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Re: Apple Engineer Explains $999 Mac Pro Stand
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2019, 12:09:42 pm »
Yep Mac users are finding it harder and harder to come off as anything other than idiot posers :))

They'll no doubt tell you there's some Mac only software they NEED .. bull.
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Re: Apple Engineer Explains $999 Mac Pro Stand
« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2019, 03:31:37 pm »
IMHO, Mac Pros et al. come down to 'bragging rights' for professionals.

Apple hadn't updated their Mac Pros in years, and it was time. It's a niche product.

I can understand it, on a somewhat personal level. At one time, I was getting by at board meetings with a Asus Eee PC.

Who cares what 'they' think, right?

However, I eventually started *feeling* uneasy sitting at a boardroom table with a netbook. Everyone else had high-end Apples, HPs, and Dells. So, to protect my ego/reputation, I bit the bullet and started lugging around a Dell.

I judge the same applies to Mac Pro users. There's a whole subculture of professions out there, that the common man doesn't understand.

Does the average user understand the need for a $30,000 computer system?  No.

Would the average consider buying a $5,000 monitor, which doesn't come with a stand?  No.
 
Do professional users with $30,000 systems even need a monitor stand?  No. Think about it.

Are professionals willing to pay the price?  You bet. They probably aren't footing the bill, anyway  ;)

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Re: Apple Engineer Explains $999 Mac Pro Stand
« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2019, 03:33:15 pm »
Doesn't mean they NEED it .. so still makes em idiot posers ;)
(or at least just 'posers', if someone else is paying they're the idiot)
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Re: Apple Engineer Explains $999 Mac Pro Stand
« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2019, 03:44:39 pm »
Guess I should watch the vid, to see what you're basing these declarations on, eh what?  ;D








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Re: Apple Engineer Explains $999 Mac Pro Stand
« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2019, 03:50:40 pm »
I meant a mac pro, not the monitor stand .. you definitely need a monitor stand unless you're rich enough to pay some girls to hold it.
(the monitor doesn't even have a vesa mount)

Nobody NEEDS a Mac Pro, that's purely about posing .. hell it's probably not even the best PC for any particular job (except the job of posing).

Video won't tell you anything .. but it might make you laugh.
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Re: Apple Engineer Explains $999 Mac Pro Stand
« Reply #20 on: June 15, 2019, 04:06:45 pm »
Okay, I got it now - fake video gag.

That's funny...

Most Mac Pro users will just add it to their wall of other monitors - or their tree, if it's on a desk.

Only Mac Pro user I've run across, with a single monitor on his desk, was a graphic designer that reduced the pictures in a German manual down to an A4 printable size. I needed them for training purposes.

Gotta say, it was the biggest baddest Apple monitor I'd ever seen, at the time. I was impressed. The professional scanner he used was as big as a deep-freeze and equally impressive.

This guy's job was to design display advertising for newspapers. And, yes, he was a pro, not a poser.

Just saying...

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Re: Apple Engineer Explains $999 Mac Pro Stand
« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2019, 06:49:46 pm »
Yeah, the video is purely for fun.  :D

We just kind of turned the conversation into "WTF Apple users." ;)

I just don't get how a Mac anything is supposed to make you "elite." You're just paying too damn much for off the shelf components put into an Apple case. That's all it is.

This is about as close to a direct comparison as I can get:

https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/imac/21.5-inch-2.3ghz-dual-core-processor-with-turbo-boost-up-to-3.6ghz-1tb

https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-desktop-computers/inspiron-22-3000-touch-all-in-one/spd/inspiron-22-3277-aio/fdcw22ipun102s

So, for $370 cheaper, you can get a Dell with very similar hardware. The screen size is roughly the same. The Dell has a slightly faster processor, but the Mac has a slightly better GPU. Both have 8GB DDR4, the Dell's memory has a faster clock speed. Both have a 1TB 5400RPM HDD. So, you pay a $370 Apple "tax" for the "prestige" of owning a Mac. F*** that.

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Re: Apple Engineer Explains $999 Mac Pro Stand
« Reply #22 on: June 15, 2019, 07:35:12 pm »
Now you guys did it. You got me thinking...

I'm setup with enough PCs to last me a lifetime, but I forgot about that scanner the graphic artist used.

Think it would be silly of me to purchase something like this, for personal usage?

I judge it's no worse than spending $30K USD on a Mac Pro.

http://www.allied-images.com/index.php/specialist-scanners/kurabo

A Mac Pro wouldn't be necessary. Simple Scan could handle it, right?

Then, I could start scanning/reducing shop manuals to A4 myself.

Hrm... wonder if I can find something like that on eBay  :-\

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Re: Apple Engineer Explains $999 Mac Pro Stand
« Reply #23 on: June 15, 2019, 07:55:00 pm »
Did a quick search. Found for that magnificent Jap scanner on the web - $43,000 new (+$1800 shipping)

https://www.largeformatspecialist.com/Kurabo-K-IS-A1FW-ARCH-D-Size-24-x-36-Color-Flatbed-Scanner-400-DPI_p_436.html

I'd rather have one of those, than a Mac Pro, but I'll need to think about it a little.

Whatta ya think?

EDIT

Oops! That cheap POS is only 400 DPI. Hello ?!?!

800 DPI is $53,545.66 (+ $1800 shipping)

https://www.largeformatspecialist.com/Kurabo-K-IS-A1FW-Plus-ARCH-D-Size-24-x-36-Color-Flatbed-Scanner-800-DPI

Or, I could go for The Crown Jewel - $74,144 (free shipping)

https://www.largeformatspecialist.com/Kurabo-K-IS-A0FW-ARCH-E-Size-36x-50-Color-Flatbed-Scanner


Decisions, decisions...  ::)
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Re: Apple Engineer Explains $999 Mac Pro Stand
« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2019, 07:57:48 pm »
Most Mac Pro users will just add it to their wall of other monitors - or their tree, if it's on a desk.

Not without the optional vesa adapter they won't .. erm which will cost them $199 :))
(you couldn't make this stuff up)

https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2019/6/3/18651001/apples-mac-pro-xdr-display-monitor-stand-expensive-dongle-not-included-wwdc-2019
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Re: Apple Engineer Explains $999 Mac Pro Stand
« Reply #25 on: June 15, 2019, 08:18:26 pm »
Most Mac Pro users will just add it to their wall of other monitors - or their tree, if it's on a desk.

Not without the optional vesa adapter they won't .. erm which will cost them $199 :))
(you couldn't make this stuff up)

Meh. A mere pittance for Mac Pro users...

They probably spend that much on Sexagintuple Vanilla Bean Mocha Frappuccinos at Starbucks every day.

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Re: Apple Engineer Explains $999 Mac Pro Stand
« Reply #26 on: June 15, 2019, 08:51:50 pm »
$74,000 dollar scanner, or a house. You choose. :P

It's OK to look at expensive stuff and dream, Vin.

To be fair, even with everything I've said about them, I still can't get the idea of a Mac Mini out of my head.

https://www.amazon.com/Apple-3-6GHz-quad-core-Intel-processor/dp/B07K2M9FLB

As far as Macs go, that's not that bad of a price.

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Re: Apple Engineer Explains $999 Mac Pro Stand
« Reply #27 on: June 16, 2019, 08:24:30 am »
As far as Macs go, that's not that bad of a price.

Sure an i3 for just $750 .. a steal :)
(not quite sure who's doing the stealing though)

Or you could get a Skull Canyon i7 gaming NUC .. probably also comes with rubber feet :)
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Re: Apple Engineer Explains $999 Mac Pro Stand
« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2019, 08:26:23 am »
Meh. A mere pittance for Mac Pro users...

They probably spend that much on Sexagintuple Vanilla Bean Mocha Frappuccinos at Starbucks every day.

Can't argue with that .. I wanna, but can't :o
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Re: Apple Engineer Explains $999 Mac Pro Stand
« Reply #29 on: June 16, 2019, 09:42:33 am »
As far as Macs go, that's not that bad of a price.

Sure an i3 for just $750 .. a steal :)
(not quite sure who's doing the stealing though)

Or you could get a Skull Canyon i7 gaming NUC .. probably also comes with rubber feet :)

Oh, I can tell you who's doing the stealing. ::) By the way, that's actually $50 off of the price at Apple.