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New-ish User, Older Peppermint
« on: August 06, 2019, 02:04:34 pm »
Gosh, it's been a while since I was here.  So, I consider myself a new user.  Again.   ;D

I have been happily running PeppermintOS 6 on an Asus EeePC (you know, the little netbook with the Atom CPU).  In fact, I started with PeppermintOS 5 and re-installed when 6 came out.  One of my "pet projects" was to apply the Cairo Dock and the Mac interface items, to make it (mostly) look and (mostly) feel like a Mac.

A couple of weeks ago, after running non-stop for over 250 days, I noticed there were no updates arriving.  A closer look showed that a restart was necessary.  Sigh, there goes my attempt at having a machine running a full year without needing a reboot.  But I digress.

Now I see PeppermintOS is up to v10.  Gads, have I been away that long???

So, my question is two-fold:  1) I suppose there is no upgrade path to v10.  A clean install and tweaks, as before, and 2) Is v10 worth installing on a vastly underpowered "toy" computer like the Asus?  Should I just leave well enough alone?

Thanks for reading.

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Re: New-ish User, Older Peppermint
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2019, 03:26:33 pm »
Welcome back @fred. just fred! ...VinDSL must be traveling today...  When he pops up he'll let you know that yes... you may really enjoy beefing up your little eepc to match his which is on steroids now!
« Last Edit: August 06, 2019, 04:07:26 pm by spence »
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Re: New-ish User, Older Peppermint
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2019, 08:18:11 pm »
Man, I cannot believe how many Asus Eee PC users are visiting the boards lately. Mark should start a sub for us. ;D

It's up to the OP, but I did a wash, rinse and restyle - clean P10 install and haxored away. I have a Celeron CPU and P10 works great on the old gurl. I'm also dual-booting this rig with winders XP Home - the OEM OS this Eee PC came with OOTB. P10 and XP are happily coexisting with one another.

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╭─vindsl@Torb-10 ~
╰─$ systemd-analyze time

Startup finished in 6.185s (kernel) + 21.291s (userspace) = 27.477s
graphical.target reached after 20.371s in userspace
╭─vindsl@Torb-10 ~
╰─$ inxi -bxxxz         
System:    Host: Torb-10 Kernel: 5.0.0-23-generic i686 bits: 32 gcc: 7.4.0
           Desktop: N/A info: xfce4-panel dm: lightdm Distro: Peppermint Ten
Machine:   Device: laptop System: ASUSTeK product: 1000HD v: x.x serial: N/A
           Mobo: ASUSTeK model: 1000HD v: x.xx serial: N/A
           BIOS: American Megatrends v: 1401 date: 04/14/2009
           Chassis: ASUSTek type: 10 v: x.x serial: N/A
Battery    BAT0: charge: 21.4 Wh 92.2% condition: 23.2/36.9 Wh (63%) volts: 8.4/8.4
           model: ASUS 1000HD Li-ion serial: N/A status: Charging cycles: 0
CPU:       Single core Intel Celeron M (-UP-) arch: Dothan rev.8
           speed: 897 MHz (max)
Graphics:  Card: Intel Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller
           bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:2592
           Display Server: x11 (X.Org 1.20.4 )
           drivers: intel (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1024x600@60.00hz
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 915GM x86/MMX/SSE2
           version: 1.4 Mesa 19.0.2 Direct Render: Yes
Network:   Card-1: Qualcomm Atheros AR242x / AR542x Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express)
           driver: ath5k bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 168c:001c
           Card-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR8121/AR8113/AR8114 Gigabit or Fast Ethernet
           driver: ATL1E port: ec00 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 1969:1026
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 314.1GB (1.9% used)
Info:      Processes: 139 Uptime: 5 min Memory: 179.1/1934.6MB
           Init: systemd v: 237 runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 7.4.0
           Client: Shell (zsh 5.4.2 running in x-terminal-emul) inxi: 2.3.56
╭─vindsl@Torb-10 ~
╰─$
[close]

I won't bore you with the mods I've made, but I should mention that I currently have a Lexar Pro Class 833x 64GB SDXC in the microSD slot, and Peppermint is recognizing it just fine, which surprise me. I'll be installing a third OS (BSD) on it, when and if I get a chance.

Anyway, that's my 2-cents. WB @fred. just fred, as spence said  ;)

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Re: New-ish User, Older Peppermint
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2019, 02:59:25 pm »
Welcome Fred.justFred!

Also started using Linux from an EeePC! Then I got a Lenovo S10e netbook. Haven't seen a netbook for sale (locally in ages).

Hope you enjoy the forum!

I would try P10 on your machine, but I would not be very hopeful.

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Re: New-ish User, Older Peppermint
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2019, 02:52:50 pm »
Thanks!  A couple of years ago I went on a quest to revive my old EeePC.  I searched far and wide and found a replacement battery.  Then, I realized it was too underpowered for most any "modern day" OS (I tried the original, which was abandoned), I tried Puppy Linux (which I still have as a dual-boot), but then I found that someone had mocked up a Peppermint 5 using a theme, MintyMac, and said, "That's for me" (I'm mostly a Mac user).  So, off I went.  I updated the BIOS, added RAM, added storage (both internal and with a tiny SanDISK 16GB USB stick (which is where my Puppy lives).

Here's a brief look from inxi:

System:    Host: lil-sandbox Kernel: 3.16.0-77-generic i686 (32 bit, gcc: 4.8.4)
           Desktop: N/A dm: lightdm Distro: Peppermint Six
Machine:   System: ASUSTeK product: 900A version: x.x Chassis: ASUSTek type: 10 version: x.x
           Mobo: ASUSTeK model: 900A version: x.xx Bios: American Megatrends version: 1102 date: 06/11/2009
CPU:       Single core Intel Atom CPU N270 (-HT-) clocked at 800.00 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics Controller bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:27ae
           X.Org: 1.16.0 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1024x600@60.0hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 945GME x86/MMX/SSE2 GLX Version: 1.4 Mesa 10.3.2 Direct Rendering: Yes
Network:   Card-1: Qualcomm Atheros AR242x / AR542x Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express)
           driver: ath5k bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 168c:001c
           Card-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR8121/AR8113/AR8114 Gigabit or Fast Ethernet
           driver: ATL1E port: dc00 bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 1969:1026
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 64.2GB (17.9% used)
           1: id: /dev/sda model: STT_FMT032JCRM size: 32.0GB serial: S855141-FSW9-521F010 temp: 40C
           2: USB id: /dev/sdc model: Ultra_Fit size: 15.6GB serial: 4C530001190702116024-0:0 temp: 0C
           3: USB id: /dev/sdb model: Flash_Reader size: 16.6GB serial: 058F63356336-0:0 temp: 0C
Info:      Processes: 136 Uptime: 34 min Memory: 149.1/2009.5MB Runlevel: 2 Gcc sys: N/A
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.11 running in cairo-dock) inxi: 1.9.17

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Re: New-ish User, Older Peppermint
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2019, 03:34:00 pm »
My first foray into Linux was Pepp 5 on a 1005ha eeepc.  I also added a new battery, ram to 2gigs and a 320g hard drive.  For a bout a year I had it running Variety  Wallpaper changer and ran the slideshow for my family digital photos.  I recently tried to hook up a monitor to it, which didn't work on it, and for some reason the laptop screen went out.  So sad because this was equal to having the 1st dollar bill in your business.  It is what brought me to Linux and my finding Peppermint.

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Re: New-ish User, Older Peppermint
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2019, 03:29:20 pm »
Well, after spending some time researching and testing, I think I'm going to stick with Peppermint 6 on my EeePC.  I've created a multiboot USB drive with several Linuces and have been comparing them to what I already have.

These are x86 (32-bit) OSes I've looked at, with some of my comments.
  • PeppermintOS 10 - very elegant, but slow on my old hardware
  • BionicPup32 - Nice Mac-like look. It's Puppy, so it needs configuring
  • kolibriOS - fastest of the bunch. But no support for wireless networking.  Sigh...
  • PeachOS - gorgeous UI - the most Mac-like of the bunch - but grindingly slow
  • antiX - Fast, but quirky.  Multiple window managers and themes.
  • xpud 0.9.2 - made for old netbooks. Might be useful in a hurry
  • ReactOS - non Linux, made to emulate Windows NT. But won't run on my hardware
  • Lubuntu 18.04 - Also very polished and elegant. But slow
  • Q4OS - Loaded but not tested
The good thing is that I can boot from the SanDisk Ultra Fit drive, which sits nearly flush to the body (and fits right next to my wireless mouse dongle).   

Here's my disk structure:
   sda1 - mounted on /  (this is the internal, 32GB SDD)
   sdb1 - mounted on /home/me  (this is a 16GB Flash Card)
   sdc1 - mounted on /media (this is the USB 16GB Ultra Fit)

So, I'm have 48GB of storage dedicated to my internal Peppermint 6 and user (me) storage.  The thumb drive has space available for persistence with the multiboot OSes.

Now I find I have to replace my battery.  Again.  $40 for an OEM replacement.  In black (no white available).  I'm spending more money supporting this little machine than I spent on it originally!    :D

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Re: New-ish User, Older Peppermint
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2019, 03:55:49 pm »
This is obviously your call, but PM6/Ubuntu 14.04 are EOL  :'(

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Re: New-ish User, Older Peppermint
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2019, 07:50:19 pm »
This is obviously your call, but PM6/Ubuntu 14.04 are EOL  :'(

Peppermint 10 works great on my Eee PC, as I said above.

However, I would be remiss if I didn't add an addendum to dual-booting it with XP (which is also EOL).

As fate would have it, they've recently discovered that winders 10 is full of worm holes. Most of them have NOT been patched, and MS said it's going to take a lot of time to come up with patches.

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This is the nightmare scenario for system administrators around the world: Several severe security flaws affecting all Windows versions since Windows XP have just been made public today and Microsoft has barely released the appropriate security update which took 90 days—which is the common disclosure window before vulnerabilities are made public—to develop.

SOURCE: https://is.gd/kToaWn

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Windows XP, Windows Server 2003, and Windows Server 2008 are not affected, nor is the Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) itself affected.

SOURCE: https://is.gd/bjp8XT

Who woulda thunk XP is safer than winders 10 :))