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[Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
« on: September 03, 2019, 08:39:39 pm »
Hello forums,

I'm curious if there is any advantage of using Peppermint 10 over Peppermint 9.

Thanks.
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Re: Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2019, 04:55:48 am »
Bragging rights ??  ;D

Seriously, not that much of an advantage, although there are a few things that you might prefer. But rather than list them here just go to this page to read the changes.

BTW, you might prefer to wait a little bit longer because rumor has it that Peppermint 10.5 (not the official name -- actually it will probably be called Peppermint 10 Respin or something similar) will soon be released !!  ;)

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Re: Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2019, 07:05:12 am »
Hello Slim Fatz,

Cool sounds like like good advice.

I'm using Peppermint 9 Respin now and it works great.


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Re: Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2019, 10:35:51 am »
Hello forums,

I'm curious if there is any advantage of using Peppermint 10 over Peppermint 9.

Thanks.

Probably not the answer you're looking for, but...

The advantage for me is - P10 "kicks the can down the road," so to speak. When a new ver is released, it extends machine support for x-amount of years. I currently have 'daily drivers' running on top of P7, P9, and P10. 

Really, I don't feel a need to upgrade Peppermint, until it quits doing what I need it to do - for instance, when I can't update my browsers, because the kernel or depends are too old.

P7 will be the next to go. When that happens, I'll upgrade it to P10, P11, P12 or whatevs...  ;)

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Re: Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2019, 11:49:06 am »
Hello VinDSL,


Peppermint 9 and Peppermint 10 are both 18.04 based so can kicking down the road should be the same imo.

Yeah I'm not much into jumping into the latest release unless there is something new and  I really need it.

One of the things I like about Peppermint is that it pretty much from release to end doesn't change.  8)

I don't believe I've ever run an OS Linux or Windows where I couldn't update to a current browser.  :-\

Perhaps I'll take Slim Fatz advice and wait for Peppermint 10 Respin and install it on a different desktop.  :)


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Re: Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2019, 01:24:16 pm »
Or if you're already on PM9 you might wanna read this
https://forum.peppermintos.com/index.php/topic,8442.0.html

I wouldn't really suggest anyone nuke and pave a working PM9 to install PM10 .. just manually upgrade it if you want.

The only time I'd suggest PM10 over PM9 is if you're nuking and paving for some other reason anyway.
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Re: Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2019, 02:24:28 pm »
Hello PCNetSpec,


I had seen that how to post whilst grazing the forum.

Personally I see no need for moving from Peppermint 9 to Peppermint 10 unless Peppermint 10 is more secure due to the HWE Stack Kernel.

Peppermint 9 Respin is running great on my 12 year old desktop and I was just curious if Peppermint 10 offered any advantage over Peppermint 9 and that was my only reason.

I'll just keep Peppermint 9 as it's working good and I like staying with a working Linux Distro.  :)


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Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2019, 06:46:20 am »
Thanks to everyone.

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Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2019, 10:10:14 am »
Thanks to everyone.

Welcome.

Incidentally, last night I updated the kernel in my 'Road Warrior' lappy => Linux 5.2.x

Peppermint 7 lives, to fight another day  ;D
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Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2019, 10:58:43 am »
Incidentally, last night I updated the kernel in my 'Road Warrior' lappy => Linux 5.2.x

Peppermint 7 lives, to fight another day  ;D
You updated Peppermint 7 to the linux-5-2-kernel.

How does everything run since Peppermint 7 I believe is 16.04 Xenial based and an older kernel.


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Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2019, 11:27:10 pm »
Incidentally, last night I updated the kernel in my 'Road Warrior' lappy => Linux 5.2.x

Peppermint 7 lives, to fight another day  ;D
You updated Peppermint 7 to the linux-5-2-kernel.

How does everything run since Peppermint 7 I believe is 16.04 Xenial based and an older kernel.

I've only been running PM7 on top of Linux 5.2.11  for 24 hrs, but no complaints, so far.

11.8 second boot, UEFI/Secure Boot enabled, triple-booted with W10 (stable & skip ahead) and it's flying...

PM7 / Linux 5.2.11  By The Numbers
╭─vindsl@Chi-You ~ 
╰─$ [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo YUP UEFI || echo NOPE BIOS
YUP UEFI
╭─vindsl@Chi-You ~ 
╰─$ systemd-analyze time                                       
Startup finished in 5.292s (firmware) + 1.810s (loader) + 3.253s (kernel) + 1.473s (userspace) = 11.830s
╭─vindsl@Chi-You ~ 
╰─$ systemd-analyze critical-chain                             
The time after the unit is active or started is printed after the "@" character.
The time the unit takes to start is printed after the "+" character.

graphical.target @1.465s
└─multi-user.target @1.465s
  └─mintsystem.service @1.168s +296ms
    └─basic.target @1.134s
      └─sockets.target @1.134s
        └─cups.socket @1.134s
          └─sysinit.target @1.131s
            └─systemd-update-utmp.service @1.021s +13ms
              └─systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service @971ms +47ms
                └─local-fs.target @971ms
                  └─boot-efi.mount @912ms +57ms
                    └─systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2duuid-EA02\x2d59E2.service @526ms +378ms
                      └─dev-disk-by\x2duuid-EA02\x2d59E2.device @522ms
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╰─$ inxi -Fxxxz -v 7                                           
System:    Host: Chi-You Kernel: 5.2.11-050211-generic x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 9.2.1)
           Desktop: N/A info: xfce4-panel dm: lightdm Distro: Peppermint Seven
Machine:   System: Dell (portable) product: Latitude E6430 v: 01 Chassis: type: 9
           Mobo: Dell model: N/A Bios: Dell v: A23 date: 11/30/2018
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core i7-3540M (-HT-MCP-) cache: 4096 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 11961
           clock speeds: min/max: 1200/3700 MHz 1: 1222 MHz 2: 1277 MHz 3: 1284 MHz 4: 1201 MHz
Memory:    No dmidecode memory data: try newer kernel.
Graphics:  Card: Intel 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:0166
           Display Server: X.Org 1.19.6 drivers: (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1366x768@60.01hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Ivybridge Mobile GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 18.0.5 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card Intel 7 Series/C216 Family High Definition Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:1e20
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k5.2.11-050211-generic
Network:   Card-1: Intel 82579LM Gigabit Network Connection (Lewisville)
           driver: e1000e v: 3.2.6-k port: f080 bus-ID: 00:19.0 chip-ID: 8086:1502
           IF: eno1 state: down mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Intel Wireless 7260 driver: iwlwifi bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:08b1
           IF: wlp2s0 state: up mac: <filter>
           WAN IP: <filter> IF: wlp2s0 ip-v4: <filter> ip-v6: <filter>
           IF: eno1 ip-v4: N/A ip-v6: N/A
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 570.1GB (5.0% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: Samsung_SSD_850 size: 250.1GB serial: S2R5NB0HB27540R temp: 0C
           ID-2: /dev/sdb model: Hitachi_HTS72323 size: 320.1GB serial: 081006FC1400NEG6P7JD temp: 33C
           Optical: No optical drives detected.
Partition: ID-1: / size: 20G used: 6.2G (34%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda6
           label: (PM7R) Root uuid: 78aa9438-5bec-4c95-a1fe-f78d384264c8
           ID-2: /home size: 59G used: 20G (36%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda7
           label: (PM7R) Home uuid: d4010a0b-d14f-422b-9aee-b5c1ebca8589
           ID-3: /boot/efi size: 95M used: 38M (40%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/sda2
           label: UEFI-SHARED uuid: EA02-59E2
           ID-4: swap-1 size: 0.54GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda8
           label: (PM7R) Swap uuid: 46de3fd8-221d-4634-9270-b35aaa8633ed
RAID:      System: supported: N/A
           No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
           Unused Devices: none
Unmounted: ID-1: /dev/sda1 size: 0.47G fs: NTFS label: N/A uuid: 0450E13C50E134D8
           ID-2: /dev/sda3 size: 0.02G label: N/A uuid: N/A
           ID-3: /dev/sda4 size: 124.22G fs: NTFS label: Windows 10 uuid: 5C9A03B09A03862C
           ID-4: /dev/sda5 size: 0.51G fs: NTFS label: N/A uuid: 88B2867BB2866D8E
           ID-5: /dev/sda9 size: 29.74G fs: NTFS label: N/A uuid: 6246EEDE46EEB249
           ID-6: /dev/sda10 size: 0.50G fs: NTFS label: N/A uuid: 14B442DAB442BE4C
           ID-7: /dev/sdb1 size: 1.57G fs: NTFS label: TOSHIBA SYSTEM VOLUME uuid: A08A36B48A3686B6
           ID-8: /dev/sdb2 size: 104.86G fs: NTFS label: MICROSOFT VISTA uuid: D81A3E541A3E303C
           ID-9: /dev/sdb5 size: 4.10G fs: ext4 label: N/A uuid: ed3ae3a4-4d14-4de4-8f9f-c55e105fba9e
           ID-10: /dev/sdb6 size: 10.24G
           fs: ext4 label: MINT 7 GLORIA uuid: a356a6b1-b517-49f6-b7b7-9a41a4d39aff
           ID-11: /dev/sdb7 size: 92.48G fs: ext4 label: N/A uuid: 1ea4d171-4b5e-427a-8263-bd26e6d9a96c
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 44.0C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 172 Uptime: 8 min Memory: 514.4/7876.8MB
           Init: systemd v: 229 runlevel: 5 default: 2 Gcc sys: 5.4.0
           Client: Shell (zsh 5.1.1 running in x-terminal-emul) inxi: 2.2.35
╭─vindsl@Chi-You ~ 
╰─$
[close]

PM7 is still perfectly usable; and, my professional career lives or dies by this lappy  ;)


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Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2019, 05:34:26 am »
Cool. 8)

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Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2019, 08:21:12 am »
Still my favourite Peppermint wallpaper of all time :)

Dunno why .. possibly just the pinky/peach tone to the sunset (and the contrast of the bright red rounded housebrick) kinda lifts the soul
(hot damn, got all mushy/poetic there for a sec)
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Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2019, 09:42:00 am »
Still my favourite Peppermint wallpaper of all time :)

#MeToo

It warms the cockles of my heart, every time I fire it up  :)


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Re: [Solved] Peppermint 9 vs Peppermint 10
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2019, 10:34:58 am »
You got cockles on your heart :-\ .. you wanna see a doctor about that my friend ;)

Just outa interest
https://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/books/what-are-the-cockles-of-your-heart-and-why-do-they-need-warming-20050212-gdkogx.html
(well you have to ask don't you .. it's one of those weird sayings I've wondered about every time I've used it / heard it used)
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