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Re: Laptop recommendations
« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2019, 07:05:50 pm »
Dell Latitude 'E' Series
but don't buy the 1 usb models, one thinks it will work out, but i miss a second one with my 6320.
second, i had a vinyl like surface surrounding the touchpad, palmrest. sticky not fine surface and scraped it all of with a razorblade.
does not look pretty, but feels much better

That rubbery stuff on the palmrest I'm pretty sure is non-standard, ie. something sprayed on a lot of them during the refurb process to make the palmrest **look** newer .. and yes I agree it's horrible.

I've bought some that don't have it, and some (refurbed) that do .. tellingly I've never bought a replacement (new) palmrest that comes with that horrible rubbery coating .. hence why I think it's non-standard, and applied by some in the refurb process to cover worn shiny parts of the palmrest.

I haven't seen a 6320 with only a single USB port, but then again I've never owned a 6320 (so I'm only going on pictures) .. my 6520 has the same number of USB ports as the 6530 and 6540 (4 counting the dual purpose eSATA/USB ports), the only difference is the 6x20 (2012) models only have USB2.0 where the later have USB3.0 (but then I add USB3.0 to the 6520 via an Xpress card)
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Re: Laptop recommendations
« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2019, 10:36:35 am »
dell xps is a great laptop for linux but some like mine dont have hdmi or ethernet ports, i had to install my wifi drivers from a downloaded deb file once i figured out which ones i needed. a pain but worth the effort imo

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Re: Laptop recommendations
« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2019, 03:54:23 pm »
Do ya think 70 seconds is a good boot up time for my E6430?

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         14.768s dev-sda5.device
         11.733s networkd-dispatcher.service
         10.809s mintsystem.service
         10.415s snapd.service
         10.333s ModemManager.service
          8.843s udisks2.service
          7.819s accounts-daemon.service
          7.514s NetworkManager-wait-online.service
          6.054s thermald.service
          5.894s systemd-journal-flush.service
          5.808s rpcbind.service
          5.708s nmbd.service
          5.664s NetworkManager.service
          5.417s pppd-dns.service
          5.293s gpu-manager.service
          5.292s fstrim.service
          5.292s rsyslog.service
          5.021s smbd.service

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Re: Laptop recommendations
« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2019, 06:10:15 pm »
Yeah, that's good.

For comparison, here's my 'Road Warrior' i7 E6430 (PM 7 on top of Linux 5.3)

It's dead-nuts dependable, too (I live or die by this lappy)...    :)

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╭─vindsl@Chi-You ~  
╰─$ inxi -SM                 
System:    Host: Chi-You Kernel: 5.3.0-18-generic x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: N/A Distro: Peppermint Seven
Machine:   System: Dell (portable) product: Latitude E6430 v: 01
           Mobo: Dell model: N/A Bios: Dell v: A23 date: 11/30/2018

╭─vindsl@Chi-You ~ 
╰─$ systemd-analyze time       
Startup finished in 5.712s (firmware) + 10.670s (loader) + 3.288s (kernel) + 1.535s (userspace) = 21.207s

╭─vindsl@Chi-You ~ 
╰─$ systemd-analyze blame | more
           944ms plymouth-start.service
           408ms systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2duuid-EA02\x2d59E2.service
           393ms dev-sda6.device
           293ms mintsystem.service
           254ms wicd.service
           229ms plymouth-read-write.service
           217ms console-setup.service
           216ms networking.service
           189ms ModemManager.service
           172ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service
           157ms openipmi.service
           156ms accounts-daemon.service
           152ms upower.service
           143ms lightdm.service
           100ms plymouth-quit-wait.service
            99ms systemd-logind.service
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Re: Laptop recommendations
« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2019, 08:03:50 pm »
Do ya think 70 seconds is a good boot up time for my E6430?

Erm not really...
(not terrible for an HDD, but not great either)

You seem to have a bit of a slow HDD (all the slow timings seem related to I/O .. aka. disk reads/writes)

Want it to fly (like VinDSL's) ? .. get an SSD ;)



Just outa interest, can you post the output from:
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blkid
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the contents of your
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Re: Laptop recommendations
« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2019, 08:59:24 pm »
Want it to fly (like VinDSL's) ? .. get an SSD ;)

I can make this thing boot faster - probably 10 second-ish, but I don't treat it as a toy - like my other machines.

This is a luggable work machine, and I depend on it when I'm 1000's of miles away from my abode.

Yes, I have an SSD in here, as my primary drive. It's triple booted with 2 vers of winders 10 (stable/skip ahead).

You can keep your HD, if you want. I replaced my optical drive with a HD caddy, and stuck an old spinner in there.

Actually, I bought a 1.0 TB spinner, for the caddy, and installed the old Toshiba HD to see if the caddy worked, but never installed the TravelStar, when it arrived. It's still sitting in the shipping envelope. LoL

Anyway, yes, a Sammy SSD will make a huge difference. Here's my current drive config, if you're interested:

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╭─vindsl@Chi-You ~  
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Drives:    HDD Total Size: 570.1GB (4.8% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: Samsung_SSD_850 size: 250.1GB
           ID-2: /dev/sdb model: Hitachi_HTS72323 size: 320.1GB
           Optical: No optical drives detected.
Unmounted: ID-1: /dev/sda1 size: 0.47G label: N/A uuid: 0450E13C50E134D8
           ID-2: /dev/sda3 size: 0.02G label: N/A uuid: N/A
           ID-3: /dev/sda4 size: 124.22G
           label: (W10P) Alpha uuid: 5C9A03B09A03862C
           ID-4: /dev/sda5 size: 0.51G label: Recovery uuid: 88B2867BB2866D8E
           ID-5: /dev/sda9 size: 29.74G
           label: (W10P) Stable uuid: 6246EEDE46EEB249
           ID-6: /dev/sda10 size: 0.50G label: N/A uuid: 14B442DAB442BE4C
           ID-7: /dev/sdb1 size: 1.57G
           label: TOSHIBA SYSTEM VOLUME uuid: A08A36B48A3686B6
           ID-8: /dev/sdb2 size: 104.86G
           label: MICROSOFT VISTA uuid: D81A3E541A3E303C
           ID-9: /dev/sdb5 size: 4.10G
           label: N/A uuid: ed3ae3a4-4d14-4de4-8f9f-c55e105fba9e
           ID-10: /dev/sdb6 size: 10.24G
           label: MINT 7 GLORIA uuid: a356a6b1-b517-49f6-b7b7-9a41a4d39aff
           ID-11: /dev/sdb7 size: 92.48G
           label: N/A uuid: 1ea4d171-4b5e-427a-8263-bd26e6d9a96c
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« Last Edit: October 28, 2019, 09:05:41 pm by VinDSL, Reason: Addendum »

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Re: Laptop recommendations
« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2019, 11:35:18 pm »
As VinDSL say's, I wasn't suggesting you completely throw out the HDD, just get an SSD for the / drive, then use something like this:-

https://www.amazon.co.uk/EHZ-Shop-2-5-inch-Replacement-Modular-Faceplate/dp/B07CMQY3X9

to bung the HDD into, and use it for storage (mounted as /home .. or using symlinks to a DATA partition)

Personally I usually go for the more expensive branded ones (Newmodeus), but I also have a cheap one and they both work .. the cheaper one just tends to take more pulling if/when you want to remove it (ie. it gets stuck sometimes). That said, I never remove them anyway, I mean what use is an optical drive these days.
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Re: Laptop recommendations
« Reply #22 on: October 29, 2019, 12:10:07 am »
https://www.amazon.co.uk/EHZ-Shop-2-5-inch-Replacement-Modular-Faceplate/dp/B07CMQY3X9

[...] what use is an optical drive these days.

Yup. That's exactly what I bought - with a different (re-branded) name. I can tell it's the same by the decals.

I paid $9.42 USD for it, on eBay in 2017. I just looked it up in my purchase history. And, it's still working a treat.

I H-A-T-E-D that OEM optical drive from day-one. I never used it for its intended purpose, but was accidentally ejecting the tray, every time I picked up my laptop. The #$%! eject button was exactly where I placed my fingers. It was an embarrassment on airplane snack trays, and a constant irritation every time I used it.  Made me want to smash it with a hammer.  >:(

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Re: Laptop recommendations
« Reply #23 on: October 29, 2019, 12:32:19 am »
Tell me about it .. same on the 15" models too ::)
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Re: Laptop recommendations
« Reply #24 on: October 30, 2019, 02:36:17 pm »
Thanks.  Here's the output.  If the speed is due to the hard-drive then I am happy to put up with that for now.
inxi -Fz
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System:    Host: kloos-Latitude-E6430 Kernel: 5.0.0-32-generic x86_64 bits: 64
           Desktop: N/A Distro: Peppermint Ten
Machine:   Device: laptop System: Dell product: Latitude E6430 v: 01 serial: N/A
           Mobo: Dell model: 0CPWYR v: A00 serial: N/A
           BIOS: Dell v: A17 date: 08/19/2015
Battery    BAT0: charge: 28.3 Wh 87.0% condition: 32.5/62.2 Wh (52%)
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core i5-3340M (-MT-MCP-) cache: 3072 KB
           clock speeds: max: 3400 MHz 1: 2831 MHz 2: 3171 MHz 3: 2868 MHz
           4: 2967 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller
           Display Server: x11 (X.Org 1.20.4 )
           drivers: modesetting (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1366x768@60.01hz
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Ivybridge Mobile
           version: 4.2 Mesa 19.0.8
Audio:     Card Intel 7 Series/C216 Family High Def. Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k5.0.0-32-generic
Network:   Card-1: Intel 82579LM Gigabit Network Connection (Lewisville)
           driver: e1000e
           IF: eno1 state: down mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205 [Taylor Peak] driver: iwlwifi
           IF: wlp2s0 state: up mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 500.1GB (1.9% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: HGST_HTS545050A7 size: 500.1GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 224G used: 8.9G (5%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda5
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 39.0C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 223 Uptime: 2 min Memory: 1054.4/7879.6MB
           Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.56

blkid
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/dev/sda1: LABEL="System Reserved" UUID="C8625F27625F1A10" TYPE="ntfs" PARTUUID="3833069c-01"
/dev/sda2: UUID="6AF06352F0632413" TYPE="ntfs" PARTUUID="3833069c-02"
/dev/sda3: UUID="4A3CDA3D3CDA23AB" TYPE="ntfs" PARTUUID="3833069c-03"
/dev/sda5: UUID="0c848114-d1e1-4197-923b-9e5aa88e1c1f" TYPE="ext4" PARTUUID="3833069c-05"

xed /etc/fstab
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# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier for a
# device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices
# that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
#
# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
# / was on /dev/sda5 during installation
UUID=0c848114-d1e1-4197-923b-9e5aa88e1c1f /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1
/swapfile                                 none            swap    sw              0       0