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Title: PulseAudio Died This Morning
Post by: VinDSL on November 03, 2019, 10:41:27 am
This is sort of a note-to-self...  :)

I was sitting here, this morning, when PulseAudio suddenly died. It was working fine, until it wasn't:


(http://vindsl.com/images/Windowshot_2019-11-03_08:09:38.png)

(http://vindsl.com/images/Windowshot_2019-11-03_08:22:01.png)

No amount of coaxing would get it to fire up, on the fly. When I increased the verbosity level:

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╭─vindsl@Boogaloo-6 ~
╰─$ pulseaudio -v 

I could see the prob (won't bore you with the details). Suffice to say, PulseAudio's config was borked.

Soooo, I nuked the '.config/pulse/' directory in '/home/'; and, sadly rebooted. Prob solved.

Heh! Seems like every time I surpass 100 days of uptime, something happens. I'll try it again  ::)
Title: Re: PulseAudio Died This Morning
Post by: PCNetSpec on November 03, 2019, 11:09:56 am
At least it wasn't me :)
Title: Re: PulseAudio Died This Morning
Post by: VinDSL on November 03, 2019, 11:31:29 am
I know this might seem silly to ppl (unless it has happened to them before) but...

This time of year, I pick up a lot of static as I'm walking shuffling around the abode. I try to remember to ground myself before touching anything computer related; monitors, keyboard, et cetera, but sometimes I forget.

I have a *feeling* that I didn't discharge myself before touching the mouse, this morning.

Why it affected PulseAudio is anybody's guess, but static discharge is nasty on electronics.

Maybe the static charge traveled down my mouse, through the computer, and exited through my external speakers.

When this happens, I usually hear a 'click' or 'pop', but I had just awoke and didn't have a pot of coffee in me yet, so I might have missed it... :))
Title: Re: PulseAudio Died This Morning
Post by: PCNetSpec on November 03, 2019, 12:32:25 pm
weird problems seem to abound at the moment .. someone had an issue where plugging in a second monitor disabled his mouse right-click, WTF :-\
Title: Re: PulseAudio Died This Morning
Post by: VinDSL on November 03, 2019, 12:44:30 pm
weird problems seem to abound at the moment .. someone had an issue where plugging in a second monitor disabled his mouse right-click, WTF :-\

That's one of the reasons I prefer using docking stations, for stuff like that. They're relatively cheap, and everything is designed to play well together.

Simply plugging a 2nd monitor into a VGA/HDMI port, and expecting everything to work, is blue-sky thinking IMO.
Title: Re: PulseAudio Died This Morning
Post by: PCNetSpec on November 03, 2019, 12:56:16 pm
I get that the monitor may not kick in .. but how the heck does it affect the right mouse button, I mean it has nowt to do with USB :-\
Title: Re: PulseAudio Died This Morning
Post by: VinDSL on November 03, 2019, 01:04:32 pm
I get that the monitor may not kick in .. but how the heck does it affect the right mouse button, I mean it has nowt to do with USB :-\

Bad engineering / poorly designed piggy-backed chipsets  :-\

Who knows?
Title: Re: PulseAudio Died This Morning
Post by: VinDSL on November 03, 2019, 01:06:18 pm
That's one of the reasons I prefer using docking stations, for stuff like that. They're relatively cheap, and everything is designed to play well together.


This is the docking station/replicator that I use on my Dell Latitude E6430 lappy:  https://is.gd/doNE8V

I didn't pay that much, of course. I patiently waited until I found a smoking deal   :)


Been wanting to buy a Dell port replicator, for my Latitude E6430, since I bought it last year.

I'm very patient when scouting for new 'toys' and had no intention paying full retail price [...]

Last week, I discovered a 48% off Columbus Day Sale coupon at the Dell refurb site. They were normally selling the refurbs for $59.00 USD, but the coupon knocked the price down to $33.07 USD including tax and shipping.

How could I pass up a Dell CY640 docking station for that price?

Patience pays, no?  8)
Title: Re: PulseAudio Died This Morning
Post by: PCNetSpec on November 03, 2019, 01:12:36 pm
Personally I've no need for a dock, I've a desktop for when I want monitors and laptops for when I wanna be a couch potato :)

I'm highly unlikely to ever be at someone else's desk with my laptop.

I might get one at some point anyway though, 'just in case' :)
(but as with you, only if the right deal walks my way)
Title: Re: PulseAudio Died This Morning
Post by: VinDSL on November 03, 2019, 01:15:32 pm
Personally I've no need for a dock, I've a desktop for when I want monitors and laptops for when I wanna be a couch potato :)

I'm highly unlikely to ever be at someone else's desk with my laptop.

What If you broke your back, and were sitting on the couch, for 10 weeks, in a body cast?   :)
Title: Re: PulseAudio Died This Morning
Post by: PCNetSpec on November 03, 2019, 01:27:18 pm
I can display the main desktop on my TV

or phone the kids and get em to come around and move the desk .. it's about time they gave back :))

And in a full body cast I'm not sure how a dock's gonna help .. interesting thought experiment though .. maybe some kind of airmouse and a VR headset ?
Title: Re: PulseAudio Died This Morning
Post by: VinDSL on November 03, 2019, 01:33:17 pm
1st LOL-of-the-day  :))

Thx, for that!





Title: Re: PulseAudio Died This Morning
Post by: PCNetSpec on November 03, 2019, 01:42:48 pm
Anytime Ke-mo sah-bee :)
Title: Re: PulseAudio Died This Morning
Post by: VinDSL on November 03, 2019, 04:50:19 pm
Whew! It's NOT just my imagination...   :)

Quote
Static electricity can be a bother when it shocks you unexpectedly, but during the winter months and when working with electronics, the static shocks can become frequent and painful – and disastrous if a surprise shock ruins an electronic component. If you are shocked often, take steps to dispel a static charge from your body and prevent yourself from being shocked in the future.

SOURCE: https://is.gd/U70ywn
Title: Re: PulseAudio Died This Morning
Post by: clatterfordslim on November 04, 2019, 10:00:59 am
I get that the monitor may not kick in .. but how the heck does it affect the right mouse button, I mean it has nowt to do with USB :-\

In my time on this planet electronically speaking, weird things happen. Have you ever been stumped as to why your computer will do the thing you wanted it to do one day and then not do it the next?? I swear the amount of times I have spent countless hours searching the web for answers, then realize that all it needs is a reboot. For some odd reason little things like this happen, whether it's because something did not boot properly from shutdown? Or our computers are beginning to have a life of their own? Basically in their own way saying,
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"I'm not going to do that today, because I don't want to."
It's basic common sense to plug a HDMI/VGA cable into your computer to spare monitor before you switch computer on, as for the right mouse button not working, try another USB port? Or keep the mouse unplugged till OS has booted to desktop. It could be a actual mouse problem, depending on the make of the mouse?? Weird things do happen with computers, like when I plug in my microphone into the rear USB 3.0 port my Wired Internet disconnects. So have to use the front USB 3.0 port. Could be too much electrical charge when plugging in Mouse or with my Microphone?? I really get stumped as to the reasons why these things happen to some hardware and not others??  :D
Title: Re: PulseAudio Died This Morning
Post by: PCNetSpec on November 04, 2019, 02:25:15 pm
Gremlins .. and sommat to do with never pouring water into your computer at midnight .. i think :-\

Obviously English Bob didn't understand that rule.
Title: Re: PulseAudio Died This Morning
Post by: VinDSL on November 04, 2019, 02:46:59 pm
Yeah, this Dell 7010 'bot machine' is a weirdo. Three monitors, split into 4 screens per desktop - serving tunes 24/7/365.

I've got a long history with these Dell 7010 boxes - I currently own three of them, and I used several of them at work, for years. Still, as long as it works, IDGAF.

I've only found one kernel that will work with this rig - Linux 4.15.0.23-generic. No other ver will work. I've tried Linux 4.15.0.20-generic through Linux 4.15.0.68-generic; and, none of them will even boot. They all drop dead at boot with an initramf prompt in your face.

Dittos for the nVidia GeForce drivers. The only driver I've found, that will work on this machine is ver 396.54 (which isn't available any longer). I've never seen anything like it. LoL

Anyway, if it only breaks even 100+ days, I won't complain. It gives me a chance to update winders 10 (dual booted) if nothing else   ;)
Title: Re: PulseAudio Died This Morning
Post by: clatterfordslim on November 04, 2019, 02:59:43 pm
Gremlins .. and sommat to do with never pouring water into your computer at midnight .. i think :-\

Obviously English Bob didn't understand that rule.

A coffee without your glasses on that was for English Bob.  :D
Title: Re: PulseAudio Died This Morning
Post by: PCNetSpec on November 04, 2019, 03:47:28 pm
close e-nuff :)
Title: Re: PulseAudio Died This Morning
Post by: VinDSL on November 10, 2019, 05:52:04 pm
Well, here is an interesting twist   :)

A few days ago, I realized that the sound of my podcasts, music, and audio et al. sucked.  So, I checked the equalizer. LoL It had disappeared, so I installed the default 'pulseaudio-equalizer'.

After a day of fiddling with that POS, it came to mind that I always install the webupd8 ver of 'pulseaudio-equalizer'. So, I installed it on my 'daily driver'.

Problem solved...

Upon reflection, I couldn't remember if PM came with the default 'pulseaudio-equalizer', or the webupd8 ver. I checked my 32-bit Dell doorstop.  Sure enough; PM is using the default stinker ver. So, I installed the webupd8 ver. to make sure it works on 32-bit machines - and, it did..

Second problem solved...


(http://vindsl.com/images/Screenshot_2019-11-10_18:24:05.png)


Any interest, in adding a proper 'pulseaudio-equalizer' sink to PM? Or, is everyone else already doing this  :-\
Title: Re: PulseAudio Died This Morning
Post by: PCNetSpec on November 10, 2019, 06:03:10 pm
Can you point me at it the PPA please.

And which version of Peppermint is that? .. ignore that I see it's 10 from your conky.

[EDIT]

Is it:-
pulseaudio-equalizer_2.7.0.2-5~webupd8~xenial0_all.deb

from here:-
https://launchpad.net/~nilarimogard/+archive/ubuntu/webupd8/+packages?field.name_filter=pulse&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=bionic

?
Title: Re: PulseAudio Died This Morning
Post by: VinDSL on November 10, 2019, 06:10:41 pm
Yeah...

https://launchpad.net/~nilarimogard/+archive/ubuntu/webupd8

BTW, it will pull in some depends; but, the difference in sound is night n' day    ;)



Title: Re: PulseAudio Died This Morning
Post by: PCNetSpec on November 10, 2019, 06:20:24 pm
I could have sworn I'd tried the 14.04 version and it didn't work .. because the 18.04 version took some shoehorning in (and wasn't as good).

Yep, we'll go back to this version in the respin .. cheers :)
Title: Re: PulseAudio Died This Morning
Post by: VinDSL on November 10, 2019, 06:34:09 pm
You dah man!   8)







Title: Re: PulseAudio Died This Morning
Post by: PCNetSpec on November 10, 2019, 06:43:16 pm
Just gotta see if I can get it to build against 18.04 on launchpad so I can change the version number and prevent it wanting to update back to the (higher) 18.04 version.

If not, I guess I can always build it against 14.04 on lanchpad with a higher version number .. then re-version it to 18.04
(kind of a launchpad cheat, but it should work :)))
Title: Re: PulseAudio Died This Morning
Post by: VinDSL on November 10, 2019, 06:46:32 pm
Sounds like a plan.

I'm as lazy as the next guy. I 'force' the install & 'pin' the ver in Synaptic...  ;)





Title: Re: PulseAudio Died This Morning
Post by: PCNetSpec on November 10, 2019, 07:08:52 pm
Yeah I can't be 'pinning' stuff on peoples systems though .. gotta do it 'properly' (even if 'properly' does include doing some kind of weird launchpad 'dance') :)

There's rules you know :))
Title: Re: PulseAudio Died This Morning
Post by: VinDSL on November 10, 2019, 08:30:59 pm
There's rules you know :))

Yeah, I know; but, it's soooo much fun to paint outside the lines...  ;D