems I described occur with the Peppermint live USB and not a Xubuntu live USB.

If anyone's had a similar experience, please do share. Perhaps it would be prudent for me to hear how it went for you before formatting the entire HDD on a brand new computer!

Thanks in advance.

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Installation / Re: Peppermint installation on Linux DELL Latitude 7280
« on: April 15, 2018, 05:43:26 am »
Could you recommend a way to make a backup of these recovery partitions I'm to delete?
Oops, the dell-recovery package itself gives me an option to do this. I don't know what an EFI partition is, though.

In the meanwhile, let me uninstall the dell-recovery package and try booting the live USB, then report back.

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Installation / Re: Peppermint installation on Linux DELL Latitude 7280
« on: April 15, 2018, 03:00:29 am »
@N

Are you interested in retaining the Dell recovery partition ?

No, though it would probably be prudent to have a copy on hand, if making one is possible?

and (whilst booted into Dells Ubuntu), can you post the output from:
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dpkg -l | grep dell

By Dell's Ubuntu, I suppose you mean just booting into the Ubuntu installed on the HDD of this computer. Here's the output when I run this command:
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ii  dell-e-star-tco                            0.05                                                all          Dell Energy Star + TCO
rc  dell-eula                                  1.06                                                all          Dell End User License Agreement
ii  dell-recovery                              1.48ubuntu2                                         all          Dell Recovery Media Creation Package
rc  dell-recovery-bootloader                   1.48ubuntu2                                         all          Bootloader configuration for Dell's factory process
ii  dell-recovery-casper                       1.48ubuntu2                                         all          Dell Recovery Casper Hooks
ii  dell-super-key                             0.04                                                all          Disables the super key by default.

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Installation / Re: Peppermint installation on Linux DELL Latitude 7280
« on: April 14, 2018, 03:27:33 am »
I'm having a very similar problem on my new Dell Latitude 3480 that came with an OEM install of Ubuntu 16.04. I've tried all the BIOS settings suggested on this thread, but I run into the same problems every time.

Here's what happens:
When I choose the "try without installing option", I see the Peppermint starting up screen, then enter what seems to be a Ubuntu 16.04 live session, not a Peppermint one. There is no install option any where.

When I choose the install option, see the Ubuntu background and a installation steps window that has the Dell logo on it, with this text:
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This Dell recovery medium can be used to restore the original factory software. It is recommended that you back up all important data before running this.
Underneath, there's an error message:
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Error: This recovery media only functions on Dell and Alienware systems purchased with Ubuntu.
The standard "Back" and "Continue" buttons are greyed out, only the "Quit" button works.

I successfully booted into to a Xubuntu live session on the same computer, and I only had to disable secure boot for it. Didn't need to enable Legacy or anything.

On the other hand, I used the same Peppermint USB stick to enter a live session on another computer, so the bootable USB itself is working just fine.

Like the OP, I'd really appreciate help figuring this out. This is to be my new main computer and I'd really like to install Peppermint on it; it's the OS I've become most comfortable using.

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New Users / Re: shutdown/ restart/ suspend buttons greyed out
« on: April 13, 2018, 11:32:00 pm »
What exactly is the issue here, is it that the power button in the whiskermenu is greyed out ? .. or is it that the PC won't shut down from the peppermint-logout screen ?

What happens if you open a terminal and run:
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peppermint-logoutdoes the logout dialogue appear, oor do you get an error ?

If the logout dialogue appears, does the shutdown button work ?

Sorry for the very late response, no internet access for two days.

I don't see a power button in the whisker menu, but when I add a sessions button to the panel, the shutdown, restart and suspend buttons are greyed out.

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peppermint-logout works though - I see the session menu and none of the buttons are greyed out. So I just added a launcher to the panel that runs this command.

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New Users / Re: shutdown/ restart/ suspend buttons greyed out
« on: April 11, 2018, 04:07:05 am »
When you shutdown from the terminal, does it work with
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poweroff

This shuts the computer down, pin. No sudo required.

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New Users / Re: shutdown/ restart/ suspend buttons greyed out
« on: April 11, 2018, 02:45:26 am »
I understand, Zeb. It can be frustrating for more experienced users and developers to answer the same basic questions over and over. I make it a point to search on forums and the web first, and post only if I can't find a solution/ understand the solutions posted. Sometimes it's better to have a more knowledgeable person guide you than to spend hours breaking everything on your computer, especially if doing so is not one of your hobbies!

On my Peppermint system back home, I added a button to the panel which makes a sessions menu pop up. I can't remember how I did it but I like it as a newbie-friendly solution.

Unfortunately, I didn't bring this computer with me while travelling outstation, so even the little tinkering I can do is not possible. I got a new laptop with Ubuntu pre-installed; I admire what Ubuntu does and used it for many years, but now having it as my OS gets on my nerves. I'm currently wading through a deluge of information about the new-fangled UEFI stuff because I cannot figure out how to add a USB drive to the boot device list on my new computer. The moment I can figure that out I'm installing Peppermint on it!

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New Users / Re: shutdown/ restart/ suspend buttons greyed out
« on: April 11, 2018, 02:04:22 am »
I did this first, Zeb, but couldn't figure out which one applied. Some answers deal with a home partition from another install (which I didn't keep), some with dual booting with another OS (which I didn't do), some with older versions of Peppermint (which I'm not familiar with).

The reason I asked again is because when noobs apply solutions they don't understand it can result in time-consuming losses; I tried restoring the panel to defaults. This didn't solve the problem and I lost all the panel settings I'd painstakingly created according to the user's preferences.

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