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Re: Is there a way to update PM 8 to PM 9 from PM8?
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2019, 10:11:38 am »
Do you know how to test the Peppermint 9 LiveUSB with the nomodeset kernel boot parameter set ?

Unfortunately not. It may be better to wait to see if PM10 solves this issue. Any ideas when it comes out?

In the meantime I may use PM8 and install it in such a way as too be able to take out the operating system only
and leave personal files and programs untouched when upgrading.

I really need something that works out of the packet like PM8  as I am trying to install across three machines and I want interoperability.  Also no permissions issues.

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Re: Is there a way to update PM 8 to PM 9 from PM8?
« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2019, 11:54:21 am »
Well, after further attempts the PM9 32 bit worked on my  older netbook. I will try it on the more 'modern' MSI machine.

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Re: Is there a way to update PM 8 to PM 9 from PM8?
« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2019, 11:59:15 am »
Well if you have PM8 already running, sure stick with it, it's still supported.

But if you'd like to try nomodeset (in a live session) let me know and I'll post instructions .. can't hurt to try right? (it's not going to change any already installed OS).
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Re: Is there a way to update PM 8 to PM 9 from PM8?
« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2019, 12:31:14 pm »
Sure - I would like to try nomodeset on PM 8 in a live session. Let me have the instructions.
Until when is PM 8 supported?  and PM9. Thanks.

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Re: Is there a way to update PM 8 to PM 9 from PM8?
« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2019, 01:22:20 pm »
PM8 2021
PM9 2023

I'm still running PM7 myself, also supported until 2021.
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Re: Is there a way to update PM 8 to PM 9 from PM8?
« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2019, 02:26:56 pm »
No, the point would be to try nomodeset in a PM9 live session not in PM8

Still wanna try ?

Is this a UEFI system, or Legacy BIOS ? .. what I'm asking is when you boot the PM9 LiveUSB are you booting it in UEFI mode or BIOS mode ?
(if unsure, do you see a menu with the Peppermint logo at the top, or do you see a GRUB menu ?)
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Re: Is there a way to update PM 8 to PM 9 from PM8?
« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2019, 06:11:50 pm »
No, the point would be to try nomodeset in a PM9 live session not in PM8

Still wanna try ?

Is this a UEFI system, or Legacy BIOS ? .. what I'm asking is when you boot the PM9 LiveUSB are you booting it in UEFI mode or BIOS mode ?
(if unsure, do you see a menu with the Peppermint logo at the top, or do you see a GRUB menu ?)

Yes - my error I meant try with PM9.

So - at the moment I get the 'starting up' hang with PM9 64 bit. (The PM9  32 bit Live ISO  works  on at least one machine. An old netbook).

With the 64 bit version and a modern machine I see a list of options after booting into the Live ISO - ie Try Peppermint Live at the top with peppermint install lower down and a few other options including test the cd/USB etc.
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Re: Is there a way to update PM 8 to PM 9 from PM8?
« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2019, 06:17:03 pm »
PM8 2021
PM9 2023

I'm still running PM7 myself, also supported until 2021.

Thanks for that.

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Re: Is there a way to update PM 8 to PM 9 from PM8?
« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2019, 06:33:39 am »
With the 64 bit version and a modern machine I see a list of options after booting into the Live ISO - ie Try Peppermint Live at the top with peppermint install lower down and a few other options including test the cd/USB etc.

Okay, when you get to that "Try Peppermint / Install Peppermint" screen, hit the Tab key .. some white writing should appear at the bottom of the screen that ends with
Code: [Select]
quiet splash --
make it end with
Code: [Select]
quiet splash nomodeset --
then hit Ctrl+X (or Enter) to continue booting.

Did It boot ?

If not, reboot and try changing
Code: [Select]
quiet splash --
to just
Code: [Select]
 --
(ie. remove the "quiet splash)

You should then see the boot sequence messages .. what was the last message before it froze ?
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Re: Is there a way to update PM 8 to PM 9 from PM8?
« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2019, 10:56:06 pm »


In the meantime I may use PM8 and install it in such a way as too be able to take out the operating system only
and leave personal files and programs untouched when upgrading.

I really need something that works out of the packet like PM8  as I am trying to install across three machines and I want interoperability.  Also no permissions issues.

Hi maxy2, to be able to do this, you should make a DATA partition, slimfatz has a tutorial for this under User Submitted Tutorials. You can't save your programs, you'll have to reinstall what you've installed with the exception of deb files that were downloaded. This makes it real easy to do exactly what you want to do.  :)
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Re: Is there a way to update PM 8 to PM 9 from PM8?
« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2019, 08:08:39 am »
I will try the nomodeset  test when I can put the PM  9  64 bit Live OS on a USB ( I have the 32 bit working at the moment). I will report back.

Thanks for the link on DATA partition. It looks useful.

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Re: Is there a way to update PM 8 to PM 9 from PM8?
« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2019, 08:45:22 am »
So you're saying Peppermint 9 32bit works on your i5 system, but Peppermint 9 64bit doesn't ?
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Re: Is there a way to update PM 8 to PM 9 from PM8?
« Reply #27 on: February 11, 2019, 07:56:42 am »
So you're saying Peppermint 9 32bit works on your i5 system, but Peppermint 9 64bit doesn't ?

Yes, that is correct for me. It is odd as I understand it should be the other way around as 64 bit is designed for i5 type machines?

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Re: Is there a way to update PM 8 to PM 9 from PM8?
« Reply #28 on: February 11, 2019, 08:29:14 am »
Yeah that's immensely odd .. it's also likely to rule out a kernel regression.

Could still be a graphics driver issue though, so do you still wanna try booting a 64bit LiveUSB with the nomodeset boot parameter set ?

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Here's a thought .. have you tried booting Peppermint 9 64bit LiveUSB with Secureboot disabled ?

And how did you create the 64bit LiveUSB ? (which software did you use to write it)
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Re: Is there a way to update PM 8 to PM 9 from PM8?
« Reply #29 on: February 11, 2019, 08:47:33 am »


To produce a live ISO with persistence I have tried different data sticks, different PC's and different live ISO creator software (Live Linux, Unetbootin, Yumi and Mkusb).

All seem to stall at 'starting up'. Peppermint 8 works using the exact same techniques.



Yes - I will try the 64 bit with nomodeset and report back. With regards to Graphics drivers - a quick look around  a working live PM8  shows that some Nvida drivers are still missing. I am not sure how much persistence I have on this though so am wary of downloading the drivers.

I will check the secure boot setting as well on booting 64 bit PM9.
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