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I have a new toy to play with
« on: January 03, 2020, 06:38:28 am »
Hi people,
I've been given a new toy to play with that my teacher was just going to throw away in the trash.

He told me that if i wanted it, I would have to install Pep 9 respin on it since it was an old XP 32 bit system and would not probably do much more and it is very old and slow.

I have done so and this is what I have got right now.

I was left on my own to do my best with what I have learned so far and this is the best I have been able to do on my own.

These are the specs i can give and am looking for any advice for how i can do any better with this, although I think I did pretty good.

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System:    Host: gbc Kernel: 4.15.0-72-generic i686 bits: 32 gcc: 7.4.0
           Desktop: N/A Distro: Peppermint Nine
Machine:   Device: laptop System: Sony product: VGN-N365E v: C3LPHVL3 serial: N/A
           Mobo: Sony model: VAIO serial: N/A
           BIOS: Phoenix v: R0100J4 date: 02/08/2007
Battery    BAT0: charge: 48.8 Wh 99.9% condition: 48.8/48.8 Wh (100%)
           model: Sony status: Full
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core Duo T2450 (-MCP-)
           arch: Yonah rev.12 cache: 2048 KB
           flags: (nx pae sse sse2 sse3) bmips: 7979
           clock speeds: max: 2000 MHz 1: 1994 MHz 2: 1994 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel Mobile 945GM/GMS 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller
           bus-ID: 00:02.0
           Display Server: x11 (X.Org 1.19.6 ) driver: intel
           Resolution: 1280x800@59.55hz
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 945GM x86/MMX/SSE2
           version: 1.4 Mesa 19.0.8 Direct Render: Yes
Audio:     Card Intel NM10/ICH7 Family High Def. Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.15.0-72-generic
Network:   Card-1: Marvell 88E8036 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller
           driver: sky2 v: 1.30 port: 2000 bus-ID: 02:00.0
           IF: enp2s0 state: down mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR242x / AR542x Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express)
           driver: ath5k bus-ID: 06:00.0
           IF: wlp6s0 state: up mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 160.0GB (29.2% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: ST9160310AS size: 160.0GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 146G used: 44G (32%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 68.0C mobo: 68.0C
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Repos:     Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list
           deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic main restricted
           deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates main restricted
           deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic universe
           deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates universe
           deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic multiverse
           deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates multiverse
           deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-backports main restricted universe multiverse
           deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-security main restricted
           deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-security universe
           deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-security multiverse
           Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/peppermint.list
           deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/peppermintos/p9-release/ubuntu bionic main
           deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/peppermintos/p9-respin/ubuntu bionic main
Info:      Processes: 169 Uptime: 38 min Memory: 489.8/1938.3MB
           Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 7.4.0
           Client: Shell (bash 4.4.201) inxi: 2.3.56

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gbc@gbc ~ $ systemd-analyze
Startup finished in 9.406s (kernel) + 39.331s (userspace) = 48.738s
graphical.target reached after 37.368s in userspace
gbc@gbc ~ $

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gbc@gbc ~ $ systemd-analyze critical-chain
The time after the unit is active or started is printed after the "@" character.
The time the unit takes to start is printed after the "+" character.

graphical.target @37.368s
└─lightdm.service @36.333s +1.034s
  └─systemd-user-sessions.service @36.302s +12ms
    └─network.target @36.300s
      └─NetworkManager.service @27.723s +8.575s
        └─dbus.service @27.694s
          └─basic.target @27.647s
            └─sockets.target @27.647s
              └─dbus.socket @27.647s
                └─sysinit.target @27.538s
                  └─apparmor.service @21.069s +6.469s
                    └─local-fs.target @21.066s
                      └─local-fs-pre.target @21.065s
                        └─systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service @5.970s +15.095s
                          └─kmod-static-nodes.service @5.603s +364ms
                            └─systemd-journald.socket @5.600s
                              └─system.slice @5.599s
                                └─-.slice @4.889s

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gbc@gbc ~ $ gbc@gbc ~ $ systemd-analyze blame
         19.180s dev-sda1.device
         15.552s ufw.service
         15.158s systemd-journal-flush.service
         15.095s systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service
          8.575s NetworkManager.service
          8.014s mintsystem.service
          7.653s networkd-dispatcher.service
          6.540s udisks2.service
          6.469s apparmor.service
          5.215s ModemManager.service
          5.059s accounts-daemon.service
          4.758s thermald.service
          3.002s systemd-modules-load.service
          2.871s systemd-sysctl.service
          2.551s tlp.service
          2.269s keyboard-setup.service
          1.701s gpu-manager.service
          1.381s systemd-journald.service
          1.308s swapfile.swap
          1.182s wpa_supplicant.service
          1.142s polkit.service
          1.079s run-rpc_pipefs.mount
          1.034s lightdm.service
           897ms grub-common.service
           891ms systemd-random-seed.service
           881ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service
           788ms rpcbind.service
           616ms user@1000.service
           507ms rsyslog.service
           465ms ntp.service
           436ms plymouth-read-write.service
           410ms upower.service
           364ms kmod-static-nodes.service
           326ms lm-sensors.service
           322ms systemd-resolved.service
           303ms systemd-udevd.service
           246ms systemd-update-utmp.service
           222ms sys-kernel-debug.mount
           196ms systemd-remount-fs.service
           178ms plymouth-start.service
           173ms dev-mqueue.mount
           171ms systemd-udev-trigger.service
           167ms dev-hugepages.mount
           163ms setvtrgb.service
           123ms systemd-logind.service
           111ms alsa-restore.service
            60ms hddtemp.service
            47ms kerneloops.service
            22ms ureadahead-stop.service
            19ms systemd-backlight@backlight:acpi_video0.service
            16ms systemd-backlight@backlight:intel_backlight.service
            14ms console-setup.service
            12ms systemd-update-utmp-runlevel.service
            12ms nfs-config.service
            12ms systemd-user-sessions.service
             6ms sys-fs-fuse-connections.mount
             5ms sys-kernel-config.mount
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I know this thing should be in a museum but i found it fun to play with. I was 5 yrs old when this thing was brand new.

If anyone can find any fault and help me to make it even better, I am open to all suggestions.

My "heat" is at 63c right now. And the battery is a suprise, It is original battery and reports, Fully Charged Design 48.8 Wh, and Fully Charged aslo at 48.8 Wh (100%)

Thank-you all, and warm regards,

The Omen



« Last Edit: May 14, 2020, 07:03:45 pm by The Omen »

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Re: I have a new toy to play with
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2020, 02:48:05 pm »
Hi The Omen,

Nice old box you have there! You might want to open it up and clean out any "dust bunnies" from the cooling vents and the fan itself. And perhaps lubricate the fan and check to see if the compound (if there is any) between the CPU and fan/cooling element needs to be replaced with fresh stuff.  ;) Beyond that, you might try out the latest kernel 4.19.xx (at last check xx was at 92), which is still available for i386 machines.  8)   


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Re: I have a new toy to play with
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2020, 04:31:29 pm »
Hi Slim.Fatz,

I actually did check it out for dust etc. and found it very clean, The only time the temperature spikes up into the 60s celsius is when my browser is open on the forums, otherwise when just playing music or videos on it, it stays around 43 to 47c.
I dont see the 4.19 kernels in the kernels section on this Pep 9 respin though, should it be there? Is it an LTS?

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Re: I have a new toy to play with
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2020, 09:08:38 pm »
Hello The Omen,

I'm not meaning to hijack your thread it just seemed the right place to post so hope you don't mind. :-\  :)


It must be the time for giving. :)
I was gifted an old desktop computer which I immediately took apart and gave it a good dusting with my air hose.

Then I replaced the Intel Pentium 4 661 (3.6 GHz) Cedar Mill processor with an Intel Core2 Duo E4400 (2.0 GHz) Conroe processor.
       
An Nvidia GeForce 8500 GT [G86] graphics card replaced the Nvidia 6150 integrated graphics adapter.

Increased memory from 2.0 GB DDR2 to 4.0 GB DDR2 and used the 160 GB hard drive that appears to be original.

All new replacement parts were free from my spare parts box so zero cost other than my time which I've plenty of. :)

Put it all back together and installed Peppermint 9 Respin-2 (64 bit) and updated it and then installed a few bits of software and then did a few performance tweaks and here I am and it runs great. :)

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thomas@hp-pavilion ~ $ systemd-analyze
Startup finished in 5.589s (kernel) + 29.649s (userspace) = 35.238s
graphical.target reached after 29.635s in userspace
thomas@hp-pavilion ~ $


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thomas@hp-pavilion ~ $ inxi -Fxz
System:    Host: hp-pavilion Kernel: 4.15.0-72-generic x86_64 bits: 64 gcc: 7.4.0 Desktop: N/A
           Distro: Peppermint Nine
Machine:   Device: desktop System: HP-Pavilion product: GG750AV-ABA a6100y serial: N/A
           Mobo: ASUSTeK model: Lancaster v: 1.xx serial: N/A BIOS: American Megatrends v: 5.19 date: 03/04/2008
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core2 4400 (-MCP-) arch: Conroe rev.2 cache: 2048 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 ssse3) bmips: 8000
           clock speeds: max: 2000 MHz 1: 1200 MHz 2: 1219 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA G86 [GeForce 8500 GT] bus-ID: 04:00.0
           Display Server: x11 (X.Org 1.19.6 ) drivers: nouveau (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1152x720@59.97hz
           OpenGL: renderer: NV86 version: 3.3 Mesa 19.0.8 Direct Render: Yes
Audio:     Card Intel NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.15.0-72-generic
Network:   Card: Realtek RTL810xE PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller
           driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: d800 bus-ID: 02:00.0
           IF: enp2s0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 160.0GB (5.7% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: ST3160815AS size: 160.0GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 146G used: 8.5G (7%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 37.0C mobo: N/A gpu: 51.0
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 158 Uptime: 7:37 Memory: 438.0/3253.3MB Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 7.4.0
           Client: Shell (bash 4.4.201) inxi: 2.3.56
thomas@hp-pavilion ~ $


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Re: I have a new toy to play with
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2020, 09:33:08 pm »
These are the specs i can give and am looking for any advice for how i can do any better with this, although I think I did pretty good.

If it runs decent than I suggest use it as it is.

I know this thing should be in a museum but i found it fun to play with. I was 5 yrs old when this thing was brand new.

Nonsense!
Just because something is old doesn't mean it ain't still useful or capable and the old saying Linux gives new life to old hardware is still true.

I am open to all suggestions.

If you can run across some memory for dirt cheap or free and increase it to 4.0 GB that would help.

My "heat" is at 63c right now. And the battery is a suprise, It is original battery and reports, Fully Charged Design 48.8 Wh, and Fully Charged aslo at 48.8 Wh (100%)

That temp ain't hot at all for a laptop and that's great that the battery charges and works I've never been that fortunate with my gifted laptops.

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Re: I have a new toy to play with
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2020, 03:32:55 am »
I dont see the 4.19 kernels in the kernels section on this Pep 9 respin though, should it be there? Is it an LTS?

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Hi The Omen,
You can find the kernels list here;) It is, as far as I can tell, an LTS (the latest update -- as of Jan. 04, 2020 -- was on Dec. 31, 2019).  8)

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Re: I have a new toy to play with
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2020, 01:52:50 pm »
Hello 151tom and Slim.Fatz and thank you both for your reply and advice.

From what you both say, i guess I did OK then since this was the first build project I did all by myself.

About the kernel, I have decided not to "mainline" the kernel since that sounds like drug abuse to me, lol, but more because I like the idea of using the 4.15 kernel that comes with long term support and Im always told constantly, "If it aint broke, DON'T fix it"

Thanks again.

Warm Regards,

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Re: I have a new toy to play with
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2020, 04:57:09 pm »
i guess I did OK then since this was the first build project I did all by myself with no help

Yes you did A-OK and the more you do the better you become. (practice makes the master)

About the kernel, I have decided not to "mainline" the kernel since that sounds like drug abuse to me, lol, but more because I like the idea of using the 4.15 kernel that comes with long term support and Im always told constantly, "If it aint broke, DON'T fix it"

I prefer the LTS kernel over the HWE short term stack kernels as the LTS kernel seems to work better with the old Frankenstein builds I'm using.

the thing works pretty good for what it is.

Check ebay in the far back pages for laptop memory I find it dirt cheap and I'm talking for $5.00 to $10.00 a stick just depends on what it is.

Bottom line if it is working decent than use it as it is. :)


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Re: I have a new toy to play with
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2020, 06:51:44 pm »
Hi 151tom,

I dont even have a bank account yet so trying to order things like ram on-line is a little out of my league for now.

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Re: I have a new toy to play with
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2020, 03:38:03 am »
Beyond that, you might try out the latest kernel 4.19.xx (at last check xx was at 92), which is still available for i386 machines.  8)   

I've had good fortune using the Linux 5.3 kernel, on my ancient doorstop i386 Dell Dimension 3000.

I'm soooo close to a 10 sec boot, it isn't even funny. Well, maybe a little funny...  ;D