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Hardware / Re: Video Tearing while SLI fishing on SKYLAKE
« on: September 15, 2017, 03:05:46 am »
Have you tried what's mentioned in this video
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If you're using nvidia 365.20 or newer be sure to see the notes under the video as nVidia have now added a GUI method of applying Force Full Composition Pipeline.

Or see this topic,2874

NO -- i did not do that -- well I did, but only about 15 mins before your post, so yes i did, but just barely before your post,  no luck --- had another issue with the drivers so i went and installed 375.82 or something

got windows 7 running inside mint 6, will check that out and edit this post with another picture

this one under windows 7 -- VMware, so i dunno, unless linux not passing the right stuff over to vmware,  now i get a Nvidia in the dmesg | grep fail too, think they up there, when the 384.69 drivers flaked on me and installed the 375.82 --- also notice, the drivers section, all options greyed out no matter what, though i am sure i can still disable lightdm and use the nvidia run files if i wanted,  looking like a mess for sure

gotta be something stupid,  something im overlooking, going to try install some driver changes in the vmware section first unless ya got better ideas, im all game ,  the screen tear is hardly noticable when watching live, not as bad as these pictures make it look to be, I'm sure the screenshot just faster than the eye , but under heavy effects, ya can tell she be tearing

Hardware / Re: Video Tearing while SLI fishing on SKYLAKE
« on: September 13, 2017, 04:49:26 am »
First thing to try (to eliminate screen tearing) would be to see if disabling desktop effects in the Peppermint Control Center makes any difference ?

LOL -- I thought that was the first thing to try if you where memory hungry like me ?  ---  LOL, sorry I shoulda said something about that, Yupperz, was already turned off , no Eye-CANdy, Windows 10 gave me enought of that

the best eye-candy in the world can slow down the biggest supercomputer in the universe , I'll blame it on Ancient Aliens  -- LOL

playing with these NVenc stuff, but I'm prolly just braking it even worse


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default@silver ~ $ nvidia-smi
Wed Sep 13 05:24:33 2017       
| NVIDIA-SMI 384.69                 Driver Version: 384.69                    |
| GPU  Name        Persistence-M| Bus-Id        Disp.A | Volatile Uncorr. ECC |
| Fan  Temp  Perf  Pwr:Usage/Cap|         Memory-Usage | GPU-Util  Compute M. |
|   0  GeForce GTX 970     Off  | 00000000:01:00.0  On |                  N/A |
|  5%   62C    P0    47W / 170W |    490MiB /  4092MiB |      1%      Default |
|   1  GeForce GTX 970     Off  | 00000000:02:00.0 Off |                  N/A |
|  0%   35C    P8    14W / 170W |    490MiB /  4092MiB |      3%      Default |
| Processes:                                                       GPU Memory |
|  GPU       PID  Type  Process name                               Usage      |
|    0      1467    G   /usr/bin/X                                     359MiB |
|    0      4267    G   guvcview                                         5MiB |
|    0     16383    G   /usr/lib/firefox/firefox                         3MiB |
|    0     17672    G   ...el-token=31CB4B55A46B8260FB3A871CDDCB67CE    99MiB |
|    1      1467    G   /usr/bin/X                                     359MiB |
|    1      4267    G   guvcview                                         5MiB |
|    1     16383    G   /usr/lib/firefox/firefox                         3MiB |
|    1     17672    G   ...el-token=31CB4B55A46B8260FB3A871CDDCB67CE    99MiB |

Hardware / Video Tearing while SLI fishing on SKYLAKE
« on: September 12, 2017, 10:10:20 pm »
I was thinking more of just disabling hyperthreading temporarily as a test (VMWARE will still work), if it eliminates the freezes we can look into the microcode update that fixes the hyperthreading issue.


Looking at your pic, you might also want to look into (or start a topic about) solutions for that screen tearing in the video.

LOL, thanx to PCNetSpec,  Yes I've noticed this before, but in actuality it is worse via screenshot than it is while watching live the last picture will really jump out,  and of course, now that somebody actually pointed this out to me, i can off and on now start to notice this video tearing , it has to be something im doing wrong, either in bios or in the setup, the above picture is with PEPPERMINT 8 but of course being a memory hungry person, the rest of the pictures are Peppermint 6 and SIX is also my current setup if somebody has any ideas or solutions to play with

so long story short, because of a SANDYBRIDGE blowup, I ended up getting a SKYLAKE replacement just before xmas time last year,  I've been all over the place distro-hopping trying to get the best performance for both KODI and VMWARE, so needless to say, I always end up back here in peppermint land, cause it really is so much easier out of the box to get this tripple monitor setup going.  SKYLAKE 6700k / two EVGA GTX 970 (SLI) one is the SC (SUPER CLOCK) and the other just normal EVGA they are both 970's maybe one day when i build up courage i can research a nvidia firmware mod to bring them both into (SUPER CLOCK) wich really aint that much different.

The three BenQ GL2460  monitors are all on one card -- first sli setup, but dual boot windows wich wants them all on one card fro SLI --- one card gets now to 60+ wile the other hovers in the 30's -- so I am thinking of putting them back the way i had them still with the sli cable but broken up -- the LEFT monitor is named SPLITTER -- actually hooks up to one splitter, then to another , basically giving both Living-Room and Bedroom the LEFT monitor and sound via HDMI, because of splitting twice my last setup was the LEFT was on one card --  while CENTER and RIGHT was on the other card, this would even out the tempatures more, but again WINDOWS would NOT accept that setup for SLI Cinavision or what not --- so putting things back my original setup might be option, but i think it was tearing then too,

k, sorry for the ramble, just want to give all information and that means sharing the splitter -- setup like this is actually nice for me, can utilize the center and right screens to goof around, while watching kodi or vlc on the left, at same time duplicating / splitting into the bedroom 42" TV aswell as 55"Livingroom TV  ----

***TROUBLESHOOT NOTE -- the last two pictures i bring the video to center screen, so as to take the SPLITTER out , still tears, maybe worse

k, Tried different 4.4 kernels aswell as 3.19 kernel im on now with peppermint 6 -- there is a HAUPPAGE 2250 TV TUNER card that shows up in the DMESG | GREP FAIL  command in pictures as the phillips semiconductors SAA7154 -- , its there but have not installed that driver yet , supposed to be easier with the 3.19 kernel i just installed , dont think that would cause my issue

also notice a i915 intel audio messup, but im not even using the HDMI / intel audio, got that in bios to not use ,  so confused why thats even showing up, even the intel thunderboldt is fully disabled in bios,

im just at my wits end , gotta be something silly or stupid that im missing , being new to BOTH - Linux and SLI setups , I know and have read that Linux really dont like Nvidia SLI setups , prolly why i notice duriing some distro-hopping that it just be royal pain in the gutter to get these three monitors working  --- if ya got any ideas , let me know, Ill check back from time to time and update this soon as i can

here be the rest of info --- first two, on left side monitor with bunch stuff loaded to basically see my free ram --  the last two on the center monitor wich is NOT SPLITTED anywhere --  thanx again


center monitor / full screen mode sample

after previous picture -- if curious what desktop is on tripple monitor, wish it blended better, but it is what it is, not allot of tripple monitor wolves , its all good

lets just hope AMD still stays back in the game , we need these prices to come down, the price i paid last X-mas for replacing a SANDYBRIDGE 2600k and Nvidia 550 FERMI was ridiculas,  one would think video tearing would be obsolete with couple GTX 970's , but i guess I'm the exception to the rule -- lol -- thanx in advance

******* EDIT NOTE -- adding some dpkg greps here -- before im asked -- wow, some old stuff in there, prolly cause its peppermint six
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default@silver ~ $ inxi -Gxxxz
Graphics:  Card-1: NVIDIA GM204 [GeForce GTX 970] bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:13c2
           Card-2: NVIDIA GM204 [GeForce GTX 970] bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:13c2
           X.Org: 1.16.0 driver: nvidia Resolution: 1920x1080@60.0hz, 1920x1080@60.0hz, 1920x1080@60.0hz
           GLX Renderer: GeForce GTX 970/PCIe/SSE2 GLX Version: 4.5.0 NVIDIA 384.69 Direct Rendering: Yes
why do i confuse myself so? -- why is 384.69 not listed below? -- its listed above, maybe dpkg only lists non-beta drivers -- either case 375.66 was tried in P8 and P6 before i jumped to 384's
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default@silver ~ $ dpkg -l | grep nvidia
rc  nvidia-304                                  304.135-0ubuntu0.14.04.1                                    amd64        NVIDIA legacy binary driver - version 304.135
rc  nvidia-375                                  375.66-0ubuntu0.14.04.1                                     amd64        NVIDIA binary driver - version 375.66
rc  nvidia-opencl-icd-304                       304.135-0ubuntu0.14.04.1                                    amd64        NVIDIA OpenCL ICD
rc  nvidia-opencl-icd-375                       375.66-0ubuntu0.14.04.1                                     amd64        NVIDIA OpenCL ICD
ii  nvidia-prime                                                                           amd64        Tools to enable NVIDIA's Prime
ii  nvidia-settings                             346.59-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.04.1                               amd64        Tool for configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver
default@silver ~ $ dpkg -l | grep cuda
rc  libcuda1-304                                304.135-0ubuntu0.14.04.1                                    amd64        NVIDIA CUDA runtime library
rc  libcuda1-375                                375.66-0ubuntu0.14.04.1                                     amd64        NVIDIA CUDA runtime library
default@silver ~ $ dpkg -l | grep xserver-xorg
rc  xserver-xorg                                1:7.7+1ubuntu8.1                                            amd64        X.Org X server
rc  xserver-xorg-core                           2:1.15.1-0ubuntu2.7                                         amd64        Xorg X server - core server
ii  xserver-xorg-core-lts-utopic                2:1.16.0-1ubuntu1.2~trusty2                                 amd64        Xorg X server - core server
ii  xserver-xorg-input-all-lts-utopic           1:7.7+7ubuntu2~trusty1                                      amd64        X.Org X server -- input driver metapackage
ii  xserver-xorg-input-evdev-lts-utopic         1:2.9.0-1ubuntu2~trusty1                                    amd64        X.Org X server -- evdev input driver
ii  xserver-xorg-input-mouse-lts-utopic         1:1.9.0-1build2~trusty1                                     amd64        X.Org X server -- mouse input driver
ii  xserver-xorg-input-synaptics-lts-utopic     1.8.1-1ubuntu1~trusty1                                      amd64        Synaptics TouchPad driver for X.Org server
ii  xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse-lts-utopic       1:13.0.0-1build2~trusty1                                    amd64        X.Org X server -- VMMouse input driver to use with VMWare
ii  xserver-xorg-input-wacom-lts-utopic         1:0.25.0-0ubuntu1~trusty1                                   amd64        X.Org X server -- Wacom input driver
ii  xserver-xorg-lts-utopic                     1:7.7+7ubuntu2~trusty1                                      amd64        X.Org X server
ii  xserver-xorg-video-all-lts-utopic           1:7.7+7ubuntu2~trusty1                                      amd64        X.Org X server -- output driver metapackage
ii  xserver-xorg-video-ati-lts-utopic           1:7.4.0-2ubuntu2~trusty1                                    amd64        X.Org X server -- AMD/ATI display driver wrapper
ii  xserver-xorg-video-cirrus-lts-utopic        1:1.5.2-2build1~trusty1                                     amd64        X.Org X server -- Cirrus display driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-fbdev-lts-utopic         1:0.4.4-1build2~trusty1                                     amd64        X.Org X server -- fbdev display driver
rc  xserver-xorg-video-intel                    2:2.99.910-0ubuntu1.4                                       amd64        X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-intel-lts-utopic         2:2.99.914-1~exp1ubuntu4.5~trusty1                          amd64        X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-mach64-lts-utopic        6.9.4-2~trusty1                                             amd64        X.Org X server -- ATI Mach64 display driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-mga-lts-utopic           1:1.6.3-2build1~trusty1                                     amd64        X.Org X server -- MGA display driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-modesetting-lts-utopic   0.9.0-1build1~trusty1                                       amd64        X.Org X server -- Generic modesetting driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-neomagic-lts-utopic      1:1.2.8-1build2~trusty1                                     amd64        X.Org X server -- Neomagic display driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-nouveau-lts-utopic       1:1.0.11-1ubuntu2~trusty1                                   amd64        X.Org X server -- Nouveau display driver
rc  xserver-xorg-video-openchrome               1:0.3.3-1build1                                             amd64        X.Org X server -- VIA display driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-openchrome-lts-utopic    1:0.3.3-1build2~trusty1                                     amd64        X.Org X server -- VIA display driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-r128-lts-utopic          6.9.2-1build2~trusty1                                       amd64        X.Org X server -- ATI r128 display driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-radeon-lts-utopic        1:7.4.0-2ubuntu2~trusty1                                    amd64        X.Org X server -- AMD/ATI Radeon display driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-savage-lts-utopic        1:2.3.7-2ubuntu3~trusty1                                    amd64        X.Org X server -- Savage display driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion-lts-utopic 1:1.7.7-2build2~trusty1                                     amd64        X.Org X server -- SiliconMotion display driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-sisusb-lts-utopic        1:0.9.6-2build2~trusty1                                     amd64        X.Org X server -- SiS USB display driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-tdfx-lts-utopic          1:1.4.5-1build2~trusty1                                     amd64        X.Org X server -- tdfx display driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-trident-lts-utopic       1:1.3.6-0ubuntu6~trusty1                                    amd64        X.Org X server -- Trident display driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-vesa-lts-utopic          1:2.3.3-1build2~trusty1                                     amd64        X.Org X server -- VESA display driver
rc  xserver-xorg-video-vmware                   1:13.0.2-2ubuntu1                                           amd64        X.Org X server -- VMware display driver
ii  xserver-xorg-video-vmware-lts-utopic        1:13.0.2-3ubuntu1~trusty1                                   amd64        X.Org X server -- VMware display driver

User Submitted Tutorials / Re: Setting up fsprotect
« on: September 12, 2017, 02:33:00 am »
I was thinking more of just disabling hyperthreading temporarily as a test (VMWARE will still work), if it eliminates the freezes we can look into the microcode update that fixes the hyperthreading issue.


Looking at your pic, you might also want to look into (or start a topic about) solutions for that screen tearing in the video.

Couldn't agree more about sandybridge i7's .. monsters .. and great to see AMD back in the game, which will hopefully drive down prices.
(would be nice to see some Ryzen powered laptops appear)

[EDIT 2]

Maybe even an EPYC laptop (with a battery on a little trailer you drag behind you or a backpack ?) .. okay maybe that's stretching it, Threadripper though..... :)

I cried so hard when the Sandybridge died,  and to be honest I dont know if it was the Motherboard or the CPU, I have since bought reconditioned asus 77 board to replace the 67 i had, just havenot had time to play with it,  I am sure we are all in agreement,  no matter if intel or AMD fans , we seriously cant be having CPU's still out-bench other cpu's after 5 years,  thats why i cried, I mean the skylake here prolly could out-bench it, but just barely -- anyways maybe i did something wrong with my skylake peppermint-6 combination -- after you mentioned the bios settings i figured i would give it a go -- specially at looking at that video tear and the memory usage

I understand peppermint 6 is outdated, and i should stop expecting peppermint 7 or 8 to compete with 6,  case in point VLC running, guvcview, and kodi, jarvis -- all hanging around 750-850mb ram --  throw in the browser and she hovers around 1.1gb ram --- this was all this morning before i installed something i shouldnt have or what not, the top buttons on any window disapeared and anyways, i've formated since -- again with peppermint 6

i do see the video tear hard in the pictures, not so much live, VLC always gave me grief though, and such i normally use kodi -- thanx again for your insight, i will start another thread soon as i get everything half-way stable again,

User Submitted Tutorials / Re: Setting up fsprotect
« on: September 09, 2017, 10:58:37 pm »
this dang skylake just cant seem to order peppermint 6 around very well

Does disabling hyperthreading in the BIOS make a difference ?,5763.0.html

be honest, no i did not try that, comes disabled by default and i crank it back on,  maybe i gotta research that, but i use VMWARE Workstation allot, so I just assumed with the skylake i had to re-enable that setting

seriously, its not that big of a deal, it is , but its not,  the Sandybridge had 64gb ram so i was loving how pepermint 6 would boot up so resource friendly / free,  then of course 7 and 8 came out and though still resource friendly, especially when compared to microsoft win7 - 8 - or 10 --- was hooked on peppermint the second i stumbled on it, as for me, it would boot up, maybe 500-700mb ram used out of 64gb, plenty of left over room for virtual machines and the running of such.

seriously i cried when that sandybridge died , at the time, skylake was the only option unless i waited a month or two for the kaby, this is all before AMD finally stepped there game up again, hard to believe that the old Sandybridge was still smokin after 5 years,  growing up this was un-heard of, if you had a CPU for 5 years, you had a slow computer,  seriously, i am so glad AMD got back in the game maybe we will all benifit --- anyways --- Skylake and the DDR4 is now down to 32gb ram -- the 2600k was DDR3 so thats why

dont get me wrong, peppermint still my stong suite, and I thank ALL OF YA for this,  PEPPERMINT 8 still way resource friendly than Win7 or above, just came from format myself as I do like to push the system as much as possible ,  I just dream of the days i would boot up, and only 450-550mb ram was used, then if i ran the system for few hours or few days, Peppermint 6 would not use anything over 1gb unless i was using a virtual machine

when i experianced 700-800mb usage with peppermint 7 (this with skylake) -- i paniced, I tried to install 6, and it worked, but it was not the same  64gb vs 32gb maybe, but i doubt it, just seems that the sandybridge would own peppermint 6 ,  would not even bat a eyelash, ---  this skylake can not say that, atleast not with confidience

again, appreciate your suggestion, esspecially ontop of this thread, i did not mean to hijack it without starting a new topic,  peppermint 6 is getting old, soon that 14.04 going to be history aswell,  of course if memory serves, the 16.04 kernel update offered in peppermint 6 did help allitile  but so many lock ups and freezes, it was time to come back to 7, of course now 8 --- AGAIN, PEPPERMINT ROX!!! i wont lie, i distro-hop allot, but I always come back,  Peppermint just works out of the box with little mess or fuss,  i like that -- I thank Y'all for making my life so much easier ---

thank ya

*** pic of the triple monitor, couple VLC windows open , fiew different things thrown back in,  distro-hopping is not easy with dual GTX 970 sli --- this is just after bootup as told by INXI -- VMWARE not installed yet, but will be soon as i can dig up my licence again -- thank Y'all -- seriously -- not complaining at all -- it is a bummer, but nothing new, i will survive, who knows peppermint 9 is next, then maybe Peppermint X (10) -- maybe that Peppermint X will remind me of Peppermint 6 -- it is all good

User Submitted Tutorials / Re: Setting up fsprotect
« on: September 06, 2017, 10:31:16 pm »
Just a little side dish.  There is a project called "parted magic" that loads the whole OS on to RAM and the USB stick can be removed.  I don't think it is in the debian universe anywhere.  I just mention it because of the technique they used not the OS relationship to Linux.

well I'm retarded,  I always thought that was part of grub --- like my "NOMODESET" I gotta add on any distro i pretty experiment with,  I always added that inbetween the QUIET and SPLASH <--- seems to help with allot of these distro's when it comes to my dual nvidia gtx 970's and tripple monitors,  so anyways, sometimes i would throw a TORAM at the end sorta like a HELL MARY, buckle up and hold on,  needless to say after reading this last part of thread i had to do a google search and found a couple wiki's that had listings of linux distro's that supported "TORAM"  like your parted magic, few others listed mainly in the puppy or slack family, but surprisingly a few Debian's listed aswell. wont bore ya with links cause im sure they be a no no, I've been tossing myself around distro land all over the place and I keep coming back to peppermint cause it just freaking works with minimal hassle just wish my i7-2600k did not blow up, had peppermint 6 smoking on that,  this dang skylake just cant seem to order peppermint 6 around very well,  anyways

tmpfs; by mounting a tmpfs and running files that are placed on this, files and programs can be run from RAM, even on Linux distros that do not run completely in RAM

that was listed on that wiki i was browsing,, kinda lost me there, but might be a good snippet to keep around in the back filing cabnet -- just incase somebody tells you cant -- prolly best bet would be to google TORAM MINT assuming that they be a close relative should end ya up on the wiki below (unless the modderator allows this one link)

either case, looks like there is a few different ways of doing the ram bit with TORAM, TMPFS, or some CASPER SCRIPTS

HYPER LINK REMAINED INTACT as it was only a helpful wiki link


do not ask me how I did it --- it was more than a "HAIL MARY" --- "DESPERADO" type thing --- but i can now atleast for this post put (SOLVED) on it  8) 8) 8)

basically after my last post, I went back into synaptic manager --- started searching for X11 - .ORG - NVIDIA - PULSEA - ALSA --- then i started installing what looked like what I might need.   Actually, if ya look at that picture, -- nevermind, ya can't see the PACKAGE count, some idiot (ME) covered it up with KODI and VMware --- anyways, i have 2000+ packages installed now, -- more than the first picture way up top. ---- NO BIG DEAL

IT'S WORKING NOW --- i gotta back stuff up, clone the drive, do something, before i mess it up again --- that was close --- and YES, I WILL have to format again soon --- still gotta set-up / learn / then TWEAK the crud out of some more settings as everything is resting on that 500gb 850 EVO SSD ---- stupid me left a swap partition and obviously i have some grub and fstab stuff to play with

thanx again for putting up with my rambles --- Linux is far from easy, -- not when ya been stuck in Billy Boy Gate's Imaginary-Land for the past 20 years --- but its all good

moral and lesson of the story?

1) do not install multiple programs via ".sh" SCRIPT file --- thats what I did to get the wrong old 14.04 versions of screenfetch and other PPA's into there ------ I gotta fix my script file up with updated settings


2) not sure where i read it, --- somewhere in google-ville --- Pulseaudio and Alsa are NOT two seperate things --- they are, but they are not, specially if your running vbox or vmware ---- install them both ---- think in my case --- it was the Hauppauge Tv-Tuner Card I plopped in there just recently ----  i'll play with all that later and make sure it works after i clone this partition

3--- never give up --- Linux not difficult like it was few years back --- Linux is like a growing child, kinda really is neat watching it grow up the way it has ---- 

4) -- gotta listen to  -- PCNetSpec --- seriously, read allot of posts and people like that are valuable to all of the Newbeez like myself --- seriously, stumbled on that "DEVELOPMENT" version of screenfetch just before i saw your post, --- not PPA final version but beta --- gotta find that again --- another day, --- gotta wait atleast a week before i break this computer again --- LOL

thanks again all ----

========================== edit note -- posted while PcNetSpec and Murraymint replied --  will stock up on tranquillizers next time -- there will be next time I am sure --- but thanx to Murraymint, I now have to research again Gparted, -- I did not know i could clone with that --- i played with so many cloner's ---  its all good,

thanx again Ya two

No it's pretty safe to simply disable the 2 ppa's that are giving the error.

to disable them, (in the window that's showing bottom right), simply remove the ticks from both of the tualtrix ppa's, and both of the djcj ppa's

Personally (unless they're single application ppa's) I disable PPA's once I've installed something from them anyway .. I see leaving them enabled as a larger risk to system stability as you never know if/when they'll put some library in them that messes with dependencies for other stuff on your system.

There's a xenial  version of screenfetch in the default repos anyway ???

Yea, saw that one updated, not from that PPA site though, and not till after the temper tantrum of watching ERROR messages block my view

Hey, what can I say? --- I gave it a shot, --- I gave it 2 shots, and in trying to make this error go away, and googling all over the world, I managed to jack it up even more

sad too, think i was side tracked by the squirel that jumped over my monitor chasing the wireless mouse around the living room or something --- saw some neat codec's for KODI and was going for it,  then i went into synaptic manager and wow --- mouse clicked too fast ------- take a look at that picture again --- nice sound card I got

ended up screwing up my drivers and in the process destroying my PULSE AUDIO --- did read somewhere ALSA would work, so I jumped right in and gave it a shot as INXI is so nice to point out.

tried rolling back kernel's -- had the 24, 28, and 31 all still in there, nothing would work --- so threw another temper --- got rid of ALSA after this picture above ---- tried to beg for mercy with Synaptic Manager --- to no avail

3 hours later of trying to get Nvidia drivers or X-Org drivers to work again, now my screen dropped resultion --- my 2nd (MIRRORED) monitor shut off, --- Peppermint Patty got mad at me,


Why Would Peppermint Patty get mad at me you might ask? ----  Well, I can say this, I've learned allot from all around this Linux World these past 8 months, -- really been boosting things up, Tweaking settings, making things just a tad faster or better yet... in this desert heat -- making things run a tad cooler ---- We all Know Customization is tricky, and especially when ya be like me and raised on Microsoft these past 20+ years, then ditch Billy Boy Gates for something with little more privacy and control --- last fall, when Windows 10 screwed up them Nvidia drivers, I was a victim -- i leave my computer on 24/7 and always turn off automatic updates for that reason

anyways -- Rambling again I know --- when I plopped in that 32gb 2133 ram in there, I also decided to plop in that old Hauppauge 2250 TV Tuner card  --- people have gotten them to work with Linux no big deal right? ---- so the picture above even says 404 on the PEPPERMINT DVD --- same error as the screenfetch PPA ---- something has to be jacked up -- look at PCManFM on the very left,  you can see the DVD is in there,  ---- figured the DVD might be useful for something

guess not -------

finally people can see from previous posts of mine, my journey,  just like that old style start menu instead of the Whiskers Double Pane garbage, I like my Old School ,  ya can also see, though INXI don't really see it, on the right side, I did finally get the Hauppauge drivers in there --- dont know if it works cause my screen is shrunk, PulseAudio got mad at me and the whole world is comming to end

as of right now I don't know what to do --- it looks like another format is in order ----

this bites --- gotta find me a good backup program so I dont have to keep on customizing this stuff ---

and I was honestly ---> <--- that close to being finished ---

atleast I'm Learning --- what I'm Learning I don't know, ----  talk about brain over-load these past couple months ---

No worries, I'll take a break for few hours, -- If I decide to just format and start over -- I will give Peppermint Se7en Her 3rd shot --- She does run faster and cooler than others ---  but maybe Peppermint Patty just dont like me

lets hope I dont have to format again --- already need to reinstall Peppermint 6 on my Toshiba Laptop --- 7 is on there now, tempermental because AMD has not updated 16.04 drivers yet ---

if anybody has magic tricks to fix this 2600k back up ---- please inform me ---- might try taking the Hauppauge out and uninstall and hope that fixes PulseAudio and Nvidia --- not now --- gotta cry first :*


if this is not a Nevvbie question, then I don't know what is --- can say this much --- over-all I am really pleased with the SE7EN CREW  8) 8) 8)

KINDA CRAZY since my last question, installed 32gb 2133 -- low and behold, something crashed on one of my HDD's --- had to re-install Peppermint Se7en all over again, tricky when ya hate the start menu, and go customizing it so it looks and acts like the Win98 start menu --- but its getting there, and PEPPERMINT ROXXX!!

got Windows 7 Enterprise x64 running inside that VMWARE in the above picture, got KODI blaring some tunes , --- just crazy how Peppermint Se7en is working on this Sandybridge i7-2600k --- something Peppermint 6 could NOT do --- and for that all I can do is send much needed love to the entire crew --- its nice running all this stuff, OC'd to 4.5ghz and sticking around 30c on her ----- hard to believe this old computer is over 5yrs old and still sings pretty -- not really a gamer, so this old setup keeps pounding away. and making m e happy

of course, with all that said, intel really been slipping on bannana peels ever since the sandybridge release --- yes the skylakes are nice, they are fast, but seriously? -- barely faster with everyday tasks than a well tuned 2600k? ---- remember when I had to buy a new computer every 6-12months just to keep up with the technology --- honestly --- I am really disapointed ---- not even going to concider a new computer till one becomes twice as fast in benchmarks ---- think I might be stuck with this 2600k for another 5yrs ---- ANYWAYS


SCREENFETCH --- we all love it, that along with INXI and I-NEX -- we can all pretty much see whats going on inside our computers without actually opening up the case ------------- SO HERE IS MY NEWBIE question

Y'all see my error above or below --- happens everytime i update, went to the site, and guess they don't really have a Xenial version yet -- SO -- TO AVOID THESE ERRORS CAN i ?

1) can I just delete the screenfetch and other PPA? --- if I do this... is this a bad habbit to get into?
what I mean is this.... If I delete the screenfetch and SVP (Smooth Video Player) PPA's and leave the programs intact --- will there be dependencies to these that get screwed up / over-written maybe 6-12 months in a misterious future update ?

or can I just delete the PPA's and not worry about it?

I really have not gotten the SVP to work like it should yet --- sounds kewel though -- turning video's into smooth 60fps instead of 24 or 29 --- but personally i am hooked on KODI ---- still , SVP did look like a neat toy to play with ---- maybe I should just delete both screenfetch and SVP and suffer without them, un-install the programs, and delete the PPA's and live happilly ever after with no errors.

but that is not the point of learning, --- been such a kewel ride these past 8 months in Linux land --- ever since I left Windows and that spyware they have for a OS ---- but I guess thats the way of the future --- track ya, tack ya, then smack ya around ---- there really aint no such thing as privacy no more,

anyways --- thanx again for Peppermint Se7en --- this computer has not ran this cool in long time, -- amazing how fast things can be when the garbage dont get all loaded up first ---

just would be kewel if there was a way to fix ithis error without deleting the entire PPA or un-installing the programs

thanx for any suggestions

Yep, we decided on an IN YOUR FACE brash (some may even say gaudy) look this time around, but it WAS intentional .. guess it worked then :))

Five "Black Stars" for your comment ;)

WOW -- actually glad somebody brought this up --- now lets not forget to remind the user to mark this thread as "SOLVED" --- maybe even "SOLVENT" :p

Hi, crazyodaz and welcome to the forum :)

See this posting:,3712.msg37316.html#msg37316
is that what you mean ?

yes and no .... and thank you --- LOL

seems the terminal command ---
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was all I needed --- went back into the main panel settings and added a custom "LAUNCHER" like what the picture shows

now when i click the shutdown on bottom left -- the menu pops up

IMPORTANT NOTE --- my "START BUTTON" is just applications launcher -- it is NOT whiskers ---  all that is left to do is take out the Session Manager that had the greyed out restart buttons -- and just use the one created thanks to your referal tip

thanks again --- appreciate it --- will change as SOLVED


so yea --- deleted the top bar -- oops --- LOL


6 would not run right on this desktop -- maybe it was the i7 -- maybe something else, been tossing between Mint and Peppermint on my laptop, so glad I stumbled on Peppermint few months ago -- anyways... here we go


top bar is reserved for mac's --- get rid of it -- LOL --- I did -- and now my problem

as you can see -- I cant shut down -- cant restart -- cant do normal stuff --- but I can change the start button back to Windows98 style button -- LOL

maybe I am over-looking this issue --- I appreciate any input

again -- SERIOUSLY --- BOTH KODI AND VMWARE working on peppermint 7 --- seriously -- something i could not accomplish with 6 --- THANK YOU SE7EN CREW <3

and thanks for any insight on my Panel modification and stupidity of trying to make something old run even better

I got another issue I will post later --- DRIVER MICROCODE INTEL -- that hapens in MINT 18 beta and peppermint --- not sure what this driver is --- never needed it or was asked for it in 14.04 based machines

just wondering how to fix the GREY'd out SHUTDOWN and REBOOT options
thanks again

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