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General => GNU/Linux Discussion => Topic started by: rickc on November 30, 2018, 06:38:10 am

Title: The popularity of Peppermint...
Post by: rickc on November 30, 2018, 06:38:10 am


The strength of this distro is it's stability and speed..  This I think disadvantages Peppermint in reviews. A review cannot really look at stability, only for the time they are testing.  So the distros that get the attention tend to be ones with eye candy or special features.

I'm not sure how important it is to all concerned here to see Peppermint become more popular, but I have an idea:

Ice is a very special feature, one that doesn't get the attention is deserves. Probably because reviewers don't get given the best of it on a plate.  I think more could be done together by this community to make this the ultimate OS for the internet.

I'd recommend that for a future edition there be stacks of ICE menu entries, eg Word online etc   That would really make this OS stand out

Together we could also recommend useful websites.  I've never known an OS ship with a browser that is pre-loaded with hundreds of bookmarks, organised into useful folders. Again, that would be a standout feature

I should probably add a third idea, but I can't think of one  :D

Title: Re: The popularity of Peppermint...
Post by: johnny so-low on December 01, 2018, 01:41:02 am
peppermint has a lot more going for it than its stability ...... its all implemented so beautifully that it doesn't really stand out .. look at the simplicity of use , the devs went to great lengths to add a ton of menu commands that otherwise would be done in the terminal and therefore putting off and frustrating the new linux user , simple little things like copy to folder and move to folder options that make it simple and comfortable for a new user to get settled in and start believing that maybe linux isnt so tuff after all cause im doing this all by myself  ... and there are a lot more tucked away here and there .. the devs have have put a lot of thought into making sure a newbie never has to mess with a terminal unless they want to ...... heck have you ever set up a samba share so easily and quickly ? every other distro ive ever used involved a half hour of hunting down the right info to change the configuration script and pray you got it right ... peppermint , fast , clean , beautiful , non intimidating , and functional
Title: Re: The popularity of Peppermint...
Post by: PCNetSpec on December 01, 2018, 07:41:39 am
Thanks guys :)

In answer to rickc's suggestions:-

Peppermint 9 already has the Microsoft Office Online SSB's, along with a Skype Online SSB .. but we're always open to suggestions for more.

That said, we're not out to "rule the world" by attracting millions of new users, they'd be more than welcome but our primary goal is to focus on our CURRENT community .. if they're happy, the word will filter out on its own.
(sometimes "small and friendly" is better than "large and impersonal", don't you think ?)
Title: Re: The popularity of Peppermint...
Post by: VinDSL on December 01, 2018, 02:04:49 pm
[...] sometimes "small and friendly" is better than "large and impersonal", don't you think ?

Yup!  Like Goldilocks and The Three Bears

That site is too big...and that site is too small... but, this one is just right  ;)
Title: Re: The popularity of Peppermint...
Post by: scifidude79 on December 01, 2018, 07:04:32 pm
It's popular enough. :D
Title: Re: The popularity of Peppermint...
Post by: spence on December 01, 2018, 07:33:08 pm
 to OP @rickc ... imho, organic growth via our individual promotion of peppermintOS is what works best methinks.

Meanwhile I am spending the vast majority of my online time in www.mewe.com  (http://www.mewe.com) ... where I've been invited into a handful of linux groups. I haven't yet joined as I still feel like a relative n00b. But once I get over my jitters I will be mentioning peppermintOS all along the way.
Title: Re: The popularity of Peppermint...
Post by: PCNetSpec on December 02, 2018, 02:18:22 pm
:)
Title: Re: The popularity of Peppermint...
Post by: rickc on December 03, 2018, 06:57:59 am
Yeah, I'm still on 8!

I guess all I meant was that I find it surprising that this distro isn't far higher up the distro watch downloads.  If the community is relaxed with that, as it seems to be, then there's no problem

Having used (at best as an average user) linux for ten years, I can honestly say this is the only distro I've used where I haven't ran into problems and needed help to fix, or just do a full reinstall.  I don't feel this distro gets the wider recognition it deserves

Title: Re: The popularity of Peppermint...
Post by: scifidude79 on December 03, 2018, 07:15:36 am
Oh, I agree. Some of us have been here since Peppermint One, and there's a reason for that. This distro really works for me as a daily OS. I did a lot of Distro hopping back when I first came to this OS, and I've never found one that suits my needs better. I only have Peppermint and Windows (strictly for games) on my desktop, and Peppermint on all my other computers. One of the things I love about this OS is this chill forum. There are a lot of good people on here.

Incidentally, DistroWatch is how I first found Peppermint, over eight years ago. It popped up as a "random distro" on a page I was viewing.
Title: Re: The popularity of Peppermint...
Post by: PeppermintFan on December 04, 2018, 10:13:30 pm
I found this OS through DistroWatch as well.  I am very leery of the download numbers really being an indicator of how popular it is though.  I think the community here is a better indication of real users. 
Title: Re: The popularity of Peppermint...
Post by: scifidude79 on December 05, 2018, 08:41:42 am
It's not even download numbers, it's page hit numbers. So, you could go onto the page for an OS on DistroWatch and that registers, whether or not you do anything else with it. Every OS that's featured on the front page or DW Weekly will naturally get a page hit boost, as people will at least click on the page to see what it's about. So, no, DW's rankings aren't all that indicative of anything and should be taken with a grain of salt.
Title: Re: The popularity of Peppermint...
Post by: drowzee1872 on December 08, 2018, 10:13:55 pm
I often wonder how realistic Distrowatch's rankings actually are.

After all Manjaro getting 3852 hits per day, could actually mean that it's user's are continually grabbing new images, as the stability (I found) can be lacking. I have a machine with dual graphics cards, one built in to the CPU and a dedicated card..... Manjaro hates this setup in my experience. While it seemed to run ok, I got a crazy amount of ACPI errors when loading. Plus many new Linux Users may find using the package managers less than ideal when locating software.

We also have to factor in "Joe Bob Jr, and his three cats..." checking the distros for new releases to post a video on youtube video that will get 5 hits. "and this is Linux Mint Tessa, it has Libre office out of the box".... The number of these now makes me laugh, but could factor into a portion of the number of hits per day.

One thing that I remember from my Distro hopping days, was that I was often couldn't settle on the look and feel of any one distro. For example, the Pantheon desktop is one of my favourites, but Elementary tries to restrict it's user base to installing programs only from their software repo. Not ideal. Mint and Ubuntu come bloated with software I need to remove.

It strikes me that these distros are used by the hoppers, that cannot quite make up their mind what they want from their Linux Computer.

My current installation of Peppermint is rock solid. I removed some of the programs I didn't need or like (for example, I am not a fan of Mint's X-apps so Xed was removed in favour of Pluma), adjusted the panels to include a 2nd Panel for launchers, created my own SSB's and it has been fine ever since.

So back to Distrowatch. Peppermint should take comfort in their product, and the fact that it is excellent. Stability is a good thing. Better than a new image every few days!



Title: Re: The popularity of Peppermint...
Post by: scifidude79 on December 08, 2018, 10:17:46 pm
I often wonder how realistic Distrowatch's rankings actually are.

After all Manjaro getting 3852 hits per day, could actually mean that it's user's are continually grabbing new images, as the stability (I found) can be lacking.

Like I said, it's all based on page hits. It could even be bots going to the page.
Title: Re: The popularity of Peppermint...
Post by: PCNetSpec on December 09, 2018, 06:17:23 pm
I think it's safe to assume the sudden and massive rise of Manjaro is down to bots .. there is absolutely no way it's the most popular distro by a margin of 2:1 (or even at all).

I think it'd also be a safe bet that Ubuntu will have a larger install base than all other distros put together (probably by a large margin).
Title: Re: The popularity of Peppermint...
Post by: mintspider on February 27, 2019, 11:50:56 am
After joining Big Daddy Linux Live at the start of December 2018, I met zebedeeboss and stevesveryown
These 2 excellent guys (pay me later) have a passion for Peppermint.
BDLL also tested the Peppermint 9 respin, which was a joy to install and test. Zeb taught me how to use the Ice application.
Since then I have installed Pep9 on my 2nd Alienware laptop, and also on my Pastor's wife's Lenovo IdeaPad.
That low spec device was struggling on Windows 10, and now zips along fast ... literally pepped up!!!
Title: Re: The popularity of Peppermint...
Post by: PCNetSpec on February 27, 2019, 02:12:38 pm
Not met EB yet then ? .. he's another Peppermint champion :)
Title: Re: The popularity of Peppermint...
Post by: mintspider on February 27, 2019, 02:17:31 pm
Not met EB yet then ? .. he's another Peppermint champion :)
Yeah, I also know EB, but I met Zeb & Steve first, and interact more with them.
Have actually video chatted with Steve a few times on his show.

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Title: Re: The popularity of Peppermint...
Post by: PCNetSpec on February 27, 2019, 02:18:50 pm
Yeah he's kinda hard to miss :))
Title: Re: The popularity of Peppermint...
Post by: Johan on March 01, 2019, 10:56:46 am
I'm a Peppermint addict :D
Title: Re: The popularity of Peppermint...
Post by: PCNetSpec on March 01, 2019, 12:23:09 pm
We all know that Johan .. a line of Peppermint in the morning, and another at night .. I'm surprised your nose doesn't glow red and white :))
Title: Re: The popularity of Peppermint...
Post by: murraymint on March 01, 2019, 12:44:19 pm
Look closer, his nose is gone entirely!

 ???
Title: Re: The popularity of Peppermint...
Post by: rayzer on March 01, 2019, 01:07:37 pm
maybe add some social media links for say facebook, twitter etc, i havent got ice as im currently on debian but can still make shortcuts for sites which i dump into usr/share/applications and they show up under Other in my menu. the only thing i dont like in peppermint are the icons, usually switch em to faenza or similar
Title: Re: The popularity of Peppermint...
Post by: PCNetSpec on March 01, 2019, 02:16:42 pm
Theming will NEVER suit everyone .. no matter what you choose, some will love it, some will hate it with a vengeance.
Title: Re: The popularity of Peppermint...
Post by: darknet on March 02, 2019, 06:14:08 am
The popularity of Peppermint... ??? really simple... it just works and it's the fastest distro I have ever used ;)
Title: Re: The popularity of Peppermint...
Post by: Pepper9 on April 15, 2019, 04:35:54 am
The popularity of Peppermint... ??? really simple... it just works and it's the fastest distro I have ever used ;)

I concur  :) Ease of use, stability (sometimes one of my machines runs for days on end and just keeps working), fast, looks good. The BEST part (for me that is) is the ICE implementation and the SSB's that comes with it. I love using it and use the cr*p out of it, lol.

The only distro I have used (and use) which is faster is Puppy Linux but given the way it works it's not a fair comparison to Peppermint OS. I think I will stick with Peppermint as it meets all of my demands in a distro. Minimalism: Less is always more.
 8)
Title: Re: The popularity of Peppermint...
Post by: PCNetSpec on April 15, 2019, 06:57:35 am
Many thanks Pepper9 :)
Title: Re: The popularity of Peppermint...
Post by: Pepper9 on April 28, 2019, 06:27:12 am
Speaking of Peppermint's popularity: (Why) Is the Peppermint Facebook page inactive? Last post is from December 23rd of last year. If there's one platform that could spread Peppermint is's Facebook.

Any plans to revive it? Need some help with that? I'd be more than happy to keep it running (again)  8)
Title: Re: The popularity of Peppermint...
Post by: PCNetSpec on April 28, 2019, 04:10:48 pm
It's alive but I haven't time to post to it (or really monitor it) .. if anyone want to become our "social media manager" please first prove yourself on this forum for a while, then we'll speak :)

Or if any of the current team are interested .. hit me up with a PM.
Title: Re: The popularity of Peppermint...
Post by: clatterfordslim on April 29, 2019, 06:59:16 am
I'm on Facebook too, but never use it. Everyday get a email about notifications, with new pictures that people have taken of their food, cat, dog, hair brush, wisdom teeth, pigeons and seagulls getting saved, from being eaten, by a giant chocolate flavoured marshmallow man. And that type of thing okay so the giant chocolate flavoured marshmallow man is a bit extreme, but come on, really do I need to know anything about what other people are doing, at a particular time of day? No and am I bothered? No. The sad reality is and even the writers of Facebook agree that it's turned into a thumbs up and down site.
I've witnessed someone I know get herself in a right state, because she never got an answer from a message she sent, two seconds previously. It's amazing how much people rely on that site. I'd admit it is good for business, but for everything else, in my honest opinion it ain't for me. :)
Title: Re: The popularity of Peppermint...
Post by: clatterfordslim on April 29, 2019, 08:05:59 am


The strength of this distro is it's stability and speed..  This I think disadvantages Peppermint in reviews. A review cannot really look at stability, only for the time they are testing.  So the distros that get the attention tend to be ones with eye candy or special features.

I'm not sure how important it is to all concerned here to see Peppermint become more popular, but I have an idea:

Ice is a very special feature, one that doesn't get the attention is deserves. Probably because reviewers don't get given the best of it on a plate.  I think more could be done together by this community to make this the ultimate OS for the internet.

I'd recommend that for a future edition there be stacks of ICE menu entries, eg Word online etc   That would really make this OS stand out

Together we could also recommend useful websites.  I've never known an OS ship with a browser that is pre-loaded with hundreds of bookmarks, organised into useful folders. Again, that would be a standout feature

I should probably add a third idea, but I can't think of one  :D





It was thanks to English Bob who got me hooked on Peppermint, back in Peppermint 7, oh the time I had on that distro. Then came Peppermint 7 Respin, then not long after that the fantastic Peppermint 8, then the Respin, then the fanatisco Peppermint 9, then count them two respins. Like with any computer, it all depends on what you, the end user wants a computer for? Me I love technology, love the fact that everyday I can catch up on emails, videos from my favourite creators on YouTube, make videos myself, do some light gaming, live stream to YouTube, watch films on DVD or very soon Blu-ray. My Linux history goes back to Ubuntu 10.04, when everything and I mean everything, had to be built or configured yourself. The idea behind Peppermint OS is to make a Linux system, for the end user with nearly everything out of the box, but we live in a world of choice. So instead of bulking the system out with heavy apps to use, the Pep team have made it so you or us the user, choose what we want and in doing so, have made a light system for all of us to enjoy and customise the hell out of. Ice Apps are fantastic, they take no internal resource up, apart from maybe a bit of ram, to use Firefox with.

Another great thing I love, is the fact that Peppermint is in my opinion, the most reliable Ubuntu based system on the planet. I can run Peppermint all day long and it never whines, gripes, crashes, it just does what it says on the tin. Everything from AAA games on Steam, to even Dolphin emulator and after I have built my new build, it will be running the fantastic PS2 and PS3 emulators, that I will Live Stream to YouTube. Plus I'm going to get finally a PS4 to capture with my inbuilt capture card. I have big plans for this summer here in Peppermint and I know for a fact that it will just be an absolute pleasure using, such a wonderful OS. It's not just about the OS either, it's the little touches that Mark Greaves and his team put into their OS, that let's face it you won't find on any other. Like Numix-Folders, I absolutely love Numix Circle Icons and they included the Numix-Folders, for us all to be able to change the colour of, Neofetch has an activation button, under Tweaks inside Peppermint Settings Panel , plus a whole barrage of other things added to make our lives as users easier.

Hardly any problems asked, here on this site, that PCNetSpec doesn't answer and a majority of the queries I have seen, have all been solved. Just goes to show when you look at other Linux Distro forums, the amount of problems that do not get solved, simply because that particular Distro, is so famous and well known, that they are finding it difficult to maintain. Where as here in Peppermint, I think the size of the community and the users are just right. I will carry on supporting and promoting Peppermint, till the end of my days, on this planet. I have never ever used such a reliable, stable system in all my life. :)
Title: Re: The popularity of Peppermint...
Post by: PCNetSpec on April 29, 2019, 08:31:33 am
Thanks for the kind words Slim .. small 'n' friendly suits me just fine, we're not out to rule the world :)
Title: Re: The popularity of Peppermint...
Post by: 151tom on April 29, 2019, 10:37:22 am
small 'n' friendly suits me just fine :)
I like small and friendly.

I don't want Linux to rule the world because if that were to happen I believe that a lot of the unwanted bad that comes with Windows will become part of Linux although I may be wrong.

After all Linux ain't for everyone.
Title: Re: The popularity of Peppermint...
Post by: clatterfordslim on April 29, 2019, 11:24:07 am
small 'n' friendly suits me just fine :)
I like small and friendly.

I don't want Linux to rule the world because if that were to happen I believe that a lot of the unwanted bad that comes with Windows will become part of Linux although I may be wrong.

After all Linux ain't for everyone.


Linux already rules the world, from satellite navigation systems, to Super Computers guarding our money in banks, even the brand new cars in the showroom, are running Linux. On the dashboard of my Renault Scenic 2009 it is Linux, it's GTK2 theming, either dark or light, telling you the speed you're going, how much fuel and what song is being played, through my USB stick. Quite scary to think that car manufacturers rely on Linux, but good at the same time.  If Linux was recognised on the desktop as Windows is, you're right we'll be inundated with all types of threats. And as you say Linux is not for everyone, but if I could just say to people here is an alternative and look what I'm running and doing on my computer, which is running the same as your Proprietary system and quicker, plus more reliably, then it'll open peoples eyes a bit more, but not to the point where every Tom, Dick and Harry on the planet is using Linux. The same can be said for gaming, just need game developers to say yes to a Linux version of their games. Surely to all things holy than my jumper, Linux is easier to make games on, or at least code to?? ;D
Title: Re: The popularity of Peppermint...
Post by: 151tom on April 29, 2019, 12:14:13 pm
Agreed.  :)

I should have said I don't want Linux to rule the world on the home desktop user base.