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General => Development => Topic started by: emegra on December 17, 2017, 09:26:52 am

Title: Is Evince our best choice
Post by: emegra on December 17, 2017, 09:26:52 am
Hi guys
This could just be me but I came across a problem with Evince I just couldn't get round and was solved instantly with another viewer

My missus bought 4 tickets for a Little Mix concert (yeah I know) which was emailed to her then downloaded to her PC when she tried to print them they came out like this
(https://i.imgur.com/8kbmDZF.png)

Nothing I could do could get it to print properly in either of 2 printers yet the previews showed it to be perfectly scaled so I went directly to the email and opened them up and they printed perfectly from there.

So I went looking for  another PDF viewer in synaptic but there's not a great choice to be honest and what I did try was either crap or didn't have a print function, I looked online and found Foxit, installed it and it printed the tickets perfectly first time, in spite of that I don't really like Foxit it looks like it's written in QT so looks a bit out of place but it works nonetheless

So do we have a problem with Evince or is it just me and if we do have a problem is there a better choice available


Graeme

Title: Re: Is Evince our best choice
Post by: PCNetSpec on December 17, 2017, 10:03:00 am
Can't say I've ever tried printing from evince...

Evince does more than just pdf's but for those I normally use Master PDF Editor .. but its proprietary so can't be included in Peppermint as a default.

https://code-industry.net/free-pdf-editor/
Title: Re: Is Evince our best choice
Post by: scifidude79 on December 17, 2017, 10:08:20 am
I think Evince is probably the best lightweight open source PDF viewer.  There's Okular, which I find to be better than Evince, but it's a KDE program and we know why that's a bad idea.
Title: Re: Is Evince our best choice
Post by: PCNetSpec on December 17, 2017, 10:14:44 am
What is it with KDE and the letter "K"...

Says the guy who called the new theme 'Pepirus' :))
Title: Re: Is Evince our best choice
Post by: emegra on December 17, 2017, 10:18:53 am
I'm not saying Evince is a bad choice I like Evince I've never had a problem with it until this

All I'm saying is if this is an issue and we can't fix it shouldn't we be looking for an alternative ?



Graeme
Title: Re: Is Evince our best choice
Post by: emegra on December 17, 2017, 10:21:36 am
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I think Evince is probably the best lightweight open source PDF viewer.  There's Okular, which I find to be better than Evince, but it's a KDE program and we know why that's a bad idea.

I agree but have you tried printing from Evince ?



Graeme
Title: Re: Is Evince our best choice
Post by: PCNetSpec on December 17, 2017, 10:24:07 am
Is there a workable alternative ? .. should really be the first question.

[EDIT]

IIRC, I looked for something previously because of the way evince's apparmor rule was broken .. but it turned out there wasn't one and I ended up having to fix the apparmor instead.
Title: Re: Is Evince our best choice
Post by: emegra on December 17, 2017, 10:43:38 am
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Is there a workable alternative ? .. should really be the first question.

Well we're not exactly spoiled for choice this could just be a one off problem

 I just tried printing a few PDF files I have on my PC and they printed fine from Evince, the difference being that they had a paper size of 216 x 297 whereas the tickets were 300 x 399 so it's like Evince wasn't scaling down properly and Foxit and the online PDF viewer were I don't know



Graeme
Title: Re: Is Evince our best choice
Post by: PCNetSpec on December 17, 2017, 11:01:07 am
I feel for you mate, a problem indeed...

Not so much the printing, but that you're having to go to a "little mix" show :))

On the other hand, maybe a godsend you should write and thank the evince devs for ?



Okay obvious joking aside .. if there's a better solution (to evince, not the concert which I already know there is .. damn can't help myself) I'm all ears ?
Title: Re: Is Evince our best choice
Post by: emegra on December 17, 2017, 11:06:37 am
Disclaimer

Lets be absolutely clear about this

I AM NOT GOING TO THE LITTLE MIX CONCERT


The tickets are for my missus my daughter my grand daughter and her cousin

and anyone else who suggests I'm going to this concert will be hearing from my lawyer  >:(



Graeme



Title: Re: Is Evince our best choice
Post by: scifidude79 on December 17, 2017, 11:22:11 am
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I think Evince is probably the best lightweight open source PDF viewer.  There's Okular, which I find to be better than Evince, but it's a KDE program and we know why that's a bad idea.

I agree but have you tried printing from Evince ?



Graeme

No, I usually don't even use Evince that much.

Though, if you want a workable alternative that's built into your system, just set your PDF files to open in your web browser.  I can't speak for Chrome/Chromium, but I've never had a problem printing a PDF from Firefox.
Title: Re: Is Evince our best choice
Post by: PCNetSpec on December 17, 2017, 11:59:40 am
Disclaimer

Lets be absolutely clear about this

I AM NOT GOING TO THE LITTLE MIX CONCERT


The tickets are for my missus my daughter my grand daughter and her cousin

and anyone else who suggests I'm going to this concert will be hearing from my lawyer  >:(

Bwahahahaha :))
Title: Re: Is Evince our best choice
Post by: christianvl on December 21, 2017, 02:28:28 pm
In my opinion, Evince is better than Okular.

The problem, for me, with all Linux PDF viewers, is the lack of support to verify or validade digital signatures in PDF files... Some programs offers the feature (Master, Foxit) but I never got it to work.

They all work with Windows (but that is something that I don't and won't have in my computer).
Title: Re: Is Evince our best choice
Post by: tinkereR on January 24, 2018, 01:18:58 pm
My concern with Evince is the user interface. With it being so closely related to the GNOME project, do they at some point intend to push for Client Side Decorations outside of GNOME Shell?
The closest alternatives then would be either X-Reader or Atril.