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Microsoft reportedly looking to ditch Edge for Chromium
« on: December 04, 2018, 09:58:25 am »
This rumor is not confirmed yet, but interesting read(s) ...

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Microsoft is throwing in the towel with Edge and is building a new web browser for Windows 10, this time powered by Chromium.

LINK: https://goo.gl/Tjs9U8 (Winders Central - 3 Dec 2018)

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The world of web renderers could be down a significant member should Microsoft can its EdgeHTML renderer.

LINK: https://goo.gl/VJw9mD (ZDNet - 4 Dec 2018)

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Re: Microsoft reportedly looking to ditch Edge for Chromium
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2018, 10:20:59 am »
I'm sure both Edge users are going to be bummed by this news. :P

Interesting news, though it doesn't affect me personally. The only time Edge even launches on my Win10 install is when, for some stupid reason, the system decides to try and open something in it, rather than Firefox, which is my default.

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Re: Microsoft reportedly looking to ditch Edge for Chromium
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2018, 03:17:43 pm »
Just one more reason to stick with Firefox  ;D
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Re: Microsoft reportedly looking to ditch Edge for Chromium
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2018, 06:16:14 pm »
IIRC that's gonna require a Cortana redesign.
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Re: Microsoft reportedly looking to ditch Edge for Chromium
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2018, 06:22:52 pm »
Funny that they're still arguing about browsers, after all these years.

Remember, back in the day, when sites would block you, if you weren't running Netscape?

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Re: Microsoft reportedly looking to ditch Edge for Chromium
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2018, 08:09:06 pm »
Hell, I remember when you couldn't do certain things if you weren't running IE, FF or Chrome in Windows or a select group of browsers in OSX.  I don't know if that's changed. I'd imagine it has, with the rise of Android.

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Re: Microsoft reportedly looking to ditch Edge for Chromium
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2018, 10:08:19 pm »
Does that mean I should stop trying to get Edge to work on my Peppermint OS?  Hmmm......

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Re: Microsoft reportedly looking to ditch Edge for Chromium
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2018, 10:48:28 pm »
If you read between the lines...

It's a WebKit-centric world out there, and you need look no further than Google to see how second-class browsers are relegated to inferior versions of pages.

Edge and Firefox are in the same boat, in this respect.

From the second article (above):

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The mobile web is dominated by Chrome and Safari to such an extent that Firefox is still not served up a full-featured Google search page, and Firefox users get an inferior version that does not have the tools bar that allow users to narrow searches down by date.

"We are focused on providing a great experience for search across browsers, and continue to work to improve this for all users," a Google spokesperson told ZDNet in July.

"Firefox uses the Gecko engine, which requires us to do extensive testing on all of our features to ensure compatibility, as it's different from WebKit (which is used by Chrome, Safari, UC, Opera). We've done this for Firefox desktop, but have not done the same level of testing for mobile."

Firefox is said to only hold a 5 percent share of mobile web usage, and anecdotally, there are plenty of pages on the web where you can tell the designer and programmer have failed to open the page in anything other than Safari or Chrome on their Mac.

While the desktop might appear to be different, it suffers from the same problem of the Blink/WebKit monoculture: If Chrome and Safari decide to do something, Mozilla and Microsoft need to follow to maintain compatibility.

Make sense now?  :)
« Last Edit: December 04, 2018, 10:56:49 pm by VinDSL, Reason: Addendum »

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Re: Microsoft reportedly looking to ditch Edge for Chromium
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2018, 12:24:25 am »
What's writen in that quote isn't true.
Unfortnately and ironically, misinformation is more comon then ever these days.
Google holds the "truth" and critical thinking is a dying feature.

I run Firefox on my mobile also and I can sort google searches by date.

The way things are handled are reminiscent of modern dictatorships... no need to use force, or make people feel oppressed. Just make everybody happy and fead them with your truth!
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Re: Microsoft reportedly looking to ditch Edge for Chromium
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2018, 12:44:15 am »
Fake news, maybe?

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Re: Microsoft reportedly looking to ditch Edge for Chromium
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2018, 01:01:03 am »
 :D
Wouldn't call it "fake"... just outdated.

It's scary what one can do by just "twisting" the truth a bit  :o
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Re: Microsoft reportedly looking to ditch Edge for Chromium
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2018, 09:51:41 am »
It's all a matter of perspective, I suppose.

It's like... you and I are sitting in cars at opposite sides of an intersection and we witness an accident. You saw the red-light runner come from the left. I saw them come from the right. Which one is correct?

Or, take the time of day. At this very moment - as I type - it's all times of the day and night - today, tomorrow or, yesterday -  and I might add, all seasons of the year - all at the same time. Which perspective is right?

Throwing blue-sky thinking out the window (no pun intended) it's obvious which way the wind is blowing. MS has spent a lot of time and money on Edge. The UI is nice and it's not going away, but if they're planning on doing an 'engine swap' in midstream, that should be indicative of future trends. That's why I posted it here.

Who knows - maybe they will come up with a Linux version of Edge.  That seems to be where they're headed...  ;)

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BTW, I upgraded to 19H1 Build 18290, yesterday - half expected to see something mentioned in the notes - but, nothing was said.

Once again, the rumor/click-bait/fake news has not been confirmed yet.
« Last Edit: December 05, 2018, 10:08:34 am by VinDSL, Reason: Addendum »

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Re: Microsoft reportedly looking to ditch Edge for Chromium
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2018, 10:26:07 am »
Does that mean I should stop trying to get Edge to work on my Peppermint OS?  Hmmm......

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Re: Microsoft reportedly looking to ditch Edge for Chromium
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2018, 10:33:44 am »
If you read between the lines...

It's a WebKit-centric world out there, and you need look no further than Google to see how second-class browsers are relegated to inferior versions of pages.

Edge and Firefox are in the same boat, in this respect.

From the second article (above):

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The mobile web is dominated by Chrome and Safari to such an extent that Firefox is still not served up a full-featured Google search page, and Firefox users get an inferior version that does not have the tools bar that allow users to narrow searches down by date.

"We are focused on providing a great experience for search across browsers, and continue to work to improve this for all users," a Google spokesperson told ZDNet in July.

"Firefox uses the Gecko engine, which requires us to do extensive testing on all of our features to ensure compatibility, as it's different from WebKit (which is used by Chrome, Safari, UC, Opera). We've done this for Firefox desktop, but have not done the same level of testing for mobile."

Firefox is said to only hold a 5 percent share of mobile web usage, and anecdotally, there are plenty of pages on the web where you can tell the designer and programmer have failed to open the page in anything other than Safari or Chrome on their Mac.

While the desktop might appear to be different, it suffers from the same problem of the Blink/WebKit monoculture: If Chrome and Safari decide to do something, Mozilla and Microsoft need to follow to maintain compatibility.

Make sense now?  :)

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Remember, back in the day, when sites would block you, if you weren't running Netscape?

I remember the days when half the sites wouldn't work properly in anything but IE, because Microsoft were attempting to push modified proprietary web standards in an attempt to control the Intertoobs...

So what you're saying is that Google/Apple are 'doing a Microsoft' with webkit ?
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Re: Microsoft reportedly looking to ditch Edge for Chromium
« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2018, 03:21:09 pm »
So what you're saying is that Google/Apple are 'doing a Microsoft' with webkit ?

Yup, but I can't take credit. That's what the articles I've read are saying.

And, if Edge swaps engines, it will become the new IE6  :)