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Hi, I choose not to install the graphics drivers at install as I want to add the PPA to get the nvidia 430 drivers.

My question is - What else is missing by not choosing that option.

What do I need to install to get those missing items - post install

Thanks in advance

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Interesting question.

The absence of evidence is not necessarily the same as evidence of absence.

Put another way, just because something isn't enabled, doesn't mean it's missing.

I'm wondering the same thing about OEM installs.

I suppose, only PCNoSleep can answer questions like these...
« Last Edit: May 23, 2019, 07:03:08 am by VinDSL, Reason: Clarification »

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AFAIK nothing, just the nvidia driver, and nvidia-settings (and nvidia-prime is it's an optimus setup) .. I haven't gone through the new ubiquity code though.

If this is coming from EB, I think he's kinda getting confused as to what "optimus" and "prime" mean .. I get the feeling he thinks they're different hardware.

"Optimus" is the hardware configuration (just what nvidia call the nvidia/intel mixed hardware) .. nvidia-prime is just the software that allows swapping .. they're not separate things.
(people just tend to use the terms interchangeably, but they're both talking about the same hardware/software setup)

I also think he may be expecting the ability to 'hot' swap between them (ie. without logging off/on) as can now be done with a new tool in Arch/Manjaro .. that's not the case yet in Ubuntu as nobody has packaged that new tool yet.

if this helps (from an optimus dell)
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mark@E6520 ~ $ dpkg -l | grep nvidia
ii  libnvidia-cfg1-390:amd64                                         390.116-0ubuntu0.18.04.1                        amd64        NVIDIA binary OpenGL/GLX configuration library
ii  libnvidia-common-390                                             390.116-0ubuntu0.18.04.1                        all          Shared files used by the NVIDIA libraries
ii  libnvidia-compute-390:amd64                                      390.116-0ubuntu0.18.04.1                        amd64        NVIDIA libcompute package
ii  libnvidia-compute-390:i386                                       390.116-0ubuntu0.18.04.1                        i386         NVIDIA libcompute package
ii  libnvidia-decode-390:amd64                                       390.116-0ubuntu0.18.04.1                        amd64        NVIDIA Video Decoding runtime libraries
ii  libnvidia-decode-390:i386                                        390.116-0ubuntu0.18.04.1                        i386         NVIDIA Video Decoding runtime libraries
ii  libnvidia-encode-390:amd64                                       390.116-0ubuntu0.18.04.1                        amd64        NVENC Video Encoding runtime library
ii  libnvidia-encode-390:i386                                        390.116-0ubuntu0.18.04.1                        i386         NVENC Video Encoding runtime library
ii  libnvidia-fbc1-390:amd64                                         390.116-0ubuntu0.18.04.1                        amd64        NVIDIA OpenGL-based Framebuffer Capture runtime library
ii  libnvidia-fbc1-390:i386                                          390.116-0ubuntu0.18.04.1                        i386         NVIDIA OpenGL-based Framebuffer Capture runtime library
ii  libnvidia-gl-390:amd64                                           390.116-0ubuntu0.18.04.1                        amd64        NVIDIA OpenGL/GLX/EGL/GLES GLVND libraries and Vulkan ICD
ii  libnvidia-gl-390:i386                                            390.116-0ubuntu0.18.04.1                        i386         NVIDIA OpenGL/GLX/EGL/GLES GLVND libraries and Vulkan ICD
ii  libnvidia-ifr1-390:amd64                                         390.116-0ubuntu0.18.04.1                        amd64        NVIDIA OpenGL-based Inband Frame Readback runtime library
ii  libnvidia-ifr1-390:i386                                          390.116-0ubuntu0.18.04.1                        i386         NVIDIA OpenGL-based Inband Frame Readback runtime library
ii  nvidia-compute-utils-390                                         390.116-0ubuntu0.18.04.1                        amd64        NVIDIA compute utilities
ii  nvidia-dkms-390                                                  390.116-0ubuntu0.18.04.1                        amd64        NVIDIA DKMS package
ii  nvidia-driver-390                                                390.116-0ubuntu0.18.04.1                        amd64        NVIDIA driver metapackage
ii  nvidia-kernel-common-390                                         390.116-0ubuntu0.18.04.1                        amd64        Shared files used with the kernel module
ii  nvidia-kernel-source-390                                         390.116-0ubuntu0.18.04.1                        amd64        NVIDIA kernel source package
ii  nvidia-prime                                                     0.8.8.2                                         all          Tools to enable NVIDIA's Prime
ii  nvidia-settings                                                  390.77-0ubuntu0.18.04.1                         amd64        Tool for configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver
ii  nvidia-utils-390                                                 390.116-0ubuntu0.18.04.1                        amd64        NVIDIA driver support binaries
ii  xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-390                                    390.116-0ubuntu0.18.04.1
and obviously whatever those packages depend on will also be pulled in .. such as (but possibly not limited to):-
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  libbsd0:i386 libdrm-amdgpu1:i386 libdrm-intel1:i386 libdrm-nouveau2:i386
  libdrm-radeon1:i386 libdrm2:i386 libedit2:i386 libelf1:i386 libexpat1:i386
  libffi6:i386 libgl1:i386 libgl1-mesa-dri:i386 libglapi-mesa:i386 libglvnd0:i386
  libglx-mesa0:i386 libglx0:i386 libllvm7:i386 libpciaccess0:i386 libsensors4:i386 libstdc++6:i386
  libwayland-client0:i386 libwayland-server0:i386 libx11-6:i386 libx11-xcb1:i386 libxau6:i386
  libxcb-dri2-0:i386 libxcb-dri3-0:i386 libxcb-glx0:i386 libxcb-present0:i386
  libxcb-sync1:i386 libxcb1:i386 libxdamage1:i386 libxdmcp6:i386 libxext6:i386
  libxfixes3:i386 libxnvctrl0 libxshmfence1:i386 libxxf86vm1:i386
  screen-resolution-extra
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Interesting question.

The absence of evidence is not necessarily the same as evidence of absence.

Put another way, just because something isn't enabled, doesn't mean it's missing.

I'm wondering the same thing about OEM installs.

I suppose, only PCNoSleep can answer questions like these...

Again, as far as I'm aware an OEM install makes no changes to the installation at all.
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This is not coming from EB.  I thought choosing that option brought in multimedia codecs and other stuff.

Do we still need to install stuff like unrestricted extras.

That is where the question came from  ;D

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I would guess so ..

As it mentions third party software and drivers (Install third party drivers for graphics and Wi-Fi hardware and additional media formats) .. I'm assuming it's the same as the old "install third party software" just with the nvidia drivers thrown in.

Now me, I usually add ubuntu-restricted-extras & lubuntu-restricted-extras as a matter of course, but these days they seem to be pulling in less and less every release (specially if you've already chosen the "install third party software" during installation).
« Last Edit: May 23, 2019, 10:10:20 am by PCNetSpec »
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