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Title: What would you do? [Done with it]
Post by: pin on July 10, 2019, 11:06:49 am
Two years ago, I gave my father my old Asus eee pc 1001px with PM7 installed.
I'm visiting my parents this week and just installed over 500 updates  :o
Now,...
Kernel 4.4.0-83 boots fine, but the latest updated 4.4.0-154 doesn't boot at all. I've installed 4.14.133 and it boots ok.

What to do?? Freeze his system on 4.4.0-83? Or just let it be on 4.14.133?
He has NO clue how to do this and I won't be around for another year or two...
Options?

Thx!
Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by: PCNetSpec on July 10, 2019, 11:43:38 am
Move him to the hwe-16.04 track which will put him on the 4.15 (18.04) kernel (with updates until 16.04 EOL's in April 2021).
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack#Ubuntu_16.04_LTS_-_Xenial_Xerus
Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by: pin on July 10, 2019, 12:53:31 pm
Thx!
Will fix soon...
For now he's frozen on 4.4.0-83, but this is actually running rather well  :D
Kind off regreat, I gave it away  :(
 :D

(https://i.postimg.cc/DzRwy9GV/Screenshot-2019-07-10-17-44-37.png)
Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by: PCNetSpec on July 10, 2019, 01:16:43 pm
I'm pretty sure I still have one of those somewhere, but the power jack needs re-soldering to the board.
(it works only if you put some lateral pressure on the power connector)
Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by: pin on July 10, 2019, 03:58:38 pm
 :) Just cleaned everything he doesn't need and I'm down to 3.8GB used disk space and about 50sec boot time (yes, its still a HDD inside).
The 1GB RAM is the limiting factor, but I won't upgrade it. He doesn't want to pay for it  >:( ...
...this thing would fly with a SSD and 2GB of RAM.
Well, whatever. I'm done with it.
Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by: PCNetSpec on July 10, 2019, 05:48:51 pm
Tell him he has no option .. that 1GB RAM and HDD's reach end of life in August :)
Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by: pin on July 11, 2019, 08:03:11 am
 :D
It won't work! He only got cable tv after almost a year watching unfocus and deformed picture broadcast.
Most probably because he couldn't see what was on any longer  :D
Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by: pin on July 15, 2019, 03:24:07 pm
Anything patched for spectre and meltdown seems to have issues on this machine...  ::)
4.4.0-83 is, as mentioned working as it should;
4.4.0-154, latest auto-updated on this series doesn't boot;
4.4.0-185, latest from mainline on this series doesn't boot;
4.14.133 installs, obviously after manually pulling libssl-1.1, and boots but, it has issues with ACPI;
4.15.0-54, boots but, with wrong screen resolution.

Anyway, the system is now back on 4.4.0-83 and I've stopped kernel updates, everything else will still be rolling in as usual.

Not the solution I was looking for, but I won't bother with it anymore. Even if I get another kernel to work, there's always the risk that a coming update will screw things up and I won't be around to fix it.
Title: Re: What would you do? [Done with it]
Post by: VinDSL on July 15, 2019, 08:19:57 pm
Don't know how I missed this thread... but, I've been mad busy with real-life shiz.  ::)

Here's my Eee PC. It's a slightly different model variation, and it's running on P10.


(http://vindsl.com/images/Screenshot_2019-07-15_17:01:06.png)


I had a hella time installing P10 on this thing - almost gave up, but the OEM install worked a treat.

I ran the gamut finding a kernel that worked properly, but it's all good now.

I can truthfully say, it's never run better, especially with the addition of the SSD  8)

Have you tried the Linux 4.18.x kernel?
Title: Re: What would you do? [Done with it]
Post by: pin on July 16, 2019, 02:54:51 am
I did think about you, as I remembered your posts  ;)
Nope, I haven't tried 4.18... shall do  :)
Thx!

EDIT: Just took it for a spin...
4.18.20 boots fine but, according to dmesg, it fails to load eeepc-wmi driver  :(
This causes trouble, at least with power management, the system is unaware of battery life  :(
Back to 4.4.0-83  ;)
It could be related to this, https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=876303. Anyway, 4.4.0-83 it is  >:(
Title: Re: What would you do? [Done with it]
Post by: VinDSL on July 16, 2019, 07:14:07 am
Interesting.

I wonder if the differences in outcome have anything to do with Atom vs Celeron  :-\

Oh, well, I suppose we should be happily surprised when any Linux kernel works with these antiques.

I really like the overall form factor of netbooks, in some odd way.

I suppose a Peppermint-powered Apple MacBook Air 11.6" (https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=apple+macbook+air+11.6) would be the next logical progression.  ;D
Title: Re: What would you do? [Done with it]
Post by: pin on July 16, 2019, 08:08:06 am
 :) Yes, I think you're right. We should be happy that it still works.
I kind of like it also, although its not mine anymore  ;)

Guess that in a few years, I'll be needing NETBSD i386 if I wish to keep it alive. Need to replace the wifi-card, though as there's no support for the one inside this box  :D
Title: Re: What would you do? [Done with it]
Post by: pin on July 17, 2019, 01:00:30 pm
@ VinDSL
Couldn't resist. Fetched the NetBSD-8.1_STABLE i386 image from the daily builds and booted the eee pc.
 :o dmesg shows no warnings, errors or failures. Moreover, wifi and acpi work perfectly.
I didn't install it. There's no way he could handle the system  ;) but, it really caught me by surprise. The hardware is fully supported.
Thought you'd like to know.
Title: Re: What would you do? [Done with it]
Post by: spence on July 17, 2019, 02:48:10 pm
I'd probably look around for a newer Dell E series locally and offer to trade with Dad @pin... "here this will work better for you... "
Title: Re: What would you do? [Done with it]
Post by: VinDSL on July 17, 2019, 07:33:54 pm
@ VinDSL
Couldn't resist. Fetched the NetBSD-8.1_STABLE i386 image from the daily builds and booted the eee pc.
 :o dmesg shows no warnings, errors or failures. Moreover, wifi and acpi work perfectly.
I didn't install it. There's no way he could handle the system  ;) but, it really caught me by surprise. The hardware is fully supported.
Thought you'd like to know.


Now you did it. I need to see this...


(http://vindsl.com/images/Windowshot_2019-07-17_16:25:50.png)


I'm such a sucker for BSD   8)
Title: Re: What would you do? [Done with it]
Post by: pin on July 17, 2019, 08:07:02 pm
WARNING!!
On NetBSD the .iso images are for CD-ROM only. To boot from USB you need the install.img.gz file.
Fetch it from http://nycdn.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD-daily/netbsd-8/latest/images/
Run gunzip to unpack and use dd to write the unpacked image to the USB  ;)
Once booted choose your keyboard layout and drop to console using Ctrl+c
To check wifi use ifconfig to find your card, then ifconfig card up and ifconfig card list scan to find your SSID.
Shout if you need  :)
Title: Re: What would you do? [Done with it]
Post by: VinDSL on July 17, 2019, 08:47:42 pm
LoL Now you tell me.

Code: [Select]
╭─vindsl@Boogaloo-6 ~/Downloads/ISOs 
╰─$ sudo dd if=NetBSD-8.1_STABLE-i386.iso of=/dev/sdc1 bs=32k                     1 ↵
[sudo] password for vindsl:
21878+1 records in
21878+1 records out
716902400 bytes (717 MB, 684 MiB) copied, 0.448485 s, 1.6 GB/s
╭─vindsl@Boogaloo-6 ~/Downloads/ISOs
╰─$

USB install wasn't happy.  :D
Title: Re: What would you do? [Done with it]
Post by: VinDSL on July 17, 2019, 09:53:51 pm
That's better...

Code: [Select]
╭─vindsl@Boogaloo-6 ~/Downloads/ISOs 
╰─$ sudo dd if=NetBSD-8.1_STABLE-i386-install.img of=/dev/sdc bs=32k
[sudo] password for vindsl:
41600+0 records in
41600+0 records out
1363148800 bytes (1.4 GB, 1.3 GiB) copied, 0.972667 s, 1.4 GB/s
╭─vindsl@Boogaloo-6 ~/Downloads/ISOs
╰─$

Booted right up, this time  ;)
Title: Re: What would you do? [Done with it]
Post by: pin on July 18, 2019, 03:26:48 am
 8) Nice!
So, could you grep any warning or error out of dmesg? Was your eeepc's hardware supported?
Title: Re: What would you do? [Done with it]
Post by: pin on July 18, 2019, 03:32:32 am
I'd probably look around for a newer Dell E series locally and offer to trade with Dad @pin... "here this will work better for you... "

Thx spence! That's a nice suggestion  :)
I could also swap it with an old HP i have, but I don't have it with me. Anyway, 4.4.0-83 its working.
Title: Re: What would you do? [Done with it]
Post by: VinDSL on July 18, 2019, 06:47:12 am
8) Nice!
So, could you grep any warning or error out of dmesg? Was your eeepc's hardware supported?

I need to put this off for a bit. Got a real-life situation going on - prepping for a visit to our attorneys today, blah, blah, blah.

Anyway, I've got a bootable USB now. Dialog looks good, while it's booting, but I don't want to accidentally overwrite Peppermint 10.

My current thought is, I'd like to install BSD to my newly discovered SDXC capes. BSD is seeing the 65GB Lexmark flash card as a SCSI device, so that's encouraging.

I'll revisit all this on the weekend...  ;)
Title: Re: What would you do? [Done with it]
Post by: pin on July 18, 2019, 12:13:10 pm
Not sure I understood  :-\
Are you planning to install on the SD-card and boot the eeepc from it?
Or, are you talking about a different machine?
Title: Re: What would you do? [Done with it]
Post by: VinDSL on July 18, 2019, 08:50:33 pm
Are you planning to install on the SD-card and boot the eeepc from it?

Correctamundo  :)



Title: Re: What would you do? [Done with it]
Post by: pin on July 23, 2019, 12:46:52 pm
Any news on your SD-card install? I'm keen to know if it works  :)
Title: Re: What would you do? [Done with it]
Post by: VinDSL on July 23, 2019, 07:04:49 pm
I still have fekery swirling around me. For instance:

Last night, there was a massive power outage. and it was still 104F. I had to move my family to a safe location, for the night.

As an aside, I was shooting for 100 days uptime on this machine, but I only made it to 92. Damn monsoons (https://www.abc15.com/news/region-phoenix-metro/power-outages-thousands-without-power-around-the-valley-as-storms-move-through)  >:(

Anyway, no, I haven't had a chance to do anything except watch my back, for the past week or two.

I'll get to it, by n' by. I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work. It boots from the USB stick, just fine; and, booting from the SD card is one of the (three) options, when I press the <Esc> button, at startup.
Title: Re: What would you do? [Done with it]
Post by: pin on July 24, 2019, 03:52:25 am
Cheers  :)
No  rush, life first  ;D
Title: Re: What would you do? [Done with it]
Post by: VinDSL on July 24, 2019, 06:50:03 am
Cheers  :)
No  rush, life first  ;D

You know what, pin...

That would make a great slogan, for a T-Shirt :))


(http://vindsl.com/images/Selectionshot_2019-07-24_03:46:57.png)
Title: Re: What would you do? [Done with it]
Post by: pin on July 24, 2019, 01:22:31 pm
Bwahahaha  :D  8)
Title: Re: What would you do?
Post by: clatterfordslim on August 14, 2019, 09:05:43 am
Tell him he has no option .. that 1GB RAM and HDD's reach end of life in August :)

That is so funny Mark :))