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New SSD Slower Than Mechanical Drive [SOLVED]
« on: November 21, 2019, 09:12:17 pm »
I just installed a new Crucial SSD cloned from a mechanical drive with Peppermint 10.  It seems run slower than my old drive.  Any thoughts how to speed it up?  Thanks.  See my system specs:
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System:    Host: jls-X130e-P10 Kernel: 5.0.0-36-generic x86_64 bits: 64 gcc: 7.4.0
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           clock speeds: max: 1650 MHz 1: 1646 MHz 2: 1317 MHz
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Network:   Card-1: Realtek RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter
           driver: rtl8192ce port: 3000 bus-ID: 01:00.0
           IF: wlp1s0 state: up mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR8151 v2.0 Gigabit Ethernet
           driver: atl1c v: 1.0.1.1-NAPI port: 2000 bus-ID: 02:00.0
           IF: enp2s0 state: down mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 500.1GB (3.9% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: CT500MX500SSD1 size: 500.1GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 86G used: 18G (23%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda5
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 60.0C mobo: 0.0C gpu: 61.0
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: 569
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           deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/peppermintos/p10-release/ubuntu bionic main
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           deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/teejee2008/ppa/ubuntu bionic main
Info:      Processes: 176 Uptime: 32 min Memory: 1384.9/7571.8MB
           Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 7.4.0
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Re: New SSD Slower Than Mechanical Drive
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2019, 01:43:41 am »
Hello jlschwartz, The problem with SSD's is that they need time to adjust, when did you clone it over to SSD? Plus I wonder because where you cloned it from old spinning drive, that it replicated the speed of the drive too? Could it do that?  what I have found here could be the answer that your SSD was not aligned properly before cloning. Link Below

https://www.reddit.com/r/techsupport/comments/32ws3k/very_slow_ssd_after_cloning_os_from_hdd/  ;D
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Re: New SSD Slower Than Mechanical Drive
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2019, 03:28:29 am »
I have never had to wait for any of my SSD's to adjust ?

The problem may be cloning, that is not to say others havn't,   I have never successfully "cloned" an install.

For me clean and hose and then report back is it still slow.

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Re: New SSD Slower Than Mechanical Drive
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2019, 08:48:15 am »
Can  you define "slower" .. do you just mean boot times ?

I'm gonna guess something changed in the cloning process, such as UUID's .. either do as Zeb suggests and do a full fresh install (after clearing the SSD by creating a new GPT partition table in GParted run from a LiveUSB), or post the output from:
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sudo fdisk -l
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sudo blkid
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cat /etc/fstab
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df -h
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cat /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume
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dmesg | egrep -i "error|fail|warn"
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systemd-analyze blame
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systemd-analyze critical-chain
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Re: New SSD Slower Than Mechanical Drive
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2019, 09:18:26 am »
Can  you define "slower" .. do you just mean boot times ?

I was just about to ask the same question, but when I went to submit it, SMF said you beat me to it   :D

@jlschwartz: Do you mean boot times are slow - or things are lagging out while you're in a session - etc?

Also, which cloning software did you use???

If you used the free cloning software that came with the Crucial SSD - I've read many, many, complaints about it NOT cloning the drive correctly - mostly from winders users. As a matter of fact, it's sort of a universal criticism - great drive, but crappy cloning software...

I must say, the only cloning software that has ever worked for me, every time, is Clonezilla.

IMO, the Clonezilla UI has always been a kludge and it's counterintuitive, but I haven't found anything else that actually WORKS better.

That said, I had a hella time installing PM10 on my Asus Eee PC. Luckily, before I started the PM10 install, I had cloned my old PM ver using Clonezilla. LoL.

I must have restored my original clone/backup 5 times, with success, before I finally got PM10 working. It was very reassuring to know that I hadn't wiped out years of haxoring, if it turned out that PM10 wouldn't work on my Eee PC

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Re: New SSD Slower Than Mechanical Drive
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2019, 10:13:51 am »
Thanks for all the ideas.  It turns out the UUID for the swap partition was not the same as blkid.  I changed that and it made a huge difference.  :)  I think I'm ok now.  For what it's worth, Clonezilla was used to clone the drive.  This is an old Lenovo x130e laptop that only has Sata II so it will never be as fast as Sata III but at least it's a bit faster.  Before I made this change it took over a minute for the bar to go across on the starting screen.  Now the starting screen flies by.   ;D

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Re: New SSD Slower Than Mechanical Drive
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2019, 11:00:21 am »
Great news :)

Can you please remember to mark the topic (SOLVED) .. TIA ;)
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Re: New SSD Slower Than Mechanical Drive
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2019, 03:28:20 pm »
I must say, the only cloning software that has ever worked for me, every time, is Clonezilla.
IMO, the Clonezilla UI has always been a kludge and it's counterintuitive, but I haven't found anything else that actually WORKS better.
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Re: New SSD Slower Than Mechanical Drive [SOLVED]
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2019, 05:21:38 pm »
Yep, perfect tool for cloning to a drive that's equal to or larger in capacity .. but I've personally never managed to get it to clone to a smaller drive adjusting partition sizes on the fly (even where the used space should have left enough room .. if that made sense).

I'm not saying that function never works, just that it's never worked for me .. IIRC that function is still marked as 'experimental' (or it was the last time I tried it).
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