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Incomplete bootup
« on: November 03, 2019, 11:47:34 am »
i guys
I've just installed PM10 to a friends HP laptop
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and although it runs well it's a bit slow to boot (1min 10 secs) from post screen to login

It's not unbearably slow but  think it could be faster so I ran systemd-analyze blame to see if anything showed up and I got the following output

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gordon@gordon-HP-620 ~ $ systemd-analyze blame
Bootup is not yet finished. Please try again later.
gordon@gordon-HP-620 ~ $

it doesn't seem to clear even as much as 30 mins after boot

I then ran top from the terminal and it showed plymouthd still running which I don't think is right

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  PID USER      PR  NI    VIRT    RES    SHR S  %CPU %MEM     TIME+ COMMAND           
 2253 gordon    20   0 2631840 176400 116936 S  14.3  2.9   2:04.28 Web Content       
  749 root      20   0  502652  49592  32312 S   6.0  0.8   0:39.98 Xorg             
  423 root      20   0  152104  52692   9280 S   5.3  0.9   1:09.97 plymouthd         
 2153 gordon    20   0 3101752 283992 146420 S   5.0  4.7   1:08.87 firefox     

I tried killing plymouthd but it made no difference

any help would be much appreciated

Graeme





« Last Edit: November 03, 2019, 12:03:36 pm by emegra »
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Re: (C)omplete bootup
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2019, 12:01:08 pm »
When Plymouth hangs on a machine, I simply mask it.

On certain machines, masking Plymouths makes the boot screen smaller. But, everything looks normal after it boots.

You might investigate this page: https://is.gd/7QMjNT

I haven't tried any of those workarounds - masking Plymouth at boot works for me - but they might help   ;)


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Re: Incomplete bootup
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2019, 12:22:02 pm »
Just realized...

I wrote about this, in July: https://is.gd/B1Begr

Might want to read that thread, too   8)




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Re: Incomplete bootup
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2019, 12:22:31 pm »
Hi emegra and VinDSL, Is this the masking that you are talking about?

 
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sudo systemctl mask plymouth-quit-wait.service

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Re: Incomplete bootup
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2019, 12:26:50 pm »
We were keyboarding at the same time. (see above)









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Re: Incomplete bootup
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2019, 01:38:47 pm »
Ok guys that sorted the plymouthd problem thanks it's still taking a while to boot up I notice running systemd-analyze blame nmbd.service is taking 1min 30secs

any ideas if that's normal ?




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Re: Incomplete bootup
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2019, 01:49:37 pm »
Does he require samba ?
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Re: Incomplete bootup
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2019, 01:51:19 pm »
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Does he require samba ?

No it's really only used for internet browsing and maybe email




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Re: Incomplete bootup
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2019, 01:56:42 pm »
SSD & ditch NM for WiCD...  ;)








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Re: Incomplete bootup
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2019, 01:56:53 pm »
Try uninstalling samba
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sudo apt-get remove --purge samba system-config-samba
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Yeah .. SSD :)
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Re: Incomplete bootup
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2019, 02:07:53 pm »
I've been having great luck with Crucial MX500 SSDs:  https://is.gd/0APJrp

Prices have dropped dramatically lately, and they have integrated power loss immunity *

Just saying...  ;)


* 5-year warranty too
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Re: Incomplete bootup
« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2019, 02:16:44 pm »
Well that's made a difference it's shaved roughly 20 secs off the boot time so it's acceptable, one odd thing I was gonna test that apt-daily service workaround we were discussing recently thinking this would be an ideal machine to test it,  but apt-daily.service doesn't show up anywhere in systemd-analyze blame




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Re: Incomplete bootup
« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2019, 04:57:31 pm »
Hi emegra, My teacher has now started to allow me to assist in building Peppermint builds on old computers that he donates to elderly people who need to be in touch with their relatives and friends across the U.S.A.

I just ran across this same issue regarding the apt daily thing and he told me this will effect the update manager.

He helped me try the so-called work arounds and no matter what we did, they did not work. we tried the work arounds for the timer as well as the service.

After all the work arounds failed to work, He then instructed me to use this script in the terminal:
 
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sudo systemctl mask apt-daily.service
He told me this will stop apt daily from startup which was taking almost 2 minutes all by itself in startup time, but also said that updating this particular computer after applying the "mask",  will now require manual updates from the "Update Manger" on this old 32 bit Sony Viao computer from now on and we just have to make sure that the old man that is now going to be using it, is aware of this and will update manually from now on is all.

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Re: Incomplete bootup
« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2019, 07:45:49 pm »
I've been having great luck with Crucial MX500 SSDs:  https://is.gd/0APJrp

Prices have dropped dramatically lately, and they have integrated power loss immunity *

Just saying...  ;)


* 5-year warranty too

Blimey oh Riley these have come down in price, just ordered 1TB one from Amazon UK for £95.50 twin this up with a 2TB SSD Hybrid gaming drive for home folder be fantastic, especially if you have a gaming PC with Pep on like I do, have a 2TB gaming SSD hybrid twinned with a 250GB SSD for booting Pep.
Prices have really lowered over this past year, I can remember when they were asking for 600 odd pounds for one of these. Hopefully the M.2 drives will eventually come down in price? Only problem with M.2 drives or what I can see is you have to have quite a bit cooling, over the top of them. That's what's scared me into not getting any, as my ASROCK B450M Pro 4 has two M.2 slots, yes they're faster but draw power off your board, though same tech as SSD is the power draw that much? I'm glad Crucial ones have come down in price, as they are one of the leading pioneers of SSD tech and memory especially Ram sticks, nearly all my computers had crucial memory in them, especially the DDR3 days.
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