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General => GNU/Linux Discussion => Topic started by: xvc on February 21, 2019, 08:37:41 am

Title: Ubuntu projected path
Post by: xvc on February 21, 2019, 08:37:41 am
Hi, guys,
Yesterday I watched Tom's from "Switched to Linux" discussion "Ubuntu: The End of an Era."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy7v5tdfSZM
If what Tom says about Ubuntu's decline comes true, how would that affect Peppermint? Will it be switched to Debian base? How hard would that be? Any thoughts? Thank you.
XVC
Title: Re: Ubuntu projected path
Post by: PCNetSpec on February 21, 2019, 02:46:37 pm
I don't see the point in a speculative answer to this because I disagree with Tom's premise in the first place .. that said, rest assure we'd follow NOBODY off a cliff ;)
Title: Re: Ubuntu projected path
Post by: xvc on February 21, 2019, 04:30:14 pm
Hi, PCNETSpec,
Thank you for the reply and for the assurance. End users depend on the developers, so I just wanted to hear a first-hand opinion from a developer. Your confidence is reassuring .
Thank you again,
XVC
Title: Re: Ubuntu projected path
Post by: scifidude79 on February 21, 2019, 10:42:50 pm
I almost stopped listening to the video when he mispronounced GNOME the first time. The "G" is silent, it's pronounced just like one of these guys:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garden_gnome

He seemed to suddenly get it right about 1/3 of the way in. ::)

One thing he's missing here is that the non LTS releases are essentially big betas for the LTS releases. Nothing they try in a non LTS release is final until they put it in a LTS release. So, until changes like this wind up in 20.04, there's nothing to really worry about. But, he's going to get people riled up over what is (for now) a nonissue. This guy has over 26k subscribers, so that's kind of irresponsible reporting.
Title: Re: Ubuntu projected path
Post by: darknet on February 22, 2019, 01:28:55 am
this is the opinion of a single individual, so do not panic immediately is the message ;)
Title: Re: Ubuntu projected path
Post by: scifidude79 on February 22, 2019, 03:16:22 am
this is the opinion of a single individual, so do not panic immediately is the message ;)

That's another way of putting it. After all, it's not like the little snippet about considering switching to Snaps instead of Apt is official. Until it is, it's a rumor.
Title: Re: Ubuntu projected path
Post by: zebedeeboss on February 23, 2019, 04:53:59 am
Here is a reply from Alan Pope of Ubuntu

https://twitter.com/popey/status/1099238146393468931 (https://twitter.com/popey/status/1099238146393468931)

Regards Zeb...
Title: Re: Ubuntu projected path
Post by: christianvl on February 23, 2019, 10:32:44 am
this is the opinion of a single individual, so do not panic immediately is the message ;)

That's another way of putting it. After all, it's not like the little snippet about considering switching to Snaps instead of Apt is official. Until it is, it's a rumor.
I totally agree. However, for the future, there is a real possibility of snaps replacing  "apt". Fedora is experimenting with something similar to silverblue (all your software is flatpack, only system "stuff", such as kernel, is updated with something like "dnf").

Considering that Fedora has a history of setting new standards (packagekit and systemd for example), there's a chance that silverblue will become the main edition in the future. I sincerely hope not.

And, to be fair, that doesn't mean that the more traditional edition will be retired or that others will follow.
Title: Re: Ubuntu projected path
Post by: scifidude79 on February 23, 2019, 06:20:04 pm
Yes, Ubuntu and Fedora are widely looked at as trendsetters in Linux. Once up on a time, it was Debian and Fedora, but Ubuntu supplanted Debian's place not long after they launched.
Title: Re: Ubuntu projected path
Post by: mintspider on February 25, 2019, 07:37:34 am
Here is a reply from Alan Pope of Ubuntu

https://twitter.com/popey/status/1099238146393468931 (https://twitter.com/popey/status/1099238146393468931)

Regards Zeb...

It was so good of Alan to be on BDLL Saturday night to explain in person.
Title: Re: Ubuntu projected path
Post by: zebedeeboss on February 25, 2019, 08:32:38 am
Here is a reply from Alan Pope of Ubuntu

https://twitter.com/popey/status/1099238146393468931 (https://twitter.com/popey/status/1099238146393468931)

Regards Zeb...

It was so good of Alan to be on BDLL Saturday night to explain in person.

I don't think it was his sole reason for being there... and it's always good when he does drop by.

Regards Zeb...
Title: Re: Ubuntu projected path
Post by: mintspider on February 25, 2019, 08:35:45 am
Here is a reply from Alan Pope of Ubuntu

https://twitter.com/popey/status/1099238146393468931 (https://twitter.com/popey/status/1099238146393468931)

Regards Zeb...

It was so good of Alan to be on BDLL Saturday night to explain in person.

I don't think it was his sole reason for being there... and it's always good when he does drop by.

Regards Zeb...
Rephrase, it was still good of Alan to answer the question in person.

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Title: Re: Ubuntu projected path
Post by: rayzer on March 13, 2019, 12:59:33 pm
kinda gave up on ubuntu when they were going through all the chopping & changing between gnome 2,3 & unity and basically made a clusterfk of the whole convergence thing. its why i always ran the non standard versions such as lubuntu