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Title: Installation Requires A Password
Post by: lafual on May 12, 2014, 01:21:45 pm
Hi, I am installing v4 from an ISO CD. I have chosen the language and partitioned disk. Next I am prompted with a login screen. At the top is an icon with a blank head with the word Peppermint. Below is a combo with the only choice being "Other...". It requires a password, and below is another combo which only shows the value Peppermint.

Is this right? What is the password? I tried pepprermint. It is a new installation! None of the installation guides say that this will happen.

For your information, I am installing on a Dell Latitude laptop with a display of 800x600, but I think the install thinks the monitor is 1024x768. Maybe something is not being displayed. Any ideas? Googling and searching the forum hasn't revealed anything.
Title: Re: Installation Requires A Password
Post by: PCNetSpec on May 12, 2014, 01:33:28 pm
No you should not get this screen until after you've finished the installation.

Try selecting the "Peppermint" user and leaving the password field blank.

Of have you already completed the installation ?
Title: Re: Installation Requires A Password
Post by: lafual on May 12, 2014, 09:38:27 pm
I had only every run the OS from the CD. This was the first installation to the HD. I got the partitioning page. Chose the default. Confirmed. Then it said, "are you really sure?". At this point I said "No" and went back a couple of steps and with a bit more confidence re-chose the default partition and full confirmed. Maybe going back and forward in the installation tipped the logic into thinking I had finished?

I also noticed that when I run it on this old laptop the wallpaper and peppermint icon are blue, where as when I run it on a new laptop, the screens and peppermint icon are red. I think the old laptop can only render up to 24bit color. Maybe I could be missing something on the screen by having the display running at 1024x768 instead of 800x600 or not rendering correctly in 24bit color?
Title: Re: Installation Requires A Password
Post by: mac on May 12, 2014, 10:05:23 pm
Hi lafual,
Welcome to the forum!   ;)

Are you saying that Peppermint 4 is actually installed on your computer's hard drive?  If so, is it operational?  Can you run commands in your terminal?

Do you know anything about your video card, chipset, memory, cpu, etc?  If so, could you share that information?

Are there any numbers beside "Dell Latitude" like Dell Latitude 1200, for example?  If so, what are the numbers? 

Did you download / burn the ISO yourself?  If so, at what speed did you burn and did you check the md5sum? 

What you described is very unusual so the more information you can give the better. 
Title: Re: Installation Requires A Password
Post by: lafual on May 12, 2014, 11:05:52 pm
Hi, thanks for the quick response.

I don't have the PC to hand at the moment, but from what I remember, it is a Latitude PP01S. The BIOS (version A9) will give a more accurate description and I can check it when I get home. It has a Pentium3 with 256Mb memory, 20Gb HD and running XP.

I downloaded Peppermint 4 ISO myself, but didn't run the checksum.  I made a USB ISO. I first used Peppermint on a newer Acer EEE laptop, from which could boot from USB in order to get some experience with Peppermint. The Latitudes BIOS is old and won't boot from USB, so I burnt the ISO using Windows7's built in ISO burner.

The first time I booted from the ISO disk on the Lattitude, I got the text start-menu. I immediately chose install. After a few minutes the install complained about a missing library but the CD continued working. After about an hour of a blank screen I assume the install wasn't working and pulled the plug. (So maybe I do have a partial install after all!)

I then tried to run the ISO disk and just see if Pepperming would run from the CD. Again I got the missing library exception. Then I noticed that the CD player on the Latitude is 24x and that my Windows7 PC is probably burning at a fast rate. Windows7's doesn't allow for the speed to change, so I burnt with ISOBurn at 1x.

With the 1x CD I was able to run Peppermint 4. Peppermint thought the resolution was 1024x768, but I was able to adjust it via xrandr.

I then ran the install using the 1X CD. It asked for the language, then about the disk partitioning, then I got the login. I was never asked about my region or keyboard.

And that about as much as I can tell with exception of what I was eating at the time  :D
Title: Re: Installation Requires A Password
Post by: AndyInMokum on May 13, 2014, 12:36:50 am
Hi lafual and welcome to the forums.  I have an idea that your old Latitude's cpu doesn't support pae. Peppermint OS Four doesn't support non-pae CPUs.  Peppermint OS Three was the last Peppermint release to support non-pae CPUs.  Also, the memory you have available, is really the bare minimum to run Peppermint.  After you boot into your Live session, (if it will allow you to do that).  Could you please run the following commands in the Terminal and post the outputs?  To open the Terminal, press, Ctrl+Alt+t.  Copy and paste into the terminal
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inxi -FPress enter. 

Do the same here
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less /proc/cpuinfoPress enter. Pessing q will exit you from cpuinfo. Post the outputs on the forums.  We will now have a better idea of what's going on with your machine and how to further advise you.  Good luck  ;).
Title: Re: Installation Requires A Password
Post by: mac on May 13, 2014, 04:53:51 am
Quote
And that about as much as I can tell with exception of what I was eating at the time  :D
Don't tell me....a bologna sandwich  ;D

Wow! That is old.  I believe Andy nailed it squarely on the head, though.  You might want to give Peppermint 3 and try, although, even if you get it up and running, it will be pretty slow.   Maybe something on the order of Puppy Linux (http://puppylinux.org/main/Overview%20and%20Getting%20Started.htm) or Tiny Core (http://distro.ibiblio.org/tinycorelinux/) would suit your hardware a bit better. 

System Requirements for both versions three and four.....

The absolute minimum required specs are as follows:

    192 MB of RAM
    Processor based on Intel x86 architecture
    At least 2 GB of available disk space

Again, do note that these are the absolute minimum required specs. We strongly recommend having something a little stronger to install on. Our minimum recommended specs are as follows:

    512 MB of RAM
    Processor based on Intel x86 architecture
    At least 4 GB of available disk space

Taking it a step further, the preferred minimum specs on a candidate for installation are as follows:

    1 GB of RAM
    x86_64 or amd64 compatible processor
    At least 4 GB of disk space

SOURCE (http://peppermintos.com/guide/downloading/)

Run the commands Andy suggested and, like he said, we'll then know better how to further advise you.


Title: Re: Installation Requires A Password
Post by: rjm65 on May 13, 2014, 05:49:12 am
Well if the machine can boot from a cdrom i would suggest making a PLOP boot manager cdrom so you can then boot your USB stick...
The guys above are right about the machine though, if you can add ram to it I would add the ram and run peppermint 3, However if the machine is maxed out at 256 megs of ram, then I suggest you try Antix mx14 and if you don't like the XFCE DE, you can do like I did and change the DE to LXDE in the metapackage installer....
Mine boots up to the desktop using about 55 megs ram this way...  Which should be low enough for a 256 meg machine....  good luck....  :)
Title: Re: Installation Requires A Password
Post by: lafual on May 13, 2014, 11:18:19 am
OK I have the inxi and cpuinfo output. I also have a screenshot, because windows like the file manage render good but the terminal is not being drawn properly. Before I post this information, some nubie questions;
(a) how can I redirect the output of inxi to a readable format. I did
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inxi -F > /tmp/inxi.txt but the output is full of escape codes.
(b) how do I attach text and jpegs to this site? I click in the button above and just get some IMG tags.

BTW The laptop's response is OK when running from a CD. It picked up my USB stick fine, in order to copy the outputs to a PC with e-mail.

I will check out PLOP - sounds exciting

Please answer (a) and (b) and i'll post the output. THanks again for all the help !
Title: Re: Installation Requires A Password
Post by: mac on May 13, 2014, 12:45:04 pm
a) Simply copy and paste your output. To do that, highlight the output, right-click, select copy and then paste to the "Post Reply" window.

b) To post an image you must first host the image somewhere online (dropbox public folder, for example) and then post its public link between the IMG tags:
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[img]your_public_link_here[/img]
Title: Re: Installation Requires A Password
Post by: AndyInMokum on May 13, 2014, 01:45:12 pm
Hi lafual, how’s it going again?  Firstly, are you booting up the Latitude into a Live Peppermint session?  You need to be able to do this. Once you have the Peppermint desktop open, open the terminal by using the key combination Ctrl+Alt+t.  You must first enter or, copy and paste the following command into the terminal window.:
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inxi -FPress enter.  You should have an output similar to mine.

View example by clicking the spoiler below

Spoiler (click here to view / hide)
[close]
To copy the output, click and hold the left mouse button.  Drag the mouse to the end of the output and right click the mouse.  Select copy.  Return to Peppermint forum.  In the Peppermint forum editor, left click on the Sp, (spoiler) button.  Use the key combination: Ctrl+v to paste your terminal output inbetween the spoiler brackets.  You can check your progress by clicking on the Preview button, that is located under the post reply window on the right hand side.  Click on the, Spoiler (click here to view) to check your progress. 

Repeat the process for the command:
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less /proc/cpuinfo.  To make it easier, only post the the flags section as shown below:
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[close]
That's it  for posting the terminal output :).

As mac has said, to post an image you need to use an image hosting site.  I use the free image hosting service, Postimage: http://postimage.org/ (http://postimage.org/).  You need to upload the image you want to use to the site,  After the image has uploaded, click on the view codes button under your uploaded image.  Copy the code for link or Direct Link.  In the Peppermint post reply window click on the Insert Hyperlink button.  It is under the italic I.  Check your post by clicking Preview and if you are happy , post the message.  I hope this explains it better for you.  Have a good one and always remember to have fun  ;)!!
Title: Re: Installation Requires A Password
Post by: lafual on May 14, 2014, 12:52:21 pm
Here you go.

inxi output

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And procinfo

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Looking at the inxi output, it looks as if the disk was partitioned by the install.

I do have a query about the partitioning screen in the set up. One has a slider to change the size, but nothing indicates where XP is and where Peppermint will go. Which is which?

Thanks again for your interest.
Title: Re: Installation Requires A Password
Post by: mac on May 14, 2014, 04:50:08 pm
Wow, it is pae....
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca cmov pse36 mmx fxsr sse

Run the following...
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sudo blkidthen...
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sudo fdisk -l
Title: Re: Installation Requires A Password
Post by: AndyInMokum on May 14, 2014, 05:16:56 pm
Wow is the word, when I saw pae in the output, you could have knocked me down with a feather.  We now know its not a pae problem.  I see that you were trying to install from the "start menu".  There are issues doing this.  Try booting into the desktop and use the Peppermint OS Four installer on the desktop. Hopefully that will be smoother for you.  I really want to hear you've got it up and running.  That would be awesome.  Good luck  ;)!!
Title: Re: Installation Requires A Password
Post by: lafual on May 14, 2014, 09:25:26 pm
Hi,

I have tried running the installation from the Peppermint desktop after booting the OS from a CD. It still goes "Choose Language" -> "Login". It now skips the partitioning. I looks from the "inxi" info I gave you that the partition has been done. I will run "fdisk" when I get home.

I am beginning to wonder if the first failed install on this PC (failed because the disk was written as 52X and the PCs disk reader is 24X) did a partial install. Maybe cleaning the content of the partition or removing the partition would fix it? I would need instructions on this. "rm -rf /" is limit of my cleaning knowledge on UNIX and I guess that is not permissible on some flavors of UNIX

Reiterating a previous question; when one comes to partition the disk. The default is in the Peppermint install is 50/50, but you can use a slider to adjust. However, the screen doesn't explain which partition is for Peppermint and which is for the existing OS (XP in my case).
Title: Re: Installation Requires A Password
Post by: AndyInMokum on May 15, 2014, 01:29:17 am
Hi lafual,  you can also use the small but powerful graphical partitioning tool, GParted. Once you have booted into the live session.  You will find GParted by navigating to menu>System Tools>GParted.  You will be presented with a nice graphical representation of your hard disk(s).  The Windows partitions are normally formatted as NTFS.  Linux partitions with be either Ext2, Ext3 or Ext4.  The most popular one being Ext4.  I really suggest you familiarise yourself with GParted.  It is a really useful and  powerful tool.  Still post the outputs that mac has requested though.  GParted is for your own convenience.  Have a great one  ;). 
Title: Re: Installation Requires A Password
Post by: rjm65 on May 15, 2014, 05:26:09 am
(failed because the disk was written as 52X and the PCs disk reader is 24X)
I was in the duplication field many years and I can tell you this, NEVER burn a disc a 52X. If you want high quality you buy 52x discs and never burn them faster then 16x and for an operating system I never bun faster then 8x....  DVD's same thing you buy 16x dvd's and burn at 4x or 6x no faster....
Title: Re: Installation Requires A Password
Post by: lafual on May 15, 2014, 12:22:17 pm
Hi guys,

blkid output

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fdisk output

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[close]

So it seems, I have a segment for Peppermint. What next? Remove the partition and try again with by X1 CD? If so please guide me on whether to remove the partition or just clean its content. I will need to the UNIX command (despite having used UNIX for 25yr) I have never ventured into system admin. So "rm" is the limit of my knowledge here.
Title: Re: Installation Requires A Password
Post by: PCNetSpec on May 15, 2014, 12:32:32 pm
Would I be right is saying you're booting with a 16GB USB stick inserted ?
Title: Re: Installation Requires A Password
Post by: lafual on May 16, 2014, 02:20:21 am
The USB was inserted after the boot has finished in order to transfer the output to a PC with internet. (The Latitude has a PCMCIA Wireless Card, which Peppermint doesn't seem to recognise and the cable was too short plug the Lattitude directly into the router)
Title: Re: Installation Requires A Password
Post by: PCNetSpec on May 16, 2014, 02:35:50 am
OK,

You HAVEN'T installed Peppermint yet.

So if it's the LiveCD that's asking for a password .. there's something wrong with the disk.

Unless of coursed you mean it's asking for a password at this screen during the installation:-

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-BFUjm3JrMrU/Ub16VhhvzuI/AAAAAAAAGww/uQyJcfSOd9U/s0-d/238.png)
Title: Re: Installation Requires A Password
Post by: lafual on May 16, 2014, 07:01:20 am
Hi PcNetSpec,

I have never got the screen displayed in your post. To be clear, I have never successfully installed Peppermint from the live CD. I have attempted the install a number of times.

When you say there is a problem with the disk, do you mean the CD or my HD? The CD seems to be fine as I can use Peppermint OS from the live CD without any problem (other than the installation). The HD is fine in that on the other partition is XP, which works.
Title: Re: Installation Requires A Password
Post by: PCNetSpec on May 16, 2014, 07:22:20 am
Ahh...

I bet whaat's happening is that the screensaver is cutting in .. which leaves you at the login screen

either

a) keep your mouse moving during the installation .. I think the screensaver tiemout is 10 mins by default

or

b) use these login credentials

Username = peppermint
Password = <leave it blank>



Other than that it MUST be a disk (CD) or image (ISO) issue .. just because it runs in live mode doesn't mean the installer isn't corrupt.

I suppose theoretically it could be a RAM problem .. but I doubt it would only manifest in the installer  :-\

Have you checked the MD5 checksum of the ISO image you downloaded ?
Title: Re: Installation Requires A Password
Post by: lafual on May 17, 2014, 01:15:30 pm
MD5 checksum is correct. I kept moving the mouse as you advised. The login still appeared. Entering user peppermint without a password  brought me back to the desktop with the "install peppermint os" icon in the top left. The CD did carry on for a bit then stopped. There was no alert to say that the installation had finished. When I rebooted from the HD, it went straight to XP.  >:(
Title: Re: Installation Requires A Password
Post by: PCNetSpec on May 17, 2014, 02:53:06 pm
OK, something tells me your system is having problems reading the LiveCD.

Is this a laptop or Desktop ?

Have you got another optical drive you can use ? .. or can your system boot from a USB stick ?
Title: Re: Installation Requires A Password
Post by: lafual on May 17, 2014, 09:41:45 pm
The PC is a Dell Latitude Laptop (see the beginning of the thread for details). The OS works OK, as far as I can tell, from the Live CD. It is just the installation that fails. I have asked this a number of times, but have never got an answer. My first installation failed and just went to a blank screen. Could having a partial installation on the HD cause the problem? How can I erase the content of the partition and start again?

The laptop's BIOS does not allow a boot from a USB. As suggested earlier in the the thread, I tried PLOP. I was able to get Peppermint's boot menu to appear via a USB1 port on laptop start-up, but after choosing the installation option, nothing happened. I only have USB2 ports on this laptop via a PCMCIA card, and PLOP doesn't seem to like these ports.
Title: Re: Installation Requires A Password
Post by: PCNetSpec on May 17, 2014, 09:51:15 pm
Just because he cd works in live mode doesn't mean the installer or installation data isn't corrupt.

And your earlier attempt didn't create ANY linux partitions on your hard drive .. so NOTHING got installed.
Title: Re: Installation Requires A Password
Post by: lafual on May 18, 2014, 01:43:51 am
This is the 3rd CD I have tried (52X, 1X and 8X) and I have MD5 checked them all. Can they all run Live OK, but all fail the install?

I think the disk has been partitioned. This is from the "inxi" output I posted a few days back?


Drives:    HDD Total Size: 46.2GB (24.1% used)
1: id: /dev/sda model: IC25N030ATMR04 size: 30.0GB
2: id: /dev/sdb model: Name n/a size: 16.2GB


Until I started this post, I never knew "inxi", I assume this means that the disk is partitioned, and I am 90% sure the partition only appeared after I chose the Peppermint install and chose the partitioning on the peppermint installation menu. (I say 90%, as I inherited this laptop a while back and it may have been partitioned when I received it and I never noticed.)
Title: Re: Installation Requires A Password
Post by: PCNetSpec on May 18, 2014, 02:45:55 am
OK, let's be sure about this .. can you post the output from:
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sudo fdisk -land
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sudo blkid
How far does the installer get before crashing/exiting ?

When the installer crashes/exits .. does thee whole system crash or does it leave you at a working desktop ?
(as if it's still running we might be able to check the installer logs to see where things are going wrong)

Are you electing to download updates during the install ? .. have you tried without selecting that ?
Title: Re: Installation Requires A Password
Post by: lafual on May 18, 2014, 09:04:36 pm
Hi, I have already posted "fdisk" and "blkid" output on this thread (page 1? I am at work now and don't have the output to hand).

When running the installer, from the desktop after running the Live CD or from the boot menu of the Live CD, I get (a) the language choice (b) the confirmation of disk space and do I agree to install 3rd party MP3 encoders. (c) Only once did I get asked for partitioning. Then the CD works for about 5 mins, then the screen goes black and returns to the desktop with just the "install peppermint os" icon. I have tried with and without 'download updates during install'.

I also manage to get PLOP to understand my PCMCIA USB2. I ran the install from there, but after a few minutes I get a text error saying something along the lines of "no live media" found.

Installer logs definitely seems the way to go. Where can I find them?
Title: Re: Installation Requires A Password
Post by: PCNetSpec on May 19, 2014, 02:07:31 am
/var/log/installer
Title: Re: Installation Requires A Password
Post by: lafual on May 24, 2014, 12:15:46 pm
Sorry for the delay. I now consistently get to the 4th of 7 installation windows. The one which asks to choose a partition. At this point there is only one partition to choose in the pop-up and the [continue] button is greyed out.

Installer logs are here https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8V6Xwa02yAAeC0yWjNHUXhSMUk/edit?usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8V6Xwa02yAAeC0yWjNHUXhSMUk/edit?usp=sharing)
Title: Re: Installation Requires A Password
Post by: PCNetSpec on May 24, 2014, 12:33:40 pm
What popup ?

You shouldn't be asked to choose any particular "partitions" unless you choose "Something Else" .. is that what you're choosing ?
Title: Re: Installation Requires A Password
Post by: lafual on May 25, 2014, 11:06:42 am
I get to the window which asks how I want to install Peppermint. I chose "Alongside Windows", the next screen asks for the size of partition. There is a combo which only gives me a choice of one drive. There is a Quit button and Back button which are enabled. The continue button is disabled. Pressing Quit or Back gives me a pop-up saying that something is running and "do I really want to quit?" No matter how long I wait, the continue button is never enabled.

Before, I never got this far. Before I was not connected to a LAN and always chose to install MP3 decoders. The install would halt here. However, by connecting my laptop to my LAN and not checking the MP3 decoders I consistently get to the partition screen. The error logs I attached are for when I get to the partition screen.
Title: Re: Installation Requires A Password
Post by: PCNetSpec on May 25, 2014, 11:30:50 am
I take it you get to a window similar to the one pictured below ?

Where there's only one drive in the drop menu ? .. that's probably because at present there IS only one drive.

You need to drag the partition divider to show how much you want to shrink your windows partition by, therefore allocating it to Peppermint.

(http://i.stack.imgur.com/CgafJ.png)
Title: Re: Installation Requires A Password
Post by: lafual on May 26, 2014, 12:17:37 pm
OK - some progress. I found that installing straight from the Live CD's boot menu does not work. I go past screen 1 (choose language), then whatever I choose on screen 2 (checks for disk space, internet connection, do i want to download updates, install MP3 decoders), the process then goes to the login screen. OK - I choose user "peppermint" and no password, but the process takes me to the Peppermint desktop, from which nothing works.

If I run the Live CD and first run the Peppermint OS from the boot menu, then click the install icon I get screen 1. I found that if on screen 2 I choose to  install MP3 decoders and/or am not connected to the internet, the login screen returns. I choose the user/pass as above and am returned to the Peppermint desktop. The installation process seems to abort and the install icon will not work again.

If I run the Live CD and on screen 2 DO NOT CHOOSE to install MP3 decoders and AM connected to the internet (via a LAN), I get to the next screen (3), which asks whether I want to install Peppermint along side Windows or overwrite Windows. From here I go to screen 4 (which you show above). However, until today the continue button was never enabled and I never saw disk sizes on the two partitions.

I discovered that a previous installation did a partial partition of about 50Mb! I think this is why screen 4 never worked. So I removed this smaller partition using XP and repeated the process. Finally, today I see the disk size according to your screen shot (however the OS names were NOT displayed!?). I choose "install now" and progressed (yay). There was a pop-up saying that this may take a while. I sat with the install for about 20 mins, then went for a coffee. I returned to find the d*** login screen again and when I entered the user/pass I was returned to the desktop and the install has aborted. Why the h*** is there a login/time-out on an install which is so d*** slow and will inevitably bring up the login-prompt and abort the install! Why does it abort the install! (Excuse my frustration, but this about the 20th time I have tried this install!)  Is there a way of disabling the login/time-out?

I tried to reboot the PC from the HD, but it went straight to XP, so I assume the install did not work.
Title: Re: Installation Requires A Password
Post by: PCNetSpec on May 26, 2014, 12:22:42 pm
Try again (from the desktop icon) .. but this time make sure you move the mouse every few minutes during the install.

Mind you, the screensaver kicking in shouldn't drop you back to the desktop  :-\
Title: Re: Installation Requires A Password
Post by: AndyInMokum on May 26, 2014, 12:36:29 pm
Hi there,  just a quick thought about the screen saver kicking in.  Try disabling the screen saver before starting the installation process.  After you've booted into the desktop.  Go to menu>Preferences>Screensaver.   In Mode select Disable Screen Saver.   Hopefully that should stopped the screen blanking during the installation.  I hope this helps  :)!!
Title: Re: Installation Requires A Password
Post by: lafual on May 26, 2014, 12:38:13 pm
Hi. I just sat here for 30 mins moving the mouse. I still get the login prompt during the partition creation. I rebooted to XP from the HD and ran DISKPART, but there is no new partition  :-\

Have just seen the new post. Will try and disable the screen saver. One more try before bed!
Title: Re: Installation Requires A Password
Post by: PCNetSpec on May 26, 2014, 12:55:54 pm
As it seems to be crashing at the partitioning .. it might be better to see if you can use something else to shrink the Windows partition leaving unpartitioned space at the end of the drive.

The Windows partition isn't full is it ? .. ie. it has enough free space to be resized ?

Have you tried (in Windows) defragging Windows and running chkdsk to check the windows partition for errors .. BEFORE running the Peppermint installer (from the live desktop icon. ?
(I'm wondering if the installer is crashing because it's unable to resize the Windows partition for some reason)

[EDIT]

If that still doesn't work .. can you boot to the Peppermint live desktop, open a terminal (Ctrl+Alt+T) and post the output from these commands:
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sudo fdisk -land
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df -hif the first command prompts for a password .. leave it blank and hit enter.
Title: Re: Installation Requires A Password
Post by: lafual on May 26, 2014, 01:24:43 pm
I disabled the screen saver as instructed. Closed and re-opened the Preferences window to double check the setting was saved. It was. Ran the install and still get the login screen after 10 after having started the partition.  :-[

The HD is pretty empty. I uninstalled all apps so I have a bare bones XP using 4Gb of a 30Gb. The disk is also defragged and ironically XP runs really quickly ;-)
Title: Re: Installation Requires A Password
Post by: PCNetSpec on May 26, 2014, 02:01:40 pm
As I said, why not try using something like Gparted (which is available in the Peppermint live session) to shrink the windows partition leaving free (unpartitioned) space AFTER the Windows partition.

Then try installing .. it should offer to install to the free space.
Title: Re: Installation Requires A Password
Post by: lafual on May 27, 2014, 12:45:48 pm
I tried Gparted (nice app). Created a free partition. Ran the install from the desktop, which hung on the 2 install page (check disk space, internet connection) etc. Rebooted, ran the live CD, ran install from the desktop. Got to the disk partition screen. The install didn't offer to use the free space. I chose the manual choice, formatted the free space, choose the root device as "/" then proceeded to install. The time-out/login pop-up appeared after a few minutes and returned me back to the OS desktop.  :-\

I have tried to switch this off on the Preference panel, but it doesn't seem to make any difference. This is a real problem when the install is so slow.
Title: Re: Installation Requires A Password
Post by: lafual on June 03, 2014, 05:51:46 am
Hi, an update of sorts.

Background: My original aim was to make Peppermint dual boot alongside XP on an Acer EEE. This is my wife's PC and she didn't want to lose XP, but wanted something quicker for using the web. So before killing the EEE, I started experimenting on my own older Dell Latitude.

As stated in earlier in this thread I was unable to install Peppermint 4, so a few days ago I turned to something lighter - Browser Linux. This install screwed my XP boot and to be honest couldn't be bothered to fix XP. So, I turned to Lubuntu 14 Alternate Install. I did a full install (overwrite everything) as I had already kind-of lost XP and the install worked! I would suggest Peppermint developers take a look at their install. It runs in text mode, so is far quicker than Peppermint as it doesn't need to run a GUI environment, The Peppermint install thinks my laptop is 1024x768. when it is acutally 800x600 (I can fix it with xrandr), where as the Lubuntu install doesn't try to be so clever so early.

Having Lubuntu installed, I returned to Peppermint 4. This time I chose to install it alongside Lubuntu. The install went further than ever before and for the first time I got asked my location. However, the install failed again because it could not build a swap partition. Having got Lubuntu to install with a full (overwrite everything) install I tried this with Peppermint, but again it failed. This time with errors thrown by the GUI of the install, not disk issues. (I got a stack trace which was related event handling of GUI buttons).

The Latitude will now not boot. Does the Peppermint full install (overwrite everything) format the disk? How can I format the disk without an OS? Any suggestions on what to do now?
Title: Re: Installation Requires A Password
Post by: PCNetSpec on June 03, 2014, 06:56:36 am
Seriously .. I'd just go back to Lubuntu (alternative install).

Peppermint don't do a text install version .. or wait for Peppermint five.

Have you tried a Lubuntu 14.04 (standard desktop edition - NOT Alternative install) .. if that'll install, so will Peppermint 5 which is due out soon.
Title: Re: Installation Requires A Password
Post by: lafual on June 05, 2014, 03:02:27 am
Lubuntu 14.04 (standard desktop edition - NOT Alternative install) worked too. Damn slow, but it worked. The install wizard was exactly the same as Peppermint   >:(
Title: Re: Installation Requires A Password
Post by: PCNetSpec on June 05, 2014, 04:20:05 am
Well if Lubuntu 14.04 works, you'll probably be OK with Peppermint 5 when it's released .. which should be very soon now :)