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Re: Saving for a brand new desktop pc.
« Reply #15 on: August 29, 2014, 09:57:37 pm »
You may want to consider this source as well:
http://www.amazon.com/Dell-745-Optiplex-Computer-Professional/dp/B00ABMTV98/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1409337885&sr=8-1&keywords=dell+745+optiplex+desktop+computer
I ran Peppermint 3 and 4 on a very similar, if not identical, 745 without any issues.

hi this looks good and great price, so you think peppermint 5 will run on this???
also just wanna make sure once i buy the computer which version i should run
i would assume 64 bit?
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Re: Saving for a brand new desktop pc.
« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2014, 08:06:04 am »
AFAIK, the ATI Radeon X300 is no longer supported by the proprietary ATI fglrx driver, but is by the open source "radeon" driver.

So how well 3D acceleration works is anyones guess.

According to Ubuntu 3D is "fully supported" in the open source driver for the X300:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
but as that page says, it may not be up to what you'd expect from the proprietary driver.

I've seen cases where the open source radeon drivers have caused heavy CPU load, and others where they've not put any strain on the CPU and actually have performed better than the proprietary driver .. so as you can see there's no guarantee here.

But as long as it has a PCIe slot, you can always add another card (?) ;)

According to this:
http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/optix/en/opti_745techspecs.pdf
they have a PCIe x16 slot .. but if I were you I'd check with the seller that it's possible to add an aftermarket "PCI express" graphics card.
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Re: Saving for a brand new desktop pc.
« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2014, 08:22:33 am »
Yes it is possible and they do make a video card specifically for the 745 dell because of its height...  I bought 745's on ebay with the card and without the card and they were all cheaper then the one you are looking at at walmart...  so much cheaper you can afford to put any size hard drive or ram in them and still not reach 200 bucks... I seen 745's off lease selling for 29 bucks on ebay and 17 shipping...  Only reason i steered you toward the 100 dollar one was because it had a bigger hard drive and the 3.4 ghz processor...  but keep your eye on ebay they have deals going there daily on these machines...
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Re: Saving for a brand new desktop pc.
« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2014, 08:40:27 am »
The problem with the CPu is that it may have a higher clock speed, but it ISN'T a faster processor.

it's a Pentium D 945 (3.4Ghz) as opposed to a Core2Duo E4300 (1.8Ghz) .. the E4300 outperforms the older D945 in every way (in all the benchmarks I've seen by roughly 20%), granted not a huge amount, but it's also going to be considerably cheaper to run, and newer tech.
http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/512/Intel_Core_2_Duo_E4300_vs_Intel_Pentium_D_945.html

have a look for the D950 (roughly the same performance as the D945), and the E4300 in this list::
https://cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=Intel+Pentium+D+950+%40+3.40GHz&id=1129
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Re: Saving for a brand new desktop pc.
« Reply #19 on: August 30, 2014, 09:06:34 am »
Personally I wouldn't even be looking for a dual core anymore these days...  I know they are cheap but so are the I3 and I5 dells on ebay...  for about 250 bucks or 50 bucks more then the dual core he posted at walmart he can have an 5 core.....  why go 2 core when you can have 5 core for 50 bucks more...  he should shop around is all I am saying....   ;)

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And if the core 2 duo is better at 1.8 ghz I still would not pay walmart 200 bucks for it, when ebay sells it for 29 bucks and 17 bucks shipping....
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Re: Saving for a brand new desktop pc.
« Reply #20 on: August 30, 2014, 09:20:55 am »
If I were planning on running Win8 I'd agree with ya but a dual core will run Peppermint admirably :) (I have PM5 64bit on a dual core P4 and it's screamingly fast, compared to Win7/8 on the latest hardwware .. in fact it's screamingly fast period)  .. but out of the 2, and with only a $30 (what roughly 15 - 20) difference, I'd go for the E4300 with the Intel GMA3000 graphics.

More cores are irrelevant for most usage cases .. unless the app is specifically designed to use them, or you multi-task a lot.

But sure, an i3/i5 would be even better.
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Re: Saving for a brand new desktop pc.
« Reply #21 on: August 30, 2014, 02:05:58 pm »
ill take around it seems the dell i originally wanted would be ok right???
if thats the case may be i will just go that route a little more ram and more storage
and a on button on the outside (being its a desktop not a laptop) are the main features
i wanted and im not even sure if ram really matters being i dont run so high powered programs.
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Re: Saving for a brand new desktop pc.
« Reply #22 on: August 30, 2014, 05:08:37 pm »
im really liking this package with monitor for under 400
http://www.dell.com/us/p/inspiron-3646-small-desktop/pd?oc=fdcwnt7101m&model_id=inspiron-3646-small-desktop

if anyone can do some research and confirm all is well with this and peppermint 5 i think im going to get this around october.
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Re: Saving for a brand new desktop pc.
« Reply #23 on: August 30, 2014, 06:11:40 pm »
that is a celeron you know....  not a full pentium....
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Re: Saving for a brand new desktop pc.
« Reply #24 on: August 30, 2014, 06:16:59 pm »
basically im just looking for something to record some music, watch hulu /netflix
and surf the net and listen to music. I don't need anything super powerful really.
do you think this would be good for that?
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Re: Saving for a brand new desktop pc.
« Reply #25 on: August 30, 2014, 06:59:48 pm »
All I can do is point you at this again:
http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201403-14891/
which suggests 12.04 installes perfectly well on that system with the J1800 Celeron.

So there's a VERY good chance 14.04 will install/work on it too (but no cast iron guarantees).

As for "how well", well that's subjective so you're asking people to say "yeah it'll be fine" when they have no idea what YOU would call fine .. opening themselves up to being slated if you're disappointed.

People will give you as much assistance and info as they can .. but they're unlikely to make the decision for you ;)
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Re: Saving for a brand new desktop pc.
« Reply #26 on: August 30, 2014, 07:25:51 pm »
thanks any other suggestions for a desktop? basically i want something with slightly more higher performance (not too much more)
and bigger storage. Im not doing anything crazy honestly school work, surfing, recording music (mostly running audacity, and using rakarak
for sound effects) listening to music, or watching  hulu/netflix/(this is where i want better performance honestly). and imy budget is about 300
but i can go up to 400 if i have to but would rather less, and i'm set on peppermint 5 being my os thats one thing i'm certain on.
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Re: Saving for a brand new desktop pc.
« Reply #27 on: August 30, 2014, 07:31:28 pm »
im over all happy with how my dell latitude d630 laptop works with pepprmint 5 and this thing
is from 2007-2008 so i would assume something newer would even run smoother/faster?
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Re: Saving for a brand new desktop pc.
« Reply #28 on: August 30, 2014, 07:39:32 pm »
how about this one its a core 2 duo which mark has said are faster then the pentium D its a 3.16ghz 4 gig ram and a 250 gig hard drive...
and the price is right too...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Optiplex-960-Core-2-Duo-3-16-Ghz-DCNE-Computer-w-250GB-HD-DVDRW-Working-WOW-/390920187348?pt=Desktop_PCs&hash=item5b04a8add4

Or this one which is refurbed and comes with win 7 cost is a tad higher though...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Optiplex-960-SFF-Core-2-Duo-E8400-3-0GHz-4GB-160GB-Windows-7-A1751-/380963044733?pt=Desktop_PCs&hash=item58b32abd7d
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Re: Saving for a brand new desktop pc.
« Reply #29 on: August 30, 2014, 08:22:41 pm »
not bad would some mind giving me a list of a few models for reference
than when i have the money i can see where their available (as ebay may expire or sell by the time i do).
thanks again!!! the first one is more along the lines of what im looking for i think.
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