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Title: What's your favorite internet browser?
Post by: Kyle on July 21, 2016, 09:24:19 pm
Mine is Firefox  :) but I also like Seamonkey for a lightweight browser that has no compromises.
Title: Re: What's your favorite internet browser?
Post by: tppthpthp on July 21, 2016, 10:38:42 pm
Mine is Firefox  :)

Ditto
Title: Re: What's your favorite internet browser?
Post by: scifidude79 on July 21, 2016, 10:58:57 pm
Firefox.  I've been using it since version 1. :)
Title: Re: What's your favorite internet browser?
Post by: AndyInMokum on July 22, 2016, 01:13:48 am
Google Chrome just because I've become used to it and it accommodates Netflix natively.  I also prefer it for making SSBs.  I keep Firefox as my backup browser  ;). 
Title: Re: What's your favorite internet browser?
Post by: VinDSL on July 22, 2016, 02:17:09 am
iceweasel   :D

(http://vindsl.com/images/Screenshot_2016-07-21_23:13:15.png)
Title: Re: What's your favorite internet browser?
Post by: GNULINUX on July 22, 2016, 06:41:15 am
For surfing, I don't have a real favorite! I use Google Chrome, Chromium and Firefox and some of their family members...

For SSB's/ICE: Definitely Firefox because it uses a different profile for each instance!  ;)
Title: Re: What's your favorite internet browser?
Post by: zebedeeboss on July 22, 2016, 07:02:11 am
Mine is Firefox  :)

Ditto

Ditto

Regards Zeb...
Title: Re: What's your favorite internet browser?
Post by: PCNetSpec on July 22, 2016, 07:45:56 am
Firefox for MANY reasons...

Not least of which are:-

It displays stuff and behaves more consistently than Chrome/Chromium or any of the browsers based on it .. take this forum for example, if you copy a command from here and paste it directly into a terminal you'll find Chrome/Chromium adds a carriage return which causes the command to immediately run when pasted into the terminal, which I may not want to do, I might want to edit the command before running it.
(this is just ONE example .. there are MANY)

Like scifidude79 I've used it since it was released

and it has FAR more plugins/themes/extensions available

Chrome releases can be massively unstable sometimes .. I've never suffered this with Firefox

Google make some very strange political decisions and impose them on you, such as the dropping of 32bit and flash/java debacles.

Chrome seems to use more memory, not a problem in and of itself, but a lot of their releases have historically been prone to memory leaks, often even with Googles own API's such as those used for the graphs in Google Analytics, etc.
(and if you're not sure what a memory leak is - it's where the app continues to progressively use more RAM until you have non left, due to things like bad garbage collection where it's not unloading redundant data from memory properly)
Title: Re: What's your favorite internet browser?
Post by: Kyle on July 22, 2016, 07:58:46 am
Firefox for MANY reasons...

Not least of which are:-

It displays stuff and behaves more consistently than Chrome/Chromium or any of the browsers based on it .. take this forum for example, if you copy a command from here and paste it directly into a terminal you'll find Chrome/Chromium adds a carriage return which causes the command to immediately run when pasted into the terminal, which I may not want to do, I might want to edit the command before running it.
(this is just ONE example .. there are MANY)

Like scifidude79 I've used it since it was released

and it has FAR more plugins/themes/extensions available

Chrome releases can be massively unstable sometimes .. I've never suffered this with Firefox

Google make some very strange political decisions and impose them on you

Chrome seems to use more memory, not a problem in and of itself, but a lot of their releases have historically been prone to memory leaks, often even with Googles own tools such as Analytics, etc.
(and if you're not sure what a memory leak is - it's where the app continues to progressively use more RAM until you have non left, due to things like bad garbage collection where it's not unloading unused data from memory properly)

Very good reasons! I personally have never used Chrome or Chromium as a day-to-day browser. I've been using Firefox since 2008 but I also use Seamonkey as it is an excellent choice for my netbook. One thing I love about Firefox/Seamonkey (or other derivatives of Firefox) is the large add-on selection and a significant amount of the add-ons are open-source, too! Not to mention Mozilla has great ideology and they do their best to protect their users privacy.
Title: Re: What's your favorite internet browser?
Post by: tppthpthp on July 22, 2016, 08:42:06 am
Firefox for MANY reasons...

Not least of which are:-

It displays stuff and behaves more consistently than Chrome/Chromium or any of the browsers based on it .. take this forum for example, if you copy a command from here and paste it directly into a terminal you'll find Chrome/Chromium adds a carriage return which causes the command to immediately run when pasted into the terminal, which I may not want to do, I might want to edit the command before running it.
(this is just ONE example .. there are MANY)

Like scifidude79 I've used it since it was released

and it has FAR more plugins/themes/extensions available

Chrome releases can be massively unstable sometimes .. I've never suffered this with Firefox

Google make some very strange political decisions and impose them on you

Chrome seems to use more memory, not a problem in and of itself, but a lot of their releases have historically been prone to memory leaks, often even with Googles own tools such as Analytics, etc.
(and if you're not sure what a memory leak is - it's where the app continues to progressively use more RAM until you have non left, due to things like bad garbage collection where it's not unloading unused data from memory properly)

Very good reasons! I personally have never used Chrome or Chromium as a day-to-day browser. I've been using Firefox since 2008 but I also use Seamonkey as it is an excellent choice for my netbook. One thing I love about Firefox/Seamonkey (or other derivatives of Firefox) is the large add-on selection and a significant amount of the add-ons are open-source, too! Not to mention Mozilla has great ideology and they do their best to protect their users privacy.

wow, you guys have really good reasons..........
I just started using firefox because I despised using Internet Explorer on my work machine (winders) and just carried over to my linux experience.
Now my work has us using either IE8 or IE11 or Chrome depending on the applications that we use.   ???
Title: Re: What's your favorite internet browser?
Post by: PCNetSpec on July 22, 2016, 09:06:29 am
IE8 .. good god man, I guess security isn't a major concern then :o
Title: Re: What's your favorite internet browser?
Post by: Kyle on July 22, 2016, 09:27:43 am
Quote
wow, you guys have really good reasons..........
I just started using firefox because I despised using Internet Explorer on my work machine (winders) and just carried over to my linux experience.
Now my work has us using either IE8 or IE11 or Chrome depending on the applications that we use.   ???

Ouch, IE... Hasn't IE8 been discontinued in... 2012? But, the good news with just about every modern/popular browser is you are constantly updated to the newest version, and frequently. This means less security vulnerabilities and better compatibility with sites. From a web developer standpoint, I think it's a safe bet to say that website owners are unhappy with IE's existence because they constantly have to test their websites' compatibility with multiple versions of IE to ensure an smooth experience on all of the different versions...
Title: Re: What's your favorite internet browser?
Post by: tppthpthp on July 22, 2016, 09:55:23 am
IE8 .. good god man, I guess security isn't a major concern then :o

Some time ago they had written/acquired a web browser based application that was written specifically for IE8. :'(
Then removed access to all options/settings in the browser apparently thinking that would prevent the end users from screwing things up by not allowing them to change things.
I've often said that the company implements security by preventing users from using the tools. The best way to keep you (or anyone else) from messing up something is simply denying you access.........

It's like buying a refrigerator for your home and then putting a lock on it with one key to keep the bad guys out.
But it also prevents your family easy access. When what you should do is put a lock on the house..............
Title: Re: What's your favorite internet browser?
Post by: Razznak on July 22, 2016, 03:13:30 pm
Firefox for sure.

Back in high school my sysadmin only had IE on the computers. I said screw that, and brought in a flashdrive with portable Firefox.

A few people would bring Tor to go onto their Facebook and whatnot, but I don't trust all of Tor's exit relays.
Title: Re: What's your favorite internet browser?
Post by: scifidude79 on July 22, 2016, 03:20:56 pm
My first computer came with Windows 98 and IE4.  Horrible browser, continuously crashing.  Due to that, I've never really taken to IE.  After that debacle, I tried some other browsers, including Netscape.  I settled on Mozilla's original browser, then Firefox when it came out.  I've tried Chromium/Chrome and others over the years, but I always wind up back here.
Title: Re: What's your favorite internet browser?
Post by: rjm65 on July 22, 2016, 03:30:31 pm
Firefox  :-*
Title: Re: What's your favorite internet browser?
Post by: zebedeeboss on July 22, 2016, 03:50:00 pm
Hmmm Lets play with Seamonkey   :D
Title: Re: What's your favorite internet browser?
Post by: scifidude79 on July 22, 2016, 04:25:40 pm
Hmmm Lets play with Seamonkey   :D

Seamonkey isn't bad, if you need the kitchen sink.  It's based on the old Netscape and Mozilla suite principles of including a browser, e-mail client, chat client and news reader in one.  The great thing about it is that it works with any and all Firefox add-ons.  8)
Title: Re: What's your favorite internet browser?
Post by: zebedeeboss on July 22, 2016, 04:32:43 pm
Hmmm Lets play with Seamonkey   :D

Seamonkey isn't bad, if you need the kitchen sink.  It's based on the old Netscape and Mozilla suite principles of including a browser, e-mail client, chat client and news reader in one.  The great thing about it is that it works with any and all Firefox add-ons.  8)
I have found one it won't and that is Browsec VPN but other than that it seems fast and it works with the Forums which is a must  ;)
Title: Re: What's your favorite internet browser?
Post by: scifidude79 on July 23, 2016, 01:04:41 am
I have found one it won't and that is Browsec VPN but other than that it seems fast and it works with the Forums which is a must  ;)

I stand corrected on the plugins thing.  ;)

The web browser portion is based on Gecko, just like Firefox is. (though, it probably can't save you money on car insurance :P) So, pretty much any site that's designed to work with Firefox, which is the vast majority of them, should work with SeaMonkey also.  (operative word: should)
Title: Re: What's your favorite internet browser?
Post by: SantaFe on July 23, 2016, 08:22:47 pm
Mines Firefox!  Used to compile it myself to use GTK3, but then Mozilla copied me. :p :D
Title: Re: What's your favorite internet browser?
Post by: Bloch on July 26, 2016, 11:22:15 pm
Chromium.
Title: Re: What's your favorite internet browser?
Post by: Norton on July 27, 2016, 11:55:13 am
Slimjet for me. http://www.slimjet.com/ (http://www.slimjet.com/)

Based on Chromium, but with updated Flash like Chrome, but sends no user stats like Chrome does. Has a few other useful extras, plus uses Chrome's extensions.

Hard to tell you are not using Chrome when using Slimjet.
Title: Re: What's your favorite internet browser?
Post by: PCNetSpec on July 27, 2016, 12:13:23 pm
It's NOT an updated flash .. it's a PPAPI version of Adobe's flashplayer 11 renamed as pepperflash

When Adobe release a security update to flashplayer 11.202.nnn they only replace the last 3 digits and keep the 11.202 .. Google then convert that to a PPAPI plugin and apply it to Chrome with a WHOLE version number hike

But it's still Adobe 11.202.nnn under the skin

Google are NOT doing their own flashplayer (a look at the Chrome EULA shows this .. it's lisenced from Adobe), and Adobe are not updating flash for linux, just releasing security updates (which is a joke in and of itself).
Title: Re: What's your favorite internet browser?
Post by: Kyle on July 27, 2016, 12:17:44 pm
It's NOT an updated flash .. it's a PPAPI version of Adobe's flashplayer 11 renamed as pepperflash

When Adobe release a security update to flashplayer 11.202.nnn they only replace the last 3 digits and keep the 11.202 .. Google then convert that to a PPAPI plugin and apply it to Chrome with a WHOLE version number hike

But it's still Adobe 11.202.nnn under the skin

Google are NOT doing their own flashplayer (a look at the Chrome EULA shows this .. it's lisenced from Adobe), and Adobe are not updating flash for linux, just releasing security updates (which is a joke in and of itself).

It's a good news that Flash is becoming extinct. Everything that once used Flash is now moving to HTML5 or has moved to HTML5. And for the 1% that don't move to Flash, they will impose a security risk to all of their visitors. It baffles me that people still use Flash in 2016. Practically every site has HTML5 video support, including YouTube. To add more truth to this argument, I seen somewhere that there were around 20 security patches (recently) to Flash to patch some severe security threats such as the possibility of hackers remotely gaining access to your computer if you use Google Chrome with Flash.
Title: Re: What's your favorite internet browser?
Post by: PCNetSpec on July 27, 2016, 12:23:29 pm
I take it you don't use Fekbook then ?
Title: Re: What's your favorite internet browser?
Post by: Kyle on July 27, 2016, 12:38:33 pm
I take it you don't use Fekbook then ?

I do, but only on my Android phone.
Title: Re: What's your favorite internet browser?
Post by: Norton on July 27, 2016, 04:11:22 pm
It's NOT an updated flash .. it's a PPAPI version of Adobe's flashplayer 11 renamed as pepperflash

When Adobe release a security update to flashplayer 11.202.nnn they only replace the last 3 digits and keep the 11.202 .. Google then convert that to a PPAPI plugin and apply it to Chrome with a WHOLE version number hike

But it's still Adobe 11.202.nnn under the skin

Google are NOT doing their own flashplayer (a look at the Chrome EULA shows this .. it's lisenced from Adobe), and Adobe are not updating flash for linux, just releasing security updates (which is a joke in and of itself).

It's a good news that Flash is becoming extinct. Everything that once used Flash is now moving to HTML5 or has moved to HTML5. And for the 1% that don't move to Flash, they will impose a security risk to all of their visitors. It baffles me that people still use Flash in 2016. Practically every site has HTML5 video support, including YouTube. To add more truth to this argument, I seen somewhere that there were around 20 security patches (recently) to Flash to patch some severe security threats such as the possibility of hackers remotely gaining access to your computer if you use Google Chrome with Flash.

I wasn't clear, I meant the security updates. 

Yes, Flash is trash and the sooner in the bin the better.

I have it disabled anyway and haven't had any issues.

BUT, re: the subject matter: I still think Slimjet overall is the best browser - IMO.   ;D
Title: Re: What's your favorite internet browser?
Post by: PCNetSpec on July 27, 2016, 04:46:18 pm
It would take one heck of a browser to budge me from Firefox after all these years .. old dogs / new tricks kinda scenario
Title: Re: What's your favorite internet browser?
Post by: Kyle on July 27, 2016, 05:08:23 pm
It would take one heck of a browser to budge me from Firefox after all these years .. old dogs / new tricks kinda scenario

That's how I was. I recently moved to Chromium now after using SeaMonkey for a while. Firefox is great, and is my first choice, given I have a more powerful CPU than a Atom N270  :D
Title: Re: What's your favorite internet browser?
Post by: GNULINUX on July 27, 2016, 05:09:23 pm
It would take one heck of a browser to budge me from Firefox after all these years .. old dogs / new tricks kinda scenario
Microsoft buys Mozilla Firefox (https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-IlfxIrhOFwE/U5X_sctCnUI/AAAAAAAAIRk/vq6I7AzfPkk/s1600/tongue-out-smiley.png) should do the trick!  :P
Title: Re: What's your favorite internet browser?
Post by: zebedeeboss on July 27, 2016, 05:12:01 pm
It would take one heck of a browser to budge me from Firefox after all these years .. old dogs / new tricks kinda scenario
Microsoft buys Mozilla Firefox (https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-IlfxIrhOFwE/U5X_sctCnUI/AAAAAAAAIRk/vq6I7AzfPkk/s1600/tongue-out-smiley.png) should do the trick!  :P
HaHaHa  you're cruel  :D
Title: Re: What's your favorite internet browser?
Post by: Razznak on July 27, 2016, 05:12:22 pm
Microsoft buys Mozilla Firefox (https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-IlfxIrhOFwE/U5X_sctCnUI/AAAAAAAAIRk/vq6I7AzfPkk/s1600/tongue-out-smiley.png) should do the trick!  :P

Oh gosh! You scared me!  :P
Title: Re: What's your favorite internet browser?
Post by: PCNetSpec on July 27, 2016, 05:38:40 pm
Hmm .. yeah that might do it :o
Title: Re: What's your favorite internet browser?
Post by: walter on August 01, 2016, 05:36:03 am
I usually go for Firefox, but since converting an Atom-based laptop to Peppermint 7 I really started to enjoy Palemoon.
(https://i.imgur.com/sDwFMqO.png)
On my main PC (the 64-bit) Palemoon needs 60-75% less RAM than Firefox uses for similar tasks.  ;D
Title: Re: What's your favorite internet browser?
Post by: linuxuser2342 on August 01, 2016, 07:17:51 am
I am a mix between google chrome and firefox.
Title: Re: What's your favorite internet browser?
Post by: VinDSL on August 01, 2016, 11:28:12 am
I'm back to Chromium again ...

I tied to love Fx 'all night long' -- it's all I've used for the past 2 months -- but Fx just isn't working out for the things I do.

So, I've returned to a combination of Fx with the DTA add-on (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/downthemall/) for downloading purposes, and Chromium for everything else.