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What would you do? [Done with it]
« on: July 10, 2019, 11:06:49 am »
Two years ago, I gave my father my old Asus eee pc 1001px with PM7 installed.
I'm visiting my parents this week and just installed over 500 updates  :o
Now,...
Kernel 4.4.0-83 boots fine, but the latest updated 4.4.0-154 doesn't boot at all. I've installed 4.14.133 and it boots ok.

What to do?? Freeze his system on 4.4.0-83? Or just let it be on 4.14.133?
He has NO clue how to do this and I won't be around for another year or two...
Options?

Thx!
« Last Edit: July 15, 2019, 03:52:55 pm by pin »
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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2019, 11:43:38 am »
Move him to the hwe-16.04 track which will put him on the 4.15 (18.04) kernel (with updates until 16.04 EOL's in April 2021).
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack#Ubuntu_16.04_LTS_-_Xenial_Xerus
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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2019, 12:53:31 pm »
Thx!
Will fix soon...
For now he's frozen on 4.4.0-83, but this is actually running rather well  :D
Kind off regreat, I gave it away  :(
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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2019, 01:16:43 pm »
I'm pretty sure I still have one of those somewhere, but the power jack needs re-soldering to the board.
(it works only if you put some lateral pressure on the power connector)
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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2019, 03:58:38 pm »
 :) Just cleaned everything he doesn't need and I'm down to 3.8GB used disk space and about 50sec boot time (yes, its still a HDD inside).
The 1GB RAM is the limiting factor, but I won't upgrade it. He doesn't want to pay for it  >:( ...
...this thing would fly with a SSD and 2GB of RAM.
Well, whatever. I'm done with it.
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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2019, 05:48:51 pm »
Tell him he has no option .. that 1GB RAM and HDD's reach end of life in August :)
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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2019, 08:03:11 am »
 :D
It won't work! He only got cable tv after almost a year watching unfocus and deformed picture broadcast.
Most probably because he couldn't see what was on any longer  :D
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Re: What would you do?
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2019, 03:24:07 pm »
Anything patched for spectre and meltdown seems to have issues on this machine...  ::)
4.4.0-83 is, as mentioned working as it should;
4.4.0-154, latest auto-updated on this series doesn't boot;
4.4.0-185, latest from mainline on this series doesn't boot;
4.14.133 installs, obviously after manually pulling libssl-1.1, and boots but, it has issues with ACPI;
4.15.0-54, boots but, with wrong screen resolution.

Anyway, the system is now back on 4.4.0-83 and I've stopped kernel updates, everything else will still be rolling in as usual.

Not the solution I was looking for, but I won't bother with it anymore. Even if I get another kernel to work, there's always the risk that a coming update will screw things up and I won't be around to fix it.
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Re: What would you do? [Done with it]
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2019, 08:19:57 pm »
Don't know how I missed this thread... but, I've been mad busy with real-life shiz.  ::)

Here's my Eee PC. It's a slightly different model variation, and it's running on P10.





I had a hella time installing P10 on this thing - almost gave up, but the OEM install worked a treat.

I ran the gamut finding a kernel that worked properly, but it's all good now.

I can truthfully say, it's never run better, especially with the addition of the SSD  8)

Have you tried the Linux 4.18.x kernel?

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Re: What would you do? [Done with it]
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2019, 02:54:51 am »
I did think about you, as I remembered your posts  ;)
Nope, I haven't tried 4.18... shall do  :)
Thx!

EDIT: Just took it for a spin...
4.18.20 boots fine but, according to dmesg, it fails to load eeepc-wmi driver  :(
This causes trouble, at least with power management, the system is unaware of battery life  :(
Back to 4.4.0-83  ;)
It could be related to this, https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=876303. Anyway, 4.4.0-83 it is  >:(
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Re: What would you do? [Done with it]
« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2019, 07:14:07 am »
Interesting.

I wonder if the differences in outcome have anything to do with Atom vs Celeron  :-\

Oh, well, I suppose we should be happily surprised when any Linux kernel works with these antiques.

I really like the overall form factor of netbooks, in some odd way.

I suppose a Peppermint-powered Apple MacBook Air 11.6" would be the next logical progression.  ;D

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Re: What would you do? [Done with it]
« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2019, 08:08:06 am »
 :) Yes, I think you're right. We should be happy that it still works.
I kind of like it also, although its not mine anymore  ;)

Guess that in a few years, I'll be needing NETBSD i386 if I wish to keep it alive. Need to replace the wifi-card, though as there's no support for the one inside this box  :D
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Re: What would you do? [Done with it]
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2019, 01:00:30 pm »
@ VinDSL
Couldn't resist. Fetched the NetBSD-8.1_STABLE i386 image from the daily builds and booted the eee pc.
 :o dmesg shows no warnings, errors or failures. Moreover, wifi and acpi work perfectly.
I didn't install it. There's no way he could handle the system  ;) but, it really caught me by surprise. The hardware is fully supported.
Thought you'd like to know.
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Re: What would you do? [Done with it]
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2019, 02:48:10 pm »
I'd probably look around for a newer Dell E series locally and offer to trade with Dad @pin... "here this will work better for you... "
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Re: What would you do? [Done with it]
« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2019, 07:33:54 pm »
@ VinDSL
Couldn't resist. Fetched the NetBSD-8.1_STABLE i386 image from the daily builds and booted the eee pc.
 :o dmesg shows no warnings, errors or failures. Moreover, wifi and acpi work perfectly.
I didn't install it. There's no way he could handle the system  ;) but, it really caught me by surprise. The hardware is fully supported.
Thought you'd like to know.


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I'm such a sucker for BSD   8)