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General => GNU/Linux Discussion => Topic started by: pin on October 27, 2018, 06:54:35 am

Title: THE man is back
Post by: pin on October 27, 2018, 06:54:35 am
It probably took longer then expected, but Linus is back at the wheel  :)
Evidence here https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/

In the meantime 4.19.0 is running just fine on my PM7  8)
Title: Re: THE man is back
Post by: zebedeeboss on October 27, 2018, 07:28:27 am
He was gone for one kernel release - How is that a long time ?

If I am honest I expected at least 6 months

Regards Zeb...
Title: Re: THE man is back
Post by: PCNetSpec on October 27, 2018, 07:56:19 am
I doubt he ever left development .. more just being the public face.
Title: Re: THE man is back
Post by: manyroads on October 27, 2018, 08:24:22 am
I missed that news. It is good to know.  However like for all projects, having a succession plan (and testing it) is crucial. No one stays forever....  :o
Title: Re: THE man is back
Post by: pin on October 27, 2018, 12:04:33 pm
He was gone for one kernel release - How is that a long time ?

If I am honest I expected at least 6 months

Regards Zeb...
Well, he was away for 6 weeks  :D
Title: Re: THE man is back
Post by: scifidude79 on October 27, 2018, 08:00:52 pm
He was gone? (no, I'm not being sarcastic) I knew there was some stuff going on, but I don't follow development.
Title: Re: THE man is back
Post by: pin on October 28, 2018, 01:57:51 am
He was gone? (no, I'm not being sarcastic) I knew there was some stuff going on, but I don't follow development.
During ~6 weeks there were no commits from him. Or, to be more specific, from his git account. If he was pushing things under a different name, it's impossible to know...
Title: Re: THE man is back
Post by: scifidude79 on October 28, 2018, 05:36:03 pm
Well, not to be mean or anything, but the world didn't stop turning, right? After all, other people are capable of doing this development. I certainly like using what he built, but it's not like he is Linux. If he up and retired from development, Linux would go on.
Title: Re: THE man is back
Post by: PCNetSpec on October 28, 2018, 06:12:21 pm
Yep, he's certainly "Mr Linux", but he's not "Linux" .. we're WAY beyond the point where Linux would immediately die without him.
(if it was ever at that point to begin with after he initially released it)

I'd hate to see him go because he's a known quantity plotting an understood course, and who knows where the next guy will steer it .. but it would almost certainly survive, at least in the short to medium term.

Nothing lasts forever, Linux will eventually die as will Windows and be replaced with something more current .. but it's not disappearing any time soon, heck it's never been stronger.
Title: Re: THE man is back
Post by: scifidude79 on October 28, 2018, 06:21:33 pm
I don't dislike Linus Torvalds. In fact, I have no strong opinion of him one way or the other. I love Linux. But then, I loved Windows for years with no real feelings about Bill Gates. ;) (have not been fond of Gates's successors, though) Linus definitely takes the kernel in the directions it needs to go. Plus, the fact that he's still hands on and passionate about it after all these years is great. Some people would have left already.
Title: Re: THE man is back
Post by: PCNetSpec on October 28, 2018, 07:05:47 pm
I 'appreciate' him, and I 'think' I'd like him .. but who knows until you meet someone ???

Gates on the other hand I've always KNOWN I'd dislike .. he's always reminded me of a cartoon weasel (in more ways than one).
http://techrights.org/2018/10/26/texas-intellectual-ventures-dominion-harbor/
Title: Re: THE man is back
Post by: scifidude79 on October 28, 2018, 08:41:18 pm
I'm not saying I don't dislike Gates now, I just didn't know any better when I blindly used Windows only. ;)

I will say he does a lot of good with his fortune, though. So, at least we can say he has one redeeming quality. That's more than you can say for the late Steve Jobs.
Title: Re: THE man is back
Post by: PCNetSpec on October 29, 2018, 08:41:03 am
I will say he does a lot of good with his fortune, though.

I'm not convinced .. if you follow the threads of most of his philanthropic projects back, it nearly always ends up back with big pharma .. and guess where he invested the money he got from his Microsoft shares.

Call me a conspiracy nut, but from my perspective it's just Gates being Gates, making money at everyone else's expense whilst convincing everyone (and possibly even himself) he's doing "good".
Title: Re: THE man is back
Post by: pin on January 07, 2019, 03:51:28 pm
Ok, a bit off-topic...
Ok, VinDSL actually tried it first...
Ok, I was told not to..., shall we say, increase the interest of the less experienced user?
...but, this is a landmark!
Like they said on BDLL, it doesn't matter what you "throw at it", it just works  :)

PM7 running linux kernel 5.0.0-rc1 here  :)

(https://i.imgur.com/QcPnWrO.png)

EDIT: Don't do this at home!  ;)
Title: Re: THE man is back
Post by: VinDSL on January 07, 2019, 04:05:55 pm
Like they said on BDLL, it doesn't matter what you "throw at it", it just works  :)


Got that right, pin


Peppermint 9 - Linux 5.0.x - 2004 Dell Dimension 3000 PC (32bit PCI only) - Conky/ConkyWX
OpenGL NV98 Rendering - 1G Full Duplex w IPv6 & IPv4 connections - English Bob Wallpaper


(http://vindsl.com/images/Screenshot_2019-01-07_13:53:27.png)


No breakage joy to work on, but hey, you can't have it all...   ;D


EDIT


Oh, I forgot.  Peppermint 9 on top of Linux 5.0.x recognizes both optical drives AND floppies (with a little nudging).

Sweet  8)


(http://vindsl.com/images/Screenshot_2019-01-07_14:43:53.png)


As an aside, I randomly picked that CD and floppy out of the closet and dusted them off, for testing.

The floppy was an ancient winders utility called LaunchOnFly. The CD was Debian 2.0 (pre-'debian-installer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian-Installer)').

I'm surprised the floppy still worked. Being a magnetic medium, it's subject to data rot and decay.

CDs, on the other hand, will probably outlast humanity, here on Earth.

That's why it's a better to use optical drives for backups than magnetic medium, but I digress...