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Re: Problem with legacy installation: no EFI partition
« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2019, 07:50:14 am »
Okay, have fun doing whatever you're doing .. later Slim :)
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Re: Problem with legacy installation: no EFI partition
« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2019, 10:50:23 am »
Hi PCNetSpec,

Back again (and it was rather fun: I picked up a case of (organic-)wine that a friend brought back for me from a trip to southern France; then I bought a six pack of Benediktiner Helles Lagerbier on the way home; and now I'm enjoying a great dry gin martini -- at least something in life is working well, even if my Peppermint Ten install efforts are not  :D ).


Ok, so I burned the fresh DL of Peppermint Ten to the USB, booted it and attempted the chroot/grub-install dance again -- unfortunately with the same error: cannot find EFI directory. So why did the installation of earlier Peppermint versions not fail on this computer??  :-\ Something must have been changed in the Ubuntu installation code.


On to business: the new live session is also acting crazy!! I cannot start firefox
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/usr/sbin/firefox: line 1: 2645 Bus error   env GTK_THEME=Peppermint-10-Red-Mixed /usr/bin/firefox "$@"and I cannot start the text editor to show you the complete output of fdisk -l:
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xed: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xed/libxed.so: cannot read file data: Input/output errorI don't know about you, but I'm beginning to worry.  ;)


Do you think that my USB stick is defective?
 
Tell me what you want to see from the outputs of fdisk -l and blkid and I will copy that over in my next reply.

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Re: Problem with legacy installation: no EFI partition
« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2019, 11:03:00 am »
I'm more inclined to think the HDD (or at least the filesystem) is defective/corrupt.

(or maybe memory)

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Ignore that, YES if xed now isn't working from the LiveUSB (and it was before) then it's likely a USB I/O issue .. try another USB stick
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Re: Problem with legacy installation: no EFI partition
« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2019, 11:56:59 am »
Hi PCNetSpec,

New USB, more or less the same problems/errors -- but I can start firefox (using it now in the live session to write this) and xed. So here are the outputs:

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I hope that this is something that can be resolved.  :(


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Re: Problem with legacy installation: no EFI partition
« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2019, 12:55:33 pm »
Okay can you give us the make/model of computer (so I can look for the manual), because for some reason the LiveUSB appears to be booting in UEFI mode.

Oh, and what are you using to create the LiveUSB ?
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Re: Problem with legacy installation: no EFI partition
« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2019, 01:19:16 pm »
Hi PCNetSpec,

Computer: acer  Extensa 2510. Here is the inxi info:

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I used mintstick from another installation of Peppermint Ten to create the live session usb.

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Re: Problem with legacy installation: no EFI partition
« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2019, 02:32:51 pm »
Okay that's odd, according to the manual this system doesn't even appear to support UEFI :-\
https://www.acer.com/ac/en/ID/content/support-product/5343;-;

When you boot the LiveUSB, do you see the GRUB menu, or the graphical "Try Peppermint / Install Peppermint" screen (with the Peppermint logo) ?

And whilst booted to the LiveUSB, what's the output from
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[ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo "Booted as UEFI" || echo "Booted as Legacy BIOS"


Just thinking out loud here...

Maybe you could boot the LiveUSB .. install Boot Repair
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair

then use it to fix GRUB



If not, we're gonna need to chroot in and reinstall grub.

Do you know which partition contains the Peppermint 10 installation that failed at grub installation ?
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Re: Problem with legacy installation: no EFI partition
« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2019, 11:53:08 pm »
Hi PCNetSpec,

When booting the live session I get a GRUB menu with a black sort of leather-looking background (so it seems to be a graphical screen), but there is no Peppermint logo. In the BIOS settings, under the entry Boot, there is a choice to use UEFI (which I do not select).

The requested output:

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Booted as UEFIStrange but true ...  ???


WRT your talking to yourself at the end of your last message: I almost had done this at the beginning, but decided to wait and see if there is something else to do first (and, I must admit, I've never used the program Boot Repair before).


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Re: Problem with legacy installation: no EFI partition
« Reply #23 on: July 10, 2019, 03:52:36 am »
Wouldn't it be better to try to put the boot flag on the PM7 partion, re-install grub on that and reformat the PM10 partion??
Just thinking out loud...

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Re: Problem with legacy installation: no EFI partition
« Reply #24 on: July 10, 2019, 04:11:07 am »
Hi pin,

Great idea! I like that. And then run the live session installer again, format the P10 partition (just to be safe), install to it again and then put the GRUB in the P10 partition?


I think I will try this.  :)


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Re: Problem with legacy installation: no EFI partition
« Reply #25 on: July 10, 2019, 09:18:24 am »
In your BIOS, under the "BOOT" tab, is there a "Boot Mode" option that is currently set to [UEFI] ?

Nothing is mentioned in the manual about UEFI, but I gather it was a Win8 PC, and it obviously can boot UEFI

You need to find how to boot the LiveUSB in legacy BIOS mode


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Re: Problem with legacy installation: no EFI partition
« Reply #26 on: July 12, 2019, 12:57:08 am »
Hi PCNetSpec,

Sorry for the late reply but I was out of town for a short while.

Thanks again for your time and effort. It is most probably true that back when I bought this laptop Win8 was typically installed by default. But when I purchased this laptop I purchased it precisely because the dealer could deliver it without any OS (although it turned out to have a pretty much useless and specked-down Linux of some sort -- whose name I no longer remember -- and I immediately installed PeppermintOS and eliminated the original from the HDD).

Unfortunately, the two videos that you found only show and describe what I have been doing all along. As an alternative I decided to try several other Linux distros to see if the same problem occurs. With two Ubuntus (minimal and Xubuntu) and with an Arch derivative that uses the Calamares installer the exact same thing occurs (no EFI partition found error).

I was about to give up and either try installing the Boot Repair utility or try performing the suggestion from pin (moving the boot flag to my Peppermint 7 partition, installing GRUB to the MBR from there and then checking whether I could boot into the Peppermint Ten installation).

But then I thought I would try one last distro and DL'ed MX Linux 18.3. And presto! No problem, it installed without hesitation and runs perfectly.  :o So I guess I'll mark this as ABANDONED and fool around with MX Linux for a bit (when I am not in Peppermint Ten on my other machines).  ::) ;D


Thanks again for the time and effort from yourself and pin. I'm sorry it didn't really help us in any way WRT others having this problem (but until now, no one else has mentioned it as being an issue  :-\ ).


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Re: Problem with legacy installation: no EFI partition [ABANDONED]
« Reply #27 on: July 12, 2019, 01:10:51 am »
As far as I'm concerned, NO problem  ;)
I was actually at the airport on my way to Portugal when this all started  :) ...visiting family and some holiday after that.

Some early EFI machines seem to behave rather strange. I've had a few installs with a similar issue, although setting the boot to legacy mode has always fixed it. Don't really know what has happened in your case  :-\

Enjoy your multiboot  :D

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Re: Problem with legacy installation: no EFI partition [ABANDONED]
« Reply #28 on: July 12, 2019, 01:46:25 am »
Hi pin,

Enjoy your time with the family and don't forget to get in some R&R too!  :D


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Re: Problem with legacy installation: no EFI partition [ABANDONED]
« Reply #29 on: July 18, 2019, 06:48:50 am »
I seem to remember, pretty strange for me, about somebody wanting to install without installing grub. Isn't there a code that can be run while in the live session to tell umbiguity(?) to install without grub?
What was I thinking?