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Re: Brave web browser and ICE
« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2018, 07:11:21 am »
Don't let the bad man put you off perknh, Quantum rocks :)

I won't, PCNetSpec, but I understand the feelings of our noble friend.  Mozilla has some serious PR work to do.  FF put off so many people for so long that its missteps inspired the creation of one browser after another -- Pale Moon, Waterfox, Basilisk, and even Brave!  How do you bring people back into the fold after year after year of disappointment?  It's tough.  Once bit, twice shy -- and we've now been bit so many times by Mozilla. 

But, it's true, Firefox Quantum rocks! 8)
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Re: Brave web browser and ICE
« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2018, 11:17:25 am »
I'm forcing myself to use/test it on my beloved 32bit doorstop box, so I'm not all bad

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Re: Brave web browser and ICE
« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2018, 01:51:11 pm »
I'm forcing myself to use/test it on my beloved 32bit doorstop box, so I'm not all bad

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Can't wait to hear what you think, VinDSL.  When it comes to Firefox, your skepticism is a good thing.  This means you're about to put Firefox Quantum through its paces.:)
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Re: Brave web browser and ICE
« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2018, 04:03:51 pm »
I'm forcing myself to use/test it on my beloved 32bit doorstop box, so I'm not all bad

I'll take it back when you say it rocks .. otherwise, no we're not coming out to play :P
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Re: Brave web browser and ICE
« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2018, 07:24:37 pm »
Okay, is it just me?

Issue #1 - Fx won't 'remember' the window position on closing and reopening.

Sometimes it opens on the left of the display - sometimes on the right - never where I want/expect it to be.

Extremely irritating.

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Re: Brave web browser and ICE
« Reply #20 on: August 28, 2018, 08:13:57 pm »
are you opening that in an SSB ?

If it's an ICE SSB, I'm gonna bet the Outlook site opens a second tab, but doesn't automagically take you to it

In the SSB try switching tabs with

Tab Navigation (for when the SSB opens another hidden tab)

Next tab = Ctrl+Page Down

Previous tab = Ctrl+Page Up


Page Navigation

Back a page = Alt+    or    Ctrl+[

Forward a page = Alt+    or    Ctrl+]


And remember, you can hit Alt at any time to display the menubar .. if say you want to apply Firefox addons, add bookmarks, change Firefox settings, etc. all on a per-SSB basis (different addons /settings/bookmarks/etc.for each individual SSB),

and I have a feeling somewhere in the settings is an option to automagically switch to new tabs

https://forum.peppermintos.com/index.php/topic,7269.msg74454.html#msg74454
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Re: Brave web browser and ICE
« Reply #21 on: August 28, 2018, 08:25:57 pm »
n/m

I changed the URI on the ssb and it works fine,

Firefix rox.

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Re: Brave web browser and ICE
« Reply #22 on: August 28, 2018, 08:56:40 pm »
Though ICE isn't really designed for sites that open multiple tabs, here's a handy little tweak for Firefox.

You know what Alt+Tab does in Linux right ?

Okay in FF, type:-
about:config
in the address bar, then hit enter.

search for the key:-
browser.ctrlTab.previews
and toggle it to true by clicking on it.

Now see what:-

Ctrl+Tab
and
Ctrl+Shift+Tab

do in a Firefox instance that has multiple tabs open.
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Re: Brave web browser and ICE
« Reply #23 on: August 28, 2018, 09:18:27 pm »
BTW...

n/m

I changed the URI on the ssb and it works fine,

Firefix rox.


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Re: Brave web browser and ICE
« Reply #24 on: August 28, 2018, 09:47:08 pm »
LoL  :D

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Re: Brave web browser and ICE
« Reply #25 on: August 28, 2018, 10:38:07 pm »
Thanks for giving Firefox Quantum a shot, VinDSL.  Honestly, I don't think Firefox is perfect, but it's clear to me that it has improved considerably from before. 

mac introduced me to about:config years ago, and about:config is what I need to learn more about if I really want to master Firefox.  In the meanwhile I'm just enjoying using the browser for the things I do know how to do within a browser.  There are hidden functions tucked away within Firefox that appear to be more hidden than those within Chrome -- but more nuanced too.  There is a learning curve with Firefox; that's for sure. 

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Re: Brave web browser and ICE
« Reply #26 on: August 29, 2018, 07:57:05 am »
IMHO you're right perknh, FF is WAY more configurable than any other browser.

Not sure whether FF's
about:config
is any more "hidden" than Chrome/Chromiums
chrome://flags (or Opera's opera://flags) (or Edge's about:flags)
or
chrome://flash
etc.

Though I will agree Chrome/Chromium does a better job of explaining what their options do, where FF just offers the raw keys and you're left to search the web for what they do.

At least it's all generally in one place in FF and with more options .. Chrome/Chromium have a bad habit of not offering user options in the first place, and seem to be going down Gnomes route of removing options that were once there as Google apparently attempts to shape the web in its image.
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Re: Brave web browser and ICE
« Reply #27 on: August 29, 2018, 12:25:19 pm »
Not sure whether FF's
about:config
is any more "hidden" than Chrome/Chromiums
chrome://flags (or Opera's opera://flags) (or Edge's about:flags)
or
chrome://flash
etc.

Good point.  Yeah, it's the same idea.

Though I will agree Chrome/Chromium does a better job of explaining what their options do, where FF just offers the raw keys and you're left to search the web for what they do.
 

I found a couple of good links for Firefox this morning.  I figure I might as well share them.

Firefox Privacy – The Complete How-To Guide
& Browser Fingerprinting – What You Need to Know

Both articles were written by Sven Taylor for Restore Privacy

Sven Taylor sure likes Firefox, but he has some nice words to say about Brave browser too.  Scroll down this page to read more.
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Re: Brave web browser and ICE
« Reply #28 on: August 29, 2018, 02:52:32 pm »
What I find VERY interesting/telling is that if you use one of the sites he suggests to test for fingerprinting vulnerability:
https://amiunique.org/
they state:-

14.12% of browsers they've observed/tested are running on Linux,
and
42.19% of browsers they've observed/tested are Firefox (on all OS's, not just Linux)

So either Linux has a considerably larger market share than other figures suggest, or Linux users are FAR more likely to be security/privacy conscious and therefore testing their systems.

And either Firefox has a considerably larger market share than other figures suggest, or Firefox users are also FAR more likely to be security/privacy conscious and therefore testing their browser.
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Re: Brave web browser and ICE
« Reply #29 on: August 29, 2018, 05:19:12 pm »
Now to figure out how to access about:config inside an ssb... since each ssb is a separate container... IMMSMC? meaning setting these parameters in my main FF browser won't transfer the settings to the dozen SSBs I now have?

Although, I suppose it matters not as tabs aen't available in SSB's only new windows... though there are a few other about:config settings I like to tweak... pipelining for instance... 
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