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p5 Sound Settings too low [SOLVED]
« on: August 04, 2014, 10:05:12 am »
ever since last my last update/upgrade, my hpG6's maximum sound setting has been set too low. Nor do the corresponding f9, f10 and f11 keys work their sound magic as they did previously....  If only I knew where to start?

EDIT  seeing as most sound issues spring from pulseaudio, i'll try removing and reinstalling that first

after an uninstall, log off and log back on, sound was completely missing... reinstalled
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sudo apt install pulseaudo pulseaudio-utils pavucontrol but maximum sound level is still too low, nor do the f9, f10, f11 keyboard audio control keys work as they had done previously... Lets see if switching to ALSA will do the trick? hmmm Synaptic offerings about ALSA are confusing me, will have to get back to this after class...
« Last Edit: September 09, 2014, 02:23:06 pm by spence »
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Re: p5 Sound Settings too low
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2014, 01:15:10 pm »
Hi,

I don't know much about pulseaudio -- except that it didn't work for me or my computer. When I tried using ALSA there was no improvement -- until I removed pulse audio and then ALSA worked.

From your description, you removed pulseaudio but apparently you did not try ALSA after removing pulseaudio. I would suggest again removing pulseaudio (since removing and / or reinstalling is easy with Peppermint) and then making sure that you have alsa-base,  alsa-utils and gnome-alsamixer installed.

Then start gnome-alsamixer -- from the command line just enter
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gnome-alsamixerbut you will also perhaps find it in your menu.

In either case, this will allow you to play around with the various inputs and outputs, muting/unmuting, setting their levels, etc. (the 'Master' and 'PCM' controls seem to be important and should probably both be unmuted).

If you are still having problems, get back to us with a report on what you did and what is happening.

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Re: p5 Sound Settings too low
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2014, 07:10:23 am »
Hi,

I don't know much about pulseaudio -- except that it didn't work for me or my computer. When I tried using ALSA there was no improvement -- until I removed pulse audio and then ALSA worked.

If you are still having problems, get back to us with a report on what you did and what is happening.

Good luck,
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after i got home from class, i followed your advice on Alsa... I still have no sound... rebooted several times... pulseaudio had previously worked relatively hiccup free on my computer but something about one of the more recent weekly update/upgrades borked it a bit, trying to remember how to review what changed in the most recent update
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Re: p5 Sound Settings too low
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2014, 07:24:00 am »
Sorry to hear (no pun intended!  :)  )  that you still have no sound. :-\
Please open a terminal window, enter the following command and then post the output in your next message.
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inxi -A
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Re: p5 Sound Settings too low
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2014, 08:35:19 am »
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spence@hpG6 ~ $ inxi -A
Audio:     Card-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] FCH Azalia Controller driver: snd_hda_intel
           Card-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] BeaverCreek HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 6500D and 6400G-6600G series] driver: snd_hda_intel
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ver: k3.13.0-32-generic

then for kicks, after reading a similar thread in the old forums...http://peppermintos.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=5248

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spence@hpG6 ~ $ aplay -l
**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: Generic_1 [HD-Audio Generic], device 0: 92HD81B1X5 Analog [92HD81B1X5 Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

EDIT following thru with the advice in the old thread...

Try this: gedit ~/.asoundrc

When gedit opens a BLANK file (if it's not blank, STOP NOW and post its contents) .. make it read:-

pcm.!default {
type hw
card 1
}

ctl.!default {
type hw
card 1
}


SAVE the file and reboot to test sound.

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brings me back to having sound, but i can't turn up the volume far enough to be satisfactory...
« Last Edit: August 05, 2014, 08:46:50 am by spence »
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Re: p5 Sound Settings too low [almost SOLVED]
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2014, 12:02:47 pm »
and now finally realizing that the ALSA mixer controls are counter-intuitive... and i have decent sound... still not as high/loud as i used to be able to crank... so if there's something else i should investigate... please feel free to chime in... now, off to class for the afternoon
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Re: p5 Sound Settings too low
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2014, 02:52:51 pm »
So where are you on this now ?

pulse or alsa ?

So it was a system update (not a move to Peppermint 5) that made the volume lower ? .. in what applications is it lower ?

Did the function keys work prior to the update ?

[EDIT]

BTW, updates will be listed in /var/log/apt/history.log

or one of the history.log.(n).gz archives at the same location.
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Re: p5 Sound Settings too low [SOLVED]
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2014, 08:12:39 pm »
I am currently using ALSA after completely removing pulse audio... my sounds and their respective function keys worked after the move to p5... but not after a weekly update/upgrade... sound levels were very low across the board when listening to anything on the web thru my Chromium or Seamonkey browsers... didn't check Guayadeque as i've quit trying to listen to music on the laptop outside of youtube or vimeo... yes the function keys worked prior to the weekly update... but for all intents and purposes... i can now mark this solved...

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Re: p5 Sound Settings too low
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2014, 09:03:00 pm »
Interesting!

<= Version 4, the volume on my Peppermint Dell laptop(s) was incredibly low (and the internal microphones were useless), but amazingly, my Asus Eee PC netbook worked just fine.  I suspected it was a difference in hardware.

Since we moved to PulseAudio in P5, everything is booming now.  I actually need to turn the volume down -- way down, especially when I'm in a quiet environment.  Also, the microphone gain has increased dramatically with PulseAudio vs ALSA.  The internal mics are actually on the verge of over-driving the mixers.

PulseAudio has been a godsend for my Dell lappys...   ;)

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Re: p5 Sound Settings too low
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2014, 10:44:51 am »
yes, very interesting VinDSL and PCNetSpec... suppose its just the nature of different sound cards our hp and dell builders have installed in our various machines... Sound has always been something i've struggled with ever since purchasing this HP Pavillion g6 laptop... reviewing the /var/log/apt/history.log and the history.log.(n).gz archive doesn't really give this relative n00b a clue about which program caused my particular hiccup... 
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