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Title: Sometimes I Don't Know Why I Bother...
Post by: scifidude79 on October 11, 2017, 05:09:04 pm
I was looking at DistroWatch Weekly the other day, and they did a review of KaOS, an independent Linux distribution that has a rolling release structure, uses KDE Plasma 5 as its desktop and is exclusively 64-bit.  By focusing on one desktop and one architecture, you have to figure that helps them keep their repositories manageable.  Anyway, I've tried KaOS in the past, but it's been a while, so I decided to give it a go again as a fun side project on my day off.

So, I downloaded and installed it and was having a pretty good time. I started putting my software and stuff on there, including my main art programs, Blender for 3D, Inkscape for 2D and GIMP for image editing and other cool stuff.  One thing that's cool about Blender is that, for the past few versions, it's supported GPU rendering, allowing you to use the CUDA cores in your GPU to drastically speed up render times.  This makes sense, as GPUs are built for gaming and can render images in real time, much faster than a CPU can do it.  So, I was getting Blender all set up and I went to the thing in the user settings where I can activate that great feature, only to see it's not there.  :-\  I had my  Nvidia driver installed, I installed the Nvidia settings tool to make sure it's properly detecting my GTX950 and, sure enough, it's good to go.

So, I rebooted into Peppermint 8, downloaded the latest version of Blender from the website, and went about extracting it and setting it up.  Sure enough, there's my option for activating the CUDA rendering in GPU mode.  Both are running Blender 2.79, so that's not the issue.  Back to KaOS, played around with more settings, still no joy.  So, I don't know what's up.  Maybe Blender doesn't like the newer driver that KaOS has, maybe it's something with the way it's implemented in the system, I don't know.

So, I don't know why I bother trying other Linux distributions sometimes.  (and I don't even do it often)  Stuff that  just works in Peppermint requires some hair pulling to get working or just flat out doesn't work in other distributions.  ::)
Title: Re: Sometimes I Don't Know Why I Bother...
Post by: PCNetSpec on October 11, 2017, 05:12:43 pm
What, the Kidlington Amateur Operatic Society have released a Linux distro?, well I never....
Title: Re: Sometimes I Don't Know Why I Bother...
Post by: scifidude79 on October 11, 2017, 05:18:57 pm
Of course not, the "a" isn't capitalized.  :P
Title: Re: Sometimes I Don't Know Why I Bother...
Post by: PCNetSpec on October 11, 2017, 05:21:14 pm
My apologies...

What, the Kidlington amateur Operatic Society have released a Linux distro?, well I never....



Or is it an operating system by Ford ?
(now that's what I call brand diversification)
Title: Re: Sometimes I Don't Know Why I Bother...
Post by: scifidude79 on October 11, 2017, 05:26:28 pm
I don't know, dude.  Some people in the US started it, that's all I know.  I've tried it a few times now and every time I do, I find something that conflicts with how I do things in Linux.

Hell, all it takes is a couple drunk guys to start a Linux distribution.  Just ask Kendall and Shane.   :D
Title: Re: Sometimes I Don't Know Why I Bother...
Post by: PCNetSpec on October 11, 2017, 05:28:56 pm
LOL :))



Not sure how comfortable I'd be with a rollling OS that uses a word play of "chaos" as there name ???

Where Peppermint is spicy, long lasting, cool, and refreshing :)



From their website it **looks** like KaOS are rolling their own kernel (and other packages), so maybe they've not enabled something Ubuntu have ? .. just thinking out loud.
Title: Re: Sometimes I Don't Know Why I Bother...
Post by: scifidude79 on October 11, 2017, 05:36:31 pm
The only thing that even slightly attracts me to rolling distributions is not having to download new software versions from the web or wait for the next release version of the OS for newer software.  For example, the version of Blender in the Ubuntu 16.04 is almost two years old and they've added a lot of new features since then.  However, if it doesn't work right, then there's no reason for the rolling distribution and I can always download the latest Blender from their site.  Since it's open source, it's simultaneously released for a lot of operating systems, and the source code is available too.  8)

Not sure how comfortable I'd be with a rollling OS that uses a word play of "chaos" as there name ???

A little Khaos is never a bad thing.

(https://evilgenius180.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/khaos.jpg)
Title: Re: Sometimes I Don't Know Why I Bother...
Post by: PCNetSpec on October 11, 2017, 06:03:20 pm
I guess if you lie that in it's side it'd also be a rolling distribution :))
(look mom, I made a funny)
Title: Re: Sometimes I Don't Know Why I Bother...
Post by: grafiksinc on October 11, 2017, 07:53:51 pm
Have you guys heard of this distro. - Emmabuntüs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmabunt%C3%BCs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmabunt%C3%BCs)

I did not try this but I saw a Youtube review about it.
The ISO is 3.7  GB
They installed every possible piece of software imaginable  :-\

I agree anything can be a distro now days. 
Title: Re: Sometimes I Don't Know Why I Bother...
Post by: PCNetSpec on October 11, 2017, 08:26:44 pm
I've heard of it, but never tried it, and I guess there's little point now with the latest version being based on Ubuntu 14.04
Title: Re: Sometimes I Don't Know Why I Bother...
Post by: zebedeeboss on October 11, 2017, 08:29:01 pm
So, I don't know why I bother trying other Linux distributions sometimes.  (and I don't even do it often)  Stuff that  just works in Peppermint requires some hair pulling to get working or just flat out doesn't work in other distributions.  ::)

Hi,  I ALWAYS ask myself that question (incurable Distro Hopper  ::)) and ALWAYS come back to Peppermint.

Regards Zeb...
Title: Re: Sometimes I Don't Know Why I Bother...
Post by: PCNetSpec on October 11, 2017, 08:52:13 pm
Peppermint is "home".

If we ever get a Peppermint laptop off the ground I should make it so the "Home" key reinstalls Peppermint from a hidden partition :)
Title: Re: Sometimes I Don't Know Why I Bother...
Post by: grafiksinc on October 11, 2017, 09:43:48 pm
I have to say I am going on my one year anniversary with Peppermint it's been a really good breath of fresh air.... ;)
Every time I  start to get distro hoppertitus I think about the problem free year I have had, and it usually takes care of the symptoms. 8)
Title: Re: Sometimes I Don't Know Why I Bother...
Post by: PCNetSpec on October 12, 2017, 05:58:59 am
Wow, I can find no Google results for "distro hoppertitus" (no matter how you spell it) :)
Title: Re: Sometimes I Don't Know Why I Bother...
Post by: scifidude79 on October 12, 2017, 09:30:59 am
So, I don't know why I bother trying other Linux distributions sometimes.  (and I don't even do it often)  Stuff that  just works in Peppermint requires some hair pulling to get working or just flat out doesn't work in other distributions.  ::)

Hi,  I ALWAYS ask myself that question (incurable Distro Hopper  ::)) and ALWAYS come back to Peppermint.

Regards Zeb...

Well, I never left Peppermint.  It's still my everyday OS.  I have a small partition set aside in case I want to try other distributions.  Mostly, the partition just sits there unused.  Yesterday, I decided to try something, but Peppermint was still where it was supposed to be. :)
Title: Re: Sometimes I Don't Know Why I Bother...
Post by: VinDSL on October 12, 2017, 11:45:33 am
We should go submit that to the Urban Dictionary.

Been awhile:  https://goo.gl/omDjsk   ;D
Title: Re: Sometimes I Don't Know Why I Bother...
Post by: PCNetSpec on October 12, 2017, 01:35:32 pm
Done :)

Awaiting peer review.

Quote
Hoppertitus

A contagious [malady] that spreads between [Linux] users, causing them to continually hop from one [distro] to another in search of operating system perfection or purely for [geek] gratification.

example:

Dude, you have a serious case of distro hoppertitus.
Title: Re: Sometimes I Don't Know Why I Bother...
Post by: zebedeeboss on October 12, 2017, 01:49:11 pm
So, I don't know why I bother trying other Linux distributions sometimes.  (and I don't even do it often)  Stuff that  just works in Peppermint requires some hair pulling to get working or just flat out doesn't work in other distributions.  ::)

Hi,  I ALWAYS ask myself that question (incurable Distro Hopper  ::)) and ALWAYS come back to Peppermint.

Regards Zeb...

Well, I never left Peppermint.  It's still my everyday OS.  I have a small partition set aside in case I want to try other distributions.  Mostly, the partition just sits there unused.  Yesterday, I decided to try something, but Peppermint was still where it was supposed to be. :)

Oh don't get me wrong, Peppermint never leaves the PC or the Laptop.  I just install something alongside it.
Title: Re: Sometimes I Don't Know Why I Bother...
Post by: scifidude79 on October 12, 2017, 01:55:44 pm
Done :)

Awaiting peer review.

Quote
Hoppertitus

A contagious [malady] that spreads between [Linux] users, causing them to continually hop from one [distro] to another in search of operating system perfection or purely for [geek] gratification.

example:

Dude, you have a serious case of distro hoppertitus.

I used to have that.  Peppermint pretty much cured me.  ;)
Title: Re: Sometimes I Don't Know Why I Bother...
Post by: PCNetSpec on October 12, 2017, 02:12:31 pm
I can honestly say I've never suffered from it .. When I got into Linux I tried a few, settled on Ubuntu (because the others were awful at the time), then Peppermint when Ubuntu went to Unity.

Since then I've never felt the need to move. Of course i now 'test' out other distros for ideas but I've never felt the need to keep even one.

Guess I'm hoppertitus immune.
Title: Re: Sometimes I Don't Know Why I Bother...
Post by: acer on October 12, 2017, 02:58:21 pm
Ha, I was diagnosed with OCDH (obsessive compulsive distro hoppertitus) a few years back, went to the doc's and was prescribed Peppermint..Cured!
Curiosity gets the better of me via distrowatch..just looking doc, honest  :D
Title: Re: Sometimes I Don't Know Why I Bother...
Post by: grafiksinc on October 13, 2017, 12:15:58 am
Yeah I have to say I don't really suffer from it unless I get pushed away  :'(
I started with Ubuntu until they began changing the 'X' from the right to the left of the window panes.
Then I hung around Linux Mint for a long time, but they started to feel bloated with each release. And the hacking incident about  a year or so ago was my excuse to jump  :P

I almost moved in with Ubuntu-Mate--- but found Peppermint just in time.  8)
Title: Re: Sometimes I Don't Know Why I Bother...
Post by: scifidude79 on October 13, 2017, 04:42:10 pm
Well, I removed KaOS.  I'm sure it's a nice enough distro, if you don't mind limitations.  Since they have no 32-bit software at all, apps with 32-bit dependencies won't even work right.  That includes WINE, so obviously not a project aimed at Windows users.

Speaking of WINE, I had a pretty big mess in my Peppermint install between WINE and POL.  I could have cleaned it all out, but I decided a reinstall is faster, and it gets rid of my GOG games too.  I hav a dedicated gaming machine, so I don't need that stuff on my desktop.
Title: Re: Sometimes I Don't Know Why I Bother...
Post by: PCNetSpec on October 20, 2017, 08:42:14 am
"Hoppertitus" was finally published in the Urban Dictionary :))
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Hoppertitus
Title: Re: Sometimes I Don't Know Why I Bother...
Post by: emegra on October 20, 2017, 09:39:10 am
I used to suffer from Hopperitis in fact I had it quite bad for a while, but I quickly realised that one distro (with a few exceptions) was rarely better than the other and they could all do pretty much the same things, run the same software and look exactly as I want them to look, but what I found really sets them apart is community, community is every bit as important as what file manager, init system or DE it adopts and this community is by far the best I've ever been involved with by a mile.

I know if I have a problem I can come on here and I'll get the help I need quickly and no one will mock me or make a fool of me even if I've done something stupid or asked a stupid question

Hopperitis is a bit like nicotine addiction it never really goes away it's always there ie right now I have a craving for a KDE distro I've been fighting the urge for some time but I've managed to resist because I've tried KDE before and it's never worked for me but I can't help thinking the next time it just might

Peppermint KDE ?


Graeme

Title: Re: Sometimes I Don't Know Why I Bother...
Post by: pin on October 20, 2017, 09:39:36 am


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Title: Re: Sometimes I Don't Know Why I Bother...
Post by: zebedeeboss on October 20, 2017, 10:30:08 am
I like the challenge of getting them to match up to Peppermint in every area.

Not found one yet... a few have come close but no 1st Prize...

That belongs to Peppermint.

Regards Zeb...
Title: Re: Sometimes I Don't Know Why I Bother...
Post by: Matthew on October 29, 2017, 03:38:29 pm
If I have one regret it is that I chopped my drive up into multiple partitions to install various Linux systems.  I had some vacation time coming and the weather report was all kinds of lousy, stay indoors.  Since I was doing a fresh install of everything and kicking my corrupted Windows to the curb I decided to chop up and install a few different systems.  It seemed like a cool idea then. 8)

Fedora had some problems during some updates and I couldn't get it to boot up anymore.  Manjaro was fun for a while but it's rolling release updates ALWAYS give me a hair pulling kind of headache but never the same issues twice. >:(  I think there is a fourth system sitting there but it must not be very exciting because I can't recall the name without going to look. ;)  Peppermint has been my main system since 4 came out.  I don't even bother booting into any of those other OS so they just sit there taking up space on the drive.

My carry around machine is an 8 year old Acer netbook with a 32bit architecture and my quest for a small, fast system to run on it landed me on Peppermint.  I liked it so much I installed it on my desktop.  Every experiment with other distros gives me enough headache to cure me for a while.  I shop distros the way I shop online.  I look at all the neat stuff for my truck and decide I don't really want to spend money on something that works well enough without my messing around.