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Re: New Purchases 2019
« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2019, 04:29:23 pm »
It's weird, things used to get smaller as the tech progressed .. I can't help but wonder if in 5 generations graphics cards will look like a mainframe with a tiny motherboard slotted on top :))
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Re: New Purchases 2019
« Reply #31 on: January 24, 2019, 04:31:25 pm »
Oh, oh! We've got a problem...

This mobo/video card combo plays 'Twenty One Pilots'  YT videos, in full-screen mode @ 1080p HD (no lag, stuttering, smearing, et cetera).

Looks like I'll be saving the impossible to find EVGA GeForce GT 730 card for a backup  :)


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Re: New Purchases 2019
« Reply #32 on: January 24, 2019, 04:38:57 pm »
It's weird, things used to get smaller as the tech progressed .. I can't help but wonder if in 5 generations graphics cards will look like a mainframe with a tiny motherboard slotted on top :))

IKR

And, if I run across a deal on another one of these things, I can CrossFire them. Both the card and the mobo support it.

Can you imagine the space they would take up? But, now, I'm being silly...  >:(


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OMG, I had to move the supports I'm using (on the bench), from the corners of the mobo, to the center.

This card is so heavy, it's bending the mobo in half.
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Re: New Purchases 2019
« Reply #33 on: January 24, 2019, 05:28:45 pm »
Damn, that's a hell of a score, dude. :D

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Re: New Purchases 2019
« Reply #34 on: January 25, 2019, 02:27:43 pm »
Interesting...





Yes, Willy's is a great place to find deals of all kinds - if you have the time to run around and spot them.

Yesterday, while I was in the store, they made an announcement that anything with a gray tag was now 99 cents, regardless of what the price tag said. I could have probably found a nice business suit for 99 cents, if I had more time to browse.  :)

This Sapphire Radeon R9 290 Tri-X OC card rawks. Evidently, it doesn't use much power, as long as one is NOT gaming. I cannot believe it plays full screen YT videos in 1080p HD with a $4.00 bottom-feeder Dual core Intel Core2 Duo E7500 CPU. And, that's running off of a Peppermint 9 USB installation ISO. Amazing!

Hell, I've been running this over-clocked Radeon R9 290 almost 24 hours - the coolers (there are two of them - 1 GPU, 2 coolers, 3 fans) are STILL ice-cold, and the PS fan has NEVER kicked in. So, I'm definitely gonna use it on the new build. I think it'll match the look n' feel of my Tuniq Tower 120 CPU cooler perfectly, too. I found the 775 backplate for the Tuniq Tower the other day, while I was scrounging around in boxes, looking for a cooler for the bench build.

Anyway, the Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 is in the wind - supposed to be here by Tuesday (or sooner). Then, I'll get everything off the bench and installed in the Mountain Mods case.

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Re: New Purchases 2019
« Reply #35 on: January 29, 2019, 03:53:54 am »
The Intel Core2 Quad Q9650 showed up today, and I wasn't disappointed. What a beautiful chip - perfect condition!

I installed it, and promptly OC'ed the mobo to the point that all the components were uncomfortably toasty, and left it that way.

After a few hours of baking on the bench, nothing started smoking, or burst into flames, so I returned the BIOS settings to a sane level.


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Machine:   Device: desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: P5Q PRO TURBO v: Rev 1.xx serial: N/A
           BIOS: American Megatrends v: 0602 date: 08/04/2009
CPU:       Quad core Intel Core2 Quad Q9650 (-MCP-)
           arch: Penryn rev.10 cache: 6144 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 23996
           clock speeds: max: 2851 MHz 1: 2018 MHz 2: 2150 MHz 3: 2851 MHz
           4: 2045 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Hawaii XT / Grenada XT [Radeon R9 290X/390X]
           bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:67b0
           Display Server: x11 (X.Org 1.19.6 )
           drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1280x1024@60.02hz
           OpenGL: renderer: AMD HAWAII (DRM 2.50.0 / 4.15.0-23-generic, LLVM 6.0.0)
           version: 4.5 Mesa 18.0.0-rc5 (compat-v: 3.0) Direct Render: Yes
Audio:     Card-1 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Hawaii HDMI Audio [Radeon R9 290/290X / 390/390X]
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:aac8
           Card-2 Intel 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:3a3e
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.15.0-23-generic
Network:   Card: Qualcomm Atheros AR8121/AR8113/AR8114 Gigabit or Fast Ethernet
           driver: ATL1E port: cc00 bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 1969:1026
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Drives:    HDD Total Size: 15.7GB (12.5% used)
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Partition: ID-1: / size: 2.0G used: 31M (2%) fs: overlay dev: N/A
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 0.52GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/zram0
           ID-3: swap-2 size: 0.52GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/zram1
           ID-4: swap-3 size: 0.52GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/zram2
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Info:      Processes: 181 Uptime: 0 min Memory: 385.3/3944.5MB
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    OpenGL Information
    GL_VENDOR:     X.Org
    GL_RENDERER:   AMD HAWAII (DRM 2.50.0 / 4.15.0-23-generic, LLVM 6.0.0)
    GL_VERSION:    3.0 Mesa 18.0.0-rc5
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[build] use-vbo=false: FPS: 3284 FrameTime: 0.305 ms
[build] use-vbo=true: FPS: 5171 FrameTime: 0.193 ms
[texture] texture-filter=nearest: FPS: 4602 FrameTime: 0.217 ms
[texture] texture-filter=linear: FPS: 4805 FrameTime: 0.208 ms
[texture] texture-filter=mipmap: FPS: 4394 FrameTime: 0.228 ms
[shading] shading=gouraud: FPS: 4685 FrameTime: 0.213 ms
[shading] shading=blinn-phong-inf: FPS: 4617 FrameTime: 0.217 ms
[shading] shading=phong: FPS: 4741 FrameTime: 0.211 ms
[shading] shading=cel: FPS: 4766 FrameTime: 0.210 ms
[bump] bump-render=high-poly: FPS: 4598 FrameTime: 0.217 ms
[bump] bump-render=normals: FPS: 4732 FrameTime: 0.211 ms
[bump] bump-render=height: FPS: 4797 FrameTime: 0.208 ms
[effect2d] kernel=0,1,0;1,-4,1;0,1,0;: FPS: 4987 FrameTime: 0.201 ms
[effect2d] kernel=1,1,1,1,1;1,1,1,1,1;1,1,1,1,1;: FPS: 5156 FrameTime: 0.194 ms
[pulsar] light=false:quads=5:texture=false: FPS: 4526 FrameTime: 0.221 ms
[desktop] blur-radius=5:effect=blur:passes=1:separable=true:windows=4: FPS: 3357 FrameTime: 0.298 ms
[desktop] effect=shadow:windows=4: FPS: 3006 FrameTime: 0.333 ms
[buffer] columns=200:interleave=false:update-dispersion=0.9:update-fraction=0.5:update-method=map: FPS: 843 FrameTime: 1.186 ms
[buffer] columns=200:interleave=false:update-dispersion=0.9:update-fraction=0.5:update-method=subdata: FPS: 992 FrameTime: 1.008 ms
[buffer] columns=200:interleave=true:update-dispersion=0.9:update-fraction=0.5:update-method=map: FPS: 921 FrameTime: 1.086 ms
[ideas] speed=duration: FPS: 2201 FrameTime: 0.454 ms
[jellyfish] <default>: FPS: 4258 FrameTime: 0.235 ms
[terrain] <default>: FPS: 1714 FrameTime: 0.583 ms
[shadow] <default>: FPS: 4087 FrameTime: 0.245 ms
[refract] <default>: FPS: 2938 FrameTime: 0.340 ms
[conditionals] fragment-steps=0:vertex-steps=0: FPS: 4842 FrameTime: 0.207 ms
[conditionals] fragment-steps=5:vertex-steps=0: FPS: 4447 FrameTime: 0.225 ms
[conditionals] fragment-steps=0:vertex-steps=5: FPS: 4571 FrameTime: 0.219 ms
[function] fragment-complexity=low:fragment-steps=5: FPS: 4658 FrameTime: 0.215 ms
[function] fragment-complexity=medium:fragment-steps=5: FPS: 4540 FrameTime: 0.220 ms
[loop] fragment-loop=false:fragment-steps=5:vertex-steps=5: FPS: 4553 FrameTime: 0.220 ms
[loop] fragment-steps=5:fragment-uniform=false:vertex-steps=5: FPS: 4499 FrameTime: 0.222 ms
[loop] fragment-steps=5:fragment-uniform=true:vertex-steps=5: FPS: 4769 FrameTime: 0.210 ms
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Re: New Purchases 2019
« Reply #36 on: January 29, 2019, 07:13:26 am »
It's good that the processor passed your test. :)

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Re: New Purchases 2019
« Reply #37 on: January 29, 2019, 07:34:39 am »
Very nice, those core2quad's still have some life left in them .. specially when paired with a decent GFX card :)

And as you suggest, they're insanely oveclockable.
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Re: New Purchases 2019
« Reply #38 on: January 29, 2019, 01:22:50 pm »
Though it's good some people do that, I hate having to get rid of bubble wrap .. you either fill the bin full of air, or spend an hour popping the damn stuff.

Ummm, over here, you just take it back to UPS or FEDex... they happily take it back... or add it to the plastic shopping bag recycle bin...
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Re: New Purchases 2019
« Reply #39 on: January 29, 2019, 01:28:02 pm »
 :'(

I really really wanted a new laptop this year... but I am now weary. About to deliver the Toshiba to a new owner today... delivered the Compaq to a new owner yesterday. wiped drives and reinstalled their respective Win & p9R OSes... gave the lady a turorial yestiddy, same for today. Thus I will be relying only on my desktop 2016 rebuild and my phone for the time being. Seems like the Dell lappiess y'all snarf up are also elder tech... So I'm gonna start living la vida loca laptopless for the remainder of 2019.

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Re: New Purchases 2019
« Reply #40 on: January 29, 2019, 01:58:34 pm »
Get a Dell XPS 15 if you wanna splurge .. it's what I'd buy if I had the money.

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Re: New Purchases 2019
« Reply #41 on: January 29, 2019, 03:38:18 pm »
Very nice, those core2quad's still have some life left in them .. specially when paired with a decent GFX card :)

And as you suggest, they're insanely oveclockable.

Tell ya what... I haven't been into overclocking in years. It's just cheaper and easier to go buy a Dell Optiplex with a Core i7, and call it a day. But, that isn't what THIS is all about, you know?

This is my rigid frame Harley with a peanut tank and ape-hanger handlebars, if you will - 7 league boots going down the highway, with open pipes and the wind blowing through my hair... LoL  ;D

It didn't take me long to figure out how to push this Asus mobo. As of may know, I've had a hard-on for Asus lately, but I gotta give credit, where credit is due. They did a nice job of these boards. I can see why they're so popular.

If it was 2009, instead of 2019, I'd leave this thing overclocked, but in reality, what's the point - other than making sure everything is up to snuff?

I *thought* the Northbridge cooler was just for 'dicky-pee-pee' showboating purposes, but the various built-in factory coolers will fry fingers, when you start increasing the voltage and frequencies of various components. The capacitor cans will blister you, if you aren't careful, et cetera.

While it's fun and exciting to revisit all of this overclocking stuff, it's hardly practical for 24/7 operation. There's no way I would walk off and leave this thing unattended, in a heavily OC'ed config. It's that scary.

I've returned it to sanity and let it cool overnight. I had an extra Intel PCI network card laying around, so I installed it this morning. These card have been working great, and they take a little load off of the bridge.

Very pleased with the results. It's still plenty fast, and the CPU is running @ 30C, instead of 60C  :)





At this point, I'm mulling over what I want to do about the drives. Might as well bench test them before proceeding.

 I'm tempted to remove the Sammy SSD from my Asus Eee PC and put it in this machine. Kind of a waste in the Eee PC. Then, a 1TB spinner for storage.

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Re: New Purchases 2019
« Reply #42 on: January 29, 2019, 03:42:48 pm »
Get a Dell XPS 15 if you wanna splurge .. it's what I'd buy if I had the money.

Dittos... with a slightly smaller screen.

15's are too big to lug around, in my situation.


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Re: New Purchases 2019
« Reply #43 on: January 29, 2019, 03:53:05 pm »
Okay, XPS 13 :)
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Re: New Purchases 2019
« Reply #44 on: January 29, 2019, 03:53:55 pm »
Perfection!  ;D