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(abandoned) Peppermint OS 10 Won't Boot/Start
« on: January 24, 2020, 08:26:50 am »
Wow! Just wanted to say this is a VERY NICE forum!

I've been perusing and searching for over an hour, and WOW! there is a lot of nice and useful information here.

I have been a Linux user for 8+ years; I'm not "new", but I'm far from being a pro.

The problem I am experiencing is not a new one. I usually just do a fresh install of the distro and everything is fine, but I'd rather not do that this time. I'd like to "fix" it this time, if possible.

Here goes:

I have a desktop with Windows 10 and Peppermint OS 10 installed.
Windows has been on it for a few update/upgrade cycles.
Peppermint OS 10 was installed a few months back and I've kept it up-to-date.

Yesterday, Peppermint would not start.
When powering on the computer, the GRUB menu comes up, I select Peppermint, and I get a black screen with a flashing cursor.
btw, Windows 10 runs fine.

I have my suspicions of "why" this is happening, and may have a solution to keep it from happening again, but I want to know how to get Peppermint running again first.

This computer is using EFI/UEFI.

I can't get Peppermint to run so I can't give the "inxi -Fz" results.

If I need to boot via LiveUSB and do it that way, I'd be happy to.

TIA for all help, suggestions, links to threads that I didn't see, etc  :)
« Last Edit: January 25, 2020, 10:24:22 am by 2guntom »

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Re: Peppermint OS 10 Won't Boot/Start
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2020, 08:57:56 am »
From Live USB

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peppermint@peppermint ~ $ inxi -Fz
System:    Host: peppermint Kernel: 4.18.0-18-generic x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: N/A
           Distro: Peppermint Ten
Machine:   Device: desktop System: Dell product: OptiPlex 7020 v: 01 serial: N/A
           Mobo: Dell model: 08WKV3 v: A00 serial: N/A
           UEFI: Dell v: A03 date: 01/08/2015
CPU:       Quad core Intel Core i5-4590 (-MCP-) cache: 6144 KB
           clock speeds: max: 3300 MHz 1: 3292 MHz 2: 3292 MHz 3: 3292 MHz
           4: 3292 MHz
Graphics:  Card-1: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller
           Card-2: NVIDIA GK208B [GeForce GT 710]
           Display Server: x11 (X.Org 1.20.1 )
           drivers: modesetting (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1680x1050@59.95hz, 1680x1050@59.95hz, 1920x1080@60.00hz
           OpenGL: renderer: NV106 version: 4.3 Mesa 18.2.8
Audio:     Card-1 Intel 8 Series/C220 Series High Def. Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel
           Card-2 Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel
           Card-3 NVIDIA GK208 HDMI/DP Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.18.0-18-generic
Network:   Card: Intel Ethernet Connection I217-LM driver: e1000e
           IF: eno1 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 124.2GB (9.6% used)
           ID-1: USB /dev/sda model: DISK size: 4.2GB
           ID-2: /dev/sdb model: 120GB_SSD size: 120.0GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 3.9G used: 100M (3%) fs: overlay dev: N/A
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 8.39GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sdb6
           ID-3: swap-2 size: 1.03GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/zram0
           ID-4: swap-3 size: 1.03GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/zram1
           ID-5: swap-4 size: 1.03GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/zram2
           ID-6: swap-5 size: 1.03GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/zram3
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 29.8C mobo: 27.8C gpu: 37.0
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 201 Uptime: 2 min Memory: 777.2/7882.7MB
           Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.56

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Re: Peppermint OS 10 Won't Boot/Start
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2020, 10:35:21 am »
Hey, cool! My post got approved  :D

I have run a LiveUSB and "Boot Repair". This allowed a fresh install of GRUB.

This did NOT fix the problem.

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Re: Peppermint OS 10 Won't Boot/Start
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2020, 11:23:43 am »
...The problem I am experiencing is not a new one. I usually just do a fresh install of the distro and everything is fine, but I'd rather not do that this time. I'd like to "fix" it this time, if possible.

...I have my suspicions of "why" this is happening, and may have a solution to keep it from happening again, but I want to know how to get Peppermint running again first.


The suspicion of why this happened comes from running multiple operating systems on one PC. The EFI/boot partition  gets clogged. The standard procedure of installing Windows first, then Linux, gives you a EFI/boot partition that is 100MB. If you have just Windows, that is not a problem (Windows IS your problem  :D ). But, once you add a second operating system,  100MB is too small. 100MB is really too small anyway for the FAT32 formatting... By the book, a minimum of 100MB per operating system is the minimum. Larger doesn't hurt.

https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/esp-size-guide.html

From the author of that article

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"Microsoft recommends you set aside 100 MiB for Windows. Unless you decide to get away with the separate /boot partition on Linux, then I recommend you set aside 100 MiB of space per Linux system you intend to install. Keep in mind that you should allocate some space for failed and past installations, upgrade staging, and operating/file system debris as well. There is no reason to try and squeeze down the size of the ESP to a point where it might cause issues for you in the future."

So, I'm currently shifting partitions and enlarging the esp/boot partition to larger than 100MB

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Re: (abandoned) Peppermint OS 10 Won't Boot/Start
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2020, 10:34:00 am »
After several attempts to do a Boot Repair, and reinstalling Peppermint, I purged the EFI/boot partition, Installed Xubuntu over Peppermint and ran efibootmgr.

Xubuntu booted, but no Windows.

Several attempts to repair Windows boot with no luck.

Reinstalled Windows, twice

Between attempts, purged all boot entries in bios/UEFI interface.

Windows working again.

Xubuntu LiveUSB and ran Boot Repair.

Windows and Xubuntu both in GRUB menu and both boot.

Not what I wanted, but it's what I got  :(

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Re: (abandoned) Peppermint OS 10 Won't Boot/Start
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2020, 01:25:23 pm »
try disabling secure boot before installing peppermint or whatever distro you want, also if you use the autoclean and autoremove commands be careful, do it after a reboot if a kernel upgrade gets downloaded because ive had times in the past where an old kernel gets removed and the new one mightnt work properly. that will result in a situation where you do end up at a black screen. noob move but can happen quite easily if youre not familiar with linux.
if you didnt do that try holding shift on boot and you can go into the advanced options and pick a previous kernel and see if it at least gets a bootable system
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