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Title: Installing SeaMonkey web browser [SOLVED]
Post by: sskarma on September 05, 2015, 12:58:53 am
Hi Peppermint Gurus and members,

Today I downloaded the tar.bz.2 package of SeaMonkey web browser from their official site. they don't have a Debian package, so I had to do some reading about how to install tar.bz.2 applications. after extracting the package and feeding terminal commands, I have been able to launch the application and it now appears in .local/share/applications which I think is good. now I can launch the app directly by clicking the SeaMonkey icon there and can also copy it to desktop.

however, I have no idea of how to move this application to the menu. for example how firefox and chrome are shown in the Internet submenu. I want to move "SeaMonkey" to the menu like that :( please help me
Title: Re: Installing SeaMonkey web browser
Post by: Slim.Fatz on September 05, 2015, 02:20:31 am
Hi sk_sarma,

When you say that after installing the application "it now appears in .local/share/applications" I assume you mean in this location

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~/.local/share/applications/

But tell us what exactly is found there for SeaMonkey. I assume it must be a new .desktop file (perhaps named seamonkey.desktop). If so, you can open this file using the text editor (gedit) and find the line that begins with:

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Categories=

and make it read:

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Categories=Gtk;Network;

If such a line is not present then add it to the end of the file. Then save the file. You may have to log-out and then log-in again (I'm not sure anymore) but now the SeaMonkey entry should appear in your menu in the Internet category submenu.

Regards,

-- Slim
Title: Re: Installing SeaMonkey web browser
Post by: scifidude79 on September 05, 2015, 02:49:43 am
There's a repository that contains Seamonkey called Ubuntuzilla.  To add it to your system, open a terminal and run these commands in this order:

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sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com C1289A29

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echo -e "\ndeb http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/ubuntuzilla/mozilla/apt all main" \
| sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list > /dev/null

Then run this:

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sudo apt-get update

Then, to install Seamonkey, you just have to run this:

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sudo apt-get install seamonkey-mozilla-build

That will install the latest version of Seamonkey on your system from the repository.  This version has advantages to the version you downloaded, such as it being put where it goes in the menu automatically.  Also, you'll be able to receive updates the same way you do for everything else, as opposed to having to separately download another .tar.bz.2 file.  Of course, that's not to say you have to use it, I'm just offering a suggestion.
Title: Re: Installing SeaMonkey web browser
Post by: sskarma on September 05, 2015, 03:06:58 am
Thank you slim. I'll carry on with your suggestion as soon as I get to my computer
Title: Re: Installing SeaMonkey web browser
Post by: sskarma on September 05, 2015, 03:12:25 am
Thank you SciFiDude. If I had your suggestion earlier, it would have saved me hours of labour spent in the manual install.
Title: Re: Installing SeaMonkey web browser
Post by: scifidude79 on September 05, 2015, 03:49:57 am
Yeah, that sucks.  I've been there before.  I don't know why Canonical can't just put it in their repositories.  Seamonkey is a nice project and there are enough people that like it to where it wouldn't be a wasted effort.
Title: Re: Installing SeaMonkey web browser
Post by: sskarma on September 05, 2015, 05:09:55 am
Totally agree with you. Especially the 4-in-1 feature of SeaMonkey (Web browser+IRC+Email+Newsreader) comes very handy for people with low system specs. They don't have to install a separate email and IRC client. I became a fan of SeaMonkey when I was using Puppy Linux. it's like a plethora of happiness in one small package :)
Title: Re: Installing SeaMonkey web browser
Post by: AndyInMokum on September 05, 2015, 05:23:48 am
...it's like a plethora of happiness in one small package :) -- sk_sarma
You could also easily say this about Peppermint - brilliant  ;D!!
Title: Re: Installing SeaMonkey web browser
Post by: sskarma on September 05, 2015, 05:39:13 am
Sure :) I'm pretty sure that SeaMonkey will give it's best on Peppermint. Both are a result of sheer brilliance
Title: Re: Installing SeaMonkey web browser
Post by: scifidude79 on September 05, 2015, 11:32:57 am
Totally agree with you. Especially the 4-in-1 feature of SeaMonkey (Web browser+IRC+Email+Newsreader) comes very handy for people with low system specs. They don't have to install a separate email and IRC client. I became a fan of SeaMonkey when I was using Puppy Linux. it's like a plethora of happiness in one small package :)

Also, I find Seamonky actually runs better on lower end systems, probably due to the fact that it's based on the old Netscape Navigator code and hasn't been updated quite as much as Firefox.  It probably uses less processing power and RAM than Firefox.
Title: Re: Installing SeaMonkey web browser [SOLVED]
Post by: sskarma on September 05, 2015, 11:56:22 am
You are right, SciFiDude. There cannot be any better browser than SeaMonkey for a distro as lightweight as Puppy Linux. Users with low specs can enjoy full fledged browsing with SeaMonkey on Peppermint too.  :)
Title: Re: Installing SeaMonkey web browser [SOLVED]
Post by: sskarma on September 05, 2015, 12:01:54 pm
 :)  ;)  Topic update. The gedit trick of adding categories didn't work  :-\ Instead, I extracted the package in a known location. Then I installed Menu editor. I added a new app in the internet menu, located the executable file called "seamonkey" inside the extracted folder, set the icon from within the folder. And I have successfully installed SeaMonkey and it now appears in my menu  8) . Thank you all. (I would have followed the repository trick but I wanted to learn more about installing tar.bz.2 applications)  ::)
Title: Re: Installing SeaMonkey web browser
Post by: spence on September 05, 2015, 12:06:53 pm
Sure :) I'm pretty sure that SeaMonkey will give it's best on Peppermint. Both are a result of sheer brilliance

happy to see another Seamonkey aficionado... happier still you found the repositories... lots of changes in the coding since its origins back in the Netscape Navigator days, of which I am a veteran... Seamonkey desperately needs to grow its userbase as its funding going forward is contingent upon its package download numbers... for those of you who still remember and sometimes use newsgroup forums... news.mozilla.org contains mozilla.support.seamonkey as well as firefox and thunderbird....
Title: Re: Installing SeaMonkey web browser [SOLVED]
Post by: sskarma on September 05, 2015, 01:29:56 pm
Hi spence, I think SeaMonkey is like a firefox relative but lighter and feature rich. I like the ChatZilla and Email feature a lot. but I wonder why SeaMonkey is so underrated and not so famous at all :( If it wasn't for puppy, I would never have come across this fantastic web browser
Title: Re: Installing SeaMonkey web browser [SOLVED]
Post by: scifidude79 on September 05, 2015, 01:39:40 pm
Seamonkey is made by Mozilla, just as Firefox and Thunderbird are.  It's based on the old Netscape Navigator code, which Mozilla bought years ago.  The way it looks and acts reminds me a lot of Firefox 2 and 3, which I loved.  Plus, it has some great features like the ability to use Firefox add-ons and import settings from Thunderbird.  Websites even think it's Firefox, which can sidestep compatibility issues that you have with "alternate" browsers.  In fact, since I installed it early this morning to test my instructions that I posted here for installing it, I'm thinking of switching back to it.  Firefox irks me sometimes, especially in relation to the "features" they add or remove.  They've done away with some really nice stuff that I loved and implemented a lot of changes I hate.  So, it may be time to go back to that classic Firefox feel with Seamonkey.  Plus, the built in mail program is nice.   ;D
Title: Re: Installing SeaMonkey web browser [SOLVED]
Post by: PCNetSpec on September 05, 2015, 01:47:25 pm
It would be a lot more "well known" in the Linux world if it was in the Ubuntu repos, but I gather it was removed due to nobody stepping up and offering to maintain it through the full 5 years LTS life cycle

Sources:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/seamonkey/+bug/987713
and
http://askubuntu.com/questions/397272/why-isnt-mozilla-seamonkey-available-in-the-repositories-how-can-i-install-it
Title: Re: Installing SeaMonkey web browser [SOLVED]
Post by: sskarma on September 05, 2015, 01:56:05 pm
Sure it is. and the IRC plug-in is great as well. A lot of IRC websites are designed for Windows in such a way that clicking some particular link launches mIRC directly and goes into the channel. I couldn't do that on firefox or chrome. none of them could launch neither pidgin nor empathy (on elementary os). but then when I tried to open the same link with SeaMonkey on puppy Linux, it immediately launched the ChatZilla plug-in which is so cool. And not to mention how speedy and reliable the email client is. it renders the emails in html format and it also saves disk space and RAM
Title: Re: Installing SeaMonkey web browser [SOLVED]
Post by: sskarma on September 05, 2015, 01:59:27 pm
Thank you for the info PCNetSpec. now I see why it is not in the ubuntu repository by default. :(
Title: Re: Installing SeaMonkey web browser [SOLVED]
Post by: Slim.Fatz on September 05, 2015, 02:19:31 pm
Sure it is. and the IRC plug-in is great as well. A lot of IRC websites are designed for Windows in such a way that clicking some particular link launches mIRC directly and goes into the channel. I couldn't do that on firefox or chrome.

Hi sk_sarma,

You can do this with Firefox (I do not use Chrome enough to bother trying this, but it is probably similar). For example, I have the IRC program client called HexChat installed. To get it to open when I click on an IRC link in Firefox I did the following:

1. Click on the Firefox "hamburger" button (in the upper right corner).

2. Click on the button named Preferences.

3. In the tab that then opens, look on the left edge and click on the button named Applications.

4. Find the entry irc in the right pane listing and click on it.

5. Then to the right of that irc entry click on whatever appears (unless your IRC client is already there, you will probably just see something like "Always ask"; if your client is already present, you should not need to do anything more).

6. Select the IRC client you wish from the list that opens or click on the entry "Use other..." and select your IRC client.

7. Close the Preferences tab and you should be finished.

Regards,

-- Slim
Title: Re: Installing SeaMonkey web browser [SOLVED]
Post by: sskarma on September 05, 2015, 02:43:52 pm
Do you mean that "smile icon" on firefox which says "Start a conversation"? I thought it is some firefox community chat. so i had it removed from there using the customization feature. :-\
Title: Re: Installing SeaMonkey web browser [SOLVED]
Post by: PCNetSpec on September 05, 2015, 03:02:52 pm
NO .. he's talking about specifying which application opens a given link type in Firefox
Title: Re: Installing SeaMonkey web browser [SOLVED]
Post by: Slim.Fatz on September 05, 2015, 03:26:18 pm
Hi sk_sarma,

I mean (when I say "hamburger") the three horizontal lines stacked on top of each other in the upper right hand corner of your Firefox window. Clicking on it will open the Firefox menu.

Regards,

-- Slim
Title: Re: Installing SeaMonkey web browser [SOLVED]
Post by: sskarma on September 05, 2015, 03:34:30 pm
 ;D took a few minutes for me to figure it out. yes I can see an applications menu in preferences. It allows one to launch IRC with an in-built application. :) It still doesn't show pidgin as an option though. I have installed "xChat" which appears there, along with something called mibbit
Title: Re: Installing SeaMonkey web browser [SOLVED]
Post by: PCNetSpec on September 05, 2015, 04:02:05 pm
Maybe try "Use Other" and point it at the pidgin binary (/usr/bin/pidgin).
Title: Re: Installing SeaMonkey web browser [SOLVED]
Post by: sskarma on September 05, 2015, 04:23:09 pm
Perhaps that'll work. I wonder why I never paid much attention to this menu before. :D
Title: Re: Installing SeaMonkey web browser [SOLVED]
Post by: spence on August 29, 2017, 04:13:33 pm
Hopefully, nobody minds that I post in this Seamonkey thread after successfully implementing scifidude79's prior instructions... been trying to live without a dedicated email client on my new home built desktop, but it's apparent i need Seamonkey back in my life... bumping this back up in case anyone else is also in need.

Cheers Mates  8)
Title: Re: Installing SeaMonkey web browser [SOLVED]
Post by: spence on November 18, 2017, 11:11:43 am
Will also bump this Seamonkey thred once again as my week of testing the latest official build of Seamonkey has gone without a hitch... 2.49.1 was released on 10/30 or so, hasn't made it to Ubuntuzilla, but the 64 bit .deb is available as a "Contributed Build" at the bottom of the page  here... https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ (https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/) 32 bit is the link at the top. For those of you who like to play with nightly releases, I'd advise staying away.... for the moment
Title: Re: Installing SeaMonkey web browser [SOLVED]
Post by: spence on June 09, 2018, 10:17:11 pm
 :)  Giving thanks to scifidude79 & bumping this back up again as I'm ready to recover my e'mail archives now... Seamonkey has a recent release bumping it up to 2.49.3 for all of you who have fond memories of the Netscape Navigator days...

 8)
Title: Re: Installing SeaMonkey web browser [SOLVED]
Post by: spence on June 24, 2018, 02:54:56 pm
Hi sk_sarma,

I mean (when I say "hamburger") the three horizontal lines stacked on top of each other in the upper right hand corner of your Firefox window. Clicking on it will open the Firefox menu.

Hmmm, have always heard it referred to as the pancake menu... perhaps we can now label it the flapjacks stack now?
Title: Re: Installing SeaMonkey web browser [SOLVED]
Post by: PCNetSpec on June 24, 2018, 07:54:36 pm
What is it with you and flapjacks :)
Title: Re: Installing SeaMonkey web browser [SOLVED]
Post by: Slim.Fatz on June 25, 2018, 01:12:20 pm
I find spence to be a really unique and inventive member of our community. Therefore, I too will try to change my ways and start referring to this as the "pancake menu".  :D

Really sweet, spence !!  ;D   

Regards,

 -- Slim
Title: Re: Installing SeaMonkey web browser [SOLVED]
Post by: spence on June 25, 2018, 01:21:27 pm
What is it with you and flapjacks :)

Me? I thought @SciFiDude79 started that flapjacks meme?  :-\
Title: Re: Installing SeaMonkey web browser [SOLVED]
Post by: spence on June 25, 2018, 01:24:49 pm
I find spence to be a really unique and inventive member of our community. Therefore, I too will try to change my ways and start referring to this as the "pancake menu".  :D

Really sweet, spence !!  ;D   

Awww shuxxx, thanks @Slim.Fatz... but I can't possibly take credit... for that's what they call it on the news.mozilla.org seamonkey newsgroups...    8)
Title: Re: Installing SeaMonkey web browser [SOLVED]
Post by: Slim.Fatz on June 25, 2018, 01:28:21 pm
Hi spence,

OK, I stand corrected. But I still stand by the first sentence in my post !!  :-*    :D

Regards,

 -- Slim
Title: Re: Installing SeaMonkey web browser [SOLVED]
Post by: PCNetSpec on June 25, 2018, 10:52:54 pm
What is it with you and flapjacks :)

Me? I thought @SciFiDude79 started that flapjacks meme?  :-\

Ah right, in that case I apologise spence

Chris, you have a lot to answer for now my friend .. look what you've started :)
Title: Re: Installing SeaMonkey web browser
Post by: spence on December 23, 2018, 12:06:54 pm
Reinstalling Seamonkey today as I need access to the old email addressbook in order to respond to holiday messages. Once again expressing thanks to @scifidude79 for this quick and easy fix...

There's a repository that contains Seamonkey called Ubuntuzilla.  To add it to your system, open a terminal and run these commands in this order:

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sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com C1289A29

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echo -e "\ndeb http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/ubuntuzilla/mozilla/apt all main" \
| sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list > /dev/null

Then run this:

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sudo apt-get update

Then, to install Seamonkey, you just have to run this:

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sudo apt-get install seamonkey-mozilla-build

That will install the latest version of Seamonkey on your system from the repository.  This version has advantages to the version you downloaded, such as it being put where it goes in the menu automatically.  Also, you'll be able to receive updates the same way you do for everything else, as opposed to having to separately download another .tar.bz.2 file.  Of course, that's not to say you have to use it, I'm just offering a suggestion.
Title: Re: Installing SeaMonkey web browser [SOLVED]
Post by: spence on April 20, 2019, 03:41:28 pm
 A fresh dip / rinse/ wipe & dry of my ssd harddrive now requires a fresh install of my old standby Seamonkey. Sadly @scifidude79's quick and easy ppa install doesn't currently work:

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spence@antec ~ $ sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com C1289A29
[sudo] password for spence:
Executing: /tmp/apt-key-gpghome.PgKgydeSXB/gpg.1.sh --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com C1289A29
gpg: keyserver receive failed: Server indicated a failure

 A quick check of the Seamonkey Dev Blogs https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/ (https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/) reveal it's days may be numbered:

ewong wrote:
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Also note that SeaMonkey needs to completely stop relying on Mozilla’s infrastructure (*every single thing*, including this blog, bugzilla… you name it.. we need to be off it) by end of the year...
At the end… a failed attempt at keeping up to date with the whole build process.

So… the project is at a standstill.

I dunno if anyone here on our forums who knows how to code still has a soft spot in their hearts for the project that inherited and has been steadfastly modernizing the Netscape Navigator code base on a shoestring budget. Both the Seamonkey Project and Thunderbird devs have been working in a steadfast yet strained camp, unbeloved by Mozilla who publicly began seeking a new home for them years ago. Perhaps if coders are kicking about for something to do, if only old times sake, they might contact the team... ... ...

I am very sad, Netscape Navigator 3.0 Gold was my on ramp to the WWW back in '96. Somewhere along the way the old Netscape code was made open source. Shortly thereafter the Seamonkey Project was created to continue developing and modernizing the code. Mozilla gave donations to both Seamonkey & Thunderbird.  It would seem mozilla is now ending that funding stream.  While I know I can go get the tarball from the project page... this just feels like a white flag of surrender moment.

 :'(