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Title: Google Has Quietly Dropped Ban on Personally Identifiable Web Tracking
Post by: GNULINUX on October 21, 2016, 09:17:28 am
Google Has Quietly Dropped Ban on Personally Identifiable Web Tracking (https://www.propublica.org/article/google-has-quietly-dropped-ban-on-personally-identifiable-web-tracking)
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The practical result of the change is that the DoubleClick ads that follow people around on the web may now be customized to them based on the keywords they used in their Gmail. It also means that Google could now, if it wished to, build a complete portrait of a user by name, based on everything they write in email, every website they visit and the searches they conduct.

Simple answer: uBlock Origin (https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock)  ;)
Title: Re: Google Has Quietly Dropped Ban on Personally Identifiable Web Tracking
Post by: zebedeeboss on October 21, 2016, 09:45:32 am
Google Has Quietly Dropped Ban on Personally Identifiable Web Tracking (https://www.propublica.org/article/google-has-quietly-dropped-ban-on-personally-identifiable-web-tracking)
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The practical result of the change is that the DoubleClick ads that follow people around on the web may now be customized to them based on the keywords they used in their Gmail. It also means that Google could now, if it wished to, build a complete portrait of a user by name, based on everything they write in email, every website they visit and the searches they conduct.

Simple answer: uBlock Origin (https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock)  ;)

or use an alternative search engine
Title: Re: Google Has Quietly Dropped Ban on Personally Identifiable Web Tracking
Post by: acer on October 21, 2016, 09:52:56 am
DuckDuck Go FTW!
Title: Re: Google Has Quietly Dropped Ban on Personally Identifiable Web Tracking
Post by: scifidude79 on October 21, 2016, 10:00:31 am
It's not really a surprise.  Predictive algorithms make people see ads related to products they like, increasing the odds that they will like the products they see advertised, thereby increasing Google's profits.  It became evident years ago that all Google cares about anymore is money.  I remember when they first started Gmail and you had to be invited to join.  That showed they actually cared about providing a decent e-mail service once.  Not anymore.

By the way, don't think uBlock Origin will stop them from building a profile on you.  All it will do is ensure that you can't see the ads.
Title: Re: Google Has Quietly Dropped Ban on Personally Identifiable Web Tracking
Post by: VinDSL on October 21, 2016, 05:20:09 pm
Predictive algorithms make people see ads related to products they like, increasing the odds that they will like the products they see advertised [...]

I responded, earlier this week, to an ad for a 24-roll pack of Charmin toilet tissue @ Staples for USD $7.99, with free shipping to the store.

They didn't make much money on that purchase.  Maybe they thought I'd buy a HP LaserJet printer, or something, while I was in the store.

Two questions:
Title: Re: Google Has Quietly Dropped Ban on Personally Identifiable Web Tracking
Post by: PCNetSpec on October 21, 2016, 05:40:50 pm
Cute fluffy ninja spy Koalas .. obviously!! ::)
Title: Re: Google Has Quietly Dropped Ban on Personally Identifiable Web Tracking
Post by: AndyInMokum on October 21, 2016, 11:13:00 pm
Predictive algorithms make people see ads related to products they like, increasing the odds that they will like the products they see advertised [...]

I responded, earlier this week, to an ad for a 24-roll pack of Charmin toilet tissue @ Staples for USD $7.99, with free shipping to the store.

They didn't make much money on that purchase.  Maybe they thought I'd buy a HP LaserJet printer, or something, while I was in the store.

Two questions:
  • Why do they sell toilet paper in an office supply store ?
  • How does a predictive algo know when you're about out of butt wipes ?
Maybe in an attempt to increase productivity, the Chinese are introducing the commode workstation :))!
Title: Re: Google Has Quietly Dropped Ban on Personally Identifiable Web Tracking
Post by: zebedeeboss on October 21, 2016, 11:40:36 pm
Predictive algorithms make people see ads related to products they like, increasing the odds that they will like the products they see advertised [...]

I responded, earlier this week, to an ad for a 24-roll pack of Charmin toilet tissue @ Staples for USD $7.99, with free shipping to the store.

They didn't make much money on that purchase.  Maybe they thought I'd buy a HP LaserJet printer, or something, while I was in the store.

Two questions:
  • Why do they sell toilet paper in an office supply store ?
  • How does a predictive algo know when you're about out of butt wipes ?
Maybe in an attempt to increase productivity, the Chinese are introducing the commode workstation :))!

they already have them it seems  :o
https://goo.gl/aU2JPC (https://goo.gl/aU2JPC)
Title: Re: Google Has Quietly Dropped Ban on Personally Identifiable Web Tracking
Post by: Slim.Fatz on October 22, 2016, 12:39:19 am
Predictive algorithms make people see ads related to products they like, increasing the odds that they will like the products they see advertised [...]

I responded, earlier this week, to an ad for a 24-roll pack of Charmin toilet tissue @ Staples for USD $7.99, with free shipping to the store.

They didn't make much money on that purchase.  Maybe they thought I'd buy a HP LaserJet printer, or something, while I was in the store.

Two questions:
  • Why do they sell toilet paper in an office supply store ?
  • How does a predictive algo know when you're about out of butt wipes ?

Answer to #1: For offices with Win10 installations.  >:( :-X :D

Answer to #2: Through analysis of your previous purchases and browsing history (e.g. did you purchase products to relieve, or research about, constipation or diarrhea? If not then you probably dump your loads at the statistically most likely intervals that have been medically listed as "normal defecation frequency". Otherwise adjust interval estimates up or down accordingly ...  :D )

Regards,

-- Dr. Feelgood  8)
Title: Re: Google Has Quietly Dropped Ban on Personally Identifiable Web Tracking
Post by: scifidude79 on October 22, 2016, 06:48:10 am
  • How does a predictive algo know when you're about out of butt wipes ?

The Shadow knows!  :P

Kidding, of course.  I think Slim summed it up.  (the part about previous history)  Recently, I've been looking at stuff on Walmart to see if we had certain things.  So, I'm looking at a Walmart ad on the top of this page right now.  ;)
Title: Re: Google Has Quietly Dropped Ban on Personally Identifiable Web Tracking
Post by: VinDSL on October 23, 2016, 09:04:52 am
So, I'm looking at a Walmart ad on the top of this page right now.  ;)

Heh !  I did a fresh install of Ubu 16.10, yesterday, in preparation for 17.04 -- no blockers, no nothing -- virgin OOTB install.

The first order of business; since it was on my mind, was to open Fx and search for a HP45 ink cartridge online.

After checking prices on a few sites, I decided to kick back and do a little mindless web surfing. 

OMG !!! Almost every ad on every site was for HP ink cartridges, and I'm not exaggerating.

Doing a 'ctrl-shift-delete > everything'  got rid of them, but still, it was an eye-opener !   :o
Title: Re: Google Has Quietly Dropped Ban on Personally Identifiable Web Tracking
Post by: Pikolo on October 23, 2016, 07:09:21 pm
By the way, don't think uBlock Origin will stop them from building a profile on you.  All it will do is ensure that you can't see the ads.
But Privacy Bager +  NoScript, blocking XSS, will.
On top of that, Firefox is also testing tracker blocking outside private mode, which should allow me to ditch Privacy Badger and make my Firefox a bit faster(on my ancient android phone, it takes 6s to load the first site....): https://testpilot.firefox.com/experiments/tracking-protection
Title: Re: Google Has Quietly Dropped Ban on Personally Identifiable Web Tracking
Post by: scifidude79 on October 23, 2016, 08:02:50 pm
So, I'm looking at a Walmart ad on the top of this page right now.  ;)

Heh !  I did a fresh install of Ubu 16.10, yesterday, in preparation for 17.04 -- no blockers, no nothing -- virgin OOTB install.

The first order of business; since it was on my mind, was to open Fx and search for a HP45 ink cartridge online.

After checking prices on a few sites, I decided to kick back and do a little mindless web surfing. 

OMG !!! Almost every ad on every site was for HP ink cartridges, and I'm not exaggerating.

Doing a 'ctrl-shift-delete > everything'  got rid of them, but still, it was an eye-opener !   :o

Opening a private browser window to search would take care of that, as it saves nothing.  Still, you shouldn't have to resort to such methods to get a little privacy.
Title: Re: Google Has Quietly Dropped Ban on Personally Identifiable Web Tracking
Post by: PCNetSpec on October 24, 2016, 07:39:27 am
Googles perspective seems to be that they're doing you a SERVICE .. my own take is if that if it's your interests they have at heart it'd at least be possible to opt-out (though really it should be opt-in).

To me a "service" is something you CHOOSE, it's foisted upon you it's not a service.

Googles motto - Do no evil

or maybe more accurately

Do no evil, just offer it as a service (and make sure we're the ones defining 'service')
Title: Re: Google Has Quietly Dropped Ban on Personally Identifiable Web Tracking
Post by: scifidude79 on October 24, 2016, 09:00:08 am
Right, service.  Helping you.  Just like reporting user statistics back to the company that makes the software "helps" it run better.  (and provides a handy source of income, should the software manufacturer decide to sell said information)  I guarantee you, no matter what they say, Google is doing this for money.  It's not inherently evil, but it goes back to that thing I said earlier about showing people ads for stuff they may find interesting, thereby increasing their odds of clicking on said ad and ordering stuff, increasing Google's profits from said ads.
Title: Re: Google Has Quietly Dropped Ban on Personally Identifiable Web Tracking
Post by: JimmyTango on October 24, 2016, 09:08:29 am
good riddance  :)  to google, of course.