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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: 151tom on September 03, 2019, 08:39:39 pm

Title: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: 151tom on September 03, 2019, 08:39:39 pm
Hello forums,

I'm curious if there is any advantage of using Peppermint 10 over Peppermint 9.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: Slim.Fatz on September 04, 2019, 04:55:48 am
Bragging rights ??  ;D

Seriously, not that much of an advantage, although there are a few things that you might prefer. But rather than list them here just go to this page (https://peppermintos.com/2019/05/peppermint-10-released/) to read the changes.

BTW, you might prefer to wait a little bit longer because rumor has it that Peppermint 10.5 (not the official name -- actually it will probably be called Peppermint 10 Respin or something similar) will soon be released !!  ;)

Regards,

-- Slim
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: 151tom on September 04, 2019, 07:05:12 am
Hello Slim Fatz,

Cool sounds like like good advice.

I'm using Peppermint 9 Respin now and it works great.


Thanks.
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: VinDSL on September 04, 2019, 10:35:51 am
Hello forums,

I'm curious if there is any advantage of using Peppermint 10 over Peppermint 9.

Thanks.

Probably not the answer you're looking for, but...

The advantage for me is - P10 "kicks the can down the road," so to speak. When a new ver is released, it extends machine support for x-amount of years. I currently have 'daily drivers' running on top of P7, P9, and P10. 

Really, I don't feel a need to upgrade Peppermint, until it quits doing what I need it to do - for instance, when I can't update my browsers, because the kernel or depends are too old.

P7 will be the next to go. When that happens, I'll upgrade it to P10, P11, P12 or whatevs...  ;)
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: 151tom on September 04, 2019, 11:49:06 am
Hello VinDSL,


Peppermint 9 and Peppermint 10 are both 18.04 based so can kicking down the road should be the same imo.

Yeah I'm not much into jumping into the latest release unless there is something new and  I really need it.

One of the things I like about Peppermint is that it pretty much from release to end doesn't change.  8)

I don't believe I've ever run an OS Linux or Windows where I couldn't update to a current browser.  :-\

Perhaps I'll take Slim Fatz advice and wait for Peppermint 10 Respin and install it on a different desktop.  :)


Thanks
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: PCNetSpec on September 04, 2019, 01:24:16 pm
Or if you're already on PM9 you might wanna read this
https://forum.peppermintos.com/index.php/topic,8442.0.html

I wouldn't really suggest anyone nuke and pave a working PM9 to install PM10 .. just manually upgrade it if you want.

The only time I'd suggest PM10 over PM9 is if you're nuking and paving for some other reason anyway.
Title: Re: Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: 151tom on September 04, 2019, 02:24:28 pm
Hello PCNetSpec,


I had seen that how to post whilst grazing the forum.

Personally I see no need for moving from Peppermint 9 to Peppermint 10 unless Peppermint 10 is more secure due to the HWE Stack Kernel.

Peppermint 9 Respin is running great on my 12 year old desktop and I was just curious if Peppermint 10 offered any advantage over Peppermint 9 and that was my only reason.

I'll just keep Peppermint 9 as it's working good and I like staying with a working Linux Distro.  :)


Thanks
Title: Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: 151tom on September 05, 2019, 06:46:20 am
Thanks to everyone.
Title: Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: VinDSL on September 05, 2019, 10:10:14 am
Thanks to everyone.

Welcome.

Incidentally, last night I updated the kernel in my 'Road Warrior' lappy => Linux 5.2.x (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2019/07/linux-5-2-kernel-features)

Peppermint 7 lives, to fight another day  ;D
Title: Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: 151tom on September 05, 2019, 10:58:43 am
Incidentally, last night I updated the kernel in my 'Road Warrior' lappy => Linux 5.2.x (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2019/07/linux-5-2-kernel-features)

Peppermint 7 lives, to fight another day  ;D
You updated Peppermint 7 to the linux-5-2-kernel.

How does everything run since Peppermint 7 I believe is 16.04 Xenial based and an older kernel.

Title: Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: VinDSL on September 05, 2019, 11:27:10 pm
Incidentally, last night I updated the kernel in my 'Road Warrior' lappy => Linux 5.2.x (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2019/07/linux-5-2-kernel-features)

Peppermint 7 lives, to fight another day  ;D
You updated Peppermint 7 to the linux-5-2-kernel.

How does everything run since Peppermint 7 I believe is 16.04 Xenial based and an older kernel.

I've only been running PM7 on top of Linux 5.2.11  for 24 hrs, but no complaints, so far.

11.8 second boot, UEFI/Secure Boot enabled, triple-booted with W10 (stable & skip ahead) and it's flying...

PM7 / Linux 5.2.11  By The Numbers
╭─vindsl@Chi-You ~ 
╰─$ [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo YUP UEFI || echo NOPE BIOS
YUP UEFI
╭─vindsl@Chi-You ~ 
╰─$ systemd-analyze time                                       
Startup finished in 5.292s (firmware) + 1.810s (loader) + 3.253s (kernel) + 1.473s (userspace) = 11.830s
╭─vindsl@Chi-You ~ 
╰─$ systemd-analyze critical-chain                             
The time after the unit is active or started is printed after the "@" character.
The time the unit takes to start is printed after the "+" character.

graphical.target @1.465s
└─multi-user.target @1.465s
  └─mintsystem.service @1.168s +296ms
    └─basic.target @1.134s
      └─sockets.target @1.134s
        └─cups.socket @1.134s
          └─sysinit.target @1.131s
            └─systemd-update-utmp.service @1.021s +13ms
              └─systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service @971ms +47ms
                └─local-fs.target @971ms
                  └─boot-efi.mount @912ms +57ms
                    └─systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2duuid-EA02\x2d59E2.service @526ms +378ms
                      └─dev-disk-by\x2duuid-EA02\x2d59E2.device @522ms
╭─vindsl@Chi-You ~ 
╰─$ inxi -Fxxxz -v 7                                           
System:    Host: Chi-You Kernel: 5.2.11-050211-generic x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 9.2.1)
           Desktop: N/A info: xfce4-panel dm: lightdm Distro: Peppermint Seven
Machine:   System: Dell (portable) product: Latitude E6430 v: 01 Chassis: type: 9
           Mobo: Dell model: N/A Bios: Dell v: A23 date: 11/30/2018
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core i7-3540M (-HT-MCP-) cache: 4096 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 11961
           clock speeds: min/max: 1200/3700 MHz 1: 1222 MHz 2: 1277 MHz 3: 1284 MHz 4: 1201 MHz
Memory:    No dmidecode memory data: try newer kernel.
Graphics:  Card: Intel 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:0166
           Display Server: X.Org 1.19.6 drivers: (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1366x768@60.01hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Ivybridge Mobile GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 18.0.5 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card Intel 7 Series/C216 Family High Definition Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:1e20
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k5.2.11-050211-generic
Network:   Card-1: Intel 82579LM Gigabit Network Connection (Lewisville)
           driver: e1000e v: 3.2.6-k port: f080 bus-ID: 00:19.0 chip-ID: 8086:1502
           IF: eno1 state: down mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Intel Wireless 7260 driver: iwlwifi bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:08b1
           IF: wlp2s0 state: up mac: <filter>
           WAN IP: <filter> IF: wlp2s0 ip-v4: <filter> ip-v6: <filter>
           IF: eno1 ip-v4: N/A ip-v6: N/A
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 570.1GB (5.0% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: Samsung_SSD_850 size: 250.1GB serial: S2R5NB0HB27540R temp: 0C
           ID-2: /dev/sdb model: Hitachi_HTS72323 size: 320.1GB serial: 081006FC1400NEG6P7JD temp: 33C
           Optical: No optical drives detected.
Partition: ID-1: / size: 20G used: 6.2G (34%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda6
           label: (PM7R) Root uuid: 78aa9438-5bec-4c95-a1fe-f78d384264c8
           ID-2: /home size: 59G used: 20G (36%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda7
           label: (PM7R) Home uuid: d4010a0b-d14f-422b-9aee-b5c1ebca8589
           ID-3: /boot/efi size: 95M used: 38M (40%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/sda2
           label: UEFI-SHARED uuid: EA02-59E2
           ID-4: swap-1 size: 0.54GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda8
           label: (PM7R) Swap uuid: 46de3fd8-221d-4634-9270-b35aaa8633ed
RAID:      System: supported: N/A
           No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
           Unused Devices: none
Unmounted: ID-1: /dev/sda1 size: 0.47G fs: NTFS label: N/A uuid: 0450E13C50E134D8
           ID-2: /dev/sda3 size: 0.02G label: N/A uuid: N/A
           ID-3: /dev/sda4 size: 124.22G fs: NTFS label: Windows 10 uuid: 5C9A03B09A03862C
           ID-4: /dev/sda5 size: 0.51G fs: NTFS label: N/A uuid: 88B2867BB2866D8E
           ID-5: /dev/sda9 size: 29.74G fs: NTFS label: N/A uuid: 6246EEDE46EEB249
           ID-6: /dev/sda10 size: 0.50G fs: NTFS label: N/A uuid: 14B442DAB442BE4C
           ID-7: /dev/sdb1 size: 1.57G fs: NTFS label: TOSHIBA SYSTEM VOLUME uuid: A08A36B48A3686B6
           ID-8: /dev/sdb2 size: 104.86G fs: NTFS label: MICROSOFT VISTA uuid: D81A3E541A3E303C
           ID-9: /dev/sdb5 size: 4.10G fs: ext4 label: N/A uuid: ed3ae3a4-4d14-4de4-8f9f-c55e105fba9e
           ID-10: /dev/sdb6 size: 10.24G
           fs: ext4 label: MINT 7 GLORIA uuid: a356a6b1-b517-49f6-b7b7-9a41a4d39aff
           ID-11: /dev/sdb7 size: 92.48G fs: ext4 label: N/A uuid: 1ea4d171-4b5e-427a-8263-bd26e6d9a96c
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 44.0C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 172 Uptime: 8 min Memory: 514.4/7876.8MB
           Init: systemd v: 229 runlevel: 5 default: 2 Gcc sys: 5.4.0
           Client: Shell (zsh 5.1.1 running in x-terminal-emul) inxi: 2.2.35
╭─vindsl@Chi-You ~ 
╰─$
[close]

PM7 is still perfectly usable; and, my professional career lives or dies by this lappy  ;)


(http://vindsl.com/images/Screenshot_2019-09-05_20:32:08.png)
Title: Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: 151tom on September 06, 2019, 05:34:26 am
Cool. 8)
Title: Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: PCNetSpec on September 06, 2019, 08:21:12 am
Still my favourite Peppermint wallpaper of all time :)

Dunno why .. possibly just the pinky/peach tone to the sunset (and the contrast of the bright red rounded housebrick) kinda lifts the soul
(hot damn, got all mushy/poetic there for a sec)
Title: Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: VinDSL on September 06, 2019, 09:42:00 am
Still my favourite Peppermint wallpaper of all time :)

#MeToo

It warms the cockles of my heart, every time I fire it up  :)

Title: Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: PCNetSpec on September 06, 2019, 10:34:58 am
You got cockles on your heart :-\ .. you wanna see a doctor about that my friend ;)

Just outa interest
https://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/books/what-are-the-cockles-of-your-heart-and-why-do-they-need-warming-20050212-gdkogx.html
(well you have to ask don't you .. it's one of those weird sayings I've wondered about every time I've used it / heard it used)
Title: Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: rickc on September 13, 2019, 02:32:05 pm
Quick thankyou for p10.  I've installed it onto a memory stick for my son so he can privately use his work laptop while at work.  Think he just plays old games on steam and checks his emails etc.  He loves it! Performance is good,

I'm still using 9, will do a fresh install when 10.5 comes out

I tend not to post anymore, largely because the OS just works so I never need help !
Title: Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: PCNetSpec on September 13, 2019, 02:49:25 pm
Good to see you rickc :)
Title: Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: 151tom on September 24, 2019, 10:39:27 am
OK I can't decide which I like best P9 or P10. :-\

I installed P9 on a HP Compaq 2007 desktop and OOTB zero complaints as everything is Intel and old Intel and Linux seem to work well together.

I installed P10 on a HP Pavilion 2006 desktop and OOTB zero complaints and almost everything appears to work.

However when I play a movie DVD using Xplayer it stutters quite a bit.

I was under the impression that the proper Nvidia Proprietary Diver would be installed at installation if I checked the box to install third party drivers which I did.

OK this didn't happen so I figured I'd download and install the PPA for Nvidia which I've tried many times in the past only to be disappointed and again I was disappointed which I expected but I figured what the hell.

OK so from there I decided to download the Nvidia Proprietary Diver through Synaptic Package Manager and it did install however left me with 640x480 resolution so again disappointed.

I did a complete new install of P10 on the HP Pavilion 2006 desktop and accept the fact that the developers don't seem to want to make the proprietary drivers from previous kernels support the new / newer kernels.

I find this to be frustrating because this same 13 year HP Pavilion desktop I can install Windows 10 on and use a Windows Vista graphics driver which installs and runs without problems although isn't supported by Windows 10.

I noticed that new Linux distros don't seem to support some of the needed proprietary drivers which always seemed to be available in recent past Linux distros.

This kinda makes the old Linux motto of "Linux Gives New Life To Old Computers" a thing of the past.

OH well it is what it is and I'm tired of reinstalling my Linux distro trying to make the impossible possible.  :(

Both P9 and P10 work OK on these two old outdated desktops and I can live with the no Nvidia proprietary driver and play DVDs on a different desktop which doesn't need any proprietary driver.

Just another reason to not own any Nvidia products if using Linux.

Please don't misunderstand me, I still think Linux is a good choice although I'm really understanding new Linux users frustration with the lack of driver support.
Title: Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: Slim.Fatz on September 24, 2019, 12:06:57 pm
Just another reason to not own any Nvidia products if using Linux.


Hi 151tom,
You hit the nail squarely on its proverbial head !! What Nvidia does seems to be only good for Window$ and it's a poker shot if you use Linux.  ;)


Regards,

-- Slim
Title: Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: PCNetSpec on September 24, 2019, 01:55:13 pm
You didn't mention which nvidia card you have ?

Also if you require technical assistance, can you start a new topic with a descriptive title please.
Title: Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: 151tom on September 24, 2019, 05:45:46 pm
You didn't mention which nvidia card you have ?
Here's the computer.
Spoiler (click here to view / hide)

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thomas@hp-pavilion-d4650y ~ $ inxi -Fxz
System:    Host: hp-pavilion-d4650y Kernel: 5.0.0-29-generic x86_64 bits: 64 gcc: 7.4.0 Desktop: N/A
           Distro: Peppermint Ten
Machine:   Device: desktop System: HP Pavilion 061 product: RF170AV-ABA d4650y v: 0qm1114CT101BASSW00 serial: N/A
           Mobo: ASUSTek model: Basswood v: 1.05 serial: N/A BIOS: Phoenix v: 3.08 date: 09/18/2006
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core2 6400 (-MCP-) arch: Conroe rev.6 cache: 2048 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 8533
           clock speeds: max: 2133 MHz 1: 1804 MHz 2: 1680 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA G72 [GeForce 7300 LE] bus-ID: 01:00.0
           Display Server: x11 (X.Org 1.20.4 ) drivers: nouveau (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1152x720@59.97hz
           OpenGL: renderer: NV46 version: 2.1 Mesa 19.0.8 Direct Render: Yes
Audio:     Card Intel 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k5.0.0-29-generic
Network:   Card: Intel 82562V 10/100 Network Connection driver: e1000e v: 3.2.6-k port: ff00 bus-ID: 00:19.0
           IF: enp0s25 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 120.0GB (7.7% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD1200JD size: 120.0GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 110G used: 8.7G (9%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 59.0C mobo: N/A gpu: 53.0
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 173 Uptime: 1:21 Memory: 651.5/3941.1MB Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 7.4.0
           Client: Shell (bash 4.4.201) inxi: 2.3.56
thomas@hp-pavilion-d4650y ~ $


[close]

Here's the card.

 NVIDIA G72 [GeForce 7300 LE]

Here's this.
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thomas@hp-pavilion-d4650y ~ $ lsmod | grep nouveau
nouveau              1863680  9
mxm_wmi                16384  1 nouveau
wmi                    28672  2 mxm_wmi,nouveau
video                  49152  1 nouveau
ttm                   102400  1 nouveau
drm_kms_helper        180224  1 nouveau
drm                   479232  12 drm_kms_helper,ttm,nouveau
i2c_algo_bit           16384  1 nouveau
thomas@hp-pavilion-d4650y ~ $


[close]

Tried this.
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sudo apt-get purge nvidia*

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa

sudo apt-get update

sudo apt-get install nvidia-driver-340


[close]

Also if you require technical assistance, can you start a new topic with a descriptive title please.
Not to sound negative I haven't had any luck with graphics driver PPAs after Xenial Xerus Ubuntu base distros.
Title: Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: clatterfordslim on September 24, 2019, 08:55:43 pm
You didn't mention which nvidia card you have ?
Here's the computer.
Spoiler (click here to view / hide)

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thomas@hp-pavilion-d4650y ~ $ inxi -Fxz
System:    Host: hp-pavilion-d4650y Kernel: 5.0.0-29-generic x86_64 bits: 64 gcc: 7.4.0 Desktop: N/A
           Distro: Peppermint Ten
Machine:   Device: desktop System: HP Pavilion 061 product: RF170AV-ABA d4650y v: 0qm1114CT101BASSW00 serial: N/A
           Mobo: ASUSTek model: Basswood v: 1.05 serial: N/A BIOS: Phoenix v: 3.08 date: 09/18/2006
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core2 6400 (-MCP-) arch: Conroe rev.6 cache: 2048 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 8533
           clock speeds: max: 2133 MHz 1: 1804 MHz 2: 1680 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA G72 [GeForce 7300 LE] bus-ID: 01:00.0
           Display Server: x11 (X.Org 1.20.4 ) drivers: nouveau (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1152x720@59.97hz
           OpenGL: renderer: NV46 version: 2.1 Mesa 19.0.8 Direct Render: Yes
Audio:     Card Intel 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k5.0.0-29-generic
Network:   Card: Intel 82562V 10/100 Network Connection driver: e1000e v: 3.2.6-k port: ff00 bus-ID: 00:19.0
           IF: enp0s25 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 120.0GB (7.7% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD1200JD size: 120.0GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 110G used: 8.7G (9%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 59.0C mobo: N/A gpu: 53.0
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 173 Uptime: 1:21 Memory: 651.5/3941.1MB Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 7.4.0
           Client: Shell (bash 4.4.201) inxi: 2.3.56
thomas@hp-pavilion-d4650y ~ $


[close]

Here's the card.

 NVIDIA G72 [GeForce 7300 LE]

Here's this.
Spoiler (click here to view / hide)

Code: [Select]

thomas@hp-pavilion-d4650y ~ $ lsmod | grep nouveau
nouveau              1863680  9
mxm_wmi                16384  1 nouveau
wmi                    28672  2 mxm_wmi,nouveau
video                  49152  1 nouveau
ttm                   102400  1 nouveau
drm_kms_helper        180224  1 nouveau
drm                   479232  12 drm_kms_helper,ttm,nouveau
i2c_algo_bit           16384  1 nouveau
thomas@hp-pavilion-d4650y ~ $


[close]

Tried this.
Spoiler (click here to view / hide)

Code: [Select]

sudo apt-get purge nvidia*

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa

sudo apt-get update

sudo apt-get install nvidia-driver-340


[close]

Also if you require technical assistance, can you start a new topic with a descriptive title please.
Not to sound negative I haven't had any luck with graphics driver PPAs after Xenial Xerus Ubuntu base distros.

I might not be able to help you out much on the Nvidia front, only to ask did you try installing via Additional Drivers in settings after you added the Graphic Driver PPA?

I can though help you with the drivers needed to watch DVDs out of the box through Media Player/X Player.

I take it you have the drivers already installed? If not here they are

Open Terminal and always add these first or it's what I do after clean install of any Ubuntu Based system.

Code: [Select]
sudo apt install ubuntu-restricted-extras
These automatically download ttf-mscorefonts
Next we're going to install the necessary drivers for DVDs

Code: [Select]
sudo apt-get install libdvd-pkg

 
Code: [Select]
First time install, click yes both times activate line below.

Code: [Select]
sudo dpkg-reconfigure libdvd-pkg

Always if you're watching a DVD through X-Player have X-player as your default player.

Code: [Select]
menu/settings/Default Applications for LX-Session

Next after inserting all the above codes and setting XPlayer as your default player
Code: [Select]
Reboot System
A lot of people would argue that you don't need to, but I always do.
Then insert the DVD you wanna watch.
Open
Code: [Select]
Home-Folder
Once film has mounted
Code: [Select]
Left Click Once To Open It
Code: [Select]
Should See Video Audio Folders
On the right hand side should be a sign saying
Code: [Select]
Open/Launch/Watch With Media Player Or Words To That Affect
Code: [Select]
Left Click That Button And Watch Your Movie

Now if you're DVD is still being played jerky or you're having screen tearing issues, see below.

If you're using Intel and the top half of your screen when watching a film or YouTube is trying to catch up with the bottom of your screen??
Then you have screen tearing. I have the answer for you here.

Code: [Select]
On Intel Copy and paste into terminal the 2nd command beginning with echo is all one line.

Line 1
Code: [Select]
sudo mkdir -v /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d

Line 2
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echo -e 'Section "Device"\n Identifier "Intel Graphics"\n Driver "Intel"\n Option "AccelMethod" "sna"\n Option "TearFree" "true"\nEndSection' | sudo tee /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf

Code: [Select]
Reboot

Code: [Select]
AMD Anti Screen Tearing

Code: [Select]
In Terminal

Code: [Select]
gksudo xed /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-radeon.conf

Code: [Select]
Copy And Paste The Following, then save file

Code: [Select]
Section "Device"
    Identifier "radeon"
    Driver "radeon"
    option "TearFree" "on"
Endsection

Code: [Select]
Finally Reboot System

340 NVIDIA Drivers have never worked in 18.04 from day one I could never ever get them to work. The 396 Drivers should do as I used to run a low profile Nvidia card on the 396, but even in 18.04 they can be bothersome. I agree with you Nvidia drivers in Linux are a pain in the behind with a pitch fork. Windows has better drivers because of money chucked at Nvidia in the first place from Microsoft. That's why we don't have NVIDIA'S GEFORCE-experience program for Nvidia drivers, that they do in Windows. Nothing is meant to be easy here in Linux, simply because we'll end up being like a proprietary system. I'm glad that we are not like that, there are ways around things.

The problem has always been with NVIDIA cards that it needs software to run them, where as with AMD you don't. A majority of AMD Drivers or at least a few scripts are already here, just insert the above code into the AMD/ RADEON part of your operating system and away you go. With NVIDIA it's a whole different ball game, to get rid of screen tearing first you have to have the driver installed, which I must say bumps the size up considerably, when making a backup ISO of your Peppermint OS through Systemback. I have made loads over the years of being with Peppermint and it still works today, even though Systemback is no longer supported, you can download it via Sourceforge. I love the freedom that Linux gives us to do what we want with, we're not driven to stick to one environment or desktop layout either, no security back doors, always have a wonderful time with Linux and I learn something new everyday.

The above scripts I have saved on my external hard drive along with thousands of others and through out my time of using Linux, there is not one of those scripts that are out of date, they still apply today. Linux still maintains itself to be on modern and old hardware, yes you can say and do with a Proprietary system, but when you push Linux to do something like live stream whilst downloading three different operating systems at the same time and playing a AAA Title through steam, whilst waiting for Operating systems to download. Linux might struggle a little bit, but it will keep going, till it's finished or at least give it a blooming good go. If you tried that on Windows it would gripe and start whining.

People have said to me in the past that Linux does not look that powerful, but believe me when I say Linux has already taken over the world, maybe not on the Desktop, but in cars, GPS, my 2009 Renault Scenic though a pain in the behind, has GTK2 theming on the electronic dashboard, telling you the speed you're going, Fuel, Seat belts on or off, Doors open or Shut, what songs are being played via my USB Car Music drive. The GPS is stupid though because it only runs if the stereo is on. I'm old fashioned and use a map and work out the names of the roads to get to my destination, plus diversions if there is road works. Linux is also looking after everybody's money, all the super computers are running Linux. Also in Fridges though I will have to look that up, but somebody told me that Linux runs Fridges too.
Still before I go I hope to God you don't take this novel of a post the wrong way and my intention was not to sound like you don't know what you're doing or condescending in any way I am just an ordinary Linux User bloke, who loves to try to help if I can
.  ;D     






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Title: Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: 151tom on September 25, 2019, 12:02:02 am
I might not be able to help you out much on the Nvidia front, only to ask did you try installing via Additional Drivers in settings after you added the Graphic Driver PPA?
I went to additional drivers although empty as always.

I can though help you with the drivers needed to watch DVDs out of the box through Media Player/X Player.

I take it you have the drivers already installed? If not here they are

Open Terminal and always add these first or it's what I do after clean install of any Ubuntu Based system.

Code: [Select]
sudo apt install ubuntu-restricted-extras
These automatically download ttf-mscorefonts
Next we're going to install the necessary drivers for DVDs

Code: [Select]
sudo apt-get install libdvd-pkg

 
Code: [Select]
First time install, click yes both times activate line below.

Code: [Select]
sudo dpkg-reconfigure libdvd-pkg

Always if you're watching a DVD through X-Player have X-player as your default player.

Code: [Select]
menu/settings/Default Applications for LX-Session

Next after inserting all the above codes and setting XPlayer as your default player
Code: [Select]
Reboot System
A lot of people would argue that you don't need to, but I always do.
Then insert the DVD you wanna watch.
Open
Code: [Select]
Home-Folder
Once film has mounted
Code: [Select]
Left Click Once To Open It
Code: [Select]
Should See Video Audio Folders
On the right hand side should be a sign saying
Code: [Select]
Open/Launch/Watch With Media Player Or Words To That Affect
Code: [Select]
Left Click That Button And Watch Your Movie
Yep done all of that and DVDs do play it just stutters when it plays.

It's a driver issue an the nouveau driver is ok although not good enough on certain Nvidia graphics cards or Nvidia integrated graphics adapters.

I hate Nvidia even when I was using Windows they were problematic garbage then and still problematic garbage now.

The fact that Nvidia refuses to help out with open source drivers makes me hate them more than I hate Intel who has also stuck it to the consumers who bought their crap products they refuse to support. >:(

340 NVIDIA Drivers have never worked in 18.04 from day one I could never ever get them to work. The 396 Drivers should do as I used to run a low profile Nvidia card on the 396, but even in 18.04 they can be bothersome. I agree with you Nvidia drivers in Linux are a pain in the behind with a pitch fork. Windows has better drivers because of money chucked at Nvidia in the first place from Microsoft. That's why we don't have NVIDIA'S GEFORCE-experience program for Nvidia drivers, that they do in Windows. Nothing is meant to be easy here in Linux, simply because we'll end up being like a proprietary system. I'm glad that we are not like that, there are ways around things.
I've never gotten any Nvidia graphics driver to work in any 18.04 Ubuntu based distro although ruined a few distros trying that's why I know it's hopeless.

I can buy a cheap ATI / AMD graphics card that will work OOTB.

The problem has always been with NVIDIA cards that it needs software to run them,

I agree Nvidia needs to have the proprietary drivers for their graphics cards / integrated graphics adapters.
 
Still before I go I hope to God you don't take this novel of a post the wrong way and my intention was not to sound like you don't know what you're doing or condescending in any way I am just an ordinary Linux User bloke, who loves to try to help if I can[/size].  ;D     
It's always good to read other users points of view and hell you never know I might even learn something new or a better way to do something.

I appreciate your effort in offering to help out and no you didn't offend me and you  were not condescending at all and this is what forums are about is sharing the knowledge. :)

Thanks for your help. :)

Title: Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: PCNetSpec on September 25, 2019, 01:53:00 pm
The GeForce Go 7300 require the 304 drivers which are no longer in the repos (support dropped in 2017) .. you'd need to download them directly from nvidia:-

English (US)
https://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/123709

English (GB)
https://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/123846

I can't guarantee if these would compile in Peppermint 9/10 (Ubuntu 18.04) .. but it's where I'd start.
Title: Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: 151tom on September 25, 2019, 03:40:37 pm
The GeForce Go 7300 require the 304 drivers which are no longer in the repos (support dropped in 2017) .. you'd need to download them directly from nvidia:-

English (US)
https://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/123709

English (GB)
https://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/123846

I can't guarantee if these would compile in Peppermint 9/10 (Ubuntu 18.04) .. but it's where I'd start.
Hello PCNetSpec,

Thanks for the links.

Seems as I remember using the Nvidia 304 driver in Ubuntu  16.04 Xenial Xerus.

I'll have a look and see what all that involves besides patience.  ;D

P10 works on this old beast well OOTB.

It's a drag that Nvidia won't work with the Linux Developers on driver support as AMD / ATI does.


Thanks again.  :)
Title: Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: PCNetSpec on September 25, 2019, 04:56:41 pm
[EDIT]

Hold off on this for a bit whilst I do some more homework, seems there's a dependency issue with 304 in 18.04 (and therefore PM9/10).
https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/nvidia-304-driver-install-in-18-04/16787/13
and
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-304/+bug/1763648

[END EDIT]

Have you tried adding this PPA
Code: [Select]
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa
then seeing if the 304 drivers become available in "Additional Drivers" ?

304 does seem to be available in there for bionic
https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=bionic
Title: Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: 151tom on September 25, 2019, 05:23:42 pm
[EDIT]

Hold off on this for a bit whilst I do some more homework, seems there's a dependency issue with 304 in 18.04 (and therefore PM9/10).
https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/nvidia-304-driver-install-in-18-04/16787/13
and
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-304/+bug/1763648

[END EDIT]

OK

Have you tried adding this PPA
Code: [Select]
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa
then seeing if the 304 drivers become available in "Additional Drivers" ?

304 does seem to be available in there for bionic
https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=bionic

I've run this and had the 640X480 resolution.

Spoiler (click here to view / hide)

Code: [Select]

sudo apt-get purge nvidia*

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa

sudo apt-get update

sudo apt-get install nvidia-driver-340


[close]
Title: Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: The Omen on September 25, 2019, 05:36:35 pm
Hi 151tom, i notice that you and Mr.Mark are talking the "304" nvidia driver, when I look into your "spoiler" report with the "640X480 resolution, result, i'm seeing the "340" nvidia driver...does this have any bearing whatsoever with what your trying to solve with Mr. Mark???-304 versus 340???.

Mark did say to look for the "304" in the "additional drivers" found in the "Menu" under "All" software, if that makes any sense or difference here???.

Or maybe im just having a bout of dyslexia with transposing the numbers, lol.

Perhaps after running the first 2 codes that Mark gave you then maybe the final code should be:

 
Code: [Select]
sudo apt-get install nvidia-driver-304

Rather than the "340" you are showing in your spoiler.

Maybe im wrong and all wet here.

Maybe Mark could tell us if im barking up the wrong tree or what not, lol.

Regards,

The Omen
Title: Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: PCNetSpec on September 25, 2019, 05:52:00 pm
No, you're right @The Omen .. there's a big difference between 304 and 340 .. the Geforce Go 7300 won't work with 340, it requires the earlier 304 driver (which I'm currently looking into for 18.04/PM9/PM10)

[EDIT]

On second thoughts, ignore this posting and hang on for a bit whilst I check something....

[END EDIT]

Maybe try
Code: [Select]
sudo apt-get purge nvidia*
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa
sudo apt update
sudo apt install nvidia-304 nvidia-settings
but I'd expect dependency issues.
Title: Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: The Omen on September 25, 2019, 05:54:49 pm
Hi Mark, just edited my previous reply before seeing yours.

Will my code work after the first 2 you provided?

The Omen
Title: Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: PCNetSpec on September 25, 2019, 05:57:50 pm
No the driver seems slightly renamed in the PPA .. 'nvidia-304' not 'nvidia-driver-304'

See my last response :)
Title: Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: The Omen on September 25, 2019, 05:59:55 pm
Does "bionic" need to appear in the first code line you provided?

Code: [Select]
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa

Title: Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: The Omen on September 25, 2019, 06:02:20 pm
So now it seems he will only need the complete sequence of the 3 Terminal command codes to complete his nvidia set up.

The Omen
Title: Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: The Omen on September 25, 2019, 06:04:24 pm
Hope i've been of some small help to you both here.

warm regards,

The Omen
Title: Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: PCNetSpec on September 25, 2019, 06:05:29 pm
So now it seems he will only need the complete sequence of the 3 Terminal command codes to complete his nvidia set up.

The Omen

No, those instructions from the PPA won't work in bionic (missing xorg-video-abi-1*  dependency errors) .. hence why I posted to hang on a bit whilst I do some homework on the matter ;)

I'm currently looking into the patch mentioned here
https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2396263&p=13784593#post13784593

I'll post when I've tested the nvidia 304 drivers build properly against the 5.0 kernel after being patched.
(but I have to test this in a VM so I don't bork my own system .. so I may be a while)

[EDIT]

Seems I **may** need to look into modifying the patch for the 5.0 kernel series in PM10 .. though it may work 'as is' in PM9
https://adufray.com/blog/2018/06/02/nvidia-304-127-on-bionic
and
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-304/+bug/1737750
Title: Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: The Omen on September 25, 2019, 06:21:06 pm
I could be all wet here but it looks to me that a nvidia "patch" is needed before the actual driver can be downloaded and applied, i dont use nvidia but this seems awfully familiar to me. Something my "mentor' taught me about but have forgotten as regards nvidia old drivers in new kernels etc.

The Omen
Title: Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: The Omen on September 25, 2019, 06:45:58 pm
I THINK you have got it, Mark, adufray.com i now remember that name due to "mentor", im REALLY sure your on the right track

The Omen
Title: Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: The Omen on September 25, 2019, 06:51:44 pm
Its a "bootstrap" to "bionic" to newest kernels etc.
Title: Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: The Omen on September 25, 2019, 07:06:18 pm
OK Mark, saw your last edit, I'm sticking this one out with you, Inquireing mind here longing for the answers, lol.

The Omen

EDIT-hoping I'm not being a P.I.T.A. here.

just hoping i've been some small help is all.

Will keep monitoring your edits.
Title: Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: The Omen on September 25, 2019, 07:42:15 pm
Its now 12:42 am london time, did you go to bed Mark? if you did i do not blame you, lol.

OK, I'm off for now but will check in later.

The Omen
Title: Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: 151tom on September 25, 2019, 08:00:51 pm
Hey PCNetSpec,

There's no rush I've other boxes to run DVDs on so at your convenience. 8)

My apologies for being a PITA. :-[

I appreciate all of your help. :)


Thanks again. :)
Title: Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: The Omen on September 25, 2019, 08:41:09 pm
Hey there 151tom, This guy Mr. Mark Greaves is a real trooper just like my "mentor" told me he was.
 we kept communicating with each other through out.

I "Think" that Mark was reading my additions as my memory was being "pricked" and "kicked" as to the fact my "mentor" DID tell me over the past 2 yrs that nvidia was a "strange animal", but do not know for certain that Mark was reading them in real time and responding through the EDIT updates that erased and superceeded the previous EDITS except he kept ammending his "EDITS" that i kept replying to.

I only remembered enough of my teaching that a "patch" needed to be applied first as a bootstrap, to bionic to newest kernels in order for old nvidia driver to work with the newest kernels.

Mark "just knew" where to go from there, I did not.

He would keep on adjusting his "edits" to the next, newest, edit as he progressed, (Iguess this forum does not retain all edits but only the latest one offered) I was remembering things i was being taught over the last 2 years and was hoping he was reading what i remembered being taught and then believing he was looking for it, hopeing i was being in a small way of help to you both.

If this just all worked the way i think i just saw it, then I'm just in awe of how this forum can really work.

There is NO OTHER FORUM in Linux I have EVER seen that the GUY in CHARGE and responsible for, and to, the final product , is EVER this kind of responsible HANDS ON GUY to his "end user"/"base users".

It took my Linux Mentor 2 years to convince me to even join a forum for my further education and he was determined it was to be here, NOW i see why.

This guy, MR. Mark Greaves, IS THE BEST, and somehow my "mentor" already knew this was the case.

Warmest Regards to you,

The Omen

WOW OH WOW, there is NO WAY IN HELL I've seen this in any other of the Forums I have looked at for 2 yrs
Title: Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: PCNetSpec on September 26, 2019, 03:14:10 pm
Nope I've tried but can't get this to build in PM10, the patch applies but the nvidia-304 driver then refuses to build properly :(

Seems the best option might be to install PM9 then the patched nvidia-304, then manually upgrade PM9 to PM10 without adding the HWE.
Title: Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: 151tom on September 26, 2019, 04:06:05 pm
Nope I've tried but can't get this to build in PM10, the patch applies but the nvidia-304 driver then refuses to build properly :(

Seems the best option might be to install PM9 then the patched nvidia-304, then manually upgrade PM9 to PM10 without adding the HWE.
I'm not being negative although I kinda figured it wasn't going to work out as I've just never had good results with Nvidia graphics drivers using Ubuntu 18.04 or Ubuntu 18.04 based / built distros using the old Nvidia graphics cards I have.

I appreciate your time and effort you've put into trying to make it work and and unfortunately some computers and hardware becomes unsupported for the OS being used.

I'll find an AMD / ATI graphics card that will work OOTB and this old box is working good enough for normal computer stuff with no complaints.  :)

Thanks again PCNetSpec.  :)
Title: Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: 151tom on September 26, 2019, 06:42:04 pm
Hello PCNetSpec,


I researched media players and Linux.

I found "Parole Media Player" is designed for Xfce and it's in the repository so I installed it and problem solved.  :o

I'm embarrassed   :-[  for being so stupid   >:(  my apologies to you and the forum for not having done this earlier.


"Parole Media Player".

https://docs.xfce.org/apps/parole/introduction

https://www.computerhope.com/jargon/p/parole-media-player.htm

https://bluesabre.org/2018/03/04/parole-media-player-1-0-0-released/


Title: Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: clatterfordslim on September 26, 2019, 08:19:12 pm
I find Media Player/XPlayer fine for my DVDs, but I have got 32GB of DDR3 Ram, Quad Core AMD A10 5800K processor on a 2008 ASUS F2A85-V PRO motherboard, plus a Samsung DVD Drive, as my Home Theater Machine, this motherboard has seen a lot of Linux OSES over the years and for streaming this motherboard is superior.

Now I know that there are people out there who with their DVD drives just push the tray in with their hands, I've seen them do it and it appalls me to think that they cannot be bothered to push the button, that they originally pushed to open the tray up with to insert their DVD/CD onto the tray in the first place, oh no they push the tray in with their hands and then after a year or two of continuously doing so, they come to realize that it's time for a new DVD Drive, because none of their DVDs are reading properly anymore. My brother does it, my ex girlfriend done it, my wife to be does it too. It drives me bananas, though I don't let her touch my precious (Say it like Golam Go On I Dare Ya?) computer, because it'll end up like her drive on her computer. It ain't just a gentle tap either to help it on it's way, oh no there be hate in them there eyes as she looks over at me and all I can hear is the loud rubbing as the tray's cogs go kerchunk. (No other word for it, really.) Poor DVD Drive Tray  :(

"What did it ever do to deserve this?" I whined it out in a hurt whimper, the first and last time I asked my Wife to be this question.
I swear Paddington Bear was suddenly staring back at me, the fear of Uh Oh, when Paddington got angry you knew about it and in the stories it never happened that often, but when he got upset we all knew, what was coming? The famous Paddington Bear stare.
Although I could not help it and never said it, but in the back of mind and on the tip of my tongue was to say

Code: [Select]
"All you need is the hat and coat, you'll look just like him."

But suffering enough from the stare and the two subconsciouscheese (Yep New Word more than one it means In my world anyway.)
fighting on my shoulders, Ying and Yang I decided to go with the good side and remained quiet.  Ever so happy my wife to be and me, myself and I that I now make sure I'm not in the same room as when she wants to watch a DVD or look at her photo collection on CD through her computer.
we have to redecorate soon because the walls have become so scared, whenever she's pushing in her DVD tray.  ;D 
 
Title: Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: 151tom on September 27, 2019, 10:11:15 am
I find Media Player/XPlayer fine for my DVDs, but I have got 32GB of DDR3 Ram, Quad Core AMD A10 5800K processor on a 2008 ASUS F2A85-V PRO motherboard, plus a Samsung DVD Drive, as my Home Theater Machine, this motherboard has seen a lot of Linux OSES over the years and for streaming this motherboard is superior.
Hello clatterfordslim,

I haven't had a brand new computer since the desktop I built in 2006 for Windows Vista and Microsoft Flight Simulator X and in it's day was awesome and I'm still using it for Microsoft Flight Simulator X.

Most of my computers these days are others discard Windows computers or curb finds which I upgrade from free spare parts I have around or parts purchased from Ebay dirt cheap.

Can't complain though as I don't need much I only web browse and stream Youtube videos and do some Office documents and pull a few pictures from my cell phone and I like to tinker with old computers etc.

Now I know that there are people out there who with their DVD drives just push the tray in with their hands, I've seen them do it and it appalls me to think that they cannot be bothered to push the button, that they originally pushed to open the tray up with to insert their DVD/CD onto the tray in the first place, oh no they push the tray in with their hands and then after a year or two of continuously doing so,
Not all DVD / CD drives have an available push butten to close them because the drive is actually behind the desktops plastic front escutcheon.
Once the drive tray is opened the button is covered by the folded down drive door on the front cover plastic escutcheon so the only way to close the tray is to tap on it.

Ever so happy my wife to be and me, myself and I that I now make sure I'm not in the same room as when she wants to watch a DVD or look at her photo collection on CD through her computer.
we have to redecorate soon because the walls have become so scared, whenever she's pushing in her DVD tray.  ;D
I've been married to the same woman for 47 years and one thing I learned very early on about marriage is I ain't gonna win period.  :P

Whatever she breaks on her laptop I just fix or buy a new one because it's easier then listening to the nagging and believe me about this women (especially wives) know how to nag.  :P

Title: Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: VinDSL on September 27, 2019, 11:10:14 am
I've been married to the same woman for 47 years and one thing I learned very early on about marriage is I ain't gonna win period.  :P

Bwahahahahaha :))

They say, "If women ruled the world, there would be serious negotiations every 28 days."
Title: Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: 151tom on September 27, 2019, 12:39:25 pm
I've been married to the same woman for 47 years and one thing I learned very early on about marriage is I ain't gonna win period.  :P

Bwahahahahaha :))

They say, "If women ruled the world, there would be serious negotiations every 28 days."

They rule the households.  :P
Title: Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: clatterfordslim on September 27, 2019, 01:46:17 pm
I've been married to the same woman for 47 years and one thing I learned very early on about marriage is I ain't gonna win period.  :P

Bwahahahahaha :))

They say, "If women ruled the world, there would be serious negotiations every 28 days."

They rule the households.  :P



I've learned to keep quiet or pretend I can't hear her properly or just zone out anyway, whilst trying to get on with whatever I'm doing. She loves to moan on about her day at work, mostly about what the man said, the woman said, the cow shed and the horse went nay OK Wilber. Mr Ed springs to mind. Or that's what I hear anyway. People would say I'm ignorant, but why do women walk out of the room in mid conversation? All I hear is her voice fading away in the distance and then she never returns, or it goes all quiet for a couple of hours, then I realize she's gone out. Probably said see ya later during the fade out part of the last conversation, but I never heard her. It's at times like these I wonder am I going GA GA? We have been together twelve glorious years, so we are already married without being married if you like?

Would not have my life any other way, though I'm saving up for a 1940's themed marriage I keep buying computer parts and own eight computers in total, soon to be twelve. I have a fetish for computer building at the moment and that if you like is my bit on the side. I don't drink anymore, I vape which only costs me eleven pounds a month, I work a sixty hour week, get paid monthly pay my way in society and waiting on a cheque from the tax man, because they can't seem to get what I'm meant to be paying right in the first place. Life at the moment is pretty good and coming to this forum takes me away from real life for a while and if I can I'll try to help someone here. I just love my Linux.  (https://vrcp.ru/smiles/fm.gif)
Title: Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: clatterfordslim on September 27, 2019, 02:11:58 pm
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151tom
Not all DVD / CD drives have an available push butten to close them because the drive is actually behind the desktops plastic front escutcheon.
Once the drive tray is opened the button is covered by the folded down drive door on the front cover plastic escutcheon so the only way to close the tray is to tap on it.

Yeah but on new builds, without the plastic bit on the front. I used to have a Dell PC with a nice Samsung DVD/CD Drive and it had plastic shielding you slid the hatch up to access it, but unfortunately the motherboard burnt out, saved the DVD drive and put it in my other gaming Ryzen build. My other halves computer has a ASUS DVD drive and she keeps pushing the tray instead of pushing the button. People moan that things don't last, if you mistreat things or use them the wrong way, they will eventually break. I'm not looking forward to the day when her DVD drive won't read DVDs anymore.  ;D
Title: Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: 151tom on September 27, 2019, 03:14:49 pm
I've learned to keep quiet or pretend I can't hear her properly or just zone out anyway, whilst trying to get on with whatever I'm doing.
Usually the best plan imo.  ;D

She loves to moan on about her day at work, mostly about what the man said, the woman said, the cow shed and the horse went nay OK Wilber. Mr Ed springs to mind. Or that's what I hear anyway.
That's normal and just wants to get the day at work off of her chest.

People would say I'm ignorant, but why do women walk out of the room in mid conversation?
That my friend is a question I'm sure has an answer however best just left unanswered imo.  :P

We have been together twelve glorious years, so we are already married without being married if you like?

Would not have my life any other way,
Hey that's cool everyone should have someone to share their life with.

I already mentioned I've been married to the same woman for 47 years and yes we have had our ups and downs but we have a good life together.  :)

I keep buying computer parts and own eight computers in total, soon to be twelve. I have a fetish for computer building at the moment and that if you like is my bit on the side.
Nothing wrong with that if they fit in the household budget and you just don't build them and then set them on the shelf.

I've probably got 25 computers in my shop curb finds and what people have given me and some are high end home builds and others are oem computers.

Most work although some need to be recapped which ain't no big deal since I know how to use a soldering iron without burning the traces off of the board.

Since I have zero money in any of them they're great parts computers and I can keep the family in computers if needed.

OK I to like to tinker with computers as long as I don't have to pour a lot of money into them so free is good.

I don't drink anymore, I vape which only costs me eleven pounds a month, I work a sixty hour week, get paid monthly

The wife and I drink  although we don't believe we're alcoholics.  ::) :P :D

The wife and I smoke marijuana occasionally and we have medical marijuana licenses and buy what we smoke from local marijuana dispensaries where we live.  :)

The wife and I are both retired and get retirement checks and social security checks every month and the house and cars are paid for and all of our kids are grown up and have their own kids so life in our old age isn't to bad except for the health issues we deal with due to old age.

Damn I'm boring   :P  so I'll shut up for now.  :D

Take care my friend.  ;)

Title: Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
Post by: clatterfordslim on September 27, 2019, 07:25:57 pm
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The wife and I drink  although we don't believe we're alcoholics.  ::) :P :D

The wife and I smoke marijuana occasionally and we have medical marijuana licenses and buy what we smoke from local marijuana dispensaries where we live.  :)

The wife and I are both retired and get retirement checks and social security checks every month and the house and cars are paid for and all of our kids are grown up and have their own kids so life in our old age isn't to bad except for the health issues we deal with due to old age.

Damn I'm boring   :P  so I'll shut up for now.  :D

Take care my friend.  ;)

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I work as a carer support worker, for a agency and do night shift work four nights a week, then five days off, then three days on, then four days on, five days off, then etc that's my shift pattern and the fantastic thing is I only live ten minutes away. I used to smoke the old marry a Iguana, but that led to heavily smoking normal cigarettes, well mostly roll ups I was on nearly one hundred a day and that put an end to my walking long distances clogged arteries and congested chest, full of mucus. So glad the Americans brought vaping to England as my lungs are so clear now and among all the rumors of putting poisonous chemicals into your body, if you pick the right vape and make sure you like it and have just 12mg of nicotine like I have and I use a great company for my vapes called Hangsen, I tried all the different flavors from other vape companies and they were disgusting.

Lemonade, Blueberry, Fish and Chips, Marzipan, Cola, Dandelion and Burdock. I tried one which was just tobacco flavor, no odour to it, as they can smell sickly like car air fresheners. This one had no smell and I loved the taste it's called USA Mix. The only problem was everyone got hooked on vaping and the Government could not make any money out of it tax wise, so they banned 20ml bottles in Brussels and the rest of Europe had to follow. So I buy directly from Hangsen and get 17 10ml USA Mix bottles for around 11.99 plus free postage. These last me for just over a month.   My lungs are so clear now I can run without getting out of breathe. If anyone is a smoker and they suffer from asthma I say give vaping a go, for as long as you don't have the battery vape hit strength too high, you'll be fine.

Lovely to know we get all walks of life on this forum, 151tom you're never boring, or need to shut up.(https://vrcp.ru/smiles/dark/ay.gif) Absolute pleasure to belong to a Forum and meet such lovely people. I'm working as I type, but because all my chores are done, apart from folding some washing up after the tumble dryer has finished, that's me done. This job is great as I don't have management on my back telling me what to do. All I have to be while awake here is alert for anyone sleep walking and guiding them back to bed again, plus also make sure they are still alive.  ;D I wish you all the best too and if you can, I'm Live Streaming tomorrow evening Saturday 28th at 16:00hrs British Time on YouTube. It's a game called Resident Evil 2 Remake which is actually a Windows game, will be playing it through Steam here in Linux.  Also discuss Linux and other weird stuff too. Just put my name into Google and my YouTube channel, although called Slim as people were finding Clatterford a mouthful. I do tutorials and play games, plus hoping to get some stuff done with the band I'm in too. Bye (https://vrcp.ru/smiles/light/br.gif) fer now