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Title: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: zebedeeboss on September 20, 2016, 09:11:06 am
http://www.opera.com/blogs/desktop/ (http://www.opera.com/blogs/desktop/)

Download it from http://www.opera.com/computer (http://www.opera.com/computer)

Regards Zeb...
Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: PCNetSpec on September 20, 2016, 11:30:01 am
I've never been able on with Opera, though I haven't tried any of the more recent Blink versions.

I doubt if I'll ever feel at home in anything but Firefox after this many years.
Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: zebedeeboss on September 20, 2016, 12:28:59 pm
I've never been able on with Opera, though I haven't tried any of the more recent Blink versions.

I doubt if I'll ever feel at home in anything but Firefox after this many years.

I used it years ago when it first came out.   I even got myself an Opera ID so I could share photo's with my family etc.   Then I moved to Google Chrome (and the million variants out there) and various other "browsers" in search for the "perfect quick" browser and then Chromium when I got Linux and now Firefox....   I am happy with Firefox now but like to test things so when friends and family ask...  I have half an idea what they are asking about.

On Firefox I use the Browsec FREE VPN addon for when the British Government decide I cannot visit specific websites.

Regards Zeb...   
Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: GNULINUX on September 20, 2016, 12:33:29 pm
Did a quick test on Peppermint 7  :)

Installs without a problem from the .deb which I downloaded from their site.
The VPN feature is a real (browser) VPN and it doesn't leak anything. No IP, DNS or WebRTC leaks! Speeds with the VPN on were as fast as my real connection is.
The built-in ad-blocker doesn't block as many ads as uBlock Origin but you can add (local) lists to it...
It loads pages as fast/slow as any other browser I use (Chrome/Chromium/Firefox/Iron).

My initial thoughts:

Opera is "based" on Chromium (Blink Rendering Engine) but is more good looking and comes with a few extras... Seems pretty decent but their ad-blocker was slightly disappointing.
I personally prefer a more "bare bone" browser so I can add the features that I want...  ;)



EDIT about the VPN feature:  See this post! (https://forum.peppermintos.com/index.php/topic,4343.msg43336.html#msg43336)  ;)
Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: zebedeeboss on September 20, 2016, 12:58:54 pm
ok just installed it as well and initial impression..... Damn but it's quick but does not follow standard forum posting like Firefox does.

I cannot highlight text and simply ctrl+b for bold  or underline ctrl+u (infact ctrl+u brings up a "view source" tab)

So will probably suffer the same silly sizing issue Chrome/Chromium and other browsers do

For that reason alone I won't use it - cos I can't be arsed bothered running two browsers

Regards Zeb...

Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: perknh on September 20, 2016, 02:01:35 pm
Opera is "based" on Chromium (Blink Rendering Engine) but is more good looking and comes with a few extras... Seems pretty decent but their ad-blocker was slightly disappointing.
I personally prefer a more "bare bone" browser so I can add the features that I want...  ;)

I believe Yandex wins when it comes to bare bones, but you can add from Chrome and Opera's stores if you'd like (although, from what I can tell, not themes).

(https://i.imgur.com/cPByWj0.png)

And, it's based on Blink, Chromium, Opera Turbo...etc., but, as we can see, it has some Opera features in it!  ;)

(https://i.imgur.com/n9oRhoi.png)

Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: PCNetSpec on September 20, 2016, 02:09:16 pm
ok just installed it as well and initial impression..... Damn but it's quick but does not follow standard forum posting like Firefox does.

I cannot highlight text and simply ctrl+b for bold  or underline ctrl+u (infact ctrl+u brings up a "view source" tab)

So will probably suffer the same silly sizing issue Chrome/Chromium and other browsers do

For that reason alone I won't use it - cos I can't be arsed bothered running two browsers

Regards Zeb...

THIS .. Egg Zactly this

Chrome (and other Blink browsers) just behaves incorrectly (and not just on this forum) and it drives me CRAZY >:(
Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: acer on September 20, 2016, 02:11:25 pm
I doubt if I'll ever feel at home in anything but Firefox after this many years.

Ditto, from olde Phoenix/Firebird days back in the late 90's early 2000's IIRC

I have tried it for the last hour or so and am beginning to (dare I say it), quite like it!!  ???

My Findings so far..

1. Settings is a must before use, tick the 'show advanced settings' box at the foot of the Privacy & Security Tab to reveal even more settings than the default and tweak to your hearts content.

2. Free VPN which leaves 3 ports open for the VPN operation. (BUT Mine are all closed  ;))

3. Bookmarking is a pain but, if you drag your bookmark to the Speed Dial section you end up with an array of all your bookmarks on one page (Handy indeed as a start page)

Still to look up an equivelant of the about:config in firefox for Opera to tweak and adjust more.

So far, so good.(as a secondary Browser)

 :)
Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: PCNetSpec on September 20, 2016, 02:23:18 pm
Still to look up an equivelant of the about:config in firefox for Opera to tweak and adjust more.

Have you tried Chrome's equivalent
chrome:flags
or more correctly
chrome://flags
Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: perknh on September 20, 2016, 02:26:30 pm
@acer

Might this help you, acer?

http://www.ghacks.net/2013/11/04/opera-19-developer-update-enable-operas-power-user-mode/ (http://www.ghacks.net/2013/11/04/opera-19-developer-update-enable-operas-power-user-mode/)

If it does, I do suggest enabling the Power User feature permanently.  This will save you a lot of grief over time.  ;)

@PCNetSpec

I think that's where acer wants to go.
Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: acer on September 20, 2016, 02:52:31 pm
Still to look up an equivelant of the about:config in firefox for Opera to tweak and adjust more.

Have you tried Chrome's equivalent
chrome:flags
or more correctly
chrome://flags

Yeh, tried that and tbh, there isn't much more in there to tweak.
Although switching OFF the 3 phase opera adblocker and using extensions Noscript and Disconnect, it seems snappier (read browser quicker)?!

After reading an article about Adblock somewhere, I kind of mistrust bundled adblockers and prefer to use my hybrid collection (Why Isn't there an EVIL emoticon when you need one)

@acer

Might this help you, acer?

http://www.ghacks.net/2013/11/04/opera-19-developer-update-enable-operas-power-user-mode/ (http://www.ghacks.net/2013/11/04/opera-19-developer-update-enable-operas-power-user-mode/)

If it does, I do suggest enabling the Power User feature permanently.  This will save you a lot of grief over time.  ;)

@PCNetSpec

I think that's where acer wants to go.

Yup, it did indeed but not that many more adjustments could be made tbh.
Power feature enabled permanently.   ;)

Prefer about:config, can do LOADS more with Firefox  :D

will persivere though..

Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: acer on September 20, 2016, 03:18:47 pm
Got to laugh at the comments on my daily website..

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/09/20/opera_desktop_browser_vpn/ (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/09/20/opera_desktop_browser_vpn/)

 :D
Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: acer on September 20, 2016, 03:55:47 pm
Done a Cipher Security Check to compare FF v Opera browsers

Firefox:
(http://i.imgur.com/utpH09i.png)

Opera:
(http://i.imgur.com/vvJik6X.png)

Well opera has certainly improved security over the last few years..yup, this could be a keeper as a secondary browser for me.
Although it does render some sites oddly and Images are not so sharp either.
Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: perknh on September 20, 2016, 04:11:08 pm
Yup, it did indeed but not that many more adjustments could be made tbh.
Power feature enabled permanently.   ;)

I have a feeling that you're an old hand at this, acer.  I've noticed for me, however, that when I used to go into Opera's Power User settings, there was often a b or an a in a little box above.  If I removed those letters, sometimes I'd see a list of more pages of settings which I could then modify.  Maybe, however, you've already discovered this already by yourself.

But, yeah, there are LOADS more of different things that can be modified in Firefox.  ;)
Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: GNULINUX on September 20, 2016, 04:31:51 pm
The VPN feature is a real (browser) VPN and it doesn't leak anything. No IP, DNS or WebRTC leaks!

Have to correct myself after more testing...  ;)

The VPN feature is a proxy but it doesn't leak anything. No IP, DNS or WebRTC leaks! It blocks unsupported UDP traffic.
Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: acer on September 22, 2016, 08:50:32 am
Have ditched this due to a bug I've encountered.
[Resizing of browser whilst on a webpage, does not reduce in proportion with browser size leaving parts of the webpage missing and NO scrollbar pops up!]  ???
Might try again once fixed.
Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: berliner58 on October 03, 2016, 06:04:40 pm
Inspired by the postings, I installed Opera.
It is fast and reminds me of google chrome.
An addon for opera enables to download all extensions from chrome store and then they can be installed in Opera with a click.

This way the Opera behaves quite similar to my firefox.
I use LastPass and Xmarks, so my testing of many distros is easy and fast with each browser that has LastPass and Xmarks as addons.

I use VPN's and the free VPN of Opera looked promising, but after a few hours of testing I have to say that it is not what I expected.
The VPN is very unstable, it goes on and off and thus the websites don't load.

If Opera manages to get that VPN stable, I might be tempted to make it my standard browser.
Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: perknh on October 03, 2016, 06:40:09 pm
Hi berliner58,

Opera browser can be a lot of fun.  In case you're brand new to Opera, and you haven't done so already, be sure to enable its Power User mode (http://www.ghacks.net/2013/11/04/opera-19-developer-update-enable-operas-power-user-mode/).  Then you'll have even more fun and flexibility with what you can do with Opera browser.

You're right, Opera is a lot like Google Chrome, and like Google Chrome, Opera browser is based off of open source Chromium browser.  All of these browsers use Blink (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blink_(web_engine)) rendering engine.  Blink gives these browsers a nice little boost of speed!  ;)

perknh
Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: PCNetSpec on October 04, 2016, 07:53:38 am
Blink gives these browsers a nice little boost of speed!

Yup it sure does, but sh*t off a chrome plated shovel is still sh*t :))

FF FTW ;)
Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: perknh on October 04, 2016, 10:37:13 am
Blink gives these browsers a nice little boost of speed!

Yup it sure does, but sh*t off a chrome plated shovel is still sh*t :))

FF FTW ;)

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11876059/roflmao.gif)

Didn't see that one coming!

Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: berliner58 on October 07, 2016, 08:30:32 am
Opera has an important disadvantage compared to Firefox.
There is no  "open bookmark in new tab" addon.

This missing feature might make me return to Firefox.  >:(
Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: perknh on October 07, 2016, 11:52:16 am
I hear you, all it takes to make you change course sometimes is one simple little thing.  Firefox is always a safe bet.  ;)
Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: PCNetSpec on October 07, 2016, 03:13:54 pm
Or possibly 17,522 little things :)
(number of FF addons)
Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: berliner58 on October 09, 2016, 09:06:26 am
I hear you, all it takes to make you change course sometimes is one simple little thing.  Firefox is always a safe bet.  ;)

It depends, perknh, what makes me change my course.

Opera is already history for me.   ;D

Slimjet is faster than Opera and faster than Firefox....  and ... let's me open a bookmark in a new tab with left-mouse-click.  Found it yesterday and today made it my default browser.
http://www.slimjet.com/?lang=en (http://www.slimjet.com/?lang=en)

You might call this consistency, if you don't mind.  ;)
Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: zebedeeboss on October 09, 2016, 09:34:50 am
I hear you, all it takes to make you change course sometimes is one simple little thing.  Firefox is always a safe bet.  ;)

It depends, perknh, what makes me change my course.

Opera is already history for me.   ;D

Slimjet is faster than Opera and faster than Firefox....  and ... let's me open a bookmark in a new tab with left-mouse-click.  Found it yesterday and today made it my default browser.
http://www.slimjet.com/?lang=en (http://www.slimjet.com/?lang=en)

You might call this consistency, if you don't mind.  ;)

one tip - keep an eye on slimjet when posting to the forums... it does some wierd things to font sizes, especially when cut n paste from webistes and when tryin gto format stuff. Other than that it's a great fast browser.  But I spend a lot of time in here and other forums and I need Firefox, which behaves correctly.

Regards Zeb...
Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: PCNetSpec on October 09, 2016, 11:10:07 am
Tell me about it .. it's the "triple-click a command on this forum to highlight it, then copy it, then paste it into the terminal .. and it runs without you hitting enter" that does my head in with chromium based browsers ::)

Why the heck to they add a carriage return :-\



Don't believe me .. in chromium, triple-click this command to highlight it (do not use Code: Select or manually highlight it):
Code: [Select]
pluma
now right-click on the highlighted text and select "Copy"

Now open a terminal and right-click > Paste (or Ctrl+Shift+V) .. pluma will open without you having to hit enter .. this should NOT happen ::)
(chromium based browsers appear to be adding a space and a carriage return)

Just ONE of the many things that drive me nutz about chromium based browsers.
Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: PCNetSpec on October 09, 2016, 11:36:18 am
Sure, you could say "it's the forum software that's doing this" and you'd be correct .. it's actually being caused by a 'fix' applied to the SMF code to fix another formatting issue in chromium based browsers.
But that's not really a valid argument now is it ? .. why do software authors (and/or users) need to be working around chromium formatting issues in the first place .. no other browsers have this problem, the issue was introduced by Google obviously deciding everyone else should do things THEIR way >:(
Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: berliner58 on October 09, 2016, 03:05:40 pm
Tell me about it .. it's the "triple-click a command on this forum to highlight it, then copy it, then paste it into the terminal .. and it runs without you hitting enter" that does my head in with chromium based browsers ::)

Why the heck to they add a carriage return :-\



Don't believe me .. in chromium, triple-click this command to highlight it (do not use Code: Select or manually highlight it):
Code: [Select]
pluma
now right-click on the highlighted text and select "Copy"

Now open a terminal and right-click > Paste (or Ctrl+Shift+V) .. pluma will open without you having to hit enter .. this should NOT happen ::)
(chromium based browsers appear to be adding a space and a carriage return)

Just ONE of the many things that drive me nutz about chromium based browsers.

I know that you have many points against chromium browsers, and since I guess that slimjet is based on blink-engine ( I have no idea what that is) and since it is possible to download addons from google chrome webstore for slimjet ( I did that because I use LastPass and Xmarks ),
I just did that test with the copy and paste of  "pluma" you suggested.

The result is - and I am sorry to tell it - that nothing happens when I right-click in the terminal and select "paste".
I mean:  the word "pluma" is inserted into the terminal, that is all there is, but pluma does not start.

So I would say that the carriage return is not added in slimjet.
I cannot test this in Opera nor in google chrome browsers because I don't have them installed anymore.

I like Firefox, no doubt about that. It is my second browser now. Slimjet and FF are in the application launcher part of the panel.
Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: PCNetSpec on October 09, 2016, 03:20:43 pm
did you triple-click the word "pluma" in the text box to highlight it prior to copying ?

I could be wrong, but I seriously doubt that this doesn't also affect slimjet.

Actually I gave a bad example .. double-clicking just selects the word. triple-clicking selects the entire line .. so TRIPLE-CLICK this:
Code: [Select]
pluma /etc/lsb-release
to select the entire line.
Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: berliner58 on October 09, 2016, 04:29:48 pm
Sorry,
I never ever clicked 3 times on something in my life .  8)

I thought you meant:
First click = left click on "pluma" to get the cursor there.
Second click = hover over the word from beginnung to end to mark it.
Third click = right click to select "copy"

I am not joking. This I considered to be the  triple click you mentioned.

Now I dared to really position the cursor in the word "pluma" and the other example you suggested and
left-click  3 times in a short sequence and yes:  it did mark the word.

Then I pasted it into the terminal and yes, PCNetSpec:  it straightly opened pluma  / the file you suggested.

So, the test has shown that you are correct about  triple-click.  :-X

My apologies for messing up the first test.

Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: PCNetSpec on October 09, 2016, 05:42:46 pm
I never ever clicked 3 times on something in my life .  8)

On a laptop I do this all the time (triple touchpad tap), it's the fastest way to highlight an entire line.

And I also quite often copy commands, then paste them into the terminal planning on then editing the command 'in situ' prior to running it .. you can imaging how much trouble you could get into with say a 'dd' or 'rm' command under these circumstances when using a chromium based browser :o
Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: perknh on October 09, 2016, 08:18:54 pm
Well, PCNetSpec, you never stop surprising me.  I've been using Chrome/Chromium/Opera for years, and even Yandex off and on, but not until today did I learn about a triple-click highlighting method within Chromium-based browsers.  Never knew a thing about it.

Great tip --thank you!  :)
Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: PCNetSpec on October 09, 2016, 08:22:52 pm
NOT a great idea with commands in chromium based browsers perkhn if you're planning on copy/pasting into the terminal .. in fact downright dangerous ;)
(it works as it should in FF, but for some reason chromium/chrome based browsers add a space and carriage return)

THIS right here is my #1 gripe about chromium/chrome .. there are plenty of others (screwy fonts/odd formatting/memory leaks every other release, to name a few), but this one drives me up the wall with a vengeance because it's dangerous >:(
(maybe now you'll understand why I'm so harsh on chromium/chrome)

BTW, triple clicking to select an entire line isn't just a browser thing .. it's a system wide default behaviour, so it also works in say pluma/libreoffice/nemo location bar/icon names during editing/etc. .. in fact 'pretty much' anywhere you can insert a cursor into text.
(and not an added space and carriage return anywhere in sight with anything but chromium based browsers, including chrome)

Double-click = Select the word the cursor is hovering over.
Triple-click = Select the entire line the cursor is hovering over.
Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: murraymint on October 15, 2017, 08:15:34 pm
Is there any way to make Opera obey the hosts file blocking while also using its VPN/proxy feature? I'm thinking probably not but you never know...
Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: VinDSL on December 16, 2017, 12:15:17 pm
Well, it was fun while it lasted  ;D


Changes to Opera’s VPN service
by Martin Brinkmann on December 10, 2017 (https://goo.gl/3NrSsG)


The free VPN service has become horribly slow, in my neck of the woods. When it does connect, it rolls at 56-gay speeds - 144p on YouTube, etc.

I first noticed the change on the Opera trunk release, last week - figured they were just toying with the idea. This week, it hit stable.  ::)

Unless they change things up, I'll need to move to a real VPN service - or start using Tor for secure connections.

Quote
Opera Software decided to create its own service from scratch and integrate it into the Opera browser.

We'll see how clever the Chicoms are. Maybe it'll become a real VPN service, not just a proxy, but I'm not holding my breath ...
Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: VinDSL on December 18, 2017, 12:09:11 pm
Might be getting some action on the Opera VPN slowness/country blockage probs.

I was reading their forums, last night, and everyone is bitching about the VPN changes.

Just downloaded an updated trunk release. We'll see if there's any improvement.
Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: PCNetSpec on December 18, 2017, 12:59:24 pm
Let us know please VinDSL.
Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: perknh on December 18, 2017, 01:19:42 pm
I read there are all sorts of problems with Opera's VPN.

Opera browser’s VPN is just a proxy, here’s how it works

By Mirko Zorz

https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2016/04/22/opera-browser-vpn-proxy/
Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: VinDSL on December 18, 2017, 02:31:16 pm
Yeah, it's always been a proxy, not a true VPN, but that's good enough for me. And, the SurfEasy proxy/VPN service was quick as a whip.

Since they moved the service to their own Opera servers, it's crawling at 45k-115k, e.g. useless for streaming videos, and most other things users do on the web.

To make the situation worse, the connections to their servers motorboat up n' down, and causes sites to throw codes while trying to load even large graphics. So, one gets the text but missing pictures, and intermittent connection failure notifications on some sites.

We'll see what happens. They've got their tit in the wringing over this. Something's gotta give ... 8)
Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: PCNetSpec on December 18, 2017, 02:32:45 pm
I think they'd be in trouble if they provided a proper tunnelled VPN
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/11/china-moves-to-block-internet-vpns-from-2018
and in some areas of China individuals have been imprisoned for using VPN's
https://www.travelchinacheaper.com/is-it-legal-to-use-a-vpn-in-china

So I'm not sure their Govt would approve of Opera doing a 'proper' VPN :)
Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: VinDSL on December 18, 2017, 02:49:50 pm
Proxies are good enough. It's not like we're trying to give away state secrets.

Back in the day, I'd bounce off 2-3 open proxies, like Arizona =>  1) Russia 2) Pakistan 3) Brazil => destination

Of course, that was then, and this is now. The NSA is injecting code into the stream as traffic passes through their routers, so it's easier for them to sort fly shiz out of pepper grounds these days. That's how they know (for instance) if leaked data has gone over the web, or been copied locally onto USB sticks, or whatevs.

Anyway, I'll watch n' wait.
Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: PCNetSpec on December 18, 2017, 03:00:43 pm
I agree, a proxy is fine for what I use it for in Opera.

Anything I'd need a proper VPN tunnel to conceal I probably wouldn't trust a free service piggybacking on a Chinese browser with.

That said, they **should** call it what it is .. though they're FAR from the first to misleadingly call a proxy service a VPN.
Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: perknh on December 18, 2017, 06:33:00 pm
These are all good points. 

Now even though a Chinese consortium bought this browser (transaction completed November 2016 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otello_Corporation)), the browser still seems to be subject to Norwegian data-security laws (https://www.opera.com/privacy) as a Norwegian company.  This is part of a very recent statement from Opera Software AS;

Spoiler (click here to view / hide)
Quote
Terms of Service
Last updated: December 5, 2017

Opera Software AS and its affiliates offer a number of different services through their respective websites and software. The terms of this document govern your use of those services. Please read this document carefully.

1. This is a contract.

a. These Terms of Service (“Terms”), along with Opera’s Privacy Statement, form a legally-binding contract between you and Opera Software AS a Norwegian company whose principal place of business is Gjerdrumsvei 19, 0484, Oslo, Norway, as well as its affiliates (“Opera” and “we,” “us” and “our”). By using the Services (as defined below), you are agreeing to be legally bound by these Terms. If you don’t agree with these Terms, you must discontinue using the Services.
[close]
Now, is my online life, as an American citizen, more private using Opera or is it more private using Chrome?  I FEEL, because of Norwegian law and power user settings found only within Opera, that my online life is more private using Opera.

Funny, but when I want privacy, I feel more comfortable using Opera (with a few added privacy-focused extensions), and, when I want security, I feel more secure using either Chromium or Chrome (with the same privacy-focused extensions too).  I say this because Opera is, in some ways, piggybacking off of Chromium's open source project, and Chromium or Chrome are, at least in theory, slightly more"secure" browsers than Opera because security updates and patches would most likely begin within Chromium first.
Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: PCNetSpec on December 19, 2017, 07:05:15 am
I'd feel safer in Firefox :)
(even with their recent idiotic faux pas)

And 57 is kick *ss fast :)
Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: VinDSL on December 19, 2017, 12:12:48 pm
Speaking of Fx, I don't know if you ran across this recent article (https://goo.gl/F7xG1k), but ...

Microsoft's Edge browser is in serious trouble - winders users prefer Fx to IE and MS Edge ...  :)

Quote
Microsoft's Edge browser is less popular with Windows 10 users than earlier thought, if revised data from a U.S. analytics vendor can be believed. According to Net Applications of Aliso Viejo, Calif., Edge has been designated the primary browser by fewer than one in six Windows 10 users for more than a year and a half. That's a significant downgrading of Edge's user share statistics from the browser's portrayal before this month...

By comparing Edge's old and new shares, it was evident that as much as half of the earlier Edge traffic had been faked by bots. The portion of Edge's share credited to bots fluctuated month to month, but fell below 30% in only 4 of the 19 months for which Net Applications provided data... Microsoft's legacy browser, Internet Explorer (IE) also was revealed as a Potemkin village. Under the old data regime, which included bots, IE's user share was overblown, at times more than double the no-bots reality. Take May 2016 as an example. With bots, Net Applications pegged IE at 33.7%; without bots, IE's user share dwindled to just 14.9%. Together, IE and Edge - in other words, Microsoft's browsers - accounted for only 16.3% of the global user share last month using Net Applications' new calculations... In fact, the combined IE and Edge now face a once unthinkable fate: falling beneath Mozilla's Firefox.

Bottom Line: Once the bots are removed from the equation, StatCounter's stats on browser usage shows more people have already been using Firefox on winders 10 than both of Microsoft's browsers combined -- in 12 out of the last 13 months.
Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: PCNetSpec on December 19, 2017, 02:49:08 pm
Love my Fiery Fox :)
(more so since 57)
Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: rickc on December 21, 2017, 10:03:05 am
Trying it and seems good. The import bookmarks feature is done very well. I've actually been using Ubuntu 17.10 for the last few months and firefox is not working properly with message boards. 

Wish TOR had some sort of VPN.   I think VPN's and linux are too complex for the average user - one of the reasons I dual boot.   A shame, as I know linux is more secure for the dark web

Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: murraymint on May 19, 2019, 09:30:40 am
The Opera VPN seems to be knackered now. Has anybody been able to keep using it?
Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: VinDSL on May 19, 2019, 01:42:27 pm
The Opera VPN seems to be knackered now. Has anybody been able to keep using it?

Yeah, they're always fiddling with it. Sometimes, it's unusable for 2-3 days at a time.

I was using it yesterday, when D/Ling the final, final, final release, and the connection would get refused at the 25% completion mark. I had to disable their VPN/proxy, then enable it again, after the D/Ls were done.

Put another way, it's always been touch n' go, ever since the new owners started using their own servers.

You get what you pay for, you know?  :)
Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: murraymint on May 19, 2019, 01:44:03 pm
'Tis true. I started using it for my go-to torrent site but since it broke I found my ISP isn't blocking that any more - or maybe it was my previous ISP that did.
Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: murraymint on May 20, 2019, 10:09:53 am
I installed Opera Beta and now the VPN is working. It seems to have been abandoned in "stable".
Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: PCNetSpec on May 20, 2019, 07:51:12 pm
VPN is working in opera-stable for me :-\
(in fact it never stopped .. though I'm not on it daily, so maybe I missed something)
Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: VinDSL on May 20, 2019, 09:38:43 pm
Sometimes a pic is worth 1000 words.

Notice a dip yesterday (Sunday)? I was on this rig for 16 hours...


(http://vindsl.com/images/Free_Opera_VPN.png)
Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: murraymint on May 21, 2019, 07:17:26 am
VPN is working in opera-stable for me :-\
(in fact it never stopped .. though I'm not on it daily, so maybe I missed something)

I can't explain it either but it hadn't been working for weeks for me. Now that I've got the beta version it loads sites faster than it ever did before.
Title: Re: Opera Browser with Free VPN
Post by: VinDSL on June 01, 2019, 09:13:37 am
VPN is working in opera-stable for me :-\
(in fact it never stopped .. though I'm not on it daily, so maybe I missed something)

I can't explain it either but it hadn't been working for weeks for me. Now that I've got the beta version it loads sites faster than it ever did before.

I've been watching the Opera VPN feature more closely, trying to pattern when it fails.

I leave multiple windows open, in Opera stable, for days (or weeks) at a time. When the VPN fails, it fails in all open Opera stable windows - not just one - e.g. it's a glitch. The only way to get the VPN to work is to close ALL open windows, and restart Opera stable. BOOM BABY! It's all good until the next time.

Opera beta seems to fail when an update becomes available, and the fix is to upgrade it. Put another way, when a new update becomes available, VPN ceases to work in the old ver.

Continuing...