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Well, I installed compton, as well as the compton-config package lsited above. compton-config provides a GUI for tweaking the ~/.config/compton.conf file. The conf file that compton-config installs by default is wild and wooly, with way too much transparency and other effects that are both ugly and slow down the machine. I replaced it with the config file I found here ( and scroll down to "Configure Compton"), and now I can continue to tweak the configuration using compton-conf if I ever wish to.

I added compton to my autostart by creating the following desktop file in /home/avi/.config/autostart :

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[Desktop Entry]

And that was pretty much it. There are no arguments on the Exec line, because compton configures per the ~/.config/compton.conf file.

So I think I got everything right, and it looks great! Thanks for your help, PCNetSpec, and of course please do let me know if I've gotten anything wrong.

Thanks to both of you!  :D

What are you running Peppermint on? / Acer TravelMate 290
« on: June 27, 2014, 02:17:43 pm »
This is an eleven-year-old dinosaur, and it runs faster and smoother than it did on Windows XP when it was new. The software and desktop configurations are identical to those of my Aspire One, posted directly below this posting. I previously was running Peppermint 3 on this machine (Peppermint 4 would not install due to the non-PAE processor). Peppermint 5 installed effortlessly using forcepae.

Here's the inxi output:

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System:    Host: avi-TravelMate-290 Kernel:
3.13.0-29-generic i686 (32 bit) Desktop: N/A Distro: Pep
permint Five
Machine:   System: Acer product: TravelMate
290 version: 290
           Mobo: Intel model: 855GM ve
rsion: FAB-2 Bios: ACER version: V1.30 date:
CPU:       Single core Intel Pentium M (-UP-)
cache: 1024 KB flags: (pae sse sse2) clocked at
 1300.00 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics D
           X.Org: 1.15.1 drivers: intel (unl
oaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1024x768@61.3hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 852GM/855GM x86/
MMX/SSE2 GLX Version: 1.3 Mesa 10.1.3
Audio:     Card: Intel 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4
-M) AC'97 Audio Controller driver: snd_intel8x0
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture
ver: k3.13.0-29-generic
Network:   Card-1: Realtek RTL-8100/8101L/8139 PCI Fast
Ethernet Adapter driver: 8139too
           IF: eth0 state: down mac:
           Card-2: Intel PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini P
CI Adapter driver: ipw2100
           IF: eth1 state: up mac:
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 40.0GB (9.0% used) 1:
 id: /dev/sda model: TOSHIBA_MK4021GA size:
Partition: ID: / size: 36G used:
 3.4G (10%) fs: ext4 ID: swap-1 size: 1.05GB
 used: 0.01GB (1%) fs: swap
RAID:      No RAID devices detected - /proc/mdstat and md_mod kernel
 raid module present
Sensors:   None detected - is lm-sensors installed and configured?
Info:      Processes: 166 Uptime: 23:33
Memory: 474.2/986.1MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi:

What are you running Peppermint on? / Acer Aspire One D225-2509
« on: June 27, 2014, 02:06:21 pm »
Runs like a charm. I have customized upper and lower panels to mimic the Mint MATE installations I have on my faster machines. Doing that the first time is a little labor-intensive (much more so than on Mint, where you can install shortcuts directly on the panel), but the result looks and works great. My only reservations are (a) desktop effects do not play well with this graphics card (but I'm evaluating Compton now), and (b) I can't connect to Windows shares directly from the File Manager (as I do with Mint), but Gigolo is an easy fix for that. Here's my inxi output:

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System:    Host: avi-netbook Kernel: 3.13.0-
29-generic i686 (32 bit) Desktop: N/A Distro: Peppermint
Machine:   Mobo: Acer model: JE02_PT v
ersion: V3.13(DDR2) Bios: Acer version: V3.13(DDR2
) date: 12/23/2010
CPU:       Single core Intel Atom CPU N450 (-HT-)
cache: 512 KB flags: (lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3)
           Clock Speeds: 1: 1000.00 MHz
 2: 1666.00 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel Atom Processor D4xx/D5xx/N4xx/N5x
x Integrated Graphics Controller
           X.Org: 1.15.1 drivers: intel (unl
oaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1024x600@60.0hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel IGD x86/MMX/SSE2
 GLX Version: 1.4 Mesa 10.1.3
Audio:     Card: Intel NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition
Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture
ver: k3.13.0-29-generic
Network:   Card-1: Qualcomm Atheros AR9285 Wireless Netw
ork Adapter (PCI-Express) driver: ath9k
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac:
           Card-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR8152 v1.1 Fast Eth
ernet driver: atl1c
           IF: eth0 state: down mac:
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 160.0GB (2.6% used) 1:
 id: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD1600BEVT size:
Partition: ID: / size: 66G used:
 3.9G (7%) fs: ext4 ID: swap-1 size: 1.06GB
used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap
RAID:      No RAID devices detected - /proc/mdstat and md_mod kernel
 raid module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 44.0C mobo:
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 139 Uptime: 1 day
Memory: 432.1/991.4MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi:

Networking / Is Gigolo the Only/Best GUI Way to Mount Windows Shares?
« on: June 27, 2014, 01:55:05 pm »
Hi, all. I notice that File Manager PCManFM does not seem to have an automatic way of mounting Windows shares on my network via Samba, the way (for example) Nautilus and Caja do ("Connect to Server"). So I use Gigolo for this purpose. It's a perfectly adequate and friendly solution, but it is an extra step, so I was wondering whether there is an alternative method.

Also, is there anything useful in peppermint-networking-pack that I have not already covered by installing Gigolo? (I don't need to connect to a VPN.)

Thanks for all responses!

GNU/Linux Discussion / Re: Package Source Discussion
« on: June 27, 2014, 01:27:31 pm »
Thanks for moving the discussion, Kendall. As mentioned earlier, I'm new to the forum and did not realize I was going off topic. Thanks for your patience and indulgence.

PCNetSpec, I say again that it was not my intention to offend or be argumentative, and I apologize if I came off that way. I don't think the question of whether a particularly methodology should be described as "correct" or "incorrect" is a meaningless semantic argument at all, and I think it's particularly important when presenting information to beginners.

The mainstream, closed-source, corporate world of software (and hardware) is based on the premise that there is a "right" (company-approved) way of doing things and that every other way -- whether it works or not, whether it provides a better solution or not -- is "incorrect." If you want features, you need to pay for them, and they're only available in one color and flavor. If you develop a solution that provides a better solution without the pay, the company will void your warranty or block the installation. And in that world, "hack" is a dirty word.

In the Linux world, where "hack" can be a badge of honor, beginners arriving from the Windows world are well-trained in this corporate mindset, and they tend to view any original solution as a forbidden and evil transgression. In my view, when a user posts a solution in a Linux forum and says that it has worked for him, it's perfectly fine for someone else to comment on the risks inherent in that solution, but I don't think it's productive to tell a beginner that there is one "CORRECT" way to do things. I think this can encourage the one-right-way mentality that the beginner has already brought with him from the Windows world.

I wouldn't have had a problem if you had said "Installing the .deb of Skype 4.3 from the MS site will give you the benefit of better features and fewer bugs. The risks are that APT won't automatically update the software (although Microsoft will) and there is a small chance that the non-repository release could create system conflicts by replacing libraries and other packages that are compatible with your system with versions that aren't." I think new users should be encouraged to experiment responsibly, not to fear experimentation.

Once again, this is just my own opinion, I am not trying to start an argument, and I certainly mean no disrespect.

Incidentally, shouldn't my posting regarding the new features in Skype 4.3 go back in the Software forum? It's in response to a question about Skype.

GNU/Linux Discussion / Re: Package Source Discussion
« on: June 27, 2014, 10:50:24 am »
According to Microsoft (see my link above), Skype 4.3 has the following new features not included in 4.2:

  • An updated UI
  • Our new cloud-based Group Chat experience
  • More reliable file transfer support when using multiple devices at once
  • Greater accessibility by blind and visually impaired users
  • PulseAudio 3.0 and 4.0 support
  • Lot of bug fixes

Thanks, PCNetSpec. I'll give compton a try. How do you feel about the compton-conf ( GUI configuration tool for Compton? I'm happy to manually edit config files and use command options if I need to, but I feel safer with a GUI tool.

If I decide to autostart, am I correct that a viable way to do this is to write a .sh script with the appropriate command and then write a corresponding .desktop file that points to that script and place it in my ~/.config/autostart/ directory? This is what I have done, for example, with setxkbmap to get my keyboard layouts to autostart.

Thanks again for your help with this.

GNU/Linux Discussion / Package Source Discussion
« on: June 27, 2014, 10:34:36 am »
PCNetSpec, I am new to this forum (though not a Linux newbie by any means), and I want to tread lightly and respectfully. Please understand that I mean no offense in what I am about to say.

In my view, one of the great pluses of Open Source (and of the GNU/Linux in particular) is that there is no central corporate authority dictating what is the "correct" and "incorrect" way of doing things. The beauty of Linux, in my view, is that it frees users and developers from that mindset and allows them to attempt to do things their own way. That is not to say that there should not be "best practices" and "tried and true" solutions, or that proven, accepted development and implementation standards should be scrapped in favor of maverick freedoms -- that would be a recipe for chaos.

Undoubtedly, repositories exist for a reason and they are a good thing. But users also install packages from outside repositories all the time. Some download packages from the manufacturer's website, as I have done with skype. Others compile their own from source, others modify the source, others force an old release or block an upgrade to avoid a bug. All of these are legitimate choices in an open source environment (though they would not be in, for example, the Microsoft world.) The choice to download a version from outside a repository is a conscious one. Like any choice, it comes with risks and benefits. I'm therefore not sure it's constructive to label someone else's solution as "the [in the singular] CORRECT way," thus implying that everyone else's suggestions are "INCORRECT." In my view, this misses the point of open source. The true question, I believe, should be: What are the risks and benefits?

Skype is not the only package I have installed from the developer's website; I also use openoffice (a .deb downloaded straight from Apache's website) rather than libre, because of multiple issues with libre that have yet to be fixed. Openoffice is not included in PeppermintOS by default, nor in the default repositories.

You state that my "incorrect" choice is risky, but you don't say what those risks are. I'm happy to learn. From what I have seen specifically to skype 4.3 and openoffice, and specifically to my own system, my out-of-repository installations of these packages work better than the repository alternatives (skype 4.2 and libre). I realize that by definition, if I download software from outside the repository, it will not be updated from within the repository -- but in both cases, it will be updated by the manufacturer. Both Apache and Microsoft have built automatic update mechanisms into their packages. So what is the risk?

Once again, I mean no disrespect in my comments, and I apologize if I am speaking out of turn.

Thanks, PCNetSpec. Yes, please -- I'd love to know how to use the "compton" compsitor. If it's not too complicated, I'll give it a try. Otherwise, I can totally live without the shadows and translucency. I look forward to your post.

Software & Applications / Re: Acer Aspire One 150 A0A ZG5
« on: June 26, 2014, 07:18:33 pm »
1.) Does someone know how I get this webcam working?
2.) I want to install MS Skype for Linux. On my Acer netbook. But the packages I found on the Skype website are for Ubuntu 12.04. So is it possible to install that package on Peppermint5 (Ubuntu 14.04)?
3.) I did not changed any preferences to the Software Updater. When I run System Tools/Software Updater it search end present me with a list of 'Security updates' and 'Other updates'. I assume that I can these updates safely without ruin my Peppermint installation. Is this correct.
4.) On my Windows laptop I'm running Anti Virus software, Anti Malware software and a Firewall. How do other Peppermint users protect their system? Which package should I use?
5.) And of course I'm really interested in, and loking forward to the updated Peppermint5 tutorial of Mark Greaves for the Acer Aspire One ZG5 (150 A0A). Containing fixes for batterylife, stopping the fan from being constantly on etc.

Hi, Klipper. I just recently installed Peppermint 5 on my own Aspire One, and it runs like a charm. Here are my solutions to your issues. I don't guarantee that they're the best, but they're great for me.

1. I installed VLC (sudo apt-get install vlc). Then I created the following text file using Text Editor, and saved it as /home/{my username}/.local/share/applications under the name of webcam.desktop :

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[Desktop Entry]
Name=Test Webcam
Comment=Display Webcam on VLC
Exec=vlc v4l2:///dev/video0

Note that the Icon line refers to a specific icon which I placed in a folder called Icons under my home folder.

It is then available as a menu option under "Sound & Video." I personally have my most-used apps set up as Application Launcher icons in my upper panel, and Test Webcam is one of them -- but that's a question you didn't ask.

2. I installed the Skype package for Ubuntu 12.04 on Peppermint 5, and it runs great. I personally like this newer release (4.3) better than the one that is on the Canonical Partners repository (4.2). New features in this release are listed here.

3. I agree with mac's response.

4. I have been using Linux for over a decade (started with Fedora, switched to Ubuntu, and now have Mint MATE running on my faster machines and Peppermint 5 on my slower ones), and have never needed virus or malware software. It's just not a problem in the Linux world.

Thanks, PCNetSpec. Yes, disabling the compositor solves the problem. Syncing to vertical blank has a negligible effect. It's a shame to have to give up the shadow effects and translucency, but it looks like that's the only way to solve the problem. Thanks again for your help.

No, that's not the main issue for me, and I'm not sure that is the issue described in the release notes. What happens with me is that when I switch to another workspace, only a portion of the screen is refreshed, and most of the screen continues to display artifacts from what was showing on the previous workspace. The only way I can refresh the new workspace is either to drag my cursor around it, or to maximize and then unmaximize an app on that screen.

Hi, all. First of all, kudos to Kendall and the team on a fantastic release of a wonderful distro. I have Peppermint running on two machines: an Acer TravelMate 290 (I'm running Peppermint 3 due to PAE issues, but will try to intall Peppermint 5 using forcepae), and an Acer Aspire One. They both run smoothly and pretty fast, considering the dinosaur processors and low RAM on these machines.

I do have one small disappointment with Peppermint 5, though, which is the screen refresh glitch that occurs when using the Page Switcher to switch workplaces. Most bugs in new distros are not a big thing and get fixed (or workarounded) quickly, but this one actually comes with a dire warning in the Release Notes stating that it will probably never be fixed. :( I understand that this is an lxpanel issue and not a Peppermint issue, but is there some workaround or remedy for this? Perhaps forcing an older version of lxpanel?

Thanks again for a great distro, and I'd appreciate any advice.


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