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Title: P 8 not showing grub or starting after install
Post by: awweeks1 on December 13, 2017, 10:39:59 pm
Here is a pastebin file from boot repair disc after installing with installation updates and codecs(both ticks checked after selecting language):

Ubuntu Pastebin

Paste from boot-repair at Thu, 14 Dec 2017 02:24:51 +0000


Boot Info Script 8f991e4 + Boot-Repair extra info      [Boot-Info 25oct2017]

Please let me know what of the pastebin i need to provide to see why i can't use the distro.  The file exceeded 3000 characters or i would have pasted in entirety!

Maybe these hyperlinks will let you all see what is going on.

http://paste.ubuntu.com/26180499/

http://paste.ubuntu.com/26180725/

second hyperlink is after trying to install grub to sda3 i believe.  Thanks if someone can help see what is happening.  I am self taught of linux and still need to learn alot.
Title: Re: P 8 not showing grub or starting after install
Post by: murraymint on December 13, 2017, 11:59:27 pm
Did you notice this at the very bottom?

Quote
The boot files of [Peppermint 8 Eight] are far from the start of the disk. Your BIOS may not detect them. You may want to retry after creating a /boot partition (EXT4, >200MB, start of the disk). This can be performed via tools such as gParted. Then select this partition via the [Separate /boot partition:] option of [Boot Repair]. (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootPartition)

I'd advise against trying to do that just yet. It would mean messing around with your Windows partition.

Which drive have you set it to boot from in BIOS?

What happens when you try to boot from sda or sdb?
Title: Re: P 8 not showing grub or starting after install
Post by: awweeks1 on December 14, 2017, 07:38:55 am
Did you see i tried from sda3 and i think sda5?

I had installed earlier to the hard drive that was 120 Gbs and it does the same thing.

Is this respin 8 just for uefi and secure boot only?  Reason i ask is i have no options of switch both on or off.  This is an old system.


I am trying to follow the English Bob series to learn Peppermint where i can finally game through steam and i like how the distro is setup.  If forced to use only the earlier Pepp 8 can i still get some of the new features to the Pepp 8 earlier version?  I like the menu setup for online apps which would be great to have.  Thanks!

How would i boot from the ones you mentioned? 
Title: Re: P 8 not showing grub or starting after install
Post by: zebedeeboss on December 14, 2017, 08:27:45 am
Did you see i tried from sda3 and i think sda5?

I had installed earlier to the hard drive that was 120 Gbs and it does the same thing.

Is this respin 8 just for uefi and secure boot only?  Reason i ask is i have no options of switch both on or off.  This is an old system.


I am trying to follow the English Bob series to learn Peppermint where i can finally game through steam and i like how the distro is setup.  If forced to use only the earlier Pepp 8 can i still get some of the new features to the Pepp 8 earlier version?  I like the menu setup for online apps which would be great to have.  Thanks!

How would i boot from the ones you mentioned?

If Peppermint 8 is working for you then there is no need to update to the respin. English Bob's tutorials will work the same on Pep 8 and the respin.   What you should be asking is will your old system be good enough to run games on...

There will - once it has been tested and proven - hopefully be an upgrade path users can follow.

Regards Zeb...
Title: Re: P 8 not showing grub or starting after install
Post by: PCNetSpec on December 14, 2017, 08:34:11 am
Okay I'm lost here, so which of the above 2 pastebins is the current configuration ?

And can you boot to the LiveUSB and post the output from:
Code: [Select]
sudo fdisk -l

Are you saying that Peppermint 8 installed and worked, but the respin doesn't ?
Title: Re: P 8 not showing grub or starting after install
Post by: murraymint on December 14, 2017, 10:36:10 am
Is this respin 8 just for uefi and secure boot only?
No, it should work on legacy/BIOS boot systems.

Quote
How would i boot from the ones you mentioned?

I just mean your first and second hard drives. Normally you would either go into the BIOS and set the boot order, or press a function key during boot to choose a boot drive.

So what exactly happens when you try to boot from the internal hard drives?
Title: Re: P 8 not showing grub or starting after install
Post by: PCNetSpec on December 14, 2017, 10:42:00 am
I think what murraymint is saying is that your first output suggests GRUB stage one was loaded to the master boot record of your SECOND hard drive.

So unless you make this the primary boot device, it will never get enacted.
Title: Re: P 8 not showing grub or starting after install
Post by: awweeks1 on December 14, 2017, 12:33:04 pm
Okay I'm lost here, so which of the above 2 pastebins is the current configuration ?

And can you boot to the LiveUSB and post the output from:
Code: [Select]
sudo fdisk -l

Are you saying that Peppermint 8 installed and worked, but the respin doesn't ?

I am going to try loading it to the second drive and make the boot partition before the /root partition and change boot drives to the second disk.  I was able to run pep respin from usb drive that i installed it from.  If it doesn't load again, i will try your code.  What does it do?  thanks all for helping!
Title: Re: P 8 not showing grub or starting after install
Post by: PCNetSpec on December 14, 2017, 02:19:55 pm
It just lists the partitions .. it won't fix anything but it'll give us an idea where to start.

Whilst you're at it, can you also post the output from:
Code: [Select]
inxi -Fz
Title: Re: P 8 not showing grub or starting after install
Post by: awweeks1 on December 14, 2017, 04:03:41 pm
It just lists the partitions .. it won't fix anything but it'll give us an idea where to start.

Whilst you're at it, can you also post the output from:
Code: [Select]
inxi -Fz

Tried 3 more times and getting an error grub partition not found.  Here is sudo fdisk -l:

peppermint@peppermint ~ $ sudo fdisk -l
Disk /dev/loop0: 1.2 GiB, 1257021440 bytes, 2455120 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes


Disk /dev/sda: 1.8 TiB, 2000398934016 bytes, 3907029168 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0x6bc67a18

Device     Boot Start        End    Sectors  Size Id Type
/dev/sda1  *     2048 2422358015 2422355968  1.1T  7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT




Disk /dev/sdb: 111.8 GiB, 120034123776 bytes, 234441648 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0xd86aed9c

Device     Boot    Start      End  Sectors   Size Id Type
/dev/sdb2  *        4094 81922047 81917954  39.1G  5 Extended
/dev/sdb5           4096  1642767  1638672 800.1M 83 Linux
/dev/sdb6        1644544 22125012 20480469   9.8G 83 Linux
/dev/sdb7       22126592 40558591 18432000   8.8G 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sdb8       40560640 81922047 41361408  19.7G 83 Linux


Disk /dev/sdc: 14.6 GiB, 15639101440 bytes, 30545120 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0x296cab1a

Device     Boot Start      End  Sectors  Size Id Type
/dev/sdc1  *     2048 30545119 30543072 14.6G  c W95 FAT32 (LBA)


Disk /dev/zram0: 637.3 MiB, 668241920 bytes, 163145 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 4096 = 4096 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/zram1: 637.3 MiB, 668241920 bytes, 163145 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 4096 = 4096 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/zram2: 637.3 MiB, 668241920 bytes, 163145 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 4096 = 4096 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
Title: Re: P 8 not showing grub or starting after install
Post by: awweeks1 on December 14, 2017, 04:14:59 pm
It just lists the partitions .. it won't fix anything but it'll give us an idea where to start.

Whilst you're at it, can you also post the output from:
Code: [Select]
inxi -Fz

inxi -Fz comes back with:

peppermint@peppermint ~ $ inxi -Fz
System:    Host: peppermint Kernel: 4.10.0-40-generic x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: N/A
           Distro: Peppermint Eight
Machine:   System: Gateway product: N/A v: 7B3G1P04
           Mobo: Gateway model: N/A
           Bios: American Megatrends v: 7B3G1P04 date: 02/18/2008
CPU:       Triple core AMD Phenom 8400 -Core (-MCP-) cache: 1536 KB
           clock speeds: max: 2100 MHz 1: 2100 MHz 2: 1050 MHz 3: 1050 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RS780 [Radeon HD 3200]
           Display Server: X.Org 1.19.3 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1680x1050@59.95hz
           GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on AMD RS780 (DRM 2.49.0 / 4.10.0-40-generic, LLVM 4.0.0)
           GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 17.0.2
Audio:     Card-1 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RS780 HDMI Audio [Radeon (HD) 3000 Series]
           driver: snd_hda_intel
           Card-2 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
           driver: snd_hda_intel
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.10.0-40-generic
Network:   Card: Marvell 88E8071 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: sky2
           IF: enp3s0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 2136.1GB (0.6% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD2002FAEX size: 2000.4GB
           ID-2: /dev/sdb model: MDT_MD1200JS size: 120.0GB
           ID-3: USB /dev/sdc model: USB_Flash_Disk size: 15.6GB
Partition: ID-1: swap-1 size: 9.44GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sdb7
           ID-2: swap-2 size: 0.67GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/zram0
           ID-3: swap-3 size: 0.67GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/zram1
           ID-4: swap-4 size: 0.67GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/zram2
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   None detected - is lm-sensors installed and configured?
Info:      Processes: 188 Uptime: 18 min Memory: 634.8/3823.7MB
           Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.2.35
peppermint@peppermint ~ $
Title: Re: P 8 not showing grub or starting after install
Post by: awweeks1 on December 14, 2017, 04:16:10 pm
if you can tell me how to repair also my windows os on the first hard drive of 2.0 TB i would appreciate it.  thanks!
Title: Re: P 8 not showing grub or starting after install
Post by: murraymint on December 14, 2017, 04:20:13 pm
Does it even work to have a /boot partition within an extended partition? Anyone know?  :-\

For repairing Windows you're probably going to need your Windows installation disc and look for a guide such as this:
https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-perform-a-startup-repair-in-windows-7-2626170
Title: Re: P 8 not showing grub or starting after install
Post by: awweeks1 on December 14, 2017, 04:25:53 pm
Disk /dev/sdb: 111.8 GiB, 120034123776 bytes, 234441648 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0xd86aed9c

Device     Boot    Start      End  Sectors   Size Id Type
/dev/sdb2  *        4094 81922047 81917954  39.1G  5 Extended
/dev/sdb5           4096  1642767  1638672 800.1M 83 Linux
/dev/sdb6        1644544 22125012 20480469   9.8G 83 Linux
/dev/sdb7       22126592 40558591 18432000   8.8G 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sdb8       40560640 81922047 41361408  19.7G 83 Linux


Above is the drive i tried installing pepp 8 respin for 3 times today.

Following were setup and formatted every time i tried installing:

sdb2 was made for /boot
sdb5 was where i originally each time said to place the /boot on
sdb6 was made for /root
sdb7  swap
sdb8  was made for  /home

This is the 2nd hard drive and i did each time switch the 2nd for primary drive through my BIOS settings
Title: Re: P 8 not showing grub or starting after install
Post by: awweeks1 on December 14, 2017, 04:31:03 pm
Does it even work to have a /boot partition within an extended partition? Anyone know?  :-\

For repairing Windows you're probably going to need your Windows installation disc and look for a guide such as this:
https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-perform-a-startup-repair-in-windows-7-2626170

First installation try today was done without installing updates and 3rd party software with the /boot the way you are asking and it installed the system but when i went to get updates, pep 8 respin would not see my NIC card so tried 2 more times and nothing.  Every thing else seemed to work fine on the first installation  previously mentioned.

With my specs given, would it be better for me to run 32 bit or the 64 bit OS.
Title: Re: P 8 not showing grub or starting after install
Post by: murraymint on December 14, 2017, 04:46:31 pm
You've got a 64-bit machine so I'd stick with 64-bit unless you encounter problems after installation.

I think your network card driver could be fixed from a live session after installation if required, there was no need to try to reinstall for that reason.

Here's a question which may simplify things:
Do you want to use your whole 112GB drive for Peppermint? There's nothing on there you need to keep, is there?
Title: Re: P 8 not showing grub or starting after install
Post by: PCNetSpec on December 14, 2017, 05:09:10 pm
So Windows on the first drive doesn't work either ?

Which drive is set as the first boot device in the BIOS ?



Oh and YES, Linux will boot if every partition is in an extended partition .. GRUB doesn't care, but the Windows bootloader does.
Title: Re: P 8 not showing grub or starting after install
Post by: awweeks1 on December 14, 2017, 07:58:53 pm
You've got a 64-bit machine so I'd stick with 64-bit unless you encounter problems after installation.

I think your network card driver could be fixed from a live session after installation if required, there was no need to try to reinstall for that reason.

Here's a question which may simplify things:
Do you want to use your whole 112GB drive for Peppermint? There's nothing on there you need to keep, is there?
I rather keep some of the drive as don't you have to keep some memory to run oracle virtual box?  If there is another way please let me know.  thanks!
Title: Re: P 8 not showing grub or starting after install
Post by: awweeks1 on December 14, 2017, 08:08:57 pm
So Windows on the first drive doesn't work either ?

Windows doesn't work but i have many files that i can't delete from that drive.

Which drive is set as the first boot device in the BIOS ?

The one windows is on is first boot but again, out of 3 times installing this morning i had switched first boot to the 112 GB drive and i loaded the distro after installing but just didn't recognize my NIC card so i had to try it again.  I had many distros installed on computer before without any problems.



Oh and YES, Linux will boot if every partition is in an extended partition .. GRUB doesn't care, but the Windows bootloader does.
   As for the windows OS, i tried the windows disk in the system and it said it couldn't be fixed like they wanted me to throw away a perfectly fine drive!  I have noticed with running dvd drives in this desktop with windows, the dvds come out at least 4x to 5x hotter than when you accomplish the same task with Emmabuntus XFCE!  Same thing happens with the cpu and fan running 10x faster and longer than using a linux distro!  If i had someone to back my findings, i would sue microsoft for damages!
Title: Re: P 8 not showing grub or starting after install
Post by: murraymint on December 14, 2017, 08:50:42 pm
I rather keep some of the drive as don't you have to keep some memory to run oracle virtual box?  If there is another way please let me know.  thanks!

Yes, I suggest you

1) select "Erase disk and install Peppermint OS 8"

2) MAKE SURE to select your 112GB drive from the dropdown menu on the following screen, similar to this:
(https://www.howtoforge.com/images/perfect_desktop_mint_13_maya_xfce/big/7.jpg)

3) If asked which device to install the bootloader to, again be sure to select the 112GB drive


This should automatically give you a bootable system. If your networking doesn't work, DON'T PANIC - come back here and ask for help with it. When you want to make room for virtual OSes you can then


4) Boot into your Live USB session and use GParted to shrink the Peppermint partition.

I'm afraid the Windows salvage might be beyond the scope of this forum though - which is not to say that it's going to be impossible; I've no idea.

Title: Re: P 8 not showing grub or starting after install
Post by: PCNetSpec on December 14, 2017, 08:59:06 pm
Was Windows working before you installed Linux ?

you're making this topic nearly impossible for me to follow, right now I have no idea which drives are in the PC, which is the primary boot device, which disk has windows on it, whether Peppermint is on a drive at all and if so which one and which architecture of Peppermint ?

The problem is you keep moving the target so I'd find it very hard to help you.

Please put BOTH drives back in the PC .. Set the NON Windows disk as the primary boot device .. then boot to a LiveUSB/LiveCD and post the output from:
Code: [Select]
sudo fdisk -l
so we can get a picture of your current partition layout.
Title: Re: P 8 not showing grub or starting after install
Post by: awweeks1 on December 15, 2017, 05:49:06 am
I rather keep some of the drive as don't you have to keep some memory to run oracle virtual box?  If there is another way please let me know.  thanks!

Yes, I suggest you

1) select "Erase disk and install Peppermint OS 8"

2) MAKE SURE to select your 112GB drive from the dropdown menu on the following screen, similar to this:
(https://www.howtoforge.com/images/perfect_desktop_mint_13_maya_xfce/big/7.jpg)

3) If asked which device to install the bootloader to, again be sure to select the 112GB drive


This should automatically give you a bootable system. If your networking doesn't work, DON'T PANIC - come back here and ask for help with it. When you want to make room for virtual OSes you can then


4) Boot into your Live USB session and use GParted to shrink the Peppermint partition.

I'm afraid the Windows salvage might be beyond the scope of this forum though - which is not to say that it's going to be impossible; I've no idea.
yes i can erase the disk and start over but when you select this disk under something else tick, it starts asking you for partitioning for / root and others etc like it can't do it by itself and that is even with telling it where to load boot.  The menus for some of this is lacking because it should just recognize the other disk you want and start installing instead of asking you make your own partitions.

Mark,
I am using the 112 gb hard drive sdb for the installation and i do have this disk selected as primary.  I really don't understand why such a minimalistic distro is giving so much trouble loading when all these other flavors of both ubuntu, fedora, debian, manjaro installed fine to both drives.  Tell me exactly what type partitions and setup for each i need to do if you see i did anything wrong.  All partitions i made were all ext4 except Swap partition.  Thanks!
Yy
Title: Re: P 8 not showing grub or starting after install
Post by: zebedeeboss on December 15, 2017, 05:58:25 am
Hi awweeks1,

When in a situation like this it might be best to use the MSI utility ( supposing it has one) and completely reset the Laptop back to factory defaults. This will definitely remove any programs and or data you have on the disk.

When you have then got Windows fully working, you can start again installing Peppermint.

I would not wait until Peppermint is installed as the Factory reset may well wipe it out.

Regards Zeb...

ps I have no idea what this program is called in MSI laptops or how you call it up if you can't get into windows. Some allow access to it via a function key during initial boot up.  You will have to research this yourself.
Title: Re: P 8 not showing grub or starting after install
Post by: awweeks1 on December 15, 2017, 06:46:36 am
Hi awweeks1,

When in a situation like this it might be best to use the MSI utility ( supposing it has one) and completely reset the Laptop back to factory defaults. This will definitely remove any programs and or data you have on the disk.

When you have then got Windows fully working, you can start again installing Peppermint.

I would not wait until Peppermint is installed as the Factory reset may well wipe it out.

Regards Zeb...

ps I have no idea what this program is called in MSI laptops or how you call it up if you can't get into windows. Some allow access to it via a function key during initial boot up.  You will have to research this yourself.

Please tell me what the MSI utility is and how i would use it?  I have tried everything with the windows 2 TB shown above.  This was a drive that was shrinked to try putting peppermint 8 Respin beside it.
Title: Re: P 8 not showing grub or starting after install
Post by: zebedeeboss on December 15, 2017, 06:55:18 am
Hi awweeks1,

When in a situation like this it might be best to use the MSI utility ( supposing it has one) and completely reset the Laptop back to factory defaults. This will definitely remove any programs and or data you have on the disk.

Regards Zeb...

ps I have no idea what this program is called in MSI laptops or how you call it up if you can't get into windows. Some allow access to it via a function key during initial boot up.  You will have to research this yourself.

Please tell me what the MSI utility is and how i would use it?  I have tried everything with the windows 2 TB shown above.  This was a drive that was shrinked to try putting peppermint 8 Respin beside it.

As stated above - I do not have an MSI laptop - I have never had one - I do not know if they even include such a program with their laptops - I just know other Laptop manufacturers do - Sorry - can't help further. You will have to google it.

Regards Zeb...

quick google search try this - no guarantees this applies to your particular laptop though https://www.msi.com/pic/faq/10015490@2015-0817-0741-080040@faq_0000000001774_en.pdf (https://www.msi.com/pic/faq/10015490@2015-0817-0741-080040@faq_0000000001774_en.pdf)
Title: Re: P 8 not showing grub or starting after install
Post by: awweeks1 on December 15, 2017, 06:58:21 am
Hello all!  I have Peppermint 8 Respin working on the 112 gb hard drive but would like to keep this ticket open before saying it has totally installed and operated correctly.

I did have to make / (root), /home, /swap and /boot partitions on it.  Every partition except /Swap was formatted to Ext4 and had to use the "Something else" tick on the installation menu.

I have concerns to why if you select "Something Else," you don't have the option to just select the whole erase drive, point the boot option to that drive, and just let the installation flow as if you were selecting it to be automatically done.  The way it is current set is like you are being punished for selecting "Something Else."

There was a slight problem with it though, i had to use a distro installed live to a USB drive called  "Boot Repair Disk 64" which can be found at  https://sourceforge.net/projects/boot-repair-cd/files/
When you live boot a usb, the distro asks for only the language you use and then upon entering the distro it prompts a box to either do advanced or the "Recommended fix,' so what worked for my problem was running the "Recommended fix."

I know this was a little hard process to get working but shouldn't the distro be programmed for people migrating from any Windows OS  to Peppermint with easy menus?


Below i will show all items you all asked for to research my issue to make it easier for others going forward.  Thanks for your help and i will be back after putting distro through the testing stage!
Title: Re: P 8 not showing grub or starting after install
Post by: awweeks1 on December 15, 2017, 07:02:07 am
http://paste.ubuntu.com/26188099/


sudo fdisk -l
[sudo] password for aa:
Disk /dev/sda: 1.8 TiB, 2000398934016 bytes, 3907029168 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0x6bc67a18

Device     Boot Start        End    Sectors  Size Id Type
/dev/sda1  *     2048 2422358015 2422355968  1.1T  7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT




Disk /dev/sdb: 111.8 GiB, 120034123776 bytes, 234441648 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0xd86aed9c

Device     Boot    Start      End  Sectors  Size Id Type
/dev/sdb1  *        2048  1953791  1951744  953M 83 Linux
/dev/sdb2        1955838 78190591 76234754 36.4G  5 Extended
/dev/sdb5        1955840 21485567 19529728  9.3G 83 Linux
/dev/sdb6       21487616 60547071 39059456 18.6G 83 Linux
/dev/sdb7       60549120 78190591 17641472  8.4G 82 Linux swap / Solaris


Disk /dev/sdc: 14.6 GiB, 15639101440 bytes, 30545120 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0x01296da9

Device     Boot Start      End  Sectors  Size Id Type
/dev/sdc1  *     2048 30545119 30543072 14.6G  c W95 FAT32 (LBA)
Title: Re: P 8 not showing grub or starting after install
Post by: awweeks1 on December 15, 2017, 07:04:41 am
sudo inxi -Fz
System:    Host: aa Kernel: 4.10.0-40-generic x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: N/A
           Distro: Peppermint Eight
Machine:   System: Gateway product: N/A v: 7B3G1P04
           Mobo: Gateway model: N/A
           Bios: American Megatrends v: 7B3G1P04 date: 02/18/2008
CPU:       Triple core AMD Phenom 8400 -Core (-MCP-) cache: 1536 KB
           clock speeds: max: 2100 MHz 1: 2100 MHz 2: 2100 MHz 3: 1050 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RS780 [Radeon HD 3200]
           Display Server: X.org 1.19.3 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           tty size: 86x26 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Audio:     Card-1 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RS780 HDMI Audio [Radeon (HD) 3000 Series]
           driver: snd_hda_intel
           Card-2 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
           driver: snd_hda_intel
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.10.0-40-generic
Network:   Card: Marvell 88E8071 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: sky2
           IF: enp3s0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 2136.1GB (54.6% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD2002FAEX size: 2000.4GB
           ID-2: /dev/sdb model: MDT_MD1200JS size: 120.0GB
           ID-3: USB /dev/sdc model: USB_Flash_Disk size: 15.6GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 9.1G used: 4.0G (47%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb5
           ID-2: /home size: 19G used: 148M (1%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb6
           ID-3: /boot size: 922M used: 66M (8%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb1
           ID-4: swap-1 size: 9.03GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sdb7
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   None detected - is lm-sensors installed and configured?
Info:      Processes: 193 Uptime: 51 min Memory: 1037.1/3823.7MB
           Client: Shell (sudo) inxi: 2.2.35
Title: Re: P 8 not showing grub or starting after install
Post by: PCNetSpec on December 15, 2017, 07:55:48 am
Peppermint uses the standard Ubuntu ubiquity installer, to suggest it somehow behaves differently to Ubuntu is at best incorrect and at worst misleading.

It is perfectly normal for "Something Else" to ask you to create partitions manually, in fact the entire purpose of "Something Else" is an advanced mode to remove the automation and allow you to manually choose your partitioning scheme, where to mount those partitions, and where to put the bootloader .. if you want an automated install don't choose "Something Else", the installer DID offer to "User the entire disk" which would have done everything for you.

Ubuntu/Lubuntu/Xubuntu/Kubuntu/Mint/Elementary/LXLE/Linux Lite/the list goes on, would have behaved exactly the same way because they too us the standard Ubiquity installer .. so this was either PEBKAC or a messed up partitioning scheme that Ubiquity couldn't figure out, it was NOT a Peppermint specific issue.
Title: Re: P 8 not showing grub or starting after install
Post by: murraymint on December 15, 2017, 08:15:16 am

yes i can erase the disk and start over but when you select this disk under something else tick....

This was why I advised you to use the simple option. You chose to do "something else" several times and made a dog's breakfast of it. There's a reason why there's a simple option right at the top.
Title: Re: P 8 not showing grub or starting after install
Post by: awweeks1 on December 16, 2017, 10:58:52 am
Peppermint uses the standard Ubuntu ubiquity installer, to suggest it somehow behaves differently to Ubuntu is at best incorrect and at worst misleading.

It is perfectly normal for "Something Else" to ask you to create partitions manually, in fact the entire purpose of "Something Else" is an advanced mode to remove the automation and allow you to manually choose your partitioning scheme, where to mount those partitions, and where to put the bootloader .. if you want an automated install don't choose "Something Else", the installer DID offer to "User the entire disk" which would have done everything for you.

Ubuntu/Lubuntu/Xubuntu/Kubuntu/Mint/Elementary/LXLE/Linux Lite/the list goes on, would have behaved exactly the same way because they too us the standard Ubiquity installer .. so this was either PEBKAC or a messed up partitioning scheme that Ubiquity couldn't figure out, it was NOT a Peppermint specific issue.

I tried your erase disk instructions instead of me running "something else" and after an hour of installation it hasn't loaded the system to the drive.  With "Something Else" option installation would have already been installed.

Does it really take this much longer by erasing option?  It seems like i am being hacked.  Installer will not let me copy the log of what it is doing but it tried putting me into 4 different ip s for downloading and after 2 hours i had to give up on it.

I do have it loaded now but wanted separate partitions for /home because now i lose my /home partition if i need to reinstall distro in the future.

Does anyone know that if you run Timeshift and you run out of memory, it will render your Peppermint OS useless?  This is what happened to me.

I will install and load everything i need to get ready on the OS and then tell you all if it is working better.   Please tell me how Peppermint is installed to an erased drive, partitions of each.  Also how do i get gparted onto this install and work with it.  Thanks!